[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[Kooream]

Dear NEM community,

I have finished thread 1 about duplicated hashes and I would like to ask you to check it out. If you find your username on the list try to prove your ownership how utopian mentioned above. You can also check who used your hash/tx ID.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdFFvQ0pLRmNsbWM5ekNxY3lmcHdWa1E#gid=0

Hi Kooream,

Great work man, respect!

I saw my name on the list for a duplicate hash and my brothers account, Flepper, (paid by me) marked as possible fraudster.
In the other thread I explained this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.msg5032852#msg5032852
Utopianfuture already told me to wait, but is that still the case?

Do you want me to sent another small payment to prove these are mine?.

Mike

Hi Mike

I believe those hashes belong to you but to avoid any misunderstanding please send a small amount and make a public post in NEM stake complaint thread.

hi kooream,

I have already mentioned i have posted the same hash twice by mistake and have asked to remove one, a long time ago.

I have seen and removed your name from the hash check sheet.

[heyu]

Fair distribution is a great idea.
I was talk about this idea back the time in Dec on NXT official forum "trading section".
Since NXT is so easy to be copied after code release. and with a fair distribution system. someone could easily kill NXT.
I guessing NXT finally realize the problem and decide to copy themself in early stage (relaunch in fact) . i think this is smart move.

i even forgot my ID on NXT forum because i give it up and sell all of my NXT after it reach 3000 point. but now i come back to show my welcome to this new project.

I had an old bitcointalk account .but sadly i forgot the password and the email address is a mess becuase i dont want any juck mail.

so . i registered this new account today.

My name is tony, i am Chinese. but live in Europe.

I will sent my 0.075 btc very soon.

best wishes

[gifex]

Hello utopian, i have just see i am on this list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdFFvQ0pLRmNsbWM5ekNxY3lmcHdWa1E&richtext=true#gid=0

PATANY   e50ed66fae8f5fa6260d06bfad7500411aa52e326864d9d632aae8ee2f9ba2eb   1   duplicated hash   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4806043#msg4806043

gifex   e50ed66fae8f5fa6260d06bfad7500411aa52e326864d9d632aae8ee2f9ba2eb   1   duplicated hash   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4806668#msg4806668

but i am not duplicate hashes, this is my wallet 1HspBDAi3xnQb8P4ZrfRupzZr95n4s6PpK i cann conrifm you this
i have maked my payment and i am going away walk the dog and after when i am back home i have posted in theard about my payment, and this scammer PATANY have saw on blockchain.info what the transactioin are maked but nobody postet about this.

please understand me, 1HspBDAi3xnQb8P4ZrfRupzZr95n4s6PpK is my wallet and i can confirm this.

[xtester]

some updates:

1. My last ad in Doge subreddit is from 2/15 (today) to 2/16. I want people there to see our development plan not the bunch of envy comments so go there and upvote my development plan comments http://www.reddit.com/comments/1wq6wj/envy_no_more_the_first_egalitarian_coin_join_the/?sort=new . Now despite of all "envy" and" hate" comments, we have close to 2000 click-though from Doge-Reddit. It is getting attention

2. Koream has checked thoroughly thread 1 for duplicate hashes https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhnotCbeR7nrdDlfanJzQS1lQkVGT1J2ZktWNmVCX2c&usp=sharing#gid=15
If you are not qualified in the stakeholder list (no Y next to your account) and your account is in duplicate hash thread, you will need to prove that you own the sending account by sending a very small amount to NEM address and let us know the transaction ID.
As long as your accounts have a "Y" then you are fine.

3. News but not sure good or bad. Before I have a chance to buy them, Neweconomymovement.com and Neweconomymovement.org have been taken by someone else, probably a NEM stakeholder I will have Nemcoin.info up in a few days for a preview.

Did my part for #1.

Keep up the good work for #2 and #3.

[sirnoah]

I read the instruction how to pay by PayPal but my PayPal is asking for the PayPal email address, anyone here can assist me please?

I will ask my uncle to pay for me on this as I dont have a credit card yet.

Thanks guys!

[Chris001]

I read the instruction how to pay by PayPal but my PayPal is asking for the PayPal email address, anyone here can assist me please?

I will ask my uncle to pay for me on this as I dont have a credit card yet.

Thanks guys!

It is asking you for the email address you used to set up your paypal account

[NEMoon]

So the 90th page will be the last! Great news.

[j23a]

I read the instruction how to pay by PayPal but my PayPal is asking for the PayPal email address, anyone here can assist me please?

I will ask my uncle to pay for me on this as I dont have a credit card yet.

Thanks guys!

