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[mikemikemike]

I posted that in the anti DRK thread. I think that shows my true intentions as a supporter of this alt.

You also posted it in other places as well.

Look if you only judge a market by technical analysis, you will not receive the whole picture. There is so much development and time involved behind the scenes in darkcoin. Numerous people are involved and helping make darkcoin as well known and used as much as bitcoin.

This is a real currency at the earliest stages of development. Trying to incite panic because the chart doesn't go up 100% of the time is asinine at best. Please take your financial advise somewhere else.

I posted it in the anti XC thread aswell, that's it.

And I don't, but you must understand there is very little than can stop a bubble popping. The last bitcoin bubble is a great example, on its way up, all the good news drove up the price massively, during its pop, not even the best of news managed to prop up the price.

[Fosca]

I brought back in @ 0.0008 - 0.0012. I saw it coming days ago and informed the community. Just like what I'm doing now.

Not everyone can liquidate, the depth isn't there. People are most likely defensive because:
1) You stand to make money at their expense
2) If everyone followed your advice DRK would most likely die from extreme loss of confidence. The crash the would ensue would be insane.

Holders give the coin value by allowing liquidity to build, this allows traders to trade. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I don't think you understand how market dynamics work. This is inevitable. The only thing you can do is speed it up, if everyone dumped now then the bottom would be found quicker and the price could begin to rise again even higher as another bubble formed. I still honestly think DRK will break through 0.1 at some point, I just know it has to sink below 0.01 before it gets there.

The downtrend might be inevitable but your scenario isn't.

The truth lies somewhere between you and the turbo bull holders that think we are moonbound any moment.

No, it doesn't. The price has peaked at 0.025 after growing over 10x during a bubble. To assume it can't do it again is nieve.

Finally we agree it will do it again. 10 times 0.018 = 0.18.!

[mikemikemike]

I brought back in @ 0.0008 - 0.0012. I saw it coming days ago and informed the community. Just like what I'm doing now.

Not everyone can liquidate, the depth isn't there. People are most likely defensive because:
1) You stand to make money at their expense
2) If everyone followed your advice DRK would most likely die from extreme loss of confidence. The crash the would ensue would be insane.

Holders give the coin value by allowing liquidity to build, this allows traders to trade. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I don't think you understand how market dynamics work. This is inevitable. The only thing you can do is speed it up, if everyone dumped now then the bottom would be found quicker and the price could begin to rise again even higher as another bubble formed. I still honestly think DRK will break through 0.1 at some point, I just know it has to sink below 0.01 before it gets there.

The downtrend might be inevitable but your scenario isn't.

The truth lies somewhere between you and the turbo bull holders that think we are moonbound any moment.

No, it doesn't. The price has peaked at 0.025 after growing over 10x during a bubble. To assume it can't do it again is nieve.

Finally we agree it will do it again. 10 times 0.018 = 0.18.!

Maybe. But the bubble has to pop first before a new one can form.

Anyways, its clear very few of you want to hear what I've got to say, it's a shame, I have an ROI of over 5000% on BTC since November looking at all this technical analysis you guys seem to see as pointless.

I was just trying to level the playing field, you all seem to hate whales playing the market but when one comes here to tell you what's actually happening you hate it even more.

See you in a week or two, we'll talk then when the price has bottomed out and I've got good news to give you.

Enjoy.

[humanitee]

The downtrend might be inevitable but your scenario isn't.

The truth lies somewhere between you and the turbo bull holders that think we are moonbound any moment.

No, it doesn't. The price has peaked at 0.025 after growing over 10x during a bubble. To assume it can't do it again is nieve.

lol.

I don't think you grasped what I was saying. I meant currently, right now, in this very moment what DRK is worth. Turbo bulls in this thread still think any moment DRK is going up another .01 BTC, and then we have people like you who think it's crashing through the floor any moment. The truth is somewhere in between.

If DRK gets all its' sweet features it's going so far north of .025 I'll have to write Santa Claus asking for my DRK back.

