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Maybe the first few when we only had 20 users or so. It was 0.0025 last year and the World Cup pool was 0.002 but we're getting 0.2 in sponsorship compared to nothing when we first started. £60 is still a bargain when there's a chance to 3 mBTC Free Bet each week and 0.1 for first place.

That's why it's strange to me that with the increase in the number of participants, the entry fee also increases. Plus an additional pot from the sponsor, which was not the case before. I expected it to go in the opposite direction.
Regardless, with high prizes and a large number of players, it becomes a really serious pool.

[Igebotz]

and after almost having us relegated last season, Frank Lampard is close to be back in Everton
he could not succeed as manager, but as Sean Dyche is no magnet for any player, and Everton can't even sign Gyokeres from Coventry, not to mention any better, Lampard will be back as transfer lead, since players obviously like him, and have trust in him

unbelievable, but almost truth, waiting to see what will happen

This is a huge mistake. If this story is true, Everton were on the verge of relegation last season due to the state and level in which Lamapard left the club. Everton are not a serious club if they are considering bringing Lamapard back to further harm the team. Graham Potter would be an excellent pick for team development.

Oh now I see ! He needed a break somewhere where the beach  for some fresh air to clear his head after the whole Chipmixer drama.

You’re right, the beach can be a therapeutic escape from the pressures of daily life. I hope nothing bad has happened to him. Let's wait for his safe return to the forum and then inquire about the reason for his long absence!

He owes us no explanation; he would return and go about his business as normal.

[Harkorede]

and after almost having us relegated last season, Frank Lampard is close to be back in Everton
he could not succeed as manager, but as Sean Dyche is no magnet for any player, and Everton can't even sign Gyokeres from Coventry, not to mention any better, Lampard will be back as transfer lead, since players obviously like him, and have trust in him

unbelievable, but almost truth, waiting to see what will happen

This is a huge mistake. If this story is true, Everton were on the verge of relegation last season due to the state and level in which Lampard left the club. Everton are not a serious club if they are considering bringing Lampard back to further harm the team. Graham Potter would be an excellent pick for team development.

It could be that Premier league is a very tough environment to start your coaching career from, but I really don't rate him as bad as almost all Chelsea fans hate Lampard as a coach, and in my strongest opinion, I think Lampard is actually a good manager if you ask me, but the relationship between the Chelsea board and these managers is often toxic and affects the players mentality at large too, still, that's the status quo at Chelsea, getting new players for a coach that hasn't taken over yet, and the coach comes want's them out which often leads to several media rumour.

It's better much better now that Chelsea are on a selling spree mode, because the squad was just too large for no apparent relevance than just some white guy thinks that football is NBA or American Football that he can use money to get just every trending Tom, Dick and Harry to the club.

Pochettino too might obviously be an upgraded tf Lampard, I won't disgree with that, but Pochettino doesn't sit with me like a coach that will always have that hunger for excellence or create identity for his team, he did a fantastic job with Tottenham to be honest, but Tottenham goal for every new season won't not be same thing that will be required off Pochettinno by Chelsea, I'll be surprised if he remain has Chelsea's manager until the end of season, but let's us see how it will go!

[hilariousandco]

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[Igebotz]

This is a huge mistake. If this story is true, Everton were on the verge of relegation last season due to the state and level in which Lampard left the club. Everton are not a serious club if they are considering bringing Lampard back to further harm the team. Graham Potter would be an excellent pick for team development.

It could be that Premier league is a very tough environment to start your coaching career from, but I really don't rate him as bad as almost all Chelsea fans hate Lampard as a coach, and in my strongest opinion, I think Lampard is actually a good manager if you ask me, but the relationship between the Chelsea board and these managers is often toxic and affects the players mentality at large too, still, that's the status quo at Chelsea, getting new players for a coach that hasn't taken over yet, and the coach comes want's them out which often leads to several media rumour.

