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Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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You are now, posting stuff on politics on crypto currency ANN.
What is up with you?
Feel free to report my post. I was just trying to point out that you can't have a default option (other than "not voted") in a yes/no poll UNLESS you want to skew the result. You're grasping at straws my friend. Of course the turnout in the Ethereum fork vote was abysmal, everybody knows that. And the vote turned out to useless because the real decision on which fork to stay with was made simply by using one or the other version of software, which is how blockchain is supposed to work. There is something wrong with you? This what the mining pools Dwarfpool and Ethermine setup for the Fork Vote, a default setting of Not Voted. As Alex Van De Sande reddit annoucement makes clear, without the "White Hats" the thief would have taken all 12 million ETC coins in "The DAO" after the Fork. why wasnt the theft reported ? like other cryptobiz do if hacked ? why play cop themselfts ?
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very good questions. did he come forwart and answer ?
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[lot of BS questions omitted]
He did not come "forwart" despite your nice increasing font size? Unbelievable!BTW: You better should not run code which was written by a "wretched hive of scum and villany". Moral grounds and so on, you know?
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What's your take on the Ethereum Zcash privacy add-on?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4wamhp/raiden_network_proof_of_concept_is_now_live_huge/?st=iripkdqx&sh=7e92a376https://github.com/raiden-network/raiden/wiki/Raiden-PoChttp://raiden.network/ wow Payment-Channel Network for EthereumRaiden is a technology that leverages off-chain state networks to extend Ethereum with some nice properties for asset transfers: Scalable: it scales linearly with the number of participants (1,000,000+ transfers per second possible) Fast: Transfers are confirmed and final within the fraction of a second Confidential: Single transfers don’t show up in the global shared ledger Interoperable: Works with any token that follows Ethereum’s standardized token API Low Fees: Transaction fees can be 7 orders of magnitude lower than on the blockchain Micro-payments: Low transaction fees allow to efficiently transfer tiny values The technology enabling this is similar to the proposed Bitcoin Lightning Network. The basic idea is to switch from a model where all transactions hit the shared ledger on the blockchain (which is the bottleneck) to a model where users can privately exchange messages which sign the transfer of value. Raiden uses a network of p2p payment channels and deposits in Ethereum to preserve the guarantees expected from a blockchain system. Raiden is implemented as an extension to Ethereum. A Raiden node runs alongside an Ethereum node and communicates with other Raiden nodes to facilitate transfers and with the Ethereum blockchain to manage deposits. It offers a simple API which makes it easy to use Raiden in DApps. Applications Micropayments for content distribution: Alternative to Paywalls, Ads and Subscriptions. (Figure a decentralized youtube where the creators of a video are paid for every second watched) Decentralized M2M markets: especially in IoT where tiny chunks of bandwidth, storage, cpu time, energy, sensor data, etc. can be traded. Frictionless Token Systems: Game Tokens, Reward Tokens, Private Currencies API Access: Accessing and monetizing APIs on a per use basis is at the core of the upcoming Machine-to-Machine economy Fast Decentralized ExchangesVitalik Buterin: “State channels are an important technology that has the potential to greatly improve the scalability and privacy of many categories of blockchain applications; in conjunction with sharding and other privacy-preserving cryptographic technologies, they are an important ingredient in helping decentralized systems to achieve the properties that mainstream individual and institutional users expect and deserve.” Im sure pos also allows for Scalability and many more extra features that are not possible on pow. Hawk and ZKsnarks are just two of many... Cryptographic mixers - essentially, the ZK-SNARK verification enforces the rule that if you put one coin in you can take one coin and only one coin out, but the input-output mapping is completely hidden. Hawk - essentially, smart contracts with encrypted state, where the full power of the blockchain is still used to verify that state transitions are correct because anyone updating the state needs to include a ZK-SNARK proving that the change from the old encrypted state to the new encrypted state is a valid state transition (proving all of this without revealing what the decrypted old or new states, or the decrypted transaction data, is!). https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4v2ug3/zksnarks_zero_knowledge_proofs_now_possible_via/Hawk: The Blockchain Model of Cryptography and Privacy-Preserving Smart Contracts https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/675.pdf Raiden, Hawk and Zksnarks will become essential requirements for any crypto that intends to be used by big mainstream business and IOT ( which is the biggest use case for ETH imo ) Lol I'm sure they are waiting in suspense lol!
