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[chaeplin]

Helping with testnet forking issues?

All forking issues have been resolved! Next I'm going to start working on stabilizing the masternode payments / ghost masternodes, then I'll set a date for the fork (prob about two weeks).

** Please update your client to 10.9.2 or 9.5.2 **
** If you updated and are running either of those versions from a few hours ago, please update as well, the keys were changed in the code **

(If you're not helping with testnet, you can ignore this. I'll be having everyone else update soon)

Quick question about the forking issues being resolved. If Evan or maybe someone else who understands auto-checkpointing as it was implemented in DarkCoin (Hiro? ) could answer I would be really grateful.

As I understand it, and I mean absolutely no offence, the underlying issue of the voting system causing forks remains unfixed and now autocheckpointing will be used to keep all clients on the correct chain. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Assuming I am not... then what is the plan if the "checkpoint" node (this a central node according to the code that was posted by chapelin) has some downtime or even worse is attacked?  If the node is down then it won't send checkpoints. If it has been compromised then the individual clients will not sign. That seems ok at a glance, but wouldn't the blockchain just fork once again during the time that no checkpoints are being included in the blocks?

Has this been considered and DarkCoin is using a modified version of autocheckpointing? Or am I misunderstanding something fundamental related to how autocheckpointing actually works?
Thanks.

Checkpointing is insurance. Attacking CP server doesn't cause forks. See posts on forking solution. It will be virtually impossible to find the CP server to attack.

Where are these posts?  I didn't see anything posted about the details of solving the fork issue.

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/development-update-5-30-2014-fork-causes-and-solutions.994/

2.) We are implementing automatic checkpointing, so that if this does happen again the network will not be able to diverge paths. In the event of a rejected block, the auto-checkpointing system will be able to tell the daemon to retry it later and put the daemon on the correct chain.

[TanteStefana2]

Where are these posts?  I didn't see anything posted about the details of solving the fork issue.

On Darkcointalk.org  https://darkcointalk.org/threads/help-test-rc2-forking-issues.1009/page-11

And we're now on 10.9.3 and 9.5.3 (testnet only, don't use on mainnet yet)

[DRobert]

What is stopping terrorist organizations, criminals, and the bad of the bad from using darkcoin, even setting up masternodes, and using it to their advantage. Last time I checked Darkcoin transactions can be tracked by operators of masternodes. Do you really think darkcoin can provide fully anon transactions from NSA as well as tracking organizations. Pretty stupid to think that.

Actually, if you use darkcoin and send it, you will most likely become targeted by nsa and government financial
institutions to a greater extent:

m.slashdot.org/story/187795

Might as well get out while you can. Darkcoin usage gives NSA justification into your life.

[TsuyokuNaritai]

Oh God, NO!
YAcoin beating all us and surpasing even Bitcoin!!!
http://coinmarketcap.com/

https://i.imgur.com/22F0okD.png

why is this coin #1 on coinmarketcap? I call shennanigans!!! DAT VOLUME LOL

Apparently explorer.yacoin.org is now listing the coin supply in satoshis. Totally an honest mistake with the API server code and not in any way a dastardly scheme to gain attention for YACoin to boost the price...

[ddink7]

What is stopping terrorist organizations, criminals, and the bad of the bad from using darkcoin, even setting up masternodes, and using it to their advantage. Last time I checked Darkcoin transactions can be tracked by operators of masternodes. Do you really think darkcoin can provide fully anon transactions from NSA as well as tracking organizations. Pretty stupid to think that.

Actually, if you use darkcoin and send it, you will most likely become targeted by nsa and government financial
institutions to a greater extent:

m.slashdot.org/story/187795

Might as well get out while you can. Darkcoin usage gives NSA justification into your life.

Since when has NSA ever needed justification to get involved in my life?

[DRobert]

What is stopping politicians from making allegations that "eduffield supports Al'Qaida" and "Darkcoin promotes money laundrying, criminal activities, as well as terrorist organizations"?

