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[Xdragon]

OP and darkcoin.io hshould be updated, there is this new optimised miner, people should know about it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623409.0  , also pool list on darkcoin.io should be updated too

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[Sapereaude]

I think most likely, it will top out at around 1000 MNs is my guess.

I'm guessing around 300 max, because those that would've had tens or even 100+ of nodes with the old 1000DRK=1MN system will now just have 1.

That said, could someone please tell me why the multi-ticket masternodes was a good idea again?

Multi-ticket was built for whales and possibly the exchanges. So, I stick to 1000 to 2000 MN guess, as much easier for whales and exchanges to build MNs if multi ticket is implemented in current form.

It is easier to update and secure one big MNs than 20 smaller ones. As long as the total number doesn't go down a lot it doesn't affect decentralization that much. Anyway, afaik, it has been pushed back to RC4. This should happen in July, so there is a lot of time for this to change.

Even so - it might be limited to a maximum of 2-3 tickets per masternode so you cant have 20,000 drk / 20 tickets in one MN.

Still too far away to be anything to worry about for now.

A limit seems like a good idea to me, whether thats 2 or 3, or even 5 or 10, it would makes things easier for those who hold a lot of DRK and want to set up masternodes but would be one way of increasing the level of decentralisation as opposed to a system where you can have as many tickets as you want from one masternode.

I can't find the exact post, but I remembering Evan saying there would be a limit of 5.

[fernando]

I think most likely, it will top out at around 1000 MNs is my guess.

I'm guessing around 300 max, because those that would've had tens or even 100+ of nodes with the old 1000DRK=1MN system will now just have 1.

That said, could someone please tell me why the multi-ticket masternodes was a good idea again?

Multi-ticket was built for whales and possibly the exchanges. So, I stick to 1000 to 2000 MN guess, as much easier for whales and exchanges to build MNs if multi ticket is implemented in current form.

It is easier to update and secure one big MNs than 20 smaller ones. As long as the total number doesn't go down a lot it doesn't affect decentralization that much. Anyway, afaik, it has been pushed back to RC4. This should happen in July, so there is a lot of time for this to change.

Even so - it might be limited to a maximum of 2-3 tickets per masternode so you cant have 20,000 drk / 20 tickets in one MN.

Still too far away to be anything to worry about for now.

A limit seems like a good idea to me, whether thats 2 or 3, or even 5 or 10, it would makes things easier for those who hold a lot of DRK and want to set up masternodes but would be one way of increasing the level of decentralisation as opposed to a system where you can have as many tickets as you want from one masternode.

I can't find the exact post, but I remembering Evan saying there would be a limit of 5.

I think he hasn't committed to any number yet.

[predatorkill]

with the difficulty rising the drkpool.com auto payout should be decreased from 1 to something smaller

[illodin]

I think most likely, it will top out at around 1000 MNs is my guess.

I'm guessing around 300 max, because those that would've had tens or even 100+ of nodes with the old 1000DRK=1MN system will now just have 1.

That said, could someone please tell me why the multi-ticket masternodes was a good idea again?

Multi-ticket was built for whales and possibly the exchanges. So, I stick to 1000 to 2000 MN guess, as much easier for whales and exchanges to build MNs if multi ticket is implemented in current form.

Multi-ticketed nodes do nothing good for the security / decentralization of the coin, quite contrary. It's just there to make whales earn money even easier.

[blackshibe]

Can anyone provide an accurate mining calculator for DRK?

[Ozziecoin]

Can anyone provide an accurate mining calculator for DRK?

Calculator will say: highly unprofitable right now but in longer term, you might make some money.

[blackshibe]

Can anyone provide an accurate mining calculator for DRK?

Calculator will say: highly unprofitable right now but in longer term, you might make some money.

Thanks for confirmation. So I will mine shitcoins and insta-trade them for DRK

[Ignition75]

Can anyone provide an accurate mining calculator for DRK?

Calculator will say: highly unprofitable right now but in longer term, you might make some money.

Thanks for confirmation. So I will mine shitcoins and insta-trade them for DRK

Yep, I've been leasing my farm out and buying up to 3 times the amount of DRK vs mining when it's busy on BetaRigs...