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-races-ahead-raidens-implementation-lightning-network/Brainbot Technologies, a blockchain development, and consulting company, just released the first implementation of the Raiden Network, which, similar to the Lightning Network, is a layer two protocol on top of Ethereum’s blockchain, significantly increasing Ethereum’s transaction capacity from the current estimated 20 transactions per second to tens of thousands.The first proof of concept version conceptually solves all aspects “and it can work on the current Ethereum blockchain as it is,” according to Heiko Hees, an Ethereum core developer and CEO of Brainbot, with a “hardened” beta version planned for winter 2016. One can have a decentralized exchange, therefore, run on the Raiden Network, or, machine to machine payments at a global scale as the network scales linearly with the number of participants. If you add another intelligent machine to the network, for example, you are also adding capacity at the same time to such extent that one might say its scalability is as good as unlimited. To prove the point, a demo of 100,000 transactions per second is planned for the end of August, turning into reality the long spoken dream of microtransactions which could replace or complement advertising and save the publishing industry. In combination with Ethereum’s plans for on-chain scalability through sharding, the Raiden Network allows ethereum’s public blockchain to handle any imaginable blockchain application, thus solving the scalability problem and shifting the ecosystem’s focus to securing digital currency and to the implementation of many new applications made possible by blockchain’s invention. So in around 3weeks we could witness something truly revolutionary for all of crypto...WOW, if this is pulled of 1ETH will be over $25 overnight and the buy pressure will be huuuuuuuuuge.
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-races-ahead-raidens-implementation-lightning-network/Brainbot Technologies, a blockchain development, and consulting company, just released the first implementation of the Raiden Network, which, similar to the Lightning Network, is a layer two protocol on top of Ethereum’s blockchain, significantly increasing Ethereum’s transaction capacity from the current estimated 20 transactions per second to tens of thousands.The first proof of concept version conceptually solves all aspects “and it can work on the current Ethereum blockchain as it is,” according to Heiko Hees, an Ethereum core developer and CEO of Brainbot, with a “hardened” beta version planned for winter 2016. One can have a decentralized exchange, therefore, run on the Raiden Network, or, machine to machine payments at a global scale as the network scales linearly with the number of participants. If you add another intelligent machine to the network, for example, you are also adding capacity at the same time to such extent that one might say its scalability is as good as unlimited. To prove the point, a demo of 100,000 transactions per second is planned for the end of August, turning into reality the long spoken dream of microtransactions which could replace or complement advertising and save the publishing industry. In combination with Ethereum’s plans for on-chain scalability through sharding, the Raiden Network allows ethereum’s public blockchain to handle any imaginable blockchain application, thus solving the scalability problem and shifting the ecosystem’s focus to securing digital currency and to the implementation of many new applications made possible by blockchain’s invention. So in around 3weeks we could witness something truly revolutionary for all of crypto...WOW, if this is pulled of 1ETH will be over $25 overnight and the buy pressure will be huuuuuuuuuge. Please don't disturb those ETC trolls running their ad hominem attacks at this ETH board.
