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[minerjav]

Meanwhile interesting events over at Lite Club....

Who can image a situation like you show back on December/January (just few months ago). Thanks for the picture, interesting.

[GhostPlayer]

I feel like screaming like a little giiiirl !!!....Got another MN payout 

I just got another one as well.

But aren't we in danger of creating 2 tiers of DRK "citizens" ?

An "elite" Masternode class who get interest payments, and the rest who get nothing.

This thread is rapidly becoming the domain of the former. They'd better hope their 'lesser' compatriots don't dump for another one that gives them 'staking interest' whatever the size of their holding.

Just saying - we might as well acknowledge and discuss this before the fudsters start ramming it down our throats.

What you mean "2 tiers of DRK citizens" ? I really did not understand this post, but would like to follow your train of thought

[roede94105]

Roede94105 here,

Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!

If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!

Yer a wizard, Yida 

[GhostPlayer]

Roede94105 here,

Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!

If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!

Yer a wizard, Yida  

My pleasure!!  

for reference, roede did sign up for a Full Masternode Setup, so I did do all the server side configs. And never ever touched the funds.

Total trustless service!

[camosoul]

I feel like screaming like a little giiiirl !!!....Got another MN payout  

I just got another one as well.

But aren't we in danger of creating 2 tiers of DRK "citizens" ?

An "elite" Masternode class who get interest payments, and the rest who get nothing.

This thread is rapidly becoming the domain of the former. They'd better hope their 'lesser' compatriots don't dump for another one that gives them 'staking interest' whatever the size of their holding.

Just saying - we might as well acknowledge and discuss this before the fudsters start ramming it down our throats.

What you mean "2 tiers of DRK citizens" ? I really did not understand this post, but would like to follow your train of thought

He's trying to make a good thing look like a bad thing with socialist class warfare argument.

There are already two tiers: people qualified to run a masternode and lazy whiners who complain that it "isn't fair."

The lazy whiners want money-hose-for-nothing and say it isn't "fair" that people who actually work for what they have get to have what they have. Next they'll vote to tax DRK and give free DRK to the lazy ones...

[CryptoGretzky]

Roede94105 here,

Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!

If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!

Yer a wizard, Yida  

My pleasure!!  

for reference, roede did sign up for a Full Masternode Setup, so I did do all the server side setup. And never ever touched the funds.
Total trustless setup!

It takes 4 hours to setup a MN by an expert?

[georgem]

Mario knows what's best for his future!  

[roede94105]

Roede94105 here,

Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!

If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!

Yer a wizard, Yida  

My pleasure!!  

for reference, roede did sign up for a Full Masternode Setup, so I did do all the server side setup. And never ever touched the funds.
Total trustless setup!

Yes, I should have mentioned that he never asked access for the funds, and every time he copy pasted addresses to win us time, he reminded me to check it was the correct one and not a scam attempt from him.

Perfect.

[roede94105]

Roede94105 here,

Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!

If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!

Yer a wizard, Yida  

My pleasure!!  

for reference, roede did sign up for a Full Masternode Setup, so I did do all the server side setup. And never ever touched the funds.
Total trustless setup!

It takes 4 hours to setup a MN by an expert?

It takes 4 hours to take my hand and make me download ubuntu and learn to use the terminal and setup my own amazon EC2 server and check that I didn't do any mistake etc.

[tifozi]

Mario knows what's best for his future!  

Some Darkcoiners seem to be really good at graphics/shooping 

[toknormal]

What you mean "2 tiers of DRK citizens" ? I really did not understand this post, but would like to follow your train of thought

I think I already explained.

Ones that receive "interest" and ones that don't.

The thread's now dominated by masternode holders discussing their masternodes, but they are in the minority amongst holders. Most holders are not masternode'ers. They do not receive interest payments and are not participants in this whole process, yet they're the ones who determine the valuation. I see that as a problem.

It could have a potentially divisive effect on the  stakeholder base by creating an "us and them" atmosphere, particular when all everyone does is bang on about how much their getting from their masternode and nothing about what service masternodes provide to other holders. This needs to be addressed IMO otherwise people will ask "why am I holding this declining value coin just so they can cream off my transaction fees ?".

i.e. non-masternode holders need to see a tangible benefit from the existence of the MN network, otherwise they'll just see it as overhead and dump.

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[minerjav]

To reduce the "F5" MN payments refresh interval, here is a link that I saw several times on different forums. (Not sure about accuracy).

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

For countries with serious debts problems, the citizens of these countries have at lease one option with crypto currencies (Hey, DRK is a great option).
http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

[slapper]

Roede94105 here,

Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!

If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!

Yer a wizard, Yida  

My pleasure!!  

for reference, roede did sign up for a Full Masternode Setup, so I did do all the server side setup. And never ever touched the funds.
Total trustless setup!

It takes 4 hours to setup a MN by an expert?

It takes 4 hours to take my hand and make me download ubuntu and learn to use the terminal and setup my own amazon EC2 server and check that I didn't do any mistake etc.

