[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[hund]

Number of retweets and likes on these kind of tweets talk their very own languange

[cohnhead]

where is the etc thread?

[redsn0w]

where is the etc thread?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0

[Mrpumperitis]

Yes but this thread is about the immutable chain which is ETC

Vitaliks team wanted to take Ethereum in a different direction than you. They got the miners, users and exchanges to follow them. So you created an alt.

lol
How do I create something that is already there?
How do I create something that is already present and I guard it from being killed?

Hi becoin

Have you bought some ETC now?

Of course. It'd be a sin to miss this huge opportunity and not buy the original ETH at such a wild discount.

Have you bought non-forked ETH as well?

lol wow you PAID FOR ETC LOLOLOLOL... wow m8 ....
im sure fatman already said he got them for free...just like most of us here. 

[Mrpumperitis]

So etc trolls....heres when the fun begins...

How long will you bag hold before you dump your dying shitcoin? ( no pressure on us to sell as we got em free    only those that paid are under pressure )
Those mining etc...how long will you mine an unprofitable coin...
This is like stabbing yourselfs and slowly killing yourself to prove a point...how long can you last lol
Right now there is no profit in mining etc...the race is on..either you guys buy up or your finished....FACT

[hund]

last chance to board the bus. Don't be left behind. 

[cohnhead]

last chance to board the bus. Don't be left behind. 

loosing respect for that guy...
he kind of like fox news with cointelegraph (that is his organization isn't it)
all ive been seeing past two days are articles about etc...90% from them.
talk about stirring the pot (#rogerailesofcrypto lol)

[Mrpumperitis]

last chance to board the bus. Don't be left behind.  

loosing respect for that guy...
he kind of like fox news with cointelegraph (that is his organization isn't it)
all ive been seeing past two days are articles about etc...90% from them.
talk about stirring the pot (#rogerailesofcrypto lol)

lol he paid for etc lol
These are the same guys that wouldnt pay for ETH when it was that price 7months ago, but now pay it for a dying noob trap coin...sad times for these guys are they are all being exposed and damaging the whole crypto scene in general.

He was trolling  for ETH use case last week...i guess he thinks etc is more useful ...lolol idiot is ruining the little rep he had

[kooke]

Who is barry silbert???

[Mrpumperitis]

Who is barry silbert???

etc bagholder 

[cohnhead]

Who is barry silbert???

etc bagholder 

first good laugh ive had this hour 

[cjmoles]

Okay.  Due to all the recent drama I have not had time to keep up with all the new developments as I also have another life.  I do have a simple question and would very much appreciate a simple response.  Is there anything I should do to insure that my client is on the right fork?  I am running the Eth Client with Mist but I haven't opened them since this debacle began.

[Bamsed]

Okay.  Due to all the recent drama I have not had time to keep up with all the new developments as I also have another life.  I do have a simple question and would very much appreciate a simple response.  Is there anything I should do to insure that my client is on the right fork?  I am running the Eth Client with Mist but I haven't opened them since this debacle began.

If you use go,

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases

Geth 1.4.10 "Return of the ETH" is the go-ethereum team's DAO hard-fork implementation. It enables anyone to choose whether they would like to support the DAO hard-fork or oppose it, and take them to their blockchain of choice.

To support the DAO hard-fork, start Geth with --support-dao-fork
To oppose the DAO hard-fork, start Geth with --oppose-dao-fork

[suchmoon]

Okay.  Due to all the recent drama I have not had time to keep up with all the new developments as I also have another life.  I do have a simple question and would very much appreciate a simple response.  Is there anything I should do to insure that my client is on the right fork?  I am running the Eth Client with Mist but I haven't opened them since this debacle began.

If you install latest Mist (0.8.1 I think) you will be asked a question when you start it. Read carefully, answer appropriately and you'll be syncing to the chain that you choose.

Edit: once you do that you should double check the block count against a block explorer or a pool.

[cjmoles]

Okay.  Due to all the recent drama I have not had time to keep up with all the new developments as I also have another life.  I do have a simple question and would very much appreciate a simple response.  Is there anything I should do to insure that my client is on the right fork?  I am running the Eth Client with Mist but I haven't opened them since this debacle began.

If you use go,

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases

Geth 1.4.10 "Return of the ETH" is the go-ethereum team's DAO hard-fork implementation. It enables anyone to choose whether they would like to support the DAO hard-fork or oppose it, and take them to their blockchain of choice.

To support the DAO hard-fork, start Geth with --support-dao-fork
To oppose the DAO hard-fork, start Geth with --oppose-dao-fork

Is there a similar instance for the Eth client as opposed to the Geth client?