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-races-ahead-raidens-implementation-lightning-network/Brainbot Technologies, a blockchain development, and consulting company, just released the first implementation of the Raiden Network, which, similar to the Lightning Network, is a layer two protocol on top of Ethereum’s blockchain, significantly increasing Ethereum’s transaction capacity from the current estimated 20 transactions per second to tens of thousands.The first proof of concept version conceptually solves all aspects “and it can work on the current Ethereum blockchain as it is,” according to Heiko Hees, an Ethereum core developer and CEO of Brainbot, with a “hardened” beta version planned for winter 2016. One can have a decentralized exchange, therefore, run on the Raiden Network, or, machine to machine payments at a global scale as the network scales linearly with the number of participants. If you add another intelligent machine to the network, for example, you are also adding capacity at the same time to such extent that one might say its scalability is as good as unlimited. To prove the point, a demo of 100,000 transactions per second is planned for the end of August, turning into reality the long spoken dream of microtransactions which could replace or complement advertising and save the publishing industry. In combination with Ethereum’s plans for on-chain scalability through sharding, the Raiden Network allows ethereum’s public blockchain to handle any imaginable blockchain application, thus solving the scalability problem and shifting the ecosystem’s focus to securing digital currency and to the implementation of many new applications made possible by blockchain’s invention. So in around 3weeks we could witness something truly revolutionary for all of crypto...WOW, if this is pulled of 1ETH will be over $25 overnight and the buy pressure will be huuuuuuuuuge. Please don't disturb those ETC trolls running their ad hominem attacks at this ETH board. lol Seriously this is the time to BUY OR CRY This is what ETH needs for its journey to become #1 Crypto.
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Xaurum, the gold backed crypto asset project that was first received with some skepticism from the community (mostly due to it's complex nature), has recently received a well-deserved vote of trust by investors during a Rebirth Initial Coin Offering (RICO) period, that gathered the equivalent of 851,342.36 USD. The RICO period is not only a time to gather investments but also to move from a centralized Proof of Stake cryptocurrency to a smart contract & token system built on Ethereum. hmmm intresting
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August 09, 2016, 06:41:02 AM |
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-races-ahead-raidens-implementation-lightning-network/Brainbot Technologies, a blockchain development, and consulting company, just released the first implementation of the Raiden Network, which, similar to the Lightning Network, is a layer two protocol on top of Ethereum’s blockchain, significantly increasing Ethereum’s transaction capacity from the current estimated 20 transactions per second to tens of thousands.The first proof of concept version conceptually solves all aspects “and it can work on the current Ethereum blockchain as it is,” according to Heiko Hees, an Ethereum core developer and CEO of Brainbot, with a “hardened” beta version planned for winter 2016. One can have a decentralized exchange, therefore, run on the Raiden Network, or, machine to machine payments at a global scale as the network scales linearly with the number of participants. If you add another intelligent machine to the network, for example, you are also adding capacity at the same time to such extent that one might say its scalability is as good as unlimited. To prove the point, a demo of 100,000 transactions per second is planned for the end of August, turning into reality the long spoken dream of microtransactions which could replace or complement advertising and save the publishing industry. In combination with Ethereum’s plans for on-chain scalability through sharding, the Raiden Network allows ethereum’s public blockchain to handle any imaginable blockchain application, thus solving the scalability problem and shifting the ecosystem’s focus to securing digital currency and to the implementation of many new applications made possible by blockchain’s invention. So in around 3weeks we could witness something truly revolutionary for all of crypto...WOW, if this is pulled of 1ETH will be over $25 overnight and the buy pressure will be huuuuuuuuuge. Please don't disturb those ETC trolls running their ad hominem attacks at this ETH board. lol Seriously this is the time to BUY OR CRY This is what ETH needs for its journey to become #1 Crypto. Looks like they are losing their collective mind. At [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts pages and pages are filling up with their "ETH mug shot poster". I'm sure ETC devs c/p experts will be refusing running such dirty code written by scumbags and villains
