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September 15, 2014, 03:40:24 AM
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I am very, very concerned that American's will turn to Bitcoin and then eventually to Darkcoin to try and hide their worldwide income.
Uh yeah sure you are  Grin
Sure they will. Give them time Wink

Habib, now I'm logging in each day just to see what you've done with your sig  Cheesy

is that coins101 real name?

Haha not sure, I was talking to Splawik21...

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September 15, 2014, 03:57:14 AM
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What going on DOGE. Megapump ?

Started with Doge/CNY on the merge mining with LTC.

Its a China controlled pump.

Actually, most of crypto movements, recently, are taking place in China  Roll Eyes

And I'm willing to bet 10 DRK with someone these last couple of months have been a Chinese LTC whale keeping DRK at .5 of LTC with bots...

Looks like there's more and more buy pressure to get the price moving. The whale can only sell and keep the price down for so long. As soon as the open source date and announcement - boom. I would say this is the prime time to buy the last batch of coins at these prices.
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September 15, 2014, 04:03:00 AM
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Is there a guide
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Quote from: IRC
9/14   8:51 pm  <evan82>  I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions. I know how to do it...
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  It'll be compatible with Darksend too. So we'll have anonymous instant transactions.
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  Oh and there will be no bloat, that is the problem with POS. I bet we can get a confirmation within 10-20 seconds in most cases.
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  It also fixes the finney attack, which is another huge problem for bitcoin
9/14   8:56 pm  <eth2>      =) thats some good news
9/14   8:56 pm  <eth2>      lemme know when you need testers
9/14   8:57 pm  <evan82>  Yeah, I'm obviously pretty excited about it. I just had a eureka moment
9/14   8:58 pm  <evan82>  It's simple, elegant, instant and will cost a ton of money to subvert. Perfect Cheesy
9/14   8:59 pm  <eth2>      does that have any technical implication on how transactions are processed and blocks?
9/14   8:59 pm  <eth2>      from a pool standpoint
9/14   8:59 pm  <evan82>  nope.
9/14   8:59 pm  <evan82>  It's not even a hard fork
[...]
9/14   9:25 pm  <moli>       interesting.. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4942/what-is-a-finney-attack
9/14   9:27 pm  <evan82>  It could possibly stop a finney attack. It's funny you post that, it's what I'm thinking about righ now
9/14   9:27 pm  <evan82>  right*
9/14   9:28 pm  <evan82>  It can definitely stop all other double spends, but finney attacks require the client to reject blocks.

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September 15, 2014, 04:25:31 AM
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Quote from: IRC
9/14   8:51 pm <evan82> I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions. I know how to do it...
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> It'll be compatible with Darksend too. So we'll have anonymous instant transactions.
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> Oh and there will be no bloat, that is the problem with POS. I bet we can get a confirmation within 10-20 seconds in most cases.
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> It also fixes the finney attack, which is another huge problem for bitcoin
9/14   8:56 pm <eth2> =) thats some good news
9/14   8:56 pm <eth2> lemme know when you need testers
9/14   8:57 pm <evan82> Yeah, I'm obviously pretty excited about it. I just had a eureka moment
9/14   8:58 pm <evan82> It's simple, elegant, instant and will cost a ton of money to subvert. Perfect Cheesy
9/14   8:59 pm <eth2> does that have any technical implication on how transactions are processed and blocks?
9/14   8:59 pm <eth2> from a pool standpoint
9/14   8:59 pm <evan82> nope.
9/14   8:59 pm <evan82> It's not even a hard fork
[...]
9/14   9:25 pm <moli> interesting.. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4942/what-is-a-finney-attack
9/14   9:27 pm <evan82> It could possibly stop a finney attack. It's funny you post that, it's what I'm thinking about righ now
9/14   9:27 pm <evan82> right*
9/14   9:28 pm <evan82> It can definitely stop all other double spends, but finney attacks require the client to reject blocks.

Nice !

PS : It's not "nice", it's huge !
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September 15, 2014, 04:31:12 AM
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yeah i saw that, Evan did say this in IRC. Exciting times ahead if this is the case!