No way are you putting Lampard's problems on Chelsea's management! Tuchel took over the same team Lampard felt was not good enough and won everything, including making Rudiger into a world class defender. Lampard is not simply a good manager; he had everything at both Chelsea and Everton but couldn't do anything. English managers are terrible; none of them have ever won the Premier League.

Lampard is a championship manager at best; the Premier League is a level above his ability and expertise.

Pochettino too might obviously be an upgraded tf Lampard, I won't disgree with that, but Pochettino doesn't sit with me like a coach that will always have that hunger for excellence or create identity for his team, he did a fantastic job with Tottenham to be honest, but Tottenham goal for every new season won't not be same thing that will be required off Pochettinno by Chelsea, I'll be surprised if he remain has Chelsea's manager until the end of season, but let's us see how it will go!

Poch does not have a title-winning mentality, but he is skilled at getting the best out of his players and developing young players, which is precisely what we want to achieve this season: get back to playing decent football and competing for a top-four finish. His goal this season is not to win the league, so I don't believe he's under a lot of pressure.

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[casperBGD]

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Lampard is a championship manager at best; the Premier League is a level above his ability and expertise.

he is planned to be a transfer lead, not manager, in a sense players love him (it is still developing, hopefully he will not join Everton again)

with pool being back, looked at some odds:
City to win title between @1.7 and @1.85
Chelsea @2.5 to qualify for CL next season
Burnley to relegate @2.75, Everton is @4, Luton and Sheffield are prime candidates for relegation

but, my pick will probably go to Brighton finishing 11 and below, @3.75

Norwich is @5.5 for promotion to EPL, which seems reasonable, and bit off-topic, but I would probably put something to Leyton Orient promotion to Championship @14

what are others picks for the season?

[Igebotz]

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Lampard is a championship manager at best; the Premier League is a level above his ability and expertise.

he is planned to be a transfer lead, not manager, in a sense players love him (it is still developing, hopefully he will not join Everton again)

Transfer lead for someone who almost signed Gordon from Everton for £50m; he's also terrible at recruiting players, I won't lie. It's still not good news.

what are others picks for the season?

I don't bet on outright odds; why would I wait a whole year for a 1.70 odd profit? It's not worth it and never will be. Outright odds are good for a 1-2 month tournament. BTW, 1.75 for Manchester City to win the Premier League? That is far too low for the risk.

[KTChampions]

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I don't bet on outright odds; why would I wait a whole year for a 1.70 odd profit? It's not worth it and never will be. Outright odds are good for a 1-2 month tournament. BTW, 1.75 for Manchester City to win the Premier League? That is far too low for the risk.

Too low?   +75% for a team that looks like a skating rink going through all the competitors? To be honest, I expected City quotes to be around 1.35-1.45 no more. Now I have a heavy feeling that I missed some important news and was generally mistaken.

[LTU_btc]

I'm in again without any doubts. I already lost count how many seasons I'm playing in this pool. I think I missed only first and maybe 2nd season.
Going to send funds this weekend.

Too low?   +75% for a team that looks like a skating rink going through all the competitors? To be honest, I expected City quotes to be around 1.35-1.45 no more. Now I have a heavy feeling that I missed some important news and was generally mistaken.

It's not bad odds, but maybe for more short term than whole season. Actually, I don't believe that we have outright odds in EPL below 2.00

[Joca97]

I'm in again without any doubts. I already lost count how many seasons I'm playing in this pool. I think I missed only first and maybe 2nd season.
Going to send funds this weekend.

Too low?   +75% for a team that looks like a skating rink going through all the competitors? To be honest, I expected City quotes to be around 1.35-1.45 no more. Now I have a heavy feeling that I missed some important news and was generally mistaken.

It's not bad odds, but maybe for more short term than whole season. Actually, I don't believe that we have outright odds in EPL below 2.00

Cannot wait for the pool to start,was in since the beginning and i hope we will see even more people here this season in the pool. Looks like this season with all the new transfers will be really intresting. Last pool didnt make it into top 20 but will try and get to top 5 at least this season.