[thelonecrouton]

mikemikemike the chartist witch posting like blazes to help us poor souls who in out delusion think that there is a huge market for the ability to move money about anonymously! What fools we all must be!

Thanks mate!

 

[godzirra]

If you sell here and pick it back up @ .005 then you are a winner. Big time. No need to keep arguing over future price predictions, they're just that predictions. It's a long a longshot imo. No need to argue over guesses.

[toknormal]

To those that arn't so blinded. Check the 12h charts, the google 'stock bubble pattern'. The two images are identical.

He has got a point about the twelve hour - it doesn't look like turning around anytime soon.

But I'm not quite so pessimistic about the floor as mike-tee-mike. To me it looks more like 14-15 have a very good chance of holding, specially given the close at hand technical roadmap items. It's not rocket science to see where the resistance is:

 - 17: It's already hammered off that level 3 times now since the high of 26. It might just breakthrough one of these times in which case the next level is

 - 15: That's the top of the big volume pump around May 19th and a second one around May 29th. I personally think that's unlikely to be breached but if it is and we continue on the "mike-tee-mike" descent profile then next stop would be

 - 08: (big volume coming in on May 15th) or
 - 06: May 12th level-off price

There go go. You pays your money you takes your choice. (Lets hope it's not the mike-tee-mike choice   ).

[slapper]

Do we have a speculation thread? (why not?)

[falsealarm_bf]

Well, the person who stole my account as surfaced.  I just took a periodic look.  Looks like they're Turkish (posted in a Turkish forum) and they are trying to sell things.  I've posted not to trust them, and reported them, but BCT never answered my inquiries before so I have no hope they'll help me now.

Yes, it was my fault, not a good password....

Tantestefana, send me the history. I may be able to help. He unfortunately shares the same background as me but we may be able to find a way to make life difficult for him.

[mikemikemike]

The downtrend might be inevitable but your scenario isn't.

The truth lies somewhere between you and the turbo bull holders that think we are moonbound any moment.

No, it doesn't. The price has peaked at 0.025 after growing over 10x during a bubble. To assume it can't do it again is nieve.

lol.

I don't think you grasped what I was saying. I meant currently, right now, in this very moment what DRK is worth. People in this thread still think any moment DRK is going up another .01 BTC, and then we have people like you who think it's crashing through the floor any moment. The truth is somewhere in between.

If DRK gets all its' sweet features it's going way north of .025, no denying that.

Maybe. But without any big news you'll be fighting 0.01 in a matter of days. There is no argument for that. I've posted the evidence, and it is completely irrefutable. The same thing happened with BTC, everyone thought 800 was the bottom, then 700, then 600, while the professionals called it as soon as soon as the double top appeared at 400. If you guys don't want to be told whats going to happen that's your problem. I'm going to enjoy checking up on this thread and watching all you shills turn on this project and start blaming the whales.

Don't say you wern't warned.

Enjoy.

[godzirra]

Mike3 I hope you still have a core position in drk in case your scenario does not materialize. Sounds like you are very confident in your TA though. Maybe too much? If it doesn't happen get ready for the storm of I-told-you-so's. Either way somebody here is going to win big. Should be fun.

[AlexGR]

Technicals are good, but I'll take fundamentals any day of the week:

Back in March (price 0.0012) I wrote:

As for large investment interest mentioned earlier, that's natural: The "transparent" market cap of bitcoin and alts is 10 billion USD. The anonymous market is peanuts: 4mn USD (1mn anoncoin + 3mn darkcoin). When the anonymous market delivers, if even 1% of the transparent money move to privacy-centric coins, we are talking about 100mn marketcap to be shared between anonymous coins. You can't go wrong there, although from an investment perspective I doubt they are talking exclusively about DRK. It would probably be a portfolio of coins with unique anonymity characteristics. That would also serve as a hedge to a potential loss in the bitcoin and alt market which would seem as problematic for being transparent. This type of money involved as investment and hedging is more important for coin price than market adoption in commercial trades done with DarkSend, simply due to the enormous volume of USD that are involved. Adoption in transactions will be slow. Today you can't even buy things with Bitcoins (except 0.01% of the cases), so the issue of adoption of altcoins is in itself somewhat of an oxymoron. But there will be a day when this will change.

