Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

It's been a bad round so far for many. Why wouldn't it be? Three draw out of six match so far. I don't think many people prefer to go with a draw.

I don't mind draws and I generally pick quite a few of them but problem in this GW was that they were all quite unexpected results. I had 1:1 on Brentford - Leicester and then changed it last minute to 2:1 so missed 3 points there. Never would have got Chelsea draw just when they started to look a bit better or Wolves losing at home while conceding 4 goals.

I rarely go for draw. I feel like 90 minutes is a long time to decide a team to stay ahead, I know it's a weird feeling, it's like we don't see draw matches LOL
In many occasions I had bitter feeling that you had in Brentford match. I lost count of them. When I make a pick, I don't change it before the match starts anymore. Thing is, you have no idea what you are about to change will become right or it was already a correct outcome.

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I thought I had the worst among those of us who are posting regular basis but looking at you gives me some confidence LOL

Ending this round with 1 point from Arsenal  . I guess its better than 0 point and I guess this is my first wooden spoon this season(?) cant recall if I ever got any other during this season





So I guess those with 0 points means they didnt put any predictions this round hence I got the wooden spoon

This round result was not good for anyone overall. Let's forget it. The one who got the yellow cap he is extremely lucky.

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[mitchr4]

Also, other teams were postponed, which reduced the number of points we earned. I fully admit that the next round will be significantly more challenging because everyone on the top are competing for the best spot. Hoping everyone luck.

[hilariousandco]

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I thought I had the worst among those of us who are posting regular basis but looking at you gives me some confidence LOL

Ending this round with 1 point from Arsenal  . I guess its better than 0 point and I guess this is my first wooden spoon this season(?) cant recall if I ever got any other during this season





So I guess those with 0 points means they didnt put any predictions this round hence I got the wooden spoon

I only got 1.5 this week. I'm practically bottom of the overall table as well. The only users below me are pretty much the ones that have just given up like Welsh  . No idea what's going on this season but there's been a lot of crazy results.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I only got 1.5 this week. I'm practically bottom of the overall table as well. The only users below me are pretty much the ones that have just given up like Welsh  . No idea what's going on this season but there's been a lot of crazy results.

Everything is happening in these season.

City used to win constantly, so does Liverpool, Utd were unpredictable for me. Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham, Leicester have huge difference in performance comparing to the last few season. The point table for PM tells everything. So this season is not an easy season for PL lovers. We are the same.

This season seems out of hand. May be there is a hope to stay in top 20 but I don't expect anything from it right now.

I used to think CL matches are unpredictable but that's where I feel comfortable these days LOL

[buwaytress]

Yes he was doing good thinking in Crystal Palace parameters, but well seems like they have some fear of relegation? They are 12, and you might think, well they are safe, but clearly not, they are only 3 points away from the last position of relegation.

And for the second thing, YES again, really important the slam point and i think can be hard to adquire.

Yeah, I don't recall there ever being as tight a table as this season, from bottom to middle anyway, and it's been pretty much that way all season. I remember when Vieira and Gerrard arrived and most people thought it'd be a breath of fresh air to see such different ideas coming in. Was never meant to be, in the end.

Kompany next to come, and I hear a lot of chants for his name as Pep's successor but I don't think that would end well either.

Oh, and fitting that the only slam point won this week was FMbetbru, the Yellow Cap winner.

[swogerino]

I only got 1.5 this week. I'm practically bottom of the overall table as well. The only users below me are pretty much the ones that have just given up like Welsh  . No idea what's going on this season but there's been a lot of crazy results.

I don't think we have had crazy results except a couple of weeks but this year most of the games have come as predicted and most probably these type of results do not favor those who go for bold draws or backing the underdogs,I remember you backing Brighton against Arsenal last pool or that before the last  .That must be the reason you are so down as if you have put always the favorites,a route that I have tried this year you would probably have better results but since there are 22 places in prize spots,you have time to recover,who knows if the true crazy results start coming these last weeks of the tournament,after all this is Premier League.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Yeah, I don't recall there ever being as tight a table as this season, from bottom to middle anyway, and it's been pretty much that way all season. I remember when Vieira and Gerrard arrived and most people thought it'd be a breath of fresh air to see such different ideas coming in. Was never meant to be, in the end.

Kompany next to come, and I hear a lot of chants for his name as Pep's successor but I don't think that would end well either.

People always think being a great player means you will become a great manager and it’s usually always not the case. Some of the greatest managers have been very average players. Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp. I guess you have Ancelotti and Pep who played at a high level.

