#1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.

[Peeps Place]

Gogo- We can spend all day on this if I have to keep answering your questions with obvious answers.You seriously want to know why Pinnacle doesn't advertise SBOBitcoin at this time?

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[Gogo ppp]

Gogo- We can spend all day on this if I have to keep answering your questions with obvious answers.You seriously want to know why Pinnacle doesn't advertise SBOBitcoin?

You have a serious problem with reading comprehension.

I said nothing about Pinnacle having them listed.

I asked why the company they said they are a part of does not mention them on their website?
And why the agent division for the company they say they are a part of does not list them?

You continually avoid my questions and try to divert.

[Peeps Place]

If someone has a negative experience with SBOBitcoin as far as a payout or grading issue, then we will try to validate the complaint.

A responsible list of the books would attempt due diligence BEFORE there is a problem, not after.
This is something you refuse to do, and instead keep attempting to obfuscate.

Due diligence was done. A book is only as good as it's last payout. This may help to explain it.

Cascade. BetonSports. WSEX. Legends. All powerful brands in the sports betting world. All now gone, taking hundreds of thousands of dollars in post-up funds with them.

Bitcoin books have filled the void, but most do not have the long-term track record that inspires confidence. We aim to fill that void. The Ratings Guide will focus on these bitcoin sportsbooks. How quickly they pay out. How reliable they are. And how much trust one deserves.

Confidence is developed in many ways. Good customer service. Quick grading. Reliable websites that do not have downtime. And most important of all: quick, no-hassle payouts on demand.

This is a community effort. We need many voices to properly grade a book. Did you receive a payout less than an hour after your request? Let’s hear about it. Was your email ignored? That needs to be made public. Big problems all start out small. A sportsbook that handles the little fires will not see the bigger fires that can destroy the book.

Welcome to the Peeps Place.com Ratings Guide. We look forward to hearing from you.

[Peeps Place]

It's exactly what you said.

If they are tied to these companies, why aren't they mentioned on their websites?

Of course they aren't listed on Pinnacle's website.

[Peeps Place]

This is the most important part

This is a community effort. We need many voices to properly grade a book. Did you receive a payout less than an hour after your request? Let’s hear about it. Was your email ignored? That needs to be made public. Big problems all start out small. A sportsbook that handles the little fires will not see the bigger fires that can destroy the book.

[Gogo ppp]

It's exactly what you said.

If they are tied to these companies, why aren't they mentioned on their websites?

Of course they aren't listed on Pinnacle's website.

You misinterpreted what I wrote.

Gogo ppp - "Re: sbobitcoin.com:

First Cagayan apparently does the licensing of gambling operators in a section of the Philippines.

They list as one of their licensed operators OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LIMITED / OLE GROUP PHILIPPINES INC.

Ole Group lists one email address for contact. I sent them an email to simply ask the following:


1) Is sbobitcoin.com part of your company (OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LTD), as they advertise?

I2) If so, does this mean that sbobitcoin.com is under the licensing of the First Cagayan Leisure and Resort Corporation?

3) Should I use sbobitcoin.com as agents and for any reason they should go out of business, disappear, go bankrupt, be slow in allowing withdrawals of deposited funds, etc. - will OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LTD stand behind them and make good on any financial problems such as described?


The email delivery immediately failed:

"Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:

enquiries@oleintl.com (enquiries@oleintl.com)
Your message can't be delivered because delivery to this address is restricted."


There is no other email address listed on the site and no phone number listed anywhere on the site.


Ole Group's website lists "Featured Affiliate Link" to  7Bet-Sports.com and 7Bet-Agents.com.
Those are the only 2 listings. There is no mention of sbobitcoin.com.
Perhaps sbobitcoin.com is an affiliated sub-agent or a branch of this company (although there is no mention of them on either website).

I've made 3 email attempts to reach 7Bet asking whether sbobitcoin.com is affiliated with their company.

I've received no response.

There is only one email address listed and no phone number listed."


I was asking why sbobitcoin.com is not listed on the website of the company they state affiliation with - OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LTD.?

And why that company lists an agent division but does not mention sbobitcoin.com?

And why the websites of that company's agent division does not mention sbobitcoin.com?


Why don't you do your due diligence now and try to help verify the connections they state?

[Peeps Place]

I asked why the company they said they are a part of does not mention them on their website?
And why the agent division for the company they say they are a part of does not list them?

you have to be joking.

I apologize to all for argumentative tone but got caught up in Gogo's false accusations and misquotes.

[jeremypwr]

Bitbook is a crock of shit and they know I was hacked. 

[fantasycoin]

iv only used bitbook so far and didnt have any troubles but im a noob.

[Gogo ppp]

I asked why the company they said they are a part of does not mention them on their website?
And why the agent division for the company they say they are a part of does not list them?

you have to be joking.

I apologize to all for argumentative tone but got caught up in Gogo's false accusations and misquotes.

