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March 02, 2014, 07:47:46 PM
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It seems that the wallet has to be open all the time to recieve 20% reward?

I have mined 24/7 since day 2 and had the wallet open all the time.
Since PoS kicked in i recieve about 100 coins an hour .
All fine so far.
But last night i closed the wallet for about 10 hours and today i have had it open all day again but for those hours i had it closed i have not recieved any coins, still only the same 100 coins per hour. Nothing for the time it was closed.

Maybe its too short time to tell? As i understand it its not the coins but the coinage that generate stake so 10 hours may not be noticeable....

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March 02, 2014, 07:49:11 PM
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so POS is that you just keep coins in your wallet and you get more coins???

Thats right Wink
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March 02, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
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Turds and Trolls Worth Ignoring

1. ManOnTheMoon
2. GingerMod
3. thisisit
Already ignored 3 out of 4 of these. Thanks for the 4th!
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I've only noticed those 3. Can't comment on Phillip.

Ironically they are helping us keep this thread at the top of the page. Cheers trolls.
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March 02, 2014, 07:52:59 PM
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It seems that the wallet has to be open all the time to recieve 20% reward?

I have mined 24/7 since day 2 and had the wallet open all the time.
Since PoS kicked in i recieve about 100 coins an hour .
All fine so far.
But last night i closed the wallet for about 10 hours and today i have had it open all day again but for those hours i had it closed i have not recieved any coins, still only the same 100 coins per hour. Nothing for the time it was closed.

Maybe its too short time to tell? As i understand it its not the coins but the coinage that generate stake so 10 hours may not be noticeable....


Yes it has to be open/online for it to mint new coins. You can keep it off for several days and then turn it back on for short intervals if you want. Your coin age will accumulate and you will receive faster payouts.
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March 02, 2014, 07:53:03 PM
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so POS is that you just keep coins in your wallet and you get more coins???

Yes, got this from the OP. make sure you set it up right. Prices are cheap so grab few  Grin
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FAQ
1.What is PoS?
PoS: Proof of Stake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake

2. what is the line Stake in wallet?
It is for the PoS blocks. Once a PoS block generated, some of your coins plus the generated interests will be moved to "stake", it is like "immature" for PoW. It will take 50 confirmations to mature, after mature the coins plus interests will be added back to your balance.

3. what does that mean in the wallet : Minting suspended due to locked wallet?
This says you can not do mining due to wallet encrypted.
you need to unlock the wallet in order to mine (for example for PoS blocks):
mintcoin-qt -server
mintcoind walletpassphrase <passphrase> <unlock_duration_in_seconds> true
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March 02, 2014, 07:56:32 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497029.0

[Analysis] Mintcoin – The rise and fall

As I am following MINT for quite a while, I want to give an analysis on this coin.

I will talk about following topics
1) Concept
2) Launch
3) Premine
4) Mintpal
5) Rise
6) Fall
7) Conclusion

Facts
1) Concept
The coin has a fast distribution with 100000 – 900000 block reward at the beginning, halving each weak, until it reaches 1 block reward after 5th week. After 20 days proof of stake kicks in and you can generate coins by so called minting. You will get interests of 20% in first year, 15% 2nd year and so on. As you can see, this coin will reward the early birds with a huge amount of coins and these owners will get exponentially richer by the PoS.
2) Launch
It was not a coincidence, that the the launch was scheduled on the very same day as Maxcoin. When the whole altcoin world was focussing on Max Keiser and his struggling coin launch, people started mining MINT without any trouble and low hashrate getting tons of coins.
3) Premine
There is a 1% premine of 700 million coins, which is effectively a premine > 3%, if you consider proof of stake. The developer keeps silent about the use of the premine, even though some people promoting the coin have received a few coins. If you look it up at the block explorer, you will clearly see, that the whole (!) premine has been already moved http://mintcoin-explorer.info/address/MpkWtkFfAUgSumHeTRP1XAW2bGMJQYQ6Ud
4) Mintpal
The Mintpal exchange was available directly after launch, it’s probably no coincidence that the name Mint is in the exchange’s name. For a new exchange Mintpal is surprisingly well designed and nice to handle.

Analysis
These were the facts, now I will give an analysis with some guesses, which might be or might not be true.
5) Rise
This coin is designed to get hyped, fast distribution following a scarcity. I would guess, that Mintpal is owned by the very same person / team who developed MINT. 
The coin was traded for 4 to 8 satoshis at the beginning, when after two weeks this coin got hyped over night. During one weekend the price shot from 8 to 60 satoshis with a trading volume of over 2000 bitcoins at Mintpal. Cryptsy decided to add it immediately, faster than any other coin I know of. But how could a coin unknown get a trading volume of over 1 million dollars? It is obvious that someone pumped this one to create a hype, everybody was following. If you assume a mean of 20 satoshis for one MINT, 2000 bitcoins equals 1 000 000 000 MINT. Who could possibly have so many mints to buy/sell?
The hype had two big effects:
   - Mintcoin got famous over night and a lot of people jumped on the MINT train.
   - Mintpal got big. Even though the wolong panda was traded successfully there, Mintpal had it’s breakthrough. It’s obvious that the owner is getting a lot of profit, as a lot of coins are added and traded now there.
6) Fall
A lot of people bought in when the price was 40, hoping this is the new doge reaching heights of 200 satoshis. The truth is that after the peak of 60, and a 2nd peak of 45, the value of coin was slowly decreasing. Compare this MINT graph
http://coinmarketcap.com/mint_30.html
to this pump & dump graph
http://robertnielsen21.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/ci6rr.jpg
Looks damn similar, doesn’t it?
After twenty days the so called minting kicked in, as this is a PoS coin, people are tempted to hold their coins for 20 days to get the interest. After the initial pump, some people can sell off their coins slowly, when people are sitting on their coins.
The developer of the coin mentioned here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5449543#msg5449543 that he will add a MINT/USD exchange, when the community contributes 5 million MINT. But wait? Doesn’t he own a 700 million premine? Isn’t the premine considered to be for exactly these kind of things. If you consider PoS, he could have minted 5 million in no time.
This is just a guess, but as the dev refuses to tell us about the whereabouts of the premine, I wasn’t surprised, if he has already sold off all his coins during the pump. When the price was stable at 40 sat, I saw people selling of millions of coins into a 39 BTC wall. Currently this coin is already at 20 sat continuing its downward trend since peak.