Time to buy 1 or 2 more coins....

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September 15, 2014, 04:35:13 AM
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Instant transactions for RC6.... Let's do this. Instant transactions > anonimity. Might as well put darksend on hold now lol

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Quote from: IRC
9/14   8:51 pm <evan82> I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions. I know how to do it...
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> It'll be compatible with Darksend too. So we'll have anonymous instant transactions.
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> Oh and there will be no bloat, that is the problem with POS. I bet we can get a confirmation within 10-20 seconds in most cases.
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> It also fixes the finney attack, which is another huge problem for bitcoin
9/14   8:56 pm <eth2> =) thats some good news
9/14   8:56 pm <eth2> lemme know when you need testers
9/14   8:57 pm <evan82> Yeah, I'm obviously pretty excited about it. I just had a eureka moment
9/14   8:58 pm <evan82> It's simple, elegant, instant and will cost a ton of money to subvert. Perfect Cheesy
9/14   8:59 pm <eth2> does that have any technical implication on how transactions are processed and blocks?
9/14   8:59 pm <eth2> from a pool standpoint
9/14   8:59 pm <evan82> nope.
9/14   8:59 pm <evan82> It's not even a hard fork
[...]
9/14   9:25 pm <moli> interesting.. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4942/what-is-a-finney-attack
9/14   9:27 pm <evan82> It could possibly stop a finney attack. It's funny you post that, it's what I'm thinking about righ now
9/14   9:27 pm <evan82> right*
9/14   9:28 pm <evan82> It can definitely stop all other double spends, but finney attacks require the client to reject blocks.

Nice !

PS : It's not "nice", it's huge !

Holy moly, so that's why we've suddenly got a nice buy book! Wait until this gets out...
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September 15, 2014, 05:13:41 AM
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Quote from: IRC
9/14   8:51 pm <evan82> I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions. I know how to do it...
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> It'll be compatible with Darksend too. So we'll have anonymous instant transactions.
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> Oh and there will be no bloat, that is the problem with POS. I bet we can get a confirmation within 10-20 seconds in most cases.
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> It also fixes the finney attack, which is another huge problem for bitcoin
9/14   8:56 pm <eth2> =) thats some good news
9/14   8:56 pm <eth2> lemme know when you need testers
9/14   8:57 pm <evan82> Yeah, I'm obviously pretty excited about it. I just had a eureka moment
9/14   8:58 pm <evan82> It's simple, elegant, instant and will cost a ton of money to subvert. Perfect Cheesy
9/14   8:59 pm <eth2> does that have any technical implication on how transactions are processed and blocks?
9/14   8:59 pm <eth2> from a pool standpoint
9/14   8:59 pm <evan82> nope.
9/14   8:59 pm <evan82> It's not even a hard fork
[...]
9/14   9:25 pm <moli> interesting.. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4942/what-is-a-finney-attack
9/14   9:27 pm <evan82> It could possibly stop a finney attack. It's funny you post that, it's what I'm thinking about righ now
9/14   9:27 pm <evan82> right*
9/14   9:28 pm <evan82> It can definitely stop all other double spends, but finney attacks require the client to reject blocks.

Nice !

PS : It's not "nice", it's huge !

*spits out his coffee*

Evan, are you drunk? (And is this a fake conversation) If not,

This. Is. Huuuuuuge!!!

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September 15, 2014, 05:17:09 AM
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Quote from: IRC
9/14   8:51 pm <evan82> I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions. I know how to do it...
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> It'll be compatible with Darksend too. So we'll have anonymous instant transactions.
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> Oh and there will be no bloat, that is the problem with POS. I bet we can get a confirmation within 10-20 seconds in most cases.
9/14   8:52 pm <evan82> It also fixes the finney attack, which is another huge problem for bitcoin
9/14   8:56 pm <eth2> =) thats some good news
9/14   8:56 pm <eth2> lemme know when you need testers
9/14   8:57 pm <evan82> Yeah, I'm obviously pretty excited about it. I just had a eureka moment
9/14   8:58 pm <evan82> It's simple, elegant, instant and will cost a ton of money to subvert. Perfect Cheesy
9/14   8:59 pm <eth2> does that have any technical implication on how transactions are processed and blocks?
9/14   8:59 pm <eth2> from a pool standpoint
9/14   8:59 pm <evan82> nope.
9/14   8:59 pm <evan82> It's not even a hard fork
[...]
9/14   9:25 pm <moli> interesting.. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4942/what-is-a-finney-attack
9/14   9:27 pm <evan82> It could possibly stop a finney attack. It's funny you post that, it's what I'm thinking about righ now
9/14   9:27 pm <evan82> right*
9/14   9:28 pm <evan82> It can definitely stop all other double spends, but finney attacks require the client to reject blocks.