Your PayPal must be link to a personal email, and when you send money you must send it to the email of the person who's receiving. You have to get that email from Utopianfuture. You have to PM him I guess.

Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT_svsB-MDU

[yoyomax]

Hi, this is Jean.  My best friend Losy text me this "promising opportunity". love NEM. Thanks to let me on boat. i will spread my good word

[sirnoah]

thank you, yes I have PM'd UtopianFuture, now waiting for his reply.

Thank you very much

Hi, this is Jean.  My best friend Losy text me this "promising opportunity". love NEM. Thanks to let me on boat. i will spread my good word

[the_coldplay]

I have a master degree in economics. Compared to lotteries, i think this investment is much smart. I will sent 0.075 btc and see what happens.

[hamiltino]

I have a master degree in economics. Compared to lotteries, i think this investment is much smart. I will sent 0.075 btc and see what happens.

you don't need a master degree to figure that lol 

[sirnoah]

who is UtopianFuture1 vs UtopianFuture (ORIGINAL) ?

Please be CAREFUL !!! the BTC address is completely different!!!

[erkki12]

who is UtopianFuture1 vs UtopianFuture (ORIGINAL) ?

Please be CAREFUL !!! the BTC address is completely different!!!

Utopianfuture1 is a scammer, do not send him anything!

Utopianfuture is the founder of NEM and it is safe to send him your BTC.

[patmast3r]

who is UtopianFuture1 vs UtopianFuture (ORIGINAL) ?

Please be CAREFUL !!! the BTC address is completely different!!!

Utopianfuture1 is a scammer, do not send him anything!

Utopianfuture is the founder of NEM and it is safe to send him your BTC.

That sob is still continuing. I've reported the thread and it's locked but appearantly he can still post and is now handling everything via pm. Freaking lowlife.

[mikesbmw]

Dear NEM community,

I have finished thread 1 about duplicated hashes and I would like to ask you to check it out. If you find your username on the list try to prove your ownership how utopian mentioned above. You can also check who used your hash/tx ID.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgHJzpkvTvCxdFFvQ0pLRmNsbWM5ekNxY3lmcHdWa1E#gid=0

Hi Kooream,

Great work man, respect!

I saw my name on the list for a duplicate hash and my brothers account, Flepper, (paid by me) marked as possible fraudster.
In the other thread I explained this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.msg5032852#msg5032852
Utopianfuture already told me to wait, but is that still the case?

Do you want me to sent another small payment to prove these are mine?.

Mike

Hi Mike

I believe those hashes belong to you but to avoid any misunderstanding please send a small amount and make a public post in NEM stake complaint thread.

I've made another small payment and posted in the other thread.

Regards,

Mike

[andme]

POS / PON or POI forging will be use? I prefer POS / PON. But perhaps there are more arguments for POI ?

[utopianfuture]

POS / PON or POI forging will be use? I prefer POS / PON. But perhaps there are more arguments for POI ?

Our new P-O-I is a new innovative way of forging which I believe will make NEM a more sustainable system. Makoto is writing the white paper and when all the theoretical aspects are considered we will implement it in the core codes.

[upekha]

POS / PON or POI forging will be use? I prefer POS / PON. But perhaps there are more arguments for POI ?

I think this is one of the most important questions, that will heavily influence the succes of NEM.

One of the biggest long-term problems of NXT is in my opinion, the current forging system.
It supports hoarding coins but gives no incentive to actually USE the currency.
And as we can see, many stakeholders are just sitting on huge sums, waiting to forge some more. (http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=34)

I always hoped, cryptocurrency will solve the problem of the ongoing redistribution in favour of the rich.
But greed always finds a backdoor, somewhere.

NEM wants to be fair, so this is our chance.

I dont quite understand the concept of Proof of Importance, so maybe someone can explain this in more detail or with a good similie.
In my opinion NEM has to give two kinds of incentive:

- 1st: to buy into the coin as an long-term investment
- 2nd: to actually use NEM as a currency

(when I think of this, it seems, that bitcoin solves this quite well:
1st: it is rare & limited-> deflation
2nd: low transaction fees )

So how can we improve over NXT and design a currency, where people feel good when they hold and feel good when they spend?

[erkki12]

POS / PON or POI forging will be use? I prefer POS / PON. But perhaps there are more arguments for POI ?

Our new P-O-I is a new innovative way of forging which I believe will make NEM a more sustainable system. Makoto is writing the white paper and when all the theoretical aspects are considered we will implement it in the core codes.

Would it be possible to implement a combination of POS, PON and POI? I think it would make the system really stable, because POS would give the incentive to invest in the currency, PON would encourage to support the network and POI would encourage to use the currency!