[NutMasterTardd]

What is stopping terrorist organizations, criminals, and the bad of the bad from using darkcoin, even setting up masternodes, and using it to their advantage. Last time I checked Darkcoin transactions can be tracked by operators of masternodes. Do you really think darkcoin can provide fully anon transactions from NSA as well as tracking organizations. Pretty stupid to think that.

Actually, if you use darkcoin and send it, you will most likely become targeted by nsa and government financial
institutions to a greater extent:

m.slashdot.org/story/187795

Might as well get out while you can. Darkcoin usage gives NSA justification into your life.

You do know criminals use Bitcoin, right?

[Joshuar]

What is stopping politicians from making allegations that "eduffield supports Al'Qaida" and "Darkcoin promotes money laundrying, criminal activities, as well as terrorist organizations"?

Because they're false...the dollar is used for those things, not cryptocurrencies. It's already been discussed by parties of Congress or some other government organization I read.

[Ozziecoin]

What is stopping terrorist organizations, blah, blah, blah.

Nothing. As AA said: "A currency that you can't use to buy drugs isn't much of a currency at all." That level of anonymity, to make it safe for the average person, is very much needed.

If you look at the hugest crimes; they were committed with the aid of banks.  See HSBC in Mexico. So, actually the current system of checks are not working at all. The Gov't is more interested in prosecuting whistleblowers.

Masternodes will be chosen at random.  There will be hundreds if not thousands of MNs.  As an anonymous coin, it was designed to protect you against NSA surveillance, something which Bitcoin and Litecoin cannot do.  That's right all your Btc and Ltc transactions are naked in front of the NSA.

[DRobert]

What is stopping politicians from making allegations that "eduffield supports Al'Qaida" and "Darkcoin promotes money laundrying, criminal activities, as well as terrorist organizations"?

Because they're false...the dollar is used for those things, not cryptocurrencies. It's already been discussed by parties of Congress or some other government organization I read.

I wouldn't quite say that considering bitcoin was the choice of criminals operating within the Dark Web and that terrorists use google earth for operations. Some people in darkcoin irc even celebrate and welcome the idea of Darkcoin being used within a Silk Road organization.

Is not..the point of cryptos...to avoid the evils of the banking sector(and not pay taxes) in the eyes of many who use it? Don't tell me not because I hear it all the time in the irc chats.

Darkcoin is really sketchy...

[Joshuar]

What is stopping politicians from making allegations that "eduffield supports Al'Qaida" and "Darkcoin promotes money laundrying, criminal activities, as well as terrorist organizations"?

Because they're false...the dollar is used for those things, not cryptocurrencies. It's already been discussed by parties of Congress or some other government organization I read.

I wouldn't quite say that considering bitcoin was the choice of criminals operating within the Dark Web and that terrorists use google earth for operations. Some people in darkcoin irc even celebrate and welcome the idea of Darkcoin being used within a Silk Road organization.

Is not..the point of cryptos...to avoid the evils of the banking sector(and not pay taxes) in the eyes of many who use it? Don't tell me not because I hear it all the time in the irc chats.

Darkcoin is really sketchy...

I don't get your point..

[DRobert]

What is stopping terrorist organizations, blah, blah, blah.

Nothing. As AA said: "A currency that you can't use to buy drugs isn't much of a currency at all." That level of anonymity, to make it safe for the average person, is very much needed.

If you look at the hugest crimes; they were committed with the aid of banks.  See HSBC in Mexico. So, actually the current system of checks are not working at all. The Gov't is more interested in prosecuting whistleblowers.

Masternodes will be chosen at random.  There will be hundreds if not thousands of MNs.  As an anonymous coin, it was designed to protect you against NSA surveillance, something which Bitcoin and Litecoin cannot do.  That's right all your Btc and Ltc transactions are naked in front of the NSA.

So one bank regional branch leads the others to be guilty by association. Lol. What childish thinking. Mexico is corrupt country, period. Even the police are. Does that make all policemen in all countries bad?

[DRobert]

What is stopping politicians from making allegations that "eduffield supports Al'Qaida" and "Darkcoin promotes money laundrying, criminal activities, as well as terrorist organizations"?

Because they're false...the dollar is used for those things, not cryptocurrencies. It's already been discussed by parties of Congress or some other government organization I read.