In early April I wrote again (same price 0.0012)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=549572.msg6020352#msg6020352

As for Hirocoin vs DRK, Hirocoin is competing in the transparent market vs other altcoins.

The transparent market is a monopoly right now of 10bn market cap value where Bitcoin is the undisputed leader. Darkcoin is creating a new market and providing a new choice: Do you want your transactions and your money to be tracked, or do you want privacy?

So, just as you have one shop and everyone goes there (100% market) and then another one opens and the marketshare is shifted towards the new choice, it's the same situation with Darkcoin.

By presenting a new choice, people will now be able to choose on whether they want public or private cryptocurrencies. If even 1% of the transparent market opts for privacy, we are talking about 100 mn market cap. If 10% goes for the private market, we are talking about a billion USD.

I don't know how Hirocoin, or any other plain altcoin can have a better "this is the coin to watch" prospect than DRK. The fundamentals are very strong.

So we went from a 4mn anonymous market to ~70-100mn (depending if one counts the Bytecoin marketcap), getting the 1% milestone.

Next stop is the 10% milestone for anonymous coins. It could take a while though. This is not a ride for people with Attention Deficit Disorder who want to see the price move up every day and panic if it doesn't, or people who are into pumps and dumps between coins.

Now show me ONE technical analysis which predicted anonymous marketcaps of 70-100mn USD. Oh, there is none because they ignore the fundamentals.

[naxin]

The downtrend might be inevitable but your scenario isn't.

The truth lies somewhere between you and the turbo bull holders that think we are moonbound any moment.

No, it doesn't. The price has peaked at 0.025 after growing over 10x during a bubble. To assume it can't do it again is nieve.

lol.

I don't think you grasped what I was saying. I meant currently, right now, in this very moment what DRK is worth. People in this thread still think any moment DRK is going up another .01 BTC, and then we have people like you who think it's crashing through the floor any moment. The truth is somewhere in between.

If DRK gets all its' sweet features it's going way north of .025, no denying that.

Maybe. But without any big news you'll be fighting 0.01 in a matter of days. There is no argument for that. I've posted the evidence, and it is completely irrefutable. The same thing happened with BTC, everyone thought 800 was the bottom, then 700, then 600, while the professionals called it as soon as soon as the double top appeared at 400. If you guys don't want to be told whats going to happen that's your problem. I'm going to enjoy checking up on this thread and watching all you shills turn on this project and start blaming the whales.

Don't say you wern't warned.

Enjoy.

"Maybe. But without any big news you'll be fighting 0.01 in a matter of days. There is no argument for that. I've posted the evidence, and it is completely irrefutable."

Until you said that, I thought you had a shred of credibility.

Anyone who makes such a bold statement clearly has a fundamental misunderstanding about these markets. There is no such thing as irrefutable evidence when talking about financial instruments.

You are pretending to have certainty in markets that are inherently uncertain.

[mikemikemike]

Mike3 I hope you still have a core position in drk in case your scenario does not materialize. Sounds like you are very confident in your TA though. Maybe too much? If it doesn't happen get ready for the storm of I-told-you-so's. Either way somebody here is going to win big. Should be fun.

Honestly, I check the market every few hours aswell as the news. The master node payments are going live again on the 15th, I expect a small rally after that, but only a small one, that's if the price isn't already below 0.01 by then, if it is, then that rally could trigger a breakout. But until the 16th, when everything is proven working, I don't see what big news could throw the market. BTCe adding DRK would probably be something, but I really so struggle to see what sort of news could cause a breakout. I might be wrong though, something major might happen, it just seems unlikely its gong to be on the magnitude to break the current downtrend.

Ill be buying back in huge once the floor has been found though. I did last time @ 0.011 and rode it back to 0.024 before selling. Now I'm going to do it again. I just thought I'd give people a headsup so at least they would know what's coming.