[Harkorede]

No way are you putting Lampard's problems on Chelsea's management! Tuchel took over the same team Lampard felt was not good enough and won everything, including making Rudiger into a world class defender. Lampard is not simply a good manager; he had everything at both Chelsea and Everton but couldn't do anything. English managers are terrible; none of them have ever won the Premier League.

I'm not putting the Chelsea's failure during Lampard's tenure on the management, but the board needs to take some responsibility for hiring him the first place too, he was never qualified enough to coach Chelsea, at least not yet, what happened to David Moyes after his brilliant tenure at Everton he became an awful coach at Man Utd, and then his spell at was it Real Sociedad ? wasn't any different, but he's been not so terrible being back at West Ham, and you can say that the expectation are incomparable to what was expected of him at Real Sociedad or Man United.

Even with Guardiola dominance at the premier league after 7 seasons in the league, he struggled in the first season too, finishing at the 3rd position and he's never finished out 2nd position since then, and no one pictured such a dominance from him, but here we are, it was easier for Guardiola to stand such pressure because of his experience as manager at all level of the sport as a manager haven managed two of the best teams in Europe.

Poch does not have a title-winning mentality, but he is skilled at getting the best out of his players and developing young players, which is precisely what we want to achieve this season: get back to playing decent football and competing for a top-four finish. His goal this season is not to win the league, so I don't believe he's under a lot of pressure.

I guess we can both agree he doesn't have a title winning mentality, and I don't that's what Chelsea is looking but we'll see, I guess. There is not going to be too much pressure on him, but if he's playing for the just the league and just the league cups, it'll will an utter failure to not make the top 4, wouldn't you think ? and that might be the every pressure he's going to face would stem from.

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Bring it on! I can't wait...

[Igebotz]

Too low?  +75% for a team that looks like a skating rink going through all the competitors? To be honest, I expected City quotes to be around 1.35-1.45 no more. Now I have a heavy feeling that I missed some important news and was generally mistaken.

Yes, I'm greedy, but I'd rather receive +75% of my stake on a basketball first half overs bet than have to wait a full calendar year for it.  It's still not worth it.

I'm not putting the Chelsea's failure during Lampard's tenure on the management, but the board needs to take some responsibility for hiring him the first place too, he was never qualified enough to coach Chelsea, at least not yet, what happened to David Moyes after his brilliant tenure at Everton he became an awful coach at Man Utd, and then his spell at was it Real Sociedad ? wasn't any different, but he's been not so terrible being back at West Ham, and you can say that the expectation are incomparable to what was expected of him at Real Sociedad or Man United.

If you're blaming out poor run on the management for hiring him then you're right, this is exactly what I wanted to hear.

I guess we can both agree he doesn't have a title winning mentality, and I don't that's what Chelsea is looking but we'll see, I guess. There is not going to be too much pressure on him, but if he's playing for the just the league and just the league cups, it'll will an utter failure to not make the top 4, wouldn't you think ? and that might be the every pressure he's going to face would stem from.

We won't be playing many games next season, so I expect Poch to take advantage of this and make the top4, and if he doesn't, with the quality of players we have at the club, it will be a failure, putting even more pressure on him, as you mentioned.

[Trofo]

I guess we can both agree he doesn't have a title winning mentality, and I don't that's what Chelsea is looking but we'll see, I guess. There is not going to be too much pressure on him, but if he's playing for the just the league and just the league cups, it'll will an utter failure to not make the top 4, wouldn't you think ? and that might be the every pressure he's going to face would stem from.

We won't be playing many games next season, so I expect Poch to take advantage of this and make the top4, and if he doesn't, with the quality of players we have at the club, it will be a failure, putting even more pressure on him, as you mentioned.