[illodin]

Multi-ticketed nodes do nothing good for the security / decentralization of the coin, quite contrary. It's just there to make whales earn money even easier.

Actually one good thing is that bigger payout to multi-ticketed node allows the node to be hosted on a higher priced quality server. No idea how many would do so though. But simply having someone pay $10 a month or w/e for vps and run single node with 150 tickets that does the same amount of work than a node with 1 ticket just doesn't seem good.

[chaeplin]

FYI:

last 24hr avg diff is 6076.87,
last 24hr avg reward is 5, <----
last 24hr supply is 2760

[Standhaft]

Something tells me, quite soon, we'll be looking back at 6-8 DRK per day as "the glory days"...

My single 7850 gave me 2 DRK a day 2 months ago.

That were some glory weeks 

[Ed4252]

If darkcoin had litecoin's marketcap, how much would it be worth??

[Klacik]

If darkcoin had litecoin's marketcap, how much would it be worth??

75$+

[hashnine]

Something tells me, quite soon, we'll be looking back at 6-8 DRK per day as "the glory days"...

My single 7850 gave me 2 DRK a day 2 months ago.

That were some glory weeks  

3 months ago my i5 gave me 50 DRK per day  

 

[hashpower]

is it still worth mining it?
difficulty is at the sky

[Standhaft]

Something tells me, quite soon, we'll be looking back at 6-8 DRK per day as "the glory days"...

My single 7850 gave me 2 DRK a day 2 months ago.

That were some glory weeks  

3 months ago my i5 gave me 50 DRK per day  

 

I hardly believe that. Forgot it was already june. At the beginning of march 1 MH/s was averaging 1,3 DRK/day

[Kai Proctor]

I can't find the exact post, but I remembering Evan saying there would be a limit of 5.

I think he hasn't committed to any number yet.

http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/FAQ#How_many_Darkcoins_will_be_issued_in_total.3F

Unlike the number of Bitcoins in which the number is known in advance, Darkcoins have a maximum theoretical limit of approximately 21.3 million coins by 2050 with a slow issuing curve. However the real number of coins can be reduced to something like 16 or 17 million coins in case the hashrate of the network brings the mining reward lower in the near future.

Initially the plan was to have a theoretical limit of approximately 84 million coins, however due to the initial block reward formula which was aggressively diminishing block rewards without a minimum reward set, it would be near impossible to have more than 10 million coins issued.

Minimum block reward is now set at 5 DRKs per block and instead of using block halving every 4 years, Darkcoin employs a far smoother 7% annual decrease in coins issued per block. The minimum block reward was achieved on May 15th 2014.

Bottom line answer is: The theoretical maximum is close to 22mn but in practice we might not see more than 16-17mn coins due to tremendous difficulty increase very early in the coin's life.

[Donho]

I can't find the exact post, but I remembering Evan saying there would be a limit of 5.

I think he hasn't committed to any number yet.

http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/FAQ#How_many_Darkcoins_will_be_issued_in_total.3F

Unlike the number of Bitcoins in which the number is known in advance, Darkcoins have a maximum theoretical limit of approximately 21.3 million coins by 2050 with a slow issuing curve. However the real number of coins can be reduced to something like 16 or 17 million coins in case the hashrate of the network brings the mining reward lower in the near future.

Initially the plan was to have a theoretical limit of approximately 84 million coins, however due to the initial block reward formula which was aggressively diminishing block rewards without a minimum reward set, it would be near impossible to have more than 10 million coins issued.

Minimum block reward is now set at 5 DRKs per block and instead of using block halving every 4 years, Darkcoin employs a far smoother 7% annual decrease in coins issued per block. The minimum block reward was achieved on May 15th 2014.

Bottom line answer is: The theoretical maximum is close to 22mn but in practice we might not see more than 16-17mn coins due to tremendous difficulty increase very early in the coin's life.

I think they were talking about the max number of tickets per Masternode not the minimum block reward^^

[Kai Proctor]

I think they were talking about the max number of tickets per Masternode not the minimum block reward^^

lol NVM speed reading "mining" and "5" => "minimum block reward"