"you have to be joking."


Ole Group's website lists "Featured Affiliate Link" to  7Bet-Sports.com and 7Bet-Agents.com.
Those are the only 2 listings. There is no mention of sbobitcoin.com.

Sbobitcoin.com states that they are a part of OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LIMITED / OLE GROUP PHILIPPINES INC.

That company lists an agent division on their website - 7Bet-Agents.com.


Ole Group Int'l. and 7Bet-Agents make no mention of sbobitcoin.com

I am asking why?

I've tried to investigate myself to verify the claimed ties to these companies.
One is unreachable, the other does not respond.


Peeps Place - "...Gogo's false accusations ..."

I'm not sure what you're referring to, but at any rate, instead of attacking me, why aren't you joining in and attempting to verify sbobitcoin's claimed associations, as I am?

[Peeps Place]

Gogo- An affiliate and agent are two different things.

[Peeps Place]

Thanks for some of the input above on Bitbook. We are getting back on track.

[jeremypwr]

iv only used bitbook so far and didnt have any troubles but im a noob.

Yeah you also registered TODAY just to post a defense for Bitbook and their shady business practice.

So no one cares about what you think

[jeremypwr]

Thanks for some of the input above on Bitbook. We are getting back on track.

Hello Peeps Place,

Thank you for all your feedback with the sportsbooks.  I am not a scammer nor a liar and Bitbook knows it.  This is a very shady business practice and I HIGHLY DOUBT someone could hack my account.  Now that I've been putting more and more thought into it and exchanging comments with other members on here, I'm convinced they just want me out.

I'm not going anywhere.  I was robbed by this business

[Gogo ppp]

Peeps Place - "Because SBObitcoin has been so prevalent on the forums ..."

Are you referring to bettors who used them posting about the experience, or to Sbotbitcoin making posts about their service?

If the former, where can I find those posts?

[Peeps Place]

Peeps Place - "Because SBObitcoin has been so prevalent on the forums ..."

Are you referring to bettors who used them posting about the experience, or to Sbotbitcoin making posts about their service?

If the former, where can I find those posts?

SBOBitcoin also has a presence in post up gambling forums. Most bitcoin books have stuck to bitcoin forums for the most part.

[Peeps Place]

In my opinion, bitcoin sports books will supplant post up books. Bitcoin books are far superior as far as pay outs. My feeling is that the post up forums do not want to take on advertising from bitcoin books. They know this will erode advertising from the post up books.

[Peeps Place]

Coinbet stuck their neck out with advertising on the Reuters board in Times Square. The backlash from this will have a lot to say for the future of bitcoin gambling. Coinbet is very well funded and seems to be taking the lead for the American market. I don't think it will be long before legislature will make a decision on bitcoin gambling in the US.

[Charlie Robert]

Dear Gogo,

Thank you for all the rating and comprehension within the threads, all comments are appreciated. So gladly with the chance to answer those question that you may misunderstand.
1. Yes, SBOBitcoin is part of Ole Group international Ltd

2. SBOBitcoin.com is subsidiary of Ole Group International which is licensed and regulated by First Cagayan, so that means SBOBitcoin.com is licensed by First Cayagan as well.
(http://www.firstcagayan.com/operators.php)

3. Yes definitely, Ole Group International Ltd will stand behind all the subsidiaries like SBOBitcoin.com and cover all the problems would be including financial problem.
Customer trust is no.1 goal for us.

Sorry for the inconvinient for the enquiries email form at ole group international, we will improve this technical issue in shortly. But actually, you can send this email (enquiries@oleintl.com) directly instead of via the web form.

7bet-Agents.com and sbobitcoin.com are another affiliate Division from Ole Group International, in different target market country and currency.
sbobitcoin.com is an agent for opening sportsbook account with renowned market leader like SBOBET, IBCBET and Pinnacle. Hopefully, this announce will clear things out and If have any inquiry or question, feel free to reach our 24/7 customer service via sbobitcoin.com or email us info@sbobitcoin.com.

Thank You

Best Regards,
Charlie Robert
Assistant Marketing and Business Development
Ole Group International
























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[CoinBet]

Coinbet stuck their neck out with advertising on the Reuters board in Times Square. The backlash from this will have a lot to say for the future of bitcoin gambling. Coinbet is very well funded and seems to be taking the lead for the American market. I don't think it will be long before legislature will make a decision on bitcoin gambling in the US.

Oh sure, blame us!



Legislative process is not fast, but I do agree that government bodies (in the US and otherwise) are going to have to say once and for all either bitcoin is NOT legal tender/legal currency, or it is, and if they say it is, then it will change the entire landscape of bitcoin gambling, and not for the better IMHO. Unfortunately, the bitcoin community is not doing much in the way of lobbying these various entities (though it should be!) and is very divided on the issue. Some bitcoin enthusiasts want regulation and the designation as a legal currency, and others do not.