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Lucko
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March 29, 2014, 07:00:32 PM |
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I know it is not normal PPS. But Still Estimated Total+payout BTC should be increasing constantly right? It is not. It is getting smaller... I might just don't understand it. But in 24 hours I should see 0,3BTC increase right? Well it looks like this will not be the case. It will be more about 0,2.
Or is this my wrong understanding and it is not PPS with the difference that when you get to some value you get to query and get paid when pool found enough blocks.
Just forget the estimated line (the blue line). It behaves in an difficult to explain manner. Just, it is completely normal that it goes high after a block is found and decreases a bit afterwards. The violet line, though, should always be increasing. But it increases at en erratical rate. After 24 hours, you could see an increase of 0.3 BTC. Or not. Especially when you -start- mining at eligius, the odds are your first few days you will make slightly less that expected. However, after a few day, you'll reach a steady state. (And when you leave eligius, you will still get some rewards for the first few days after you leave, so it evens out) You can check the "Shares Rewarded" column at the top to see the difference between what the pool "owns" you vs what it has effectively mined the money to pay. This percentage will increase over time, as luck evens things out. I've been mining for 8 months now, and I'm over 99%. Thanks. I read more about it and figur out it is my missunderstending of the system. |
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jesse11
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March 29, 2014, 09:28:24 PM |
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What I don't understand, who gets a newly mined block. With all the Pools mining on the blockchain and all the mining power out there, who gets the block. The one with the most trans in the new block or the one with the last trans in the newly mined block?
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baddw
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March 29, 2014, 09:56:03 PM |
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What I don't understand, who gets a newly mined block. With all the Pools mining on the blockchain and all the mining power out there, who gets the block. The one with the most trans in the new block or the one with the last trans in the newly mined block?
The one who finds a block that works. Doesn't matter how many transactions are in it. If one of the pools finds a hash of that block beginning with 0000000000000000 then that pool gets the block. (I believe it's presently 16 0's... could be more or less. It was less in the past, it will be more in the future.) |
BTC/XCP 11596GYYq5WzVHoHTmYZg4RufxxzAGEGBX DRK XvFhRFQwvBAmFkaii6Kafmu6oXrH4dSkVF Eligius Payouts/CPPSRB Explained I am not associated with Eligius in any way. I just think that it is a good pool with a cool payment system  |
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jesse11
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March 29, 2014, 09:59:29 PM |
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I understand, but the one that "creates" the new block is the one that gets it?
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mdude77
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March 29, 2014, 10:18:52 PM |
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I understand, but the one that "creates" the new block is the one that gets it?
Yes. In this case, the "one" is the pool. You get a piece of it based on your amount of shares submitted for that block try attempt. M |
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March 29, 2014, 10:36:50 PM
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Thank You mdude77, that clears things up in my mind after reading this: "The difficulty is the measure of how difficult it is to find a new block compared to the easiest it can ever be. It is recalculated every 2016 blocks to a value such that the previous 2016 blocks would have been generated in exactly two weeks had everyone been mining at this difficulty. This will yield, on average, one block every ten minutes. As more miners join, the rate of block creation will go up. As the rate of block generation goes up, the difficulty rises to compensate which will push the rate of block creation back down." from the Bitcoin wiki. May your Hash rate always increase, Jesse11
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georgem
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March 30, 2014, 10:49:23 AM
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stats are down again?  EDIT: UP Again. |
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fryarminer
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March 30, 2014, 01:53:13 PM |
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There was a time when the shelved shares almost caught up - I think it was back at 100% for a while. Will that ever happen again?
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wizkid057 (OP)
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March 30, 2014, 04:04:15 PM |
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*sigh*
Continuous DoS attacks... although the attacker seems to be running out of resources lately since they're not nearly as strong as they were.
Unfortunately its still enough to play havoc with the webserver.
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anth0ny
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March 30, 2014, 04:16:36 PM |
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*sigh*
Continuous DoS attacks... although the attacker seems to be running out of resources lately since they're not nearly as strong as they were.
Unfortunately its still enough to play havoc with the webserver.
Too bad the NSA killed IPsec. |
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DustyRah
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March 30, 2014, 04:53:14 PM |
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For some reason the side Namecoin mining appears to have stopped about a month or so ago...has merged Namecoin mining been disabled?
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anth0ny
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March 30, 2014, 04:54:15 PM |
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For some reason the side Namecoin mining appears to have stopped about a month or so ago...has merged Namecoin mining been disabled?
Last I heard they got hacked (or, at least, noticed suspicious activity) and temporarily shut down NMC [payouts]. EDIT: added "payouts" for clarification |
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blubberli
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March 30, 2014, 05:00:31 PM |
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IMHO they shutdown the payouts, not the merged mining. An offical update on this topic would be nice.