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-races-ahead-raidens-implementation-lightning-network/Brainbot Technologies, a blockchain development, and consulting company, just released the first implementation of the Raiden Network, which, similar to the Lightning Network, is a layer two protocol on top of Ethereum’s blockchain, significantly increasing Ethereum’s transaction capacity from the current estimated 20 transactions per second to tens of thousands.The first proof of concept version conceptually solves all aspects “and it can work on the current Ethereum blockchain as it is,” according to Heiko Hees, an Ethereum core developer and CEO of Brainbot, with a “hardened” beta version planned for winter 2016. One can have a decentralized exchange, therefore, run on the Raiden Network, or, machine to machine payments at a global scale as the network scales linearly with the number of participants. If you add another intelligent machine to the network, for example, you are also adding capacity at the same time to such extent that one might say its scalability is as good as unlimited. To prove the point, a demo of 100,000 transactions per second is planned for the end of August, turning into reality the long spoken dream of microtransactions which could replace or complement advertising and save the publishing industry. In combination with Ethereum’s plans for on-chain scalability through sharding, the Raiden Network allows ethereum’s public blockchain to handle any imaginable blockchain application, thus solving the scalability problem and shifting the ecosystem’s focus to securing digital currency and to the implementation of many new applications made possible by blockchain’s invention. So in around 3weeks we could witness something truly revolutionary for all of crypto...WOW, if this is pulled of 1ETH will be over $25 overnight and the buy pressure will be huuuuuuuuuge. Please don't disturb those ETC trolls running their ad hominem attacks at this ETH board. lol Seriously this is the time to BUY OR CRY This is what ETH needs for its journey to become #1 Crypto. Looks like they are losing their collective mind. At [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts pages and pages are filling up with their "ETH mug shot poster". I'm sure ETC devs c/p experts will be refusing running such dirty code written by scumbags and villains i dont get it...if they have lost money...go get a lawyer...lol
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-races-ahead-raidens-implementation-lightning-network/Brainbot Technologies, a blockchain development, and consulting company, just released the first implementation of the Raiden Network, which, similar to the Lightning Network, is a layer two protocol on top of Ethereum’s blockchain, significantly increasing Ethereum’s transaction capacity from the current estimated 20 transactions per second to tens of thousands.The first proof of concept version conceptually solves all aspects “and it can work on the current Ethereum blockchain as it is,” according to Heiko Hees, an Ethereum core developer and CEO of Brainbot, with a “hardened” beta version planned for winter 2016. One can have a decentralized exchange, therefore, run on the Raiden Network, or, machine to machine payments at a global scale as the network scales linearly with the number of participants. If you add another intelligent machine to the network, for example, you are also adding capacity at the same time to such extent that one might say its scalability is as good as unlimited. To prove the point, a demo of 100,000 transactions per second is planned for the end of August, turning into reality the long spoken dream of microtransactions which could replace or complement advertising and save the publishing industry. In combination with Ethereum’s plans for on-chain scalability through sharding, the Raiden Network allows ethereum’s public blockchain to handle any imaginable blockchain application, thus solving the scalability problem and shifting the ecosystem’s focus to securing digital currency and to the implementation of many new applications made possible by blockchain’s invention. So in around 3weeks we could witness something truly revolutionary for all of crypto...WOW, if this is pulled of 1ETH will be over $25 overnight and the buy pressure will be huuuuuuuuuge. Please don't disturb those ETC trolls running their ad hominem attacks at this ETH board. lol Seriously this is the time to BUY OR CRY This is what ETH needs for its journey to become #1 Crypto. Looks like they are losing their collective mind. At [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts pages and pages are filling up with their "ETH mug shot poster". I'm sure ETC devs c/p experts will be refusing running such dirty code written by scumbags and villains i dont get it...if they have lost money...go get a lawyer...lol I gave those ETC folks the direct phone number so they now can call Zhe German Police. But since German Police is often still running Win95 machines they'll have to wait for some years until upgrades are ready. lol
