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September 13, 2014, 11:39:39 PM |
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Side note, jalapeno martinis es muy bueno. Carry on.
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strix
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September 13, 2014, 11:48:19 PM |
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Hello everyone I have been lurking for ages and there are few pages on this thread I have not touched on, but I am finally sticking my timid neck out. There is much that I still have to learn, and I appreciate what many of you have shared. I would like to think that I am not alone in my lurking, and suspect that there are many who will be willing to jump in with their Btc or fiat as Drk moves out of beta. However, I suspect that the crude responses to troll bait, often found here, has put more than one person off. My skin is thicker than my peers, and I can assure you that they would associate the low language with the level of intellect that often accompanies it. (And would be unjust in doing so.) I am well aware that I am not your mother, and have no business telling you how to conduct yourselves, so please do not think that I am. I am simply suggesting you remember that this thread is in fact a marketing tool, and that you realize that while in many quarters openly crude speech is acceptable, much money (and desire for privacy) is hands attached to ears which will not tolerate it. They will simply leave with their check-books. (Yup, they still use them!) Having got that off my chest let me say that I am excited about the prospects for DRK and encouraged by the ongoing development that is taking place. As far as the current discussion goes; I agree that the "+" should eventually be dropped, and with the idea that the coin is close enough to its inception to be re-branded IF the developers so choose--It has already been renamed once. On the other hand, I hope the dev. team has someone listening here, and think it is important for the community to present their opinions and hash things like this out. Not that I expect serious consideration, but in the interest of raising the grammatical bar, how does "metagrobolize" sound? As in "the DRK metagrobolizer (Darksend) will meagrobolize any entity attempting to track the ownership of DRK." I mean seriously, don't you look forward to being able to metagrobolize the NSA and the Fed? Carry on, strix Unfortunately, everyone is allowed to hold darkcoin, even if they use crude language. And unfortunately, this forum is full of troll's bait vs. crude responses. If you want to take Darkcoin serious, you should leave bitcointalk. How about https://darkcointalk.org/ ? Thanks vertoe, I just returned from signing up there. BTW--I don't consider it unfortunate that everyone is allowed to own Drk, or even to post here. I am glad they can and do. Trollers will troll, and my point was that anyone serious about can clearly see who the trollers are, and their agenda. It only lends credence to the DRK brand that they see the necessity to try and knock it down. An initial polite, logical rebuttal, followed by a refusal to engage speaks more highly of the caliber of the community than rising to the flame bait. As I said, this thread is in itself an important marketing tool, that should not be underestimated. It is more than a playground for aficionados, it is often a first stop for the curious.
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patrolman
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September 13, 2014, 11:55:12 PM |
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apple=mobiles and computers!! wii u = games console! oculus rift = vr headset! xbox one = 3rd gen microsoft games console! darksend+ = anon by mixing coins no need to change anything. Exactly ! How about these Apple products and services: iPhone iTunes iCloud Apple Watch Apple Pay Are they fairly self explanatory, or not? The previous examples and yours prove that the name is not that important, it can be related or non related to the function/service. So why the hang-up ? "When everything is fine let's find a trivial matter to argue about" lol I agree in a way that the name can be related or not but I think we can probably agree that iPizza would have been a bad name for the phone, or iPhone would have been a bad name for an iPod with no network capabilities. In my opinion it would be a mistake to continue with Darksend to describe the anonymisation mixing/blending/fogging process, (or whatever else you want to call it). Send is a verb which already has a fairly well established meaning, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it does not mean mixing. It's erroneous to think that Darkcoin is too far along for DarkSend to be renamed at this point. The number of people who actually know what DarkSend is right now must be fairly low, certainly lower than most of us here think it should be and much lower than it will be if cryptocurrencies really take off. In fact, I would say during the release candidate stage is a great time to fix things.