Nice !

PS : It's not "nice", it's huge !

Holy moly, so that's why we've suddenly got a nice buy book! Wait until this gets out...

Wow... that could be huge. I freaking love this coin

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September 15, 2014, 05:19:57 AM
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DARKCOIN: Private instant transactions

RIP Bitcoin, VISA, Mastercard and my debts!!!

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In b4 our competitors announce even faster instant transactions due to trustless hyper-teleport nano technology

EDIT: This has quite some implications on release plan by the way. For example, open source will probably be delayed until instant transactions have been implemented. Also, the name of the coin will probably be changed. Darkcoin is a good name for anonymous digital currency, it is not for the successor of bitcoin.
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In b4 our competitors announce even faster instant transactions due to trustless hyper-teleport nano technology

Lulz... Shitcoins....

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EDIT: This has quite some implications on release plan by the way. For example, open source will probably be delayed until instant transactions have been implemented. Also, the name of the coin will probably be changed. Darkcoin is a good name for anonymous digital currency, it is not for the successor of bitcoin.

Thats what I thought straight away too. I love the name Darkcoin, I would welcome something more universal that relates to both anonymity and fast transactions though.
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Woah! 15 second blocks mean that instead of waiting 1-2 hours to get all of your coins anonymized you are looking at 5-10 minutes.

This could be Massive.

Edit: It is a little early to start the coin name flamewar ehem... debate. Let's wait and see exactly what is possible and exactly what the coin becomes first.
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Quote from: IRC
9/14   8:51 pm  <evan82>  I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions. I know how to do it...
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  It'll be compatible with Darksend too. So we'll have anonymous instant transactions.
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  Oh and there will be no bloat, that is the problem with POS. I bet we can get a confirmation within 10-20 seconds in most cases.
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  It also fixes the finney attack, which is another huge problem for bitcoin
9/14   8:56 pm  <eth2>      =) thats some good news
9/14   8:56 pm  <eth2>      lemme know when you need testers
9/14   8:57 pm  <evan82>  Yeah, I'm obviously pretty excited about it. I just had a eureka moment
9/14   8:58 pm  <evan82>  It's simple, elegant, instant and will cost a ton of money to subvert. Perfect Cheesy
9/14   8:59 pm  <eth2>      does that have any technical implication on how transactions are processed and blocks?
9/14   8:59 pm  <eth2>      from a pool standpoint
9/14   8:59 pm  <evan82>  nope.
9/14   8:59 pm  <evan82>  It's not even a hard fork
[...]
9/14   9:25 pm  <moli>       interesting.. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4942/what-is-a-finney-attack
9/14   9:27 pm  <evan82>  It could possibly stop a finney attack. It's funny you post that, it's what I'm thinking about righ now
9/14   9:27 pm  <evan82>  right*
9/14   9:28 pm  <evan82>  It can definitely stop all other double spends, but finney attacks require the client to reject blocks.

WHOWWWW
this is great !!
now we just need an official statement from Evan to make this Public for real !!!!

