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Author Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com  (Read 466205 times)
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July 03, 2014, 01:59:10 PM
Last edit: July 03, 2014, 02:49:11 PM by utahjohn
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The same appears to happen to X11 too.
If you look at server time at bottom of page and last block found on X11 it appears to be working.
However last block found on X13 has not updated for a long time (Almost 9 hours now) Sad

@PW note this occured at same time earned X13 payouts were processed, looks like same problem as before some service is hung.
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July 03, 2014, 03:47:22 PM
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Agreed John, I noticed blocks were still found on the X11 page but the unconverted/earned numbers appear to be frozen as well even if i'm actively mining.
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July 03, 2014, 03:58:31 PM
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Looks like PW is working on it, X13 blocks being reported again Smiley
Unconverted is going up but not earned, it will take a while for conversion ...
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July 03, 2014, 04:17:23 PM
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I just discovered something interesting.
KTK (KryptKoin) is a Pure PoS coin using wafflepool and nicehash to mine BTC on "their pool" and buy KTK coins on exchanges .
They have already added wafflepool X13 to "their pool" Wink which is nothing more than a frontend to multipools LOL.
Quite a strategy, buy KTK with BTC earned on waffle at a low and then miners dump them back on market at a higher price ... scam coin IMO.

There have been quite a few different pools doing things like this (its pretty obvious server side with hundreds of connections from a single proxy IP).

One thing thats still on my list is to allow payouts in whatever currency people want, and was debating taking their "easier" approach and setting up a side service (different domain, but "affiliated" with WP for trust purposes) that would take the address you want to be paid in (and the currency) and give you an auto-convert BTC address that you could mine from WP.

For example, you go to the site, select:
I want to paid in [currency], my [currency] address is: [address].
The site gives you a new BTC address that takes any amount sent to it, forwards it to an exchange, converts to the currency you want, and sends the resulting amount to your original currency address.

Its an easy way to allow for mining to different currencies (doesn't take as long), but unfortunately still goes currency -> btc -> currency.  Where if it was done on WP itself, we could potentially avoid the 2x conversions.

This could be the "quick and easy" way to do a multi-port algo switcher?  How would the client using sgminer v5 be notified to switch algo? (or uses Nicehash port disabling method ... this would require seperate scryptn, scrypt, X11, X13, X15 ports so as not to interfere with those wanting to mine a specific algo)
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July 03, 2014, 04:29:41 PM
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I just discovered something interesting.
KTK (KryptKoin) is a Pure PoS coin using wafflepool and nicehash to mine BTC on "their pool" and buy KTK coins on exchanges .
They have already added wafflepool X13 to "their pool" Wink which is nothing more than a frontend to multipools LOL.
Quite a strategy, buy KTK with BTC earned on waffle at a low and then miners dump them back on market at a higher price ... scam coin IMO.

There have been quite a few different pools doing things like this (its pretty obvious server side with hundreds of connections from a single proxy IP).

One thing thats still on my list is to allow payouts in whatever currency people want, and was debating taking their "easier" approach and setting up a side service (different domain, but "affiliated" with WP for trust purposes) that would take the address you want to be paid in (and the currency) and give you an auto-convert BTC address that you could mine from WP.

For example, you go to the site, select:
I want to paid in [currency], my [currency] address is: [address].
The site gives you a new BTC address that takes any amount sent to it, forwards it to an exchange, converts to the currency you want, and sends the resulting amount to your original currency address.

Its an easy way to allow for mining to different currencies (doesn't take as long), but unfortunately still goes currency -> btc -> currency.  Where if it was done on WP itself, we could potentially avoid the 2x conversions.

This could be the "quick and easy" way to do a multi-port algo switcher?  How would the client using sgminer v5 be notified to switch algo? (or uses Nicehash port disabling method ... this would require seperate scryptn, scrypt, X11, X13, X15 ports so as not to interfere with those wanting to mine a specific algo)

Not algo switcher, custom payout currency.
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July 03, 2014, 04:31:23 PM
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Looks like PW added another X13 coin Smiley
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July 03, 2014, 06:27:28 PM
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Again just noticed this on the earnings log:

Earnings Log
Time                                  Coin                 Amount             BTC
     cryptcoin            0.00243095    0.00000090
     survivorcoin    0.00007533    0.00000000
     fractalcoin            0.00091169    0.00000024

Question: Is the total under amount individual miner coin amount or overall pool amount?

and next observance is the profitability of survivorcoin again, 0.00000000  for 6 minutes? Really?

regardless if the amount in column three is individual or pool amount, a zero payout?


Is this apart of the x11 and x13 flat-line issue too even if it was just a couple hours before the noticeable flat-lines started occurring.

FTC  6nvzqqaCEizThvgMeC86MGzhAxGzKEtNH8 |WDC WckDxipCes2eBmxrUYEhrUfNNRZexKuYjR  |BQC bSDm3XvauqWWnqrxfimw5wdHVDQDp2U8XU
BOT EjcroqeMpZT4hphY4xYDzTQakwutpnufQR |BTG geLUGuJkhnvuft77ND6VrMvc8vxySKZBUz |LTC  LhXbJMzCqLEzGBKgB2n73oce448BxX1dc4
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July 03, 2014, 06:32:39 PM
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Again just noticed this on the earnings log:

Earnings Log
Time                                  Coin                 Amount             BTC
     cryptcoin            0.00243095    0.00000090
     survivorcoin    0.00007533    0.00000000
     fractalcoin            0.00091169    0.00000024

Question: Is the total under amount individual miner coin amount or overall pool amount?

and next observance is the profitability of survivorcoin again, 0.00000000  for 6 minutes? Really?

regardless if the amount in column three is individual or pool amount, a zero payout?