[Mrpumperitis]

https://medium.com/the-coinbase-blog/ethereum-is-the-forefront-of-digital-currency-5300298f6c75#.x1bcdxj9v
Ethereum is the Forefront of Digital Currency
We have sat here for the last 3 years seeing only infrastructure apps like wallets and exchanges emerge on top of Bitcoin. Why is that?
My theory has been that the scripting language in Bitcoin — the piece of every Bitcoin transaction that lets you run a little software program along with it — is too restrictive.
Enter Ethereum....
What is very real, though, is the possibility that Ethereum blows past Bitcoin entirely.


BUY OR CRY....
Watch trolls lose $ as etc takes most of their btc and ETH pumps costing them even more as they panic buy back in. 

[suchmoon]

Is there a similar instance for the Eth client as opposed to the Geth client?

AFAIK the C++ version of eth doesn't support the hardfork so you can run the old version and use it with ETC but not with ETH.

[Perryl]

The choice given was fork or not. A majority of the aforementioned groups chose the proposed HF, including F2Pool. I guess they found that they had to, as they themselves suggested. I am sure there are people who disagree with how "democratic" it was, but the existence of Ethereum Classic shows that there was a choice. And, ironically, they're the ones who have decided not to respect this choice.

You're contradicting yourself here. If there is a choice, and some choose one way and others choose another way - which part of this you're having a problem with?

That's how crypto forks work. Even a single dissenter with a CPU miner could keep the original chain alive. Should have thought about that BEFORE supporting a hard fork instead of expecting "respect" after the fact.

No, there is no contradiction. The community as a whole chose the proposed HF. That does not mean that every single person chose or was in favor of the HF. That isn't a requirement either. But if you're going to remain in the community you have to at least act as if you've accepted the decision.

What ETC has done is to ignore this. They've decided to not respect the choice of the community and create an altcoin. Which is fine in crypto. But what isn't fine is them running around spamming Ethereum threads with misinformation about Ethereum and their new altcoin.

Otoh it does show their lack of seriousness and will accelerate their decline into insignificance.

If you have a problem with someone spamming you should report it to moderators.

Part of the debate is what is Ethereum. It would be sort of weird to report it to the mods before these questions are laid to rest, or at least discussed.

I get the appeal to emotion. You're doing the same thing though. "misinformation", "altcoin", etc. The fact is - some people clicked "No" in Mist and are now on a different chain. Calling it names isn't any more serious than anyone else spamming this thread.

Do you disagree that there are two chains and two coins now? If so, we need to contact all these exchanges and get them to withdraw the latest addition. And they both are altcoins, btw. Regardless of your emotional life.

I'm still failing to understand what exactly is the issue here for the pro-forkers. Everything seems to be happening EXACTLY as it was supposed to happen after a hard fork. Misplaced expectations perhaps?

People disagree. The world is not all rainbows and unicorns.

The choice given was fork or not. A majority of the aforementioned groups chose the proposed HF, including F2Pool. I guess they found that they had to, as they themselves suggested. I am sure there are people who disagree with how "democratic" it was, but the existence of Ethereum Classic shows that there was a choice. And, ironically, they're the ones who have decided not to respect this choice.

You're contradicting yourself here. If there is a choice, and some choose one way and others choose another way - which part of this you're having a problem with?

That's how crypto forks work. Even a single dissenter with a CPU miner could keep the original chain alive. Should have thought about that BEFORE supporting a hard fork instead of expecting "respect" after the fact.

No, there is no contradiction. The community as a whole chose the proposed HF. That does not mean that every single person chose or was in favor of the HF. That isn't a requirement either. But if you're going to remain in the community you have to at least act as if you've accepted the decision.

What ETC has done is to ignore this. They've decided to not respect the choice of the community and create an altcoin. Which is fine in crypto. But what isn't fine is them running around spamming Ethereum threads with misinformation about Ethereum and their new altcoin.

Otoh it does show their lack of seriousness and will accelerate their decline into insignificance.

The community as a whole, except for all those people that were opposed to it.

But fuck them, right?

Welcome to the real world, buddy!

The real world you created by forcing "consensus" with the illusion of democracy. In the real world those votes get thrown out. Look what has happened here.

[Mrpumperitis]

The voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
This is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )
also fake volume and fake walls wont work for long...the price of etc MUST GO UP OR ELSE IT DIES...at current price miners are at a loss.

Heres the catch though...if it goes up in price you make us richer 

[Perryl]

the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )

Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?