You got trolled on. He has been doing this ever since his discovery of ....

You know why Xnode will be way more decentralized at the end in comparison to DRK?

It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode.  4 hours!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7564470#msg7564470

DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather...  Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?

[chaeplin]

Roede94105 here,

Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!

If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!

Yer a wizard, Yida  

My pleasure!!  

for reference, roede did sign up for a Full Masternode Setup, so I did do all the server side setup. And never ever touched the funds.
Total trustless setup!

It takes 4 hours to setup a MN by an expert?

It takes 4 hours to take my hand and make me download ubuntu and learn to use the terminal and setup my own amazon EC2 server and check that I didn't do any mistake etc.

You got trolled on. He has been doing this ever since his discovery of ....

You know why Xnode will be way more decentralized at the end in comparison to DRK?

It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode.  4 hours!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7564470#msg7564470

DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather...  Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?

Oh.. XC troll..

[Ozziecoin]

What you mean "2 tiers of DRK citizens" ? I really did not understand this post, but would like to follow your train of thought

I think I already explained.

Ones that receive "interest" and ones that don't.

The thread's now dominated by masternode holders discussing their masternodes, but they are in the minority amongst holders. Most holders are not masternode'ers. They do not receive interest payments and are not participants in this whole process, yet they're the ones who determine the valuation. I see that as a problem.

It could have a potentially divisive effect on the  stakeholder base by creating an "us and them" atmosphere, particular when all everyone does is bang on about how much their getting from their masternode and nothing about what service masternodes provide to other holders. This needs to be addressed IMO otherwise people will ask "why am I holding this declining value coin just so they can cream off my transaction fees ?".

i.e. non-masternode holders need to see a tangible benefit from the existence of the MN network, otherwise they'll just see it as overhead and dump.

Non MN holders get darksend and maybe the 1000 limit will be reduced in future. 

[T.Stuart]

What you mean "2 tiers of DRK citizens" ? I really did not understand this post, but would like to follow your train of thought

I think I already explained.

Ones that receive "interest" and ones that don't.

The thread's now dominated by masternode holders discussing their masternodes, but they are in the minority amongst holders. Most holders are not masternode'ers. They do not receive interest payments and are not participants in this whole process, yet they're the ones who determine the valuation. I see that as a problem.

It could have a potentially divisive effect on the  stakeholder base by creating an "us and them" atmosphere, particular when all everyone does is bang on about how much their getting from their masternode and nothing about what service masternodes provide to other holders. This needs to be addressed IMO otherwise people will ask "why am I holding this declining value coin just so they can cream off my transaction fees ?".

i.e. non-masternode holders need to see a tangible benefit from the existence of the MN network, otherwise they'll just see it as overhead and dump.

+1

I don't know how feasible this is, but if some kind of POS could be integrated so that DRK holders could earn interest on the coins in their wallet, that would be enough to close the divide IMO. Then DRK enthusiasts have TWO ways of earning coins; those who do not feel competent enough to run a Masternode can still benefit from interest earnings.

POS is working well for certain other coins. Incidentally as a side note I think it is worth congratulating DRK holders for resisting any urges that may have been felt to sell up and hop onto Vericoin. Some other weaker coins have been falling recently - I believe in the mad rush to change sides (which will end in tears for many, as usual!).

[toknormal]

Non MN holders get darksend and maybe the 1000 limit will be reduced in future.  

Fair enough.

They will have the last say about that though and that will be the one that matters.

Also, darksend will have to do something that other "sends" don't given that it costs something that other sends "don't" (at least that may end up being how the market sees it).

[GhostPlayer]

It takes 4 hours to setup a MN by an expert?

 First, if you check my sig, one of the first things I say is I am not an expert.

 Second, I take care of the "dirty" side of it, the VPS setup - quick and efficiently

 Third, I 'm on IRC (or whatever) making sure the Masternode owner, who has no linux skills at all, understand every single step of the way of the local setup and configs (so I dont Teamviewer or something), which I think is crucial to protect the investment, setting up local.cold / remote setup.

And I do it in a manner that makes double sure neither side is able to scam the other. This includes setting up EC2 account from scratch, and local setup.

 And it costs 1% of the total investment.

 Does this offend you?

[roede94105]

Roede94105 here,

Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!

If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!

Yer a wizard, Yida  

My pleasure!!  

for reference, roede did sign up for a Full Masternode Setup, so I did do all the server side setup. And never ever touched the funds.
Total trustless setup!

It takes 4 hours to setup a MN by an expert?

It takes 4 hours to take my hand and make me download ubuntu and learn to use the terminal and setup my own amazon EC2 server and check that I didn't do any mistake etc.

You got trolled on. He has been doing this ever since his discovery of ....

You know why Xnode will be way more decentralized at the end in comparison to DRK?

It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode.  4 hours!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7564470#msg7564470

DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather...  Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?

I see.. Fuck this guy.