I think biggest problem for Chelsea is Boehly. He does not understand football, the kind we play in Europe, and that was the main reason for that atrocious transfer window. I still remember you were happy with the signings but if you ask me his transfer policy is the worst I have seen in a long time. You pay 70M for Mudryk, 120 for Fernandez and let Kante, Jorginho and Kovačić for almost nothing. Then you buy Fofana for 80M and let go of Mount. I know they aren't same position but they are connected since they are both English and PL clubs must have them.

Poch is a good manager, I just hope Boehly will listen to him and not do stuff his way.

[swogerino]

I guess we can both agree he doesn't have a title winning mentality, and I don't that's what Chelsea is looking but we'll see, I guess. There is not going to be too much pressure on him, but if he's playing for the just the league and just the league cups, it'll will an utter failure to not make the top 4, wouldn't you think ? and that might be the every pressure he's going to face would stem from.

We won't be playing many games next season, so I expect Poch to take advantage of this and make the top4, and if he doesn't, with the quality of players we have at the club, it will be a failure, putting even more pressure on him, as you mentioned.

I think biggest problem for Chelsea is Boehly. He does not understand football, the kind we play in Europe, and that was the main reason for that atrocious transfer window. I still remember you were happy with the signings but if you ask me his transfer policy is the worst I have seen in a long time. You pay 70M for Mudryk, 120 for Fernandez and let Kante, Jorginho and Kovačić for almost nothing. Then you buy Fofana for 80M and let go of Mount. I know they aren't same position but they are connected since they are both English and PL clubs must have them.

Poch is a good manager, I just hope Boehly will listen to him and not do stuff his way.

I think Poch has already the full trust of Boehly and he will let Poch choose what players see fit,I have not seen any interference so far from him and Poch has been able to conduct his coaching normally.Poch also said that he has a clear idea which players he needs and with such statement I believe he leave no room to Boehly to spend in "vain" again.

Last year I don't think it was Boehly fault by the way,it was exactly incompetent managers who could not put the right mentality and the right harmony between such good players,a thing I am sure will be corrected during Poch kingdom at Chelsea.

[Trofo]

Last year I don't think it was Boehly fault by the way,it was exactly incompetent managers who could not put the right mentality and the right harmony between such good players,a thing I am sure will be corrected during Poch kingdom at Chelsea.

Chelsea had 35 world class turbo expensive players at the end of last season. No manager in the world can make them happy and no club in the world can pay those wages in the long run.

Whoever was in charge of transfers did terrible job. And I believe that was Boelhy. I am almost sure that without single transfer they would have finished the season better. And money spent in that transfer window set them back for years.

[tokeweed]

^  Yup, they had to sell more than 10 of them to get the number down to around 25 and have some in the bank to spend.  Brings down the wage budget too.  I think Chelsea had 43 players including the guys that went up from their youth academy?  Crazy...

But yeah, I'm excited the most for them in the EPL with Burnley a close second.    Let's see what Poch can do for the club.  And how Kompany fares at the highest level.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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Of course I'm in business.

I paid my entry fees yesterday and so far it seems we have 9 incoming transactions, one of 0.005 btc that covers for two. So I guess we have 10 members so far. Still we have time though but it would not hurt to complete the entry process while bitcoin price is still down. It's around $75 per entry and considering the sponsorship of 0.2 BTC, on top of the sponsorship if we manage to get 50 members then 0.125 btc more. We will have nice rewards for the top 10 positions.

[Harkorede]

but, my pick will probably go to Brighton finishing 11 and below, @3.75

I really don't know man, but the odd isn't worth it in my candid opinion, because Leeds, Leicester, and Southampton are not in the league, and these are the teams you can expect to fight for a spot in the top 10 positions and without them, I believe increases their chances of finishing top 10, I might understand that they've made some sales that could affect their performance, but average point to finish top 10 in the EPL over these years is what you need to consider, how many wins would be needed of Brighton to reach that threshold.