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coins101
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September 13, 2014, 11:59:37 PM |
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apple=mobiles and computers!! wii u = games console! oculus rift = vr headset! xbox one = 3rd gen microsoft games console! darksend+ = anon by mixing coins no need to change anything. darksend+ = anon by mixing coinsThat's my point made right there. anon by mixing coins. sigh. dude what it does, doesnt have to be the title is my point. The term CoinJoin says otherwise. Kritsov Atlas http://youtu.be/CRSr88jJv-Y?t=1h21m40s
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Kai Proctor
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September 14, 2014, 12:11:44 AM |
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apple=mobiles and computers!! wii u = games console! oculus rift = vr headset! xbox one = 3rd gen microsoft games console! darksend+ = anon by mixing coins no need to change anything. Exactly ! How about these Apple products and services: iPhone iTunes iCloud Apple Watch Apple Pay Are they fairly self explanatory, or not? The previous examples and yours prove that the name is not that important, it can be related or non related to the function/service. So why the hang-up ? "When everything is fine let's find a trivial matter to argue about" lol I agree in a way that the name can be related or not but I think we can probably agree that iPizza would have been a bad name for the phone, or iPhone would have been a bad name for an iPod with no network capabilities. In my opinion it would be a mistake to continue with Darksend to describe the anonymisation mixing/blending/fogging process, (or whatever else you want to call it). Send is a verb which already has a fairly well established meaning, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it does not mean mixing. It's erroneous to think that Darkcoin is too far along for DarkSend to be renamed at this point. The number of people who actually know what DarkSend is right now must be fairly low, certainly lower than most of us here think it should be and much lower than it will be if cryptocurrencies really take off. In fact, I would say during the release candidate stage is a great time to fix things. The consumers want to send funds anonymously they use for that something named Darksend : it's not far fetched. The coins can be "blended", "mixed", "shuffled" or "teleported" as part of the process, they don't care, their goal is to send cash via internet. Or you call it DarkDenominationMixRounds jk
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strix
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September 14, 2014, 12:17:07 AM |
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Coins101, I have enjoyed and learned a lot from many of your posts--thanks! I remember a week or so ago you changed your tag line in response to a critique so that it now reads "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For everything else, there's DARKCOIN." I suspect that this still does not communicate what you would like. Consider the meaning of the phrase "For everything else..." It applies to the things that Bitcoin should buy (not the things that it shouldn't). Hence the statement communicates that DRK buys only those things that Bitcoin does. I like the idea that I think you are trying to convey, but it still needs work. How about "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For those things, and everything else, there's DARKCOIN." Just a thought strix
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splawik21
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
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September 14, 2014, 12:25:34 AM |
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Yes! The only thing I think is worth discussing is if we get rid of the +
I think we should. It was added to differentiate from a completely different previous design. But the truth is nobody knew before about Darksend, I think it is not necessary.
Agree lets - the + and stay at primary unique name Darksend.
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BE SMART, USE DASH ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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patrolman
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September 14, 2014, 12:25:54 AM |
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The consumers want to send funds anonymously they use for that something named Darksend : it's not far fetched. The coins can be "blended", "mixed", "shuffled" or "teleported" as part of the process, they don't care, their goal is to send cash via internet.
Exactly. They could be fuddled, they could be muddled, they could be discombobulated. There must be a better term, which could be combined with "Dark" to describe the mixing process, by no means does it have to be "mix". DarkSend is a great term to describe sending anonymised coins but not so much for the mixing process.
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September 14, 2014, 12:27:01 AM |
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Darkness by Darkcoin
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coins101
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September 14, 2014, 12:48:32 AM |
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Coins101, I have enjoyed and learned a lot from many of your posts--thanks! I remember a week or so ago you changed your tag line in response to a critique so that it now reads "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For everything else, there's DARKCOIN." I suspect that this still does not communicate what you would like. Consider the meaning of the phrase "For everything else..." It applies to the things that Bitcoin should buy (not the things that it shouldn't). Hence the statement communicates that DRK buys only those things that Bitcoin does. I like the idea that I think you are trying to convey, but it still needs work. How about "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For those things, and everything else, there's DARKCOIN." Just a thought strix here If you're trying to remain anonymous....be careful not to reveal any information linking your bitcoin addresses to your identity. Satoshi, 2010 There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For those things, and everything else, there's DARKCOIN
lets see how it looks in your sig
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RenegadeMan
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September 14, 2014, 01:09:28 AM |
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Coins101, I have enjoyed and learned a lot from many of your posts--thanks! I remember a week or so ago you changed your tag line in response to a critique so that it now reads "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For everything else, there's DARKCOIN." I suspect that this still does not communicate what you would like. Consider the meaning of the phrase "For everything else..." It applies to the things that Bitcoin should buy (not the things that it shouldn't). Hence the statement communicates that DRK buys only those things that Bitcoin does. I like the idea that I think you are trying to convey, but it still needs work. How about "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For those things, and everything else, there's DARKCOIN." Just a thought strix Strix your grasp of grammar and the need for sentences to clearly articulate what the writer is trying to communicate is just way too advanced for this thread! (actually, the whole darned Internet....) I also enjoy your posts Coins101 and had been thinking the same thing about your tag line.
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BTC: 1KjAPEa3WvhmDGT4jmT9i5P3UPFdFH629e DASH: Xdr6U5qcAdbuKRrr3xKBb1ySoPq7MKERnB
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camosoul
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September 14, 2014, 01:19:14 AM |
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Darksend is what it was, is and pretty much always will be.... can we please move on. if you really wanna bicker about something then bicker about if its called Darksend or DarkSend or Darksend+
When I first used the term "Darksend+" I was trying to differentiate between the old merging technology and this new passive merging technology utilizing denominations for increased anonymity. Now that we're past all of that maybe it makes no sense to use Darksend+, the product isn't even out of beta so it doesn't make much sense to have a second branding. So maybe we should just drop the plus and move on? I think that we petty serfs mull these notions so you need not be distracted by form and may deal in function. I simply hope that a name that reflects the function is considered at some point down the road when said function is done morphing.