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wizkid057 (OP)
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March 30, 2014, 05:06:04 PM |
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For some reason the side Namecoin mining appears to have stopped about a month or so ago...has merged Namecoin mining been disabled?
Last I heard they got hacked (or, at least, noticed suspicious activity) and temporarily shut down NMC. There was a bug in some old stats code that allowed some SQL injection to the web stats (fixed here) and someone used it to mess up the web server side copy of the My Eligius data. The pool servers were in no way affected by any of this. The web server, by definition, is considered insecure and not able to affect pool operations. Everything pulled from the webserver (signatures for options) is re-verified on other servers. So, even if an attacker were actually able to compromise the web server (which they didn't) it wouldn't have any real effect. The NMC payout code runs on another server, pulls this data, reverifies the signatures, and then pays out the proper amount of NMC. The issue was that my code for re-verifying the signatures was broken and I didn't realize, so, one set of payouts got messed up and used corrupt data. I fixed the stats bug, fixed any broken options from the previous day's backup, and am in the process of completely rewriting and testing the NMC payout code. My time has been extremely limited. Combine that with battling constant DDoS attacks against the pool for nearly a week now and I hope you can understand why this isn't quite complete yet. I am working on it, haven't forgotten about it, and it will get done. Also, when I do make the next NMC payout it will include backpay from the last valid payout (Mar 8th I believe off the top of my head) to the next valid payout. The pool is still mining NMC for you guys and everyone will be paid their NMC. No offense to anyone, but I have been ignoring most questions about whats going on about NMC (via PM, email, IRC, etc) just because answering the same question 1000x is a waste of time I should be using to actually work on the problem. Stay tuned. I'm hoping to have it done today, but no promises. -wk |
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anth0ny
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March 30, 2014, 05:09:15 PM |
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For some reason the side Namecoin mining appears to have stopped about a month or so ago...has merged Namecoin mining been disabled?
Last I heard they got hacked (or, at least, noticed suspicious activity) and temporarily shut down NMC. There was a bug in some old stats code that allowed some SQL injection to the web stats (fixed here) and someone used it to mess up the web server side copy of the My Eligius data. The pool servers were in no way affected by any of this. The web server, by definition, is considered insecure and not able to affect pool operations. Everything pulled from the webserver (signatures for options) is re-verified on other servers. So, even if an attacker were actually able to compromise the web server (which they didn't) it wouldn't have any real effect. The NMC payout code runs on another server, pulls this data, reverifies the signatures, and then pays out the proper amount of NMC. The issue was that my code for re-verifying the signatures was broken and I didn't realize, so, one set of payouts got messed up and used corrupt data. I fixed the stats bug, fixed any broken options from the previous day's backup, and am in the process of completely rewriting and testing the NMC payout code. My time has been extremely limited. Combine that with battling constant DDoS attacks against the pool for nearly a week now and I hope you can understand why this isn't quite complete yet. I am working on it, haven't forgotten about it, and it will get done. Also, when I do make the next NMC payout it will include backpay from the last valid payout (Mar 8th I believe off the top of my head) to the next valid payout. The pool is still mining NMC for you guys and everyone will be paid their NMC. No offense to anyone, but I have been ignoring most questions about whats going on about NMC (via PM, email, IRC, etc) just because answering the same question 1000x is a waste of time I should be using to actually work on the problem. Stay tuned. I'm hoping to have it done today, but no promises. -wk Thanks for the update! |
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blubberli
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March 30, 2014, 05:14:53 PM |
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Thanks for the update!
Aye, now we can quote this over and over again for the next 10 pages of questions. *giggles* ;-) P.S. I have no problem to wait for my NMC. Just keep the pool running. |
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wizkid057 (OP)
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March 30, 2014, 05:15:44 PM |
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Thanks for the update!
Aye, now we can quote this over and over again for the next 10 pages of questions. *giggles* ;-) Please do. Saves me the trouble.  |
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blubberli
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March 30, 2014, 05:17:47 PM |
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Please do. Saves me the trouble. I will do, I just wanted an update, your job is done for now. :-) |
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DPoS
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March 30, 2014, 06:39:38 PM |
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this pool doesn't seem to payout the way it explains itself.. been watching it like a hawk the past week and seems payouts has a mind of its own
a detail on the mechanics (not the theory) would be useful since it doesn't seem to behave in practice as it is intended... basically it seems all accumulated work gets held ransom regardless of current block luck cycles which in theory should be paying out portions past your pay threshold but in practice it just sits there and says you are going further and further behind as if all your current work is old work that has to wait for super luck to include you .. and that doesn't even seem to trigger it either
it is broken
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