I wouldn't quite say that considering bitcoin was the choice of criminals operating within the Dark Web and that terrorists use google earth for operations. Some people in darkcoin irc even celebrate and welcome the idea of Darkcoin being used within a Silk Road organization.

Is not..the point of cryptos...to avoid the evils of the banking sector(and not pay taxes) in the eyes of many who use it? Don't tell me not because I hear it all the time in the irc chats.

Darkcoin is really sketchy...

I don't get your point..

My point is that Darkcoin's masternodes will be used by malicious parties for malicious purposes and Darkcoin will be a tool of criminals. Cons outweight the benefits.

[Ozziecoin]

Darkcoin is really sketchy...

And maybe the global financial system needs a re-engineering?  Afterall, the rich are only getting richer: http://ozziecoin.com/?page_id=1068

Why do they not tax capital gains more heavily? Why should the poor working guy, who is already at the bottom not complain that the rich are making tax free capital gains every year, whilst doing nothing?

Should we really value capital assets such as land above working people?  It's all stuffed up by Fractional Reserve Banking, fostered on us by the banking system.

[DRobert]

Darkcoin is a ponzi scheme, with clever marketing based around anon. Watch as whales exploit your investments and run away with the cash.

[Joshuar]

What is stopping politicians from making allegations that "eduffield supports Al'Qaida" and "Darkcoin promotes money laundrying, criminal activities, as well as terrorist organizations"?

Because they're false...the dollar is used for those things, not cryptocurrencies. It's already been discussed by parties of Congress or some other government organization I read.

I wouldn't quite say that considering bitcoin was the choice of criminals operating within the Dark Web and that terrorists use google earth for operations. Some people in darkcoin irc even celebrate and welcome the idea of Darkcoin being used within a Silk Road organization.

Is not..the point of cryptos...to avoid the evils of the banking sector(and not pay taxes) in the eyes of many who use it? Don't tell me not because I hear it all the time in the irc chats.

Darkcoin is really sketchy...

I don't get your point..

My point is that Darkcoin's masternodes will be used by malicious parties for malicious purposes and Darkcoin will be a tool of criminals. Cons outweight the benefits.

Do you not know how anonymous cash is, much more anonymous than Darkcoin/cryptos can ever be? You seem just like a troll, making points that don't make sense..tsk..

[Ozziecoin]

So one bank regional branch leads the others to be guilty by association. Lol. What childish thinking. Mexico is corrupt country, period. Even the police are. Does that make all policemen in all countries bad?

This is a dark thread. Take your trolling elsewhere please. The bankers are crooks. Not one has been sent to prison. Open your EYES. You are now on my ignore list. People, please don't quote this sad person.

[DRobert]

Darkcoin is really sketchy...

And maybe the global financial system needs a re-engineering?  Afterall, the rich are only getting richer: http://ozziecoin.com/?page_id=1068

Why do they not tax capital gains more heavily? Why should the poor working guy, who is already at the bottom not complain that the rich are making tax free capital gains every year, whilst doing nothing?

Should we really value capital assets such as land above working people?  It's all stuffed up by Fractional Reserve Banking, fostered on us by the banking system.

Sounds like someone follows a certain nutjob called Alex Jones and watched the Zeitgeist movies

[Joshuar]

Darkcoin is really sketchy...

And maybe the global financial system needs a re-engineering?  Afterall, the rich are only getting richer: http://ozziecoin.com/?page_id=1068

Why do they not tax capital gains more heavily? Why should the poor working guy, who is already at the bottom not complain that the rich are making tax free capital gains every year, whilst doing nothing?

Should we really value capital assets such as land above working people?  It's all stuffed up by Fractional Reserve Banking, fostered on us by the banking system.

Sounds like someone follows a certain nutjob called Alex Jones and watched the Zeitgeist movies

Do you not know how anonymous cash is, much more anonymous than Darkcoin/cryptos can ever be? You seem just like a troll, making points that don't make sense..tsk..

[conf]

Darkcoin is a ponzi scheme, with clever marketing based around anon. Watch as whales exploit your investments and run away with the cash.

i smell XC ... i am right?