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camosoul
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September 14, 2014, 01:21:46 AM |
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apple=mobiles and computers!! wii u = games console! oculus rift = vr headset! xbox one = 3rd gen microsoft games console! darksend+ = anon by mixing coins no need to change anything. darksend+ = anon by mixing coinsThat's my point made right there. anon by mixing coins. sigh. Yes. Anon by mixing coins. Where is sending involved? Do you not expect noobs to ask this? And our answer: "Well, uh, it's totally not related at all cuz, you see, once upon a time long ago in alpha-level-idea land, it was a much smaller idea, but we never updated the name, so, uh, now it's just confusing and makes no sense. Sorry. We swear it's awesome, we just haven't got the sense to give it a name that isn't retarded... Here, have a progress indicator that still doesn't explain shit and also doesn't work. Just another bunch of stupid crap to distract from the real programming. No, really, trust us, we're great!" Adoption! Moon! Such wow!
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camosoul
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September 14, 2014, 01:24:22 AM |
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everyone is allowed to hold darkcoin
Whew! Dodged a bullet on that one! Now I need an exception for "People who are hated by sissies for being awesome, are allowed to hold DRK." Damn, I just realized I don't have permission from anyone do do pretty much fuck-all of anything I do in my waking life... Shit. I better start filling out government forms or something... Yeah, I'm totally gonna do that.
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September 14, 2014, 01:30:28 AM |
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Hi guys
I've made my first Darkcoin investment only about 2btc for now. I'm trying to learn more about the Darkcoin technology and it's all really confusing to me. It will probably take me a while to get even a slight grasp on this. My question is, am I able to earn interest with my coins? Thanks
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camosoul
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September 14, 2014, 01:32:27 AM |
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am I able to earn interest
No. DRK is not a Proof of Shit. Stagnation isn't on our roadmap. You have to actually DO something if you want to get paid, like set up a masternode, or panic sell... Really? You invested BEFORE figuring this out? [sigh] This is why Do gucheCoin is pumping for no reason right now...
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onetime
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September 14, 2014, 01:48:55 AM |
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Hi guys I've made my first Darkcoin investment only about 2btc for now. I'm trying to learn more about the Darkcoin technology and it's all really confusing to me. It will probably take me a while to get even a slight grasp on this. My question is, am I able to earn interest with my coins? Thanks so you probably have about 326 Darkcoins, right? to earn interest you'd need to run a masternode. masternodes are complicated to set up, and each masternode requires 1,000 Darkcoins. when you run a masternode you randomly get payments, on average about 0.66 Darkcoins per day. if you can't afford to buy 1,000 Darkcoins, it's possible to join a group of investors who split the payments according to their shares.
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strix
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September 14, 2014, 01:49:31 AM |
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Coins101, I have enjoyed and learned a lot from many of your posts--thanks! I remember a week or so ago you changed your tag line in response to a critique so that it now reads "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For everything else, there's DARKCOIN." I suspect that this still does not communicate what you would like. Consider the meaning of the phrase "For everything else..." It applies to the things that Bitcoin should buy (not the things that it shouldn't). Hence the statement communicates that DRK buys only those things that Bitcoin does. I like the idea that I think you are trying to convey, but it still needs work. How about "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For those things, and everything else, there's DARKCOIN." Just a thought strix here If you're trying to remain anonymous....be careful not to reveal any information linking your bitcoin addresses to your identity. Satoshi, 2010 There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For those things, and everything else, there's DARKCOIN
lets see how it looks in your sig Sorry, as a newbie I'm only allowed 50 characters. Besides, I prefer to be original (or I would be on a copycoin thread). strix
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Je le hibou, suis ↄash; because while the days are evil good must hurry, lest evil parading as an agent of light restrict its activity. XnUjqiYV5mvXAWrWUbGFmitPvmWSthxhBi
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TsuyokuNaritai
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September 14, 2014, 01:54:26 AM |
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Coins101, I have enjoyed and learned a lot from many of your posts--thanks! I remember a week or so ago you changed your tag line in response to a critique so that it now reads "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For everything else, there's DARKCOIN." I suspect that this still does not communicate what you would like. Consider the meaning of the phrase "For everything else..." It applies to the things that Bitcoin should buy (not the things that it shouldn't). Hence the statement communicates that DRK buys only those things that Bitcoin does. I like the idea that I think you are trying to convey, but it still needs work. How about "There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For those things, and everything else, there's DARKCOIN." Just a thought strix here If you're trying to remain anonymous....be careful not to reveal any information linking your bitcoin addresses to your identity. Satoshi, 2010 There are some things Bitcoin shouldn't buy. For those things, and everything else, there's DARKCOIN
lets see how it looks in your sig Sorry, as a newbie I'm only allowed 50 characters. Besides, I prefer to be original (or I would be on a copycoin thread). strix There are some things money can't buy. So for everything, there's Darkcoin.
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