[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[malekbaba]

Dear
buy and sell at your own risk and before you proceed read the market and do analysis. Do not hurry to take decision. Never listen to the troll box in exchanges

[Mrpumperitis]

suits up peeps...get ready for take off  

fun fact...
every BTC holder + vc investors, for past few years have been advised to hold ETH as a hedge....

[vapourminer]

ok heres the deal. im building a VR box. choice seems to be between nvidia 980ti or amd r9 290. but if there is a better card im listening

look the answer is in this thread but honestly im pulling the trigger tomorrow.. so..

edumacate me please i dont care if eth tanks as i get a VR card out of it heh

[Mrpumperitis]

r9 290

[vapourminer]

thanks for el fasto answer

i can have the 290 on its way and here by next weekend

any other want to chine in?

[kkraus69]

Here is another mining question. Does anyone have experience mining Ethereum with Radeon 6970 2Gb videocards? I am currently mostly mining with R9 280X and 7950 cards. I have plenty of the other hardware needed and only need video cards. If I can mine with 6950 and 6970 cards for the next few months before 2Gb is too small for the DAG then it should be profitable.

If anyone is mining with these cards, what is the hashrate?

Thanks.

[vapourminer]

thanks for el fasto answer

i can have the 290 on its way and here by next weekend

any other want to chine in?

heres another followup question

r9 390 is better yes?

[kkraus69]

@vopourminer, how many 290 cards are you able to get and what are they costing you? My 290 hashes at about 24.5 and my 280X's at 21.5. In my area the 280X costs about $200 and the 290 about $300 used making the 280X pay itself of faster. Canadian $

I haven't used any 390 cards but I think they are similar to the 290. Now the question for you is if you want new or used.

[Omega.SportSciencie]

I don't think it's on a bubble but just the correct price it should have...

[vapourminer]

@vopourminer, how many 290 cards are you able to get and what are they costing you? My 290 hashes at about 23.5 and my 289X's at 21.5. In my area the 280X costs about $200 and the 290 about $300 making the 280X pay itself of faster. Canadian $

dunno yet. newegg/amazon is my goto place

now looking at 380Xs

$235ish

[wakhidNkcom]

@vopourminer, how many 290 cards are you able to get and what are they costing you? My 290 hashes at about 23.5 and my 289X's at 21.5. In my area the 280X costs about $200 and the 290 about $300 making the 280X pay itself of faster. Canadian $

dunno yet. newegg/amazon is my goto place

now looking at 380Xs

$235ish

I have two. I like 380x very much better then 280x.

[Mrpumperitis]

I don't think it's on a bubble but just the correct price it should have...

u right about price correction and its not on a bubble ....yet,
anyone getting buy orders filled now should be grateful
over next 7 days i bet the next big upwards bubble forms and is bigger than all previous so far  

[kkraus69]

Yes, let's hope so about the price correction!
I need to sell some to get some new 380X 4Gb cards.
 

[bardacuda]

ok heres the deal. im building a VR box. choice seems to be between nvidia 980ti or amd r9 290. but if there is a better card im listening

look the answer is in this thread but honestly im pulling the trigger tomorrow.. so..

edumacate me please i dont care if eth tanks as i get a VR card out of it heh

Here is a relevant link for how games might run using DX12 in the future on various cards. Emphasis on might because this is the only game so far to be implemented properly in DX12.

http://anandtech.com/show/10067/ashes-of-the-singularity-revisited-beta/5

Here is a list of current and upcoming games that will implement DX12:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support

Here is a chart with some data on hash rates of various cards when mining Ethereum:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s5SaThZ5eOSAiVMpmuIjz-_YjIlcxttAzKuWKAbczds/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

These lists are by no means exhaustive and should all be taken with a grain of salt, but hopefully this helps you with your decision.

Basically the 980ti is much much better at gaming in DX11. The cards could be more closely matched when it comes to DX12 games. The AMD cards are better at mining. The DX12 and mining performance has to do with the superior asynchronous compute performance inherent in the architecture. The AMD cards are also less expensive.

The upcoming nVidia Pascal and AMD Polaris graphics cards could change this but if you're buying tomorrow I guess that doesn't factor in.

EDIT: Definitely take those hash rates with a grain of salt. My 290 gets roughly 29 MH/s and my 270 gets 16 MH/s.

[kkraus69]

I think the sweet spots for me would be to use 280X cards when buying used (still wondering about 6950/ 70 2Gb cards) and the 370 cards when buying new. This takes into account that I have all the other parts needed. I will have to find some more power supplies soon.

edit: Nice chart by the way. Thanks

[bardacuda]

Oh one other thing about the 290 and 290x cards...do not get ones with reference coolers unless you are planning to waterblock them anyway. They are very power hungry and hot and the reference cooler is just horribly inadequate for them. The blower fan gets extrememly loud at over 40%, but you would need to run it at very high speeds to keep it cool under load unless you undervolted them considerably.

[vapourminer]

@vopourminer, how many 290 cards are you able to get and what are they costing you? My 290 hashes at about 23.5 and my 289X's at 21.5. In my area the 280X costs about $200 and the 290 about $300 making the 280X pay itself of faster. Canadian $

dunno yet. newegg/amazon is my goto place

now looking at 380Xs

$235ish

I have two. I like 380x very much better then 280x.

thankyou all

very good info, this is just the fastest to quote, i have read with great interest the other posts below this one but this specifically  lists the 380X from one who has two. good good from VR standpoint. one (possibaly two) will be mine soon.

because ya know if one is good, two must be better lulz

[andyatcrux]

thanks for el fasto answer

i can have the 290 on its way and here by next weekend

any other want to chine in?

heres another followup question

r9 390 is better yes?

Yes. My Gigabyte 390 gets 25.5 MH/s without overclocking. Around 29 overclocked. It seems like a slight improvement over the 290 and runs a helluva lot cooler.

[Fern]

Pumperitis, OR we are somewhere between 'Return to normal' and 'Fear'. If BTC takes off it will be interesting to see if ETH follows or outperforms. Perhaps there will be an initial sell-off and then it will turn around with a vengeance.

The other issue is that China has been very quiet, if the usual whales get involved plus newcomers due to capital control then things could get very interesting.

[bardacuda]

thankyou all

very good info, this is just the fastest to quote, i have read with great interest the other posts below this one but this specifically  lists the 380X from one who has two. good good from VR standpoint. one (possibaly two) will be mine soon.

because ya know if one is good, two must be better lulz

Generally it is better to have a single more powerful card than to have two weaker cards in crossfire/sli when it comes to game performance (although DX12 and Vulkan may change that). That said, two 380Xs in crossfire are comparable in performance to a single 980ti or fury x, and are also cheaper.