Gerrard and Vieira will get another chance, I actually think sacking Vieira was harsh. Gerrard was doing badly at Villa so maybe deserved it.

[darxiaomi]

Yeah, I don't recall there ever being as tight a table as this season, from bottom to middle anyway, and it's been pretty much that way all season. I remember when Vieira and Gerrard arrived and most people thought it'd be a breath of fresh air to see such different ideas coming in. Was never meant to be, in the end.

Kompany next to come, and I hear a lot of chants for his name as Pep's successor but I don't think that would end well either.

People always think being a great player means you will become a great manager and it’s usually always not the case. Some of the greatest managers have been very average players. Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp. I guess you have Ancelotti and Pep who played at a high level.

Gerrard and Vieira will get another chance, I actually think sacking Vieira was harsh. Gerrard was doing badly at Villa so maybe deserved it.

Yes and this its because, the greatest players have the habilitie to communicate better his born idea to his foot, but that doesnt mean them have better ideas than a average player who maybe have better ideas but he cant communicate good between his brain and his foot (im talking about neuroplasticity).

So when they become managers the good player lost all his advantadge because now its only pure knowledge and ideas, no more skills.
And the average player always have to made more tactical or learn more about correct position etc, to tape the fault of skills. So when he retire he can bring all that to the new players.

I dont know if im clear in my explanation but, if you play football at some level you can understand me.

[arallmuus]

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So I guess those with 0 points means they didnt put any predictions this round hence I got the wooden spoon

I only got 1.5 this week. I'm practically bottom of the overall table as well. The only users below me are pretty much the ones that have just given up like Welsh  . No idea what's going on this season but there's been a lot of crazy results.

Yeah I noticed and at this rate Im pretty close on giving up as well. The only reason that Im still playing is atleast to land that golden cap once, I wouldnt want to go down without having a decent moneyback yet on my registration fee

I dont know if im clear in my explanation but, if you play football at some level you can understand me.

Its pretty clear for me. Its pretty much like talent and hardwork, some players gotta work for it so they know how to work on some skills and what kind of drill needed for that while the talented players probably wont know the drill on how to implement that skills onto another player because it just come to them because they are talented

P.S : I guess I made it more confusing with my explanation lol

[buwaytress]

People always think being a great player means you will become a great manager and it’s usually always not the case. Some of the greatest managers have been very average players. Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp. I guess you have Ancelotti and Pep who played at a high level.

Gerrard and Vieira will get another chance, I actually think sacking Vieira was harsh. Gerrard was doing badly at Villa so maybe deserved it.

Yeah, I still think Gerrard needs more experience. Would love him to steer the ship, but only because he seemed such a fit spiritually (I remember even when King Kenny didn't do well on his return he still brought back a lot of cheer and was, well, he was responsible for bringing in Suarez, Hendo... I'll pretend he never brought Carroll in haha).

Yes and this its because, the greatest players have the habilitie to communicate better his born idea to his foot, but that doesnt mean them have better ideas than a average player who maybe have better ideas but he cant communicate good between his brain and his foot (im talking about neuroplasticity).

So when they become managers the good player lost all his advantadge because now its only pure knowledge and ideas, no more skills.
And the average player always have to made more tactical or learn more about correct position etc, to tape the fault of skills. So when he retire he can bring all that to the new players.

I dont know if im clear in my explanation but, if you play football at some level you can understand me.

I couldn't agree more. But there is also another ingredient and that's mentality. Xavi and Arteta had loads, they brought belief back to the squad, while aligning that with the club's values.

[tokeweed]

Yeah, I don't recall there ever being as tight a table as this season, from bottom to middle anyway, and it's been pretty much that way all season. I remember when Vieira and Gerrard arrived and most people thought it'd be a breath of fresh air to see such different ideas coming in. Was never meant to be, in the end.

Kompany next to come, and I hear a lot of chants for his name as Pep's successor but I don't think that would end well either.

People always think being a great player means you will become a great manager and it’s usually always not the case. Some of the greatest managers have been very average players. Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp. I guess you have Ancelotti and Pep who played at a high level.

Gerrard and Vieira will get another chance, I actually think sacking Vieira was harsh. Gerrard was doing badly at Villa so maybe deserved it.

Gerrard left Scotland too early imho or went in the EPL too early.  He should've went around and gained more experience from the different leagues in Europe.  He could've gone to France, Italy, Germany then England.  And funny you mention Guardiola...  During the last couple of years or so of his senior career as a player, he was already setting himself up to become a manager one day.  Check the last two clubs he played with.  He specifically chose those clubs because he wanted to learn from the managers of those clubs.