[slapper]

Do we have a speculation thread? (why not?)

The  action today has been on Mintpal with XC bag holders running for the exits, massive sell offs, exceeding even the volume of DRK today 

It was pretty impressive that there was no one trolling in their thread as it unfolded.

When an Alt reaches DRK type of valuation, it is going to be pretty hard to get folks to buy in. It is already considered too expensive and "boat missed". There will be more XC type of alts coming down the road because of this very reason. The whole XC thing has to be unbelievable and goes to show you how people will be exploited down the road.

[humanitee]

Maybe. But without any big news you'll be fighting 0.01 in a matter of days. There is no argument for that. I've posted the evidence, and it is completely irrefutable. The same thing happened with BTC, everyone thought 800 was the bottom, then 700, then 600, while the professionals called it as soon as soon as the double top appeared at 400. If you guys don't want to be told whats going to happen that's your problem. I'm going to enjoy checking up on this thread and watching all you shills turn on this project and start blaming the whales.

Don't say you wern't warned.

Enjoy.

You don't know what's going to happen. Neither do I. Neither do the professionals.
My version of the truth is much more moderate and therefore statistically more likely. Standard deviation and whatnot.

BiFinex is astoundingly huge news and keeps us above .01, IMO.

Anyone who makes such a bold statement clearly has a fundamental misunderstanding about these markets. There is no such thing as irrefutable evidence when talking about financial instruments.

You are pretending to have certainty in markets that are inherently uncertain.

Amen.

Gotta go, peace guys.

[Donho]

Once I had thought, it would be nice "if there is rcp command to see whois masternode payee of current block"

Today I have found how to get.

It's already there. no special rcp command needed.

test from testnet

darkcoind getblockcount | xargs darkcoind getblockhash | xargs darkcoind getblock
{
    "hash" : "00000000872761db459d3cdb7dadd183bafc052ec3f432d02d7b4742979b7e92",
    "confirmations" : 1,
    "size" : 394,
    "height" : 14496,
    "version" : 2,
    "merkleroot" : "3d28a066e97574188e10f27cfc0bfbe91d0d39ca56507a47a8bfca776551ff5d",
    "tx" : [
        "3d28a066e97574188e10f27cfc0bfbe91d0d39ca56507a47a8bfca776551ff5d"
    ],
    "time" : 1401982098,
    "nonce" : 5783647,
    "bits" : "1d01e59b",
    "difficulty" : 0.52716889,
    "previousblockhash" : "00000000f5fcba2074957bfd98aeb12cab4b79df340b6bebfb35f12f4631d12c"
}

darkcoind getrawtransaction 3d28a066e97574188e10f27cfc0bfbe91d0d39ca56507a47a8bfca776551ff5d 1
{
    "hex" : "01000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000fffff fff2902a038062f503253482f049f8c905308f800000efc000000102f7374726174756d2d736572 7665722f000000000200a7a924030000001976a9143d74a9ccac3688cffbd0e93c3cd94e5131c3f 4a188ac002f6859000000001976a9148da5005f4efa2385c50fcfaac37473b3def8514388ac0000 0000",
    "txid" : "3d28a066e97574188e10f27cfc0bfbe91d0d39ca56507a47a8bfca776551ff5d",
    "version" : 1,
    "locktime" : 0,
    "vin" : [
        {
            "coinbase" : "02a038062f503253482f049f8c905308f800000efc000000102f7374726174756d2d73657276657 22f",
            "sequence" : 0
        }
    ],
    "vout" : [
        {
            "value" : 135.00000000,
            "n" : 0,
            "scriptPubKey" : {
                "asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 3d74a9ccac3688cffbd0e93c3cd94e5131c3f4a1 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
                "hex" : "76a9143d74a9ccac3688cffbd0e93c3cd94e5131c3f4a188ac",
                "reqSigs" : 1,
                "type" : "pubkeyhash",
                "addresses" : [
                    "mm7uGfNfWZSMgaLM3UruY5wCwt35sJtGEn"
                ]
            }
        },
        {
            "value" : 15.00000000,
            "n" : 1,
            "scriptPubKey" : {
                "asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 8da5005f4efa2385c50fcfaac37473b3def85143 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
                "hex" : "76a9148da5005f4efa2385c50fcfaac37473b3def8514388ac",
                "reqSigs" : 1,
                "type" : "pubkeyhash",
                "addresses" : [
                    "mtRuEbzakYd8vb98szxiHE8unB1mqaXJPY"
                ]
            }
        }
    ],
    "blockhash" : "00000000872761db459d3cdb7dadd183bafc052ec3f432d02d7b4742979b7e92",
    "confirmations" : 1,
    "time" : 1401982098,
    "blocktime" : 1401982098
}