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9/14   8:51 pm  <evan82>  I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions. I know how to do it...
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  It'll be compatible with Darksend too. So we'll have anonymous instant transactions.
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  Oh and there will be no bloat, that is the problem with POS. I bet we can get a confirmation within 10-20 seconds in most cases.
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  It also fixes the finney attack, which is another huge problem for bitcoin
9/14   8:56 pm  <eth2>      =) thats some good news
9/14   8:56 pm  <eth2>      lemme know when you need testers
9/14   8:57 pm  <evan82>  Yeah, I'm obviously pretty excited about it. I just had a eureka moment
9/14   8:58 pm  <evan82>  It's simple, elegant, instant and will cost a ton of money to subvert. Perfect Cheesy
9/14   8:59 pm  <eth2>      does that have any technical implication on how transactions are processed and blocks?
9/14   8:59 pm  <eth2>      from a pool standpoint
9/14   8:59 pm  <evan82>  nope.
9/14   8:59 pm  <evan82>  It's not even a hard fork
[...]
9/14   9:25 pm  <moli>       interesting.. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4942/what-is-a-finney-attack
9/14   9:27 pm  <evan82>  It could possibly stop a finney attack. It's funny you post that, it's what I'm thinking about righ now
9/14   9:27 pm  <evan82>  right*
9/14   9:28 pm  <evan82>  It can definitely stop all other double spends, but finney attacks require the client to reject blocks.

OMG insanely awesome .......holy grail here we come Smiley
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9/14   8:51 pm  <evan82>  I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions. I know how to do it...
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  It'll be compatible with Darksend too. So we'll have anonymous instant transactions.
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  Oh and there will be no bloat, that is the problem with POS. I bet we can get a confirmation within 10-20 seconds in most cases.
9/14   8:52 pm  <evan82>  It also fixes the finney attack, which is another huge problem for bitcoin
9/14   8:56 pm  <eth2>      =) thats some good news
9/14   8:56 pm  <eth2>      lemme know when you need testers
9/14   8:57 pm  <evan82>  Yeah, I'm obviously pretty excited about it. I just had a eureka moment
9/14   8:58 pm  <evan82>  It's simple, elegant, instant and will cost a ton of money to subvert. Perfect Cheesy
9/14   8:59 pm  <eth2>      does that have any technical implication on how transactions are processed and blocks?
9/14   8:59 pm  <eth2>      from a pool standpoint
9/14   8:59 pm  <evan82>  nope.
9/14   8:59 pm  <evan82>  It's not even a hard fork
[...]
9/14   9:25 pm  <moli>       interesting.. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4942/what-is-a-finney-attack
9/14   9:27 pm  <evan82>  It could possibly stop a finney attack. It's funny you post that, it's what I'm thinking about righ now
9/14   9:27 pm  <evan82>  right*
9/14   9:28 pm  <evan82>  It can definitely stop all other double spends, but finney attacks require the client to reject blocks.

I am so glad that Darkcoin is always making so many progresses. Every time I come to this thread there's a new reason for me to feel proud about my decision to be part of the Darkcoin Community.

Congratulations!
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calculations?

Lulz !?!?

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September 15, 2014, 06:17:26 AM
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Woah! 15 second blocks mean that instead of waiting 1-2 hours to get all of your coins anonymized you are looking at 5-10 minutes.

This could be Massive.

Edit: It is a little early to start the coin name flamewar ehem... debate. Let's wait and see exactly what is possible and exactly what the coin becomes first.

This is hypothetical but - if that was true

IF we had 15 sec's block times....
That would mean that the coins per block would need to be changed.

5DRK / 2.5mins = 2DRK/min
2DRK/min / 60sec = 0.03333333DRK/sec
0.03333333DRK/sec * 15sec = 0.5DRK per Block

6DRK / 2.5mins = 2.4DRK/min
2.4DRK/min / 60sec = 0.04DRK/sec
0.04DRK/sec * 15sec = 0.6DRK per Block

7DRK = 0.7DRK per Block
8DRK = 0.8DRK per Block

and so on........

Like I said, This is hypothetical - but I'm sure Evan has a better plan then this :-) because he said NO BLOAT...


Unless he's gonna have something like mini-blocks within the block it's self - who knows??? LOL MasterBlocks

I should stop - lol

Well he said no hardfork and changing the subsidy is the very definition of an action that requires a hardfork.  Now mini-blocks, hmmm... maybe it is something along those lines. 
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