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-races-ahead-raidens-implementation-lightning-network/Brainbot Technologies, a blockchain development, and consulting company, just released the first implementation of the Raiden Network, which, similar to the Lightning Network, is a layer two protocol on top of Ethereum’s blockchain, significantly increasing Ethereum’s transaction capacity from the current estimated 20 transactions per second to tens of thousands.The first proof of concept version conceptually solves all aspects “and it can work on the current Ethereum blockchain as it is,” according to Heiko Hees, an Ethereum core developer and CEO of Brainbot, with a “hardened” beta version planned for winter 2016. One can have a decentralized exchange, therefore, run on the Raiden Network, or, machine to machine payments at a global scale as the network scales linearly with the number of participants. If you add another intelligent machine to the network, for example, you are also adding capacity at the same time to such extent that one might say its scalability is as good as unlimited. To prove the point, a demo of 100,000 transactions per second is planned for the end of August, turning into reality the long spoken dream of microtransactions which could replace or complement advertising and save the publishing industry. In combination with Ethereum’s plans for on-chain scalability through sharding, the Raiden Network allows ethereum’s public blockchain to handle any imaginable blockchain application, thus solving the scalability problem and shifting the ecosystem’s focus to securing digital currency and to the implementation of many new applications made possible by blockchain’s invention. So in around 3weeks we could witness something truly revolutionary for all of crypto...WOW, if this is pulled of 1ETH will be over $25 overnight and the buy pressure will be huuuuuuuuuge. Please don't disturb those ETC trolls running their ad hominem attacks at this ETH board. lol Seriously this is the time to BUY OR CRY This is what ETH needs for its journey to become #1 Crypto. Looks like they are losing their collective mind. At [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts pages and pages are filling up with their "ETH mug shot poster". I'm sure ETC devs c/p experts will be refusing running such dirty code written by scumbags and villains i dont get it...if they have lost money...go get a lawyer...lol I gave those ETC folks the direct phone number so they now can call Zhe German Police. But since German Police is often still running Win95 machines they'll have to wait for some years until upgrades are ready. lol lol that would be funny trying to explain this to a cop. ETH is gonna go nuts for next 3weeks and then if its pulled of and ETH shows over 100k txps we could witness a huge BTC dump as ETH becomes #1 coin for the big guys to move funds.
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So, Alex Van De Sande thinks ETC is not worth having!
Please, tell Alex Van De Sande to send over to me those worthless ETHC!He was in the first steps of the DAO hack, but not in the later stages. He has no access to the DAO ETC.
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ALEX SAIS THERE WAS A PLANED FORK Als Antwort an Charles Hoskinson alex van de sande @avsa 4. Aug. @IOHK_Charles @jessedain @VladZamfir @aantonop we already had a planned hard fork in May, I'm not sure you understand how this stuff works 0 Retweets 3 Gefällt mir IF THATS SO WHAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN PLANED IN THE FORK IN MAY? WHAT EXACTLY WAS CHANGED NOW ? WAS IT CONECTED TO THE LIQUIDATION? IF THE FORK WAS PLANED FOR MAY IT MUST HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT? WAS IT PART OF THE FORK NOW ? IF NOT ID AS WHY ?
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August 09, 2016, 07:36:23 AM |
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So, Alex Van De Sande thinks ETC is not worth having!
Please, tell Alex Van De Sande to send over to me those worthless ETHC!He was in the first steps of the DAO hack, but not in the later stages. He has no access to the DAO ETC. So becoin should ask other DAO hackers white or black to return the ETHC. Or he can buy them on the market.
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ETH-fork is dead?
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August 09, 2016, 08:17:54 AM |
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ETH-fork is dead?
Why the '?' mark? Of course, it's dead. Nobody will use ETHF as fuel for their smart contracts if ETHC is x6 cheaper. You sell 1 ETHF and get 6 ETHC... Wow... What a deal. Thank you die hard forkers! Keep up the support for ETHF price!
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August 09, 2016, 08:46:10 AM |
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ETH-fork is dead?
Why the '?' mark? Of course, it's dead. Nobody will use ETHF as fuel for their smart contracts if ETHC is x6 cheaper. You sell 1 ETHF and get 6 ETHC... Wow... What a deal. Thank you die hard forkers! Keep up the support for ETHF price! That is great news. The Expanse, SOIL is even cheaper. You should use those coins for the smart contracts.
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