Vincent Kompany is turning out to be a decent manager with Burnley.  Let's see what he could do when they're in the EPL next season.

[darxiaomi]

I dont think Gerrard left too early Scotland, he had nearby to 200 games, and that league cant give more to learn to him, its more like a train league plus one hard game from time to time against Celtic, and a few good in Europe.

About Kompany, starts really good but lets see with bigger teams, its not easy to work with high egos of the stars.

[Igebotz]

I dont think Gerrard left too early Scotland, he had nearby to 200 games, and that league cant give more to learn to him, its more like a train league plus one hard game from time to time against Celtic, and a few good in Europe.

About Kompany, starts really good but lets see with bigger teams, its not easy to work with high egos of the stars.

Managing a championship club is the same as managing a top tie club in Scotland; Kompany is doing a good job, with no hype and a complete tactical job. Steven Gerrard left Rangers so quickly; it's common among English coaches; a few good games and the English media will start linking them to top tie jobs, putting pressure on an English team to hire them. Gerrard should have stayed in Scotland because he was not ready to move to a top-tier club at the time. He was having a fantastic season there with no pressure, just go out and win games.

Managing a player and motivating players are two aspects of management that Gerrard lacks.

[tokeweed]

I dont think Gerrard left too early Scotland, he had nearby to 200 games, and that league cant give more to learn to him, its more like a train league plus one hard game from time to time against Celtic, and a few good in Europe.

About Kompany, starts really good but lets see with bigger teams, its not easy to work with high egos of the stars.

I guess..  But still think he went to the EPL too early.  So did guys like Lampard.  Lol.  I thought Arteta was gonna follow but it seems like he learned a thing or two about club management from Guardiola.  I guess he'll be earmarked to be next Man City manager..?  Depending on what comes out of the whole cheating thing that is.  I'd rather see him stay and win stuff with the Gunners tbh.

As for Kompany...  True true.  I'd be following his progress nevertheless.

[darxiaomi]

Man i repeat he work for Rangers for nearly 4 years and coach them for 200 games, but for you he left Rangers so quickly?. I dont undestand your point of view in terms of duration, Rangers cant give to him anything else.

And also he made all the correct steps, he prepare himself 4 years in Rangers, and after that he went to a mid class team not to a bigger one. Maybe he is not so good as a manager but he prepare himself very well and patiently.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Managing a championship club is the same as managing a top tie club in Scotland; Kompany is doing a good job, with no hype and a complete tactical job. Steven Gerrard left Rangers so quickly; it's common among English coaches; a few good games and the English media will start linking them to top tie jobs, putting pressure on an English team to hire them. Gerrard should have stayed in Scotland because he was not ready to move to a top-tier club at the time. He was having a fantastic season there with no pressure, just go out and win games.

Managing a player and motivating players are two aspects of management that Gerrard lacks.

I see what you’re saying but what managerial qualifications did Guardiola have to get the Barcelona job? He went on to create and manage one of the greatest teams of all time.

I guess when a big job comes calling, old players with little experience will just take it. I guess they think the opportunity may not come again.

Gerrard was really poor at Villa, he deserved to lose his job. I don’t blame him for taking it initially though.

[Joca97]

Managing a championship club is the same as managing a top tie club in Scotland; Kompany is doing a good job, with no hype and a complete tactical job. Steven Gerrard left Rangers so quickly; it's common among English coaches; a few good games and the English media will start linking them to top tie jobs, putting pressure on an English team to hire them. Gerrard should have stayed in Scotland because he was not ready to move to a top-tier club at the time. He was having a fantastic season there with no pressure, just go out and win games.

Managing a player and motivating players are two aspects of management that Gerrard lacks.

I see what you’re saying but what managerial qualifications did Guardiola have to get the Barcelona job? He went on to create and manage one of the greatest teams of all time.

I guess when a big job comes calling, old players with little experience will just take it. I guess they think the opportunity may not come again.

Gerrard was really poor at Villa, he deserved to lose his job. I don’t blame him for taking it initially though.

For Gerrard this was a bad decision to go to such a weak club. He needed a bigger club so he could try and achive something bigger . With Villa it wasnt possible and now he will need to find a new club and after getting sacked it will take some time to find a good club that will take him.