You see what you know. LOL..

nice! could you maybe do a stats page showing which masternode got payed how often?
muchas gracias el presidente!

[mikemikemike]

The downtrend might be inevitable but your scenario isn't.

The truth lies somewhere between you and the turbo bull holders that think we are moonbound any moment.

No, it doesn't. The price has peaked at 0.025 after growing over 10x during a bubble. To assume it can't do it again is nieve.

lol.

I don't think you grasped what I was saying. I meant currently, right now, in this very moment what DRK is worth. People in this thread still think any moment DRK is going up another .01 BTC, and then we have people like you who think it's crashing through the floor any moment. The truth is somewhere in between.

If DRK gets all its' sweet features it's going way north of .025, no denying that.

Maybe. But without any big news you'll be fighting 0.01 in a matter of days. There is no argument for that. I've posted the evidence, and it is completely irrefutable. The same thing happened with BTC, everyone thought 800 was the bottom, then 700, then 600, while the professionals called it as soon as soon as the double top appeared at 400. If you guys don't want to be told whats going to happen that's your problem. I'm going to enjoy checking up on this thread and watching all you shills turn on this project and start blaming the whales.

Don't say you wern't warned.

Enjoy.

"Maybe. But without any big news you'll be fighting 0.01 in a matter of days. There is no argument for that. I've posted the evidence, and it is completely irrefutable."

Until you said that, I thought you had a shred of credibility.

Anyone who makes such a bold statement clearly has a fundamental misunderstanding about these markets. There is no such thing as irrefutable evidence when talking about financial instruments.

You are pretending to have certainty in markets that are inherently uncertain.

Nope. This isn't Wall Street. Your not going to get the buying power to cause a breakout from the end of a bubble without major news. Fullstop. No question about it. Zero argument. No amount of shills are going to change the outcome without a fundamental change in the situation, and that's only going to come from news.

This is certain. 150%

[mikemikemike]

Maybe. But without any big news you'll be fighting 0.01 in a matter of days. There is no argument for that. I've posted the evidence, and it is completely irrefutable. The same thing happened with BTC, everyone thought 800 was the bottom, then 700, then 600, while the professionals called it as soon as soon as the double top appeared at 400. If you guys don't want to be told whats going to happen that's your problem. I'm going to enjoy checking up on this thread and watching all you shills turn on this project and start blaming the whales.

Don't say you wern't warned.

Enjoy.

You don't know what's going to happen. Neither do I. Neither do the professionals.
My version of the truth is much more moderate and therefore statistically more likely. Standard deviation and whatnot.

BiFinex is astoundingly huge news and keeps us above .01, IMO.

Anyone who makes such a bold statement clearly has a fundamental misunderstanding about these markets. There is no such thing as irrefutable evidence when talking about financial instruments.

You are pretending to have certainty in markets that are inherently uncertain.

Amen.

Gotta go, peace guys.

Ill quote you on that when we've broken through 0.01. Any professional would tell you you have no idea what your talking about. These arn't normal markets. These people arn't professional traders. It's like playing football with the other team in wheelchairs. This isn't a level playing field.

I've tried to level it for you but whatever.

[T.Stuart]

Check the 12h charts, the google 'stock bubble pattern'. The two images are identical.

Deep TA you got there