Is this apart of the x11 and x13 flat-line issue too even if it was just a couple hours before the noticeable flat-lines started occurring.

This was mentioned a few pages back as well, its just a formatting issue.  Everything on the backend is handled to 16 decimal places, everything on the frontend is displayed as 8 decimal places
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July 03, 2014, 08:42:13 PM
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I have to agree, I don't like seeing pay of 0 in earnings log, If it's dust amounts at 16 digits decimal just do not display the 0 at all.  I assume the dust amount is still credited to earnings.
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July 03, 2014, 09:30:46 PM
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I have to agree, I don't like seeing pay of 0 in earnings log, If it's dust amounts at 16 digits decimal just do not display the 0 at all.  I assume the dust amount is still credited to earnings.

Yep, everything is credited at 16 digits, except payouts which are at 8 digit (since thats all that the coins allow).  I'll see what I can do to make them cleaner to see though (maybe mark them as "dust", or just round them to 0.00000001)
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July 03, 2014, 10:14:52 PM
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My rig on x11 seems to go dead now on aprox same time everyday, usually around 19:30-20:00 server time? then i need to do a reboot to get it going again, started like this yesterday else it worked fine , did you do some changes to x11 yesterday that could explain this?

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July 03, 2014, 10:39:33 PM
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My rig on x11 seems to go dead now on aprox same time everyday, usually around 19:30-20:00 server time? then i need to do a reboot to get it going again, started like this yesterday else it worked fine , did you do some changes to x11 yesterday that could explain this?

Nope, X11 hasn't been touched in a few days (and then only to add/remove coins).
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July 03, 2014, 10:49:34 PM
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Are there any "watchdog's" in place to catch such situations as the flatline issue where block scoring got hung?
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July 03, 2014, 11:32:58 PM
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Are there any "watchdog's" in place to catch such situations as the flatline issue where block scoring got hung?

Yep, added a couple extra alerts.  Essentially any time something breaks, it gets fixed and an alert gets added for it, so if it happens again it will get handled quickly.

Unfortunately, its rare that things break in the same place (mostly because once they're fixed they don't tend to happen again)
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July 04, 2014, 01:33:53 AM
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Just as I thought ... MAIAcoin a massive scam, dev will not respond to me yet he posted on another subject just prior to and after my post:
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Question to Dev:  Why are blocks of 500 even being accepted by the blockchain? They should be rejected, blocks are 505. Huh  What's to stop a disreputable pool op from making blocks 1000 or even more as long as the Foundation fee is paid in the block Huh  And worse yet a modified client solo mining Huh
I think you had better release a fixed wallet that rejects blocks not 505 coins, and a "clean" blockchain.
This is a serious exploit potential ... Too bad for those who mined the 500 blocks LOL. (Including me in the beginning!)
I'm switching my miners back to X13 wafflepool ...
I'm seeing a massive sell-off on bittrex and price is dropping steadily.
F'it I'm dumping mine too Sad
I got out safely and converted to BTC ... @.000039 price now .000029 and still falling ....
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July 04, 2014, 03:37:03 AM
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Just as I thought ... MAIAcoin a massive scam, dev will not respond to me yet he posted on another subject just prior to and after my post:
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Question to Dev:  Why are blocks of 500 even being accepted by the blockchain? They should be rejected, blocks are 505. Huh  What's to stop a disreputable pool op from making blocks 1000 or even more as long as the Foundation fee is paid in the block Huh  And worse yet a modified client solo mining Huh
I think you had better release a fixed wallet that rejects blocks not 505 coins, and a "clean" blockchain.
This is a serious exploit potential ... Too bad for those who mined the 500 blocks LOL. (Including me in the beginning!)
I'm switching my miners back to X13 wafflepool ...
I'm seeing a massive sell-off on bittrex and price is dropping steadily.
F'it I'm dumping mine too Sad
I got out safely and converted to BTC ... @.000039 price now .000029 and still falling ....

yep i made small profits and got left with 100 or so, will see if it raises for a second or not.
either way as usual ended up as scam. i dont get why peopel dont mine SIS enought - 0 premine x11 coin with cool dev.

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July 04, 2014, 04:42:00 AM
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yep i made small profits and got left with 100 or so, will see if it raises for a second or not.
either way as usual ended up as scam. i dont get why peopel dont mine SIS enought - 0 premine x11 coin with cool dev.
Witnessing the death of another shit scam coin in a matter of days since launch Sad
No doubt the dev has bailed already when shit hit the fan ... I'd take what you can get before they get de-listed from bittrex ... I've already moved my BTC to wallet Smiley  I'm going to drain their faucet before they fix the drip, Get better returns on faucet than I was PoS LOL.
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July 04, 2014, 05:38:59 AM
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good catch PW, let's net the remaining riotcoin out of the pond Smiley
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July 04, 2014, 06:46:36 AM
Last edit: July 04, 2014, 07:45:09 AM by Jynger
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sorry if it's already answered, I could not find it, Would it be possible to get sum of all algos paid out, not every algo separately?
That would flush the little dust from everywhere.
Also adjust X11 vsLTC multiplier a bit, its closer to 5 than 4.
Or would it be possible to pass rigs scrypt hashrate value in password field for individual hashrate calculation?
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poolwaffle, do you have API for current approximate BTC/1MH (not average per current day) for each algo?
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