We won't be playing many games next season, so I expect Poch to take advantage of this and make the top4, and if he doesn't, with the quality of players we have at the club, it will be a failure, putting even more pressure on him, as you mentioned.

I think biggest problem for Chelsea is Boehly. He does not understand football, the kind we play in Europe, and that was the main reason for that atrocious transfer window. I still remember you were happy with the signings but if you ask me his transfer policy is the worst I have seen in a long time. You pay 70M for Mudryk, 120 for Fernandez and let Kante, Jorginho and Kovačić for almost nothing. Then you buy Fofana for 80M and let go of Mount. I know they aren't same position but they are connected since they are both English and PL clubs must have them.

Poch is a good manager, I just hope Boehly will listen to him and not do stuff his way.

I can still say Boehly is likely laying the wrong foundation for Poch to fail, Kante, Kovacic and Jorginho are players that should be very valuable to the I understand the need to cut their salary budget, a situation Boehly himself put them in by purchase almost every available in the market. Look at Real Madrid purchasing very expensive midfielders but still kept Modric and Kroos for a years more, so that the new young prospect also learn a lot from them, I still think Poch can make his own decision and not just have a replica tenure with that he had with PSG.

[Igebotz]

Last year I don't think it was Boehly fault by the way,it was exactly incompetent managers who could not put the right mentality and the right harmony between such good players,a thing I am sure will be corrected during Poch kingdom at Chelsea.

Chelsea had 35 world class turbo expensive players at the end of last season. No manager in the world can make them happy and no club in the world can pay those wages in the long run.

Whoever was in charge of transfers did terrible job. And I believe that was Boelhy. I am almost sure that without single transfer they would have finished the season better. And money spent in that transfer window set them back for years.

I wouldn't blame Todd Boehly; he was simply doing his job following the takeover, and after we lost the A transfer list (De ligt, Halaand, Raphinna, and Kounde) last summer following the takeover, the supporters were all over him, and he wanted to prove he was the guy for the club. He brought together some of the greatest scouts from various teams before the January transfer craze, and don't you think we're assessing these guys too soon? Give them at least one preseason with the team. There were a lot of deadwoods, and I'm delighted we've already gotten rid of eight of them. What made you believe we would do better without those new recruits?

I can still say Boehly is likely laying the wrong foundation for Poch to fail, Kante, Kovacic and Jorginho are players that should be very valuable to the I understand the need to cut their salary budget, a situation Boehly himself put them in by purchase almost every available in the market. Look at Real Madrid purchasing very expensive midfielders but still kept Modric and Kroos for a years more, so that the new young prospect also learn a lot from them, I still think Poch can make his own decision and not just have a replica tenure with that he had with PSG.

No man! Kante was already out of his depth; he only played less than 10 games for us last season and his time was up; Kovacic, too, spent much of his time in the hospital the last two seasons while earning a large salary; and Jorginho is no longer missed. Mount was the one player Poch suggested the team consider keeping, but there was little the club could do for someone looking for a big payday.

[KTChampions]

Too low?  +75% for a team that looks like a skating rink going through all the competitors? To be honest, I expected City quotes to be around 1.35-1.45 no more. Now I have a heavy feeling that I missed some important news and was generally mistaken.

Yes, I'm greedy, but I'd rather receive +75% of my stake on a basketball first half overs bet than have to wait a full calendar year for it.  It's still not worth it.

It's not bad odds, but maybe for more short term than whole season. Actually, I don't believe that we have outright odds in EPL below 2.00

I consider myself greedy, but it seems that against the background of you colleagues, I'm not so greedy as i think 
I myself like bets with large odds (3-6), but if we are talking about reliable bets, then this is 1.3-1.5. In this case, 1.75 seems to be the most reliable, so when I think about this bet, I think of a significant amount, and + 75% to a serious amount seems very generous to me.