[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[polokiost]

why ddos only attack on polo? Maybe somebody dont like polo 

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[HYPERfuture]

why ddos only attack on polo? Maybe somebody dont like polo 

I would say it is some of the Bitcoin old guard trying to stop the growth of ETH. Personally I believe it is most likely in a bubble and will pop anyway.

Things are getting really crazy!

[ImI]

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.

You know its not like the price per Gas couldnt be adapted and VB already confirmed this.

[zmhaha]

Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.

What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.

Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.

Calling Ethereum a bubble is like calling Apple a bubble.

What's your definition of a bubble?

For a crypto, when it is being hyped in the media, and on the forums, and when it goes up 10x or more in a short period of time. And when most people cannot see it is a bubble 

Not once has a crypto stabilized at the peak price.

Sure ETH will find a new floor (which I believe will be around 0.01 BTC), but I would be really surprised if it goes over 2 Billion market cap and beyond.

I don't understand how all of you guys don't get it that the Ethereum rise is mostly fueled by Bitcoin shooting itself in the foot by the block size debate and politics surrounding it. Yes, Homestead release and development of the Ethereum and its features is also responsible for the rise, but not as much as my previous conclusion.

If you look at the things from this perspective, there is no way that this is a bubble. OK, of course there is some speculation, there always is. But is this rise a complete bubble, I don't think it is. Now, if die hard bitcoiners, especially on this forum, are refusing to see the forest from the trees and admit that things in Bitcoin land are far from being rose, that's their problem. If these die hard bitcoiners are refusing to believe that many crypto enthusiasts are diversifying their investment out there, just in case, that's really only their problem!

Huge volumes are justifying my claims from above. There is a real interest in Ethereum. You just don't fake 100,000+ BTCs volumes, I mean c'mon.

[HYPERfuture]

Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.

What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.

Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.

Calling Ethereum a bubble is like calling Apple a bubble.

What's your definition of a bubble?

For a crypto, when it is being hyped in the media, and on the forums, and when it goes up 10x or more in a short period of time. And when most people cannot see it is a bubble 

Not once has a crypto stabilized at the peak price.

Sure ETH will find a new floor (which I believe will be around 0.01 BTC), but I would be really surprised if it goes over 2 Billion market cap and beyond.

I don't understand how all of you guys don't get it that the Ethereum rise is mostly fueled by Bitcoin shooting itself in the foot by the block size debate and politics surrounding it. Yes, Homestead release and development of the Ethereum and its features is also responsible for the rise, but not as much as my previous conclusion.

If you look at the things from this perspective, there is no way that this is a bubble. OK, of course there is some speculation, there always is. But is this rise a complete bubble, I don't think it is. Now, if die hard bitcoiners, especially on this forum, are refusing to see the forest from the trees and admit that things in Bitcoin land are far from being rose, that's their problem. If these die hard bitcoiners are refusing to believe that many crypto enthusiasts are diversifying their investment out there, just in case, that's really only their problem!

Huge volumes are justifying my claims from above. There is a real interest in Ethereum. You just don't fake 100,000+ BTCs volumes, I mean c'mon.

Bitcoin has its bubbles too I'm not saying that ETH is "better" or "worse" than BTC.

[andulolika]

Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.

What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.

Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.

Calling Ethereum a bubble is like calling Apple a bubble.

What's your definition of a bubble?

For a crypto, when it is being hyped in the media, and on the forums, and when it goes up 10x or more in a short period of time. And when most people cannot see it is a bubble  

Not once has a crypto stabilized at the peak price.

Sure ETH will find a new floor (which I believe will be around 0.01 BTC), but I would be really surprised if it goes over 2 Billion market cap and beyond.

I don't understand how all of you guys don't get it that the Ethereum rise is mostly fueled by Bitcoin shooting itself in the foot by the block size debate and politics surrounding it. Yes, Homestead release and development of the Ethereum and its features is also responsible for the rise, but not as much as my previous conclusion.

If you look at the things from this perspective, there is no way that this is a bubble. OK, of course there is some speculation, there always is. But is this rise a complete bubble, I don't think it is. Now, if die hard bitcoiners, especially on this forum, are refusing to see the forest from the trees and admit that things in Bitcoin land are far from being rose, that's their problem. If these die hard bitcoiners are refusing to believe that many crypto enthusiasts are diversifying their investment out there, just in case, that's really only their problem!

Huge volumes are justifying my claims from above. There is a real interest in Ethereum. You just don't fake 100,000+ BTCs volumes, I mean c'mon.

You have half my point, instead of BITCOIN focusing itself on fixing some fucking block size that THERE IS NO NEED FOR YET, it could start adding features or things that are actually usefull, i believe altcoins should be like little tests to know what btc needa and itnto get implemented.
Edit: yes you just fake 100k btc volume, i seen it in other coins, there is a loss but clearly there is way more profit there.

[polokiost]

the founders are holding more than 90% eth in the network, so if you expected so much to the growth of eth, you will be a prey tasty for the holders  

[mickiya]

the founders are holding more than 90% eth in the network, so if you expected so much to the growth of eth, you will be a prey tasty for the holders  

No. I think they sold most of the coins during the early days. The volume of Ethereum trading was quite big then.

[Master_dandosha]

the founders are holding more than 90% eth in the network, so if you expected so much to the growth of eth, you will be a prey tasty for the holders 

No. I think they sold most of the coins during the early days. The volume of Ethereum trading was quite big then.

Time will tell . i think eth is heading now to 0.04 then you will see unexpected trade at the range 0.031-0.04

[bitbitch]

so has Bitfinex opened ETH trading?

[zmhaha]

the founders are holding more than 90% eth in the network,

Where did you get this nonsense from mate?

[MaGNeT]

so has Bitfinex opened ETH trading?

Well, how about take a look instead of asking?

[bitbitch]

so has Bitfinex opened ETH trading?

Well, how about take a look instead of asking?

where is the price surge from China? i'm not seeing it.

[MaGNeT]

so has Bitfinex opened ETH trading?

Well, how about take a look instead of asking?

where is the price surge from China? i'm not seeing it.

What is your question? Bitfinex? China?

[Charloz24]

so has Bitfinex opened ETH trading?

Yes it's live and working now.

[synthgauge]

so has Bitfinex opened ETH trading?

Well, how about take a look instead of asking?

where is the price surge from China? i'm not seeing it.

What is your question? Bitfinex? China?

Would u opt out of ur eth stake in a favour to being able to fart in public place?

[dunfida]

Did CLAM and Monero really had more than 100K BTC daily volume before? I really did not know this. That will be really a surprise to me.

No they didnt, but no one needed to fake volume.

Edit: i think that volume is being clearly faked , i don think the new fees of poloniex are coincidence.

If an exchange charges a fee, the volumes there might not be fake as the share holds will want to see the profit due to the volumes.

[andulolika]

Did CLAM and Monero really had more than 100K BTC daily volume before? I really did not know this. That will be really a surprise to me.

No they didnt, but no one needed to fake volume.

Edit: i think that volume is being clearly faked , i don think the new fees of poloniex are coincidence.

If an exchange charges a fee, the volumes there might not be fake as the share holds will want to see the profit due to the volumes.

With the volume of the pump and the holdings of the pumpers im pretty sure a fee is the last thing they give a fux about,.

[ocminer]

Make sure you are updated to 1.3.5 - homestead Block soon

[socks435]

Hi guys can you share how to mine ether? using usb asic miner? or wthout using a asic?
I want to earn ether by mining.. i hope someone can share how to mine ether..