[Harkorede]

Managing a championship club is the same as managing a top tie club in Scotland; Kompany is doing a good job, with no hype and a complete tactical job. Steven Gerrard left Rangers so quickly; it's common among English coaches; a few good games and the English media will start linking them to top tie jobs, putting pressure on an English team to hire them. Gerrard should have stayed in Scotland because he was not ready to move to a top-tier club at the time. He was having a fantastic season there with no pressure, just go out and win games.

Managing a player and motivating players are two aspects of management that Gerrard lacks.

I see what you’re saying but what managerial qualifications did Guardiola have to get the Barcelona job? He went on to create and manage one of the greatest teams of all time.

I guess when a big job comes calling, old players with little experience will just take it. I guess they think the opportunity may not come again.

Gerrard was really poor at Villa, he deserved to lose his job. I don’t blame him for taking it initially though.

For Gerrard this was a bad decision to go to such a weak club. He needed a bigger club so he could try and achive something bigger . With Villa it wasnt possible and now he will need to find a new club and after getting sacked it will take some time to find a good club that will take him.

I wouldn't say Aston Villa is too big a club for Steven Gerrard to manage, these are the kinds of managerial appointment that helps build a manager's experience and I also wouldn't say it was too early for to have left Rangers, he has gathered the needed experience, staying for 10 years or more at Rangers would not have helped him have a better idea about managing an English club, I guess this was his first real test as a manager, If Lampard could have being of Chelsea, then Gerrard is no less worthy to manage a team such as Aston Villa, he already has decent record as a Rangers, it was just about the right time to take a step further in his career.

[tokeweed]

Man i repeat he work for Rangers for nearly 4 years and coach them for 200 games, but for you he left Rangers so quickly?. I dont undestand your point of view in terms of duration, Rangers cant give to him anything else.

And also he made all the correct steps, he prepare himself 4 years in Rangers, and after that he went to a mid class team not to a bigger one. Maybe he is not so good as a manager but he prepare himself very well and patiently.

Relax bud..  Lol.  You're right.  And I think he had three years with the Rangers.  Please check.  But I just think he went to the EPL a tad too early.  And it showed as he was given the sack after just a year or so with Aston Villa.  It would've helped him gain more experience if he went to Italy then Germany then the EPL.  IMHO.  But what do I know...

Managing a championship club is the same as managing a top tie club in Scotland; Kompany is doing a good job, with no hype and a complete tactical job. Steven Gerrard left Rangers so quickly; it's common among English coaches; a few good games and the English media will start linking them to top tie jobs, putting pressure on an English team to hire them. Gerrard should have stayed in Scotland because he was not ready to move to a top-tier club at the time. He was having a fantastic season there with no pressure, just go out and win games.

Managing a player and motivating players are two aspects of management that Gerrard lacks.

I see what you’re saying but what managerial qualifications did Guardiola have to get the Barcelona job? He went on to create and manage one of the greatest teams of all time.

I guess when a big job comes calling, old players with little experience will just take it. I guess they think the opportunity may not come again.

Gerrard was really poor at Villa, he deserved to lose his job. I don’t blame him for taking it initially though.

Guardiola was a mix of skill, luck and the cash to back him up.  And Barca at the time had Txiki who backed Guardiola in whatever he wanted for the club.

[Igebotz]

Managing a championship club is the same as managing a top tie club in Scotland; Kompany is doing a good job, with no hype and a complete tactical job. Steven Gerrard left Rangers so quickly; it's common among English coaches; a few good games and the English media will start linking them to top tie jobs, putting pressure on an English team to hire them. Gerrard should have stayed in Scotland because he was not ready to move to a top-tier club at the time. He was having a fantastic season there with no pressure, just go out and win games.

Managing a player and motivating players are two aspects of management that Gerrard lacks.

I see what you’re saying but what managerial qualifications did Guardiola have to get the Barcelona job? He went on to create and manage one of the greatest teams of all time.

I guess when a big job comes calling, old players with little experience will just take it. I guess they think the opportunity may not come again.

Gerrard was really poor at Villa, he deserved to lose his job. I don’t blame him for taking it initially though.

I understand your point, but Pep was very successful with the Barcelona B team and went on to become the senior team coach to stick with the so-called Barcelona tikitaka style of play, and I would say Pep was quite lucky then because he inherited a world class team, he got all the tools he needed to be successful, and he took advantage of it.

If Lampard could have being of Chelsea, then Gerrard is no less worthy to manage a team such as Aston Villa, he already has decent record as a Rangers, it was just about the right time to take a step further in his career.

Sounding as if Lampard wasn't a failure at Chelsea both managers took the big step at the wrong time, they were both having the best time at their previous clubs, now both of them failed miserably and are back at home without a job.