Conclusion
There is no pump without a dump and people losing money. As good as MINT sounded at first, look at the graphs now and tell me, if you would consider buying mintcoins now? The people believing in this coin are people who bought in at 40 sat and people from the very start owning tons of coins. 20% PoS in one year isn’t worth anything, if the coin has no value anymore in the fast life of altcoins. A lot of people made money by selling the coins bit by bit after the pump, when others were holding for minting and better times. The developer refuses to tell us about the 1%, effectively >3% 700 million premine, begging for 5 million coins, when the premine wallet is already at 0 MINT http://mintcoin-explorer.info/address/MpkWtkFfAUgSumHeTRP1XAW2bGMJQYQ6Ud Everytime the coin was on rise, somebody dropped a huge amount of coins to make some profit. People who bought in high are still waiting for the next pump, but truth be said, I don’t think this coin will reach these heights anymore. And if it rises it will be a mere pump of agony.
It’s hard to sell the coins now with all the losses, but I for myself sold off.
I know a lot of people are working hard for this coin and I appreciate this, but as long as the developer keeps silent about the premine’s whereabouts, this coin has no future for many investors and myself.
All this said, I still might be wrong, so good luck for anybody still believing in this coin. I wish you all the best.

Sincerely
221b

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March 02, 2014, 08:07:02 PM
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I just loved scrolling through last pages. Kids panicing how price is going down and coin is going to die.
You amuze me and i thank you for that.
I also want to give a big hug to the one who gave me hes mint with 17 satoshis.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497029.0

[Analysis] Mintcoin – The rise and fall

As I am following MINT for quite a while, I want to give an analysis on this coin.

I will talk about following topics
1) Concept
2) Launch
3) Premine
4) Mintpal
5) Rise
6) Fall
7) Conclusion

Facts
1) Concept
The coin has a fast distribution with 100000 – 900000 block reward at the beginning, halving each weak, until it reaches 1 block reward after 5th week. After 20 days proof of stake kicks in and you can generate coins by so called minting. You will get interests of 20% in first year, 15% 2nd year and so on. As you can see, this coin will reward the early birds with a huge amount of coins and these owners will get exponentially richer by the PoS.
2) Launch
It was not a coincidence, that the the launch was scheduled on the very same day as Maxcoin. When the whole altcoin world was focussing on Max Keiser and his struggling coin launch, people started mining MINT without any trouble and low hashrate getting tons of coins.
3) Premine
There is a 1% premine of 700 million coins, which is effectively a premine > 3%, if you consider proof of stake. The developer keeps silent about the use of the premine, even though some people promoting the coin have received a few coins. If you look it up at the block explorer, you will clearly see, that the whole (!) premine has been already moved http://mintcoin-explorer.info/address/MpkWtkFfAUgSumHeTRP1XAW2bGMJQYQ6Ud
4) Mintpal
The Mintpal exchange was available directly after launch, it’s probably no coincidence that the name Mint is in the exchange’s name. For a new exchange Mintpal is surprisingly well designed and nice to handle.

Analysis
These were the facts, now I will give an analysis with some guesses, which might be or might not be true.
5) Rise
This coin is designed to get hyped, fast distribution following a scarcity. I would guess, that Mintpal is owned by the very same person / team who developed MINT. 
The coin was traded for 4 to 8 satoshis at the beginning, when after two weeks this coin got hyped over night. During one weekend the price shot from 8 to 60 satoshis with a trading volume of over 2000 bitcoins at Mintpal. Cryptsy decided to add it immediately, faster than any other coin I know of. But how could a coin unknown get a trading volume of over 1 million dollars? It is obvious that someone pumped this one to create a hype, everybody was following. If you assume a mean of 20 satoshis for one MINT, 2000 bitcoins equals 1 000 000 000 MINT. Who could possibly have so many mints to buy/sell?
The hype had two big effects:
   - Mintcoin got famous over night and a lot of people jumped on the MINT train.
   - Mintpal got big. Even though the wolong panda was traded successfully there, Mintpal had it’s breakthrough. It’s obvious that the owner is getting a lot of profit, as a lot of coins are added and traded now there.
6) Fall
A lot of people bought in when the price was 40, hoping this is the new doge reaching heights of 200 satoshis. The truth is that after the peak of 60, and a 2nd peak of 45, the value of coin was slowly decreasing. Compare this MINT graph
http://coinmarketcap.com/mint_30.html
to this pump & dump graph
http://robertnielsen21.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/ci6rr.jpg
Looks damn similar, doesn’t it?
After twenty days the so called minting kicked in, as this is a PoS coin, people are tempted to hold their coins for 20 days to get the interest. After the initial pump, some people can sell off their coins slowly, when people are sitting on their coins.
The developer of the coin mentioned here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5449543#msg5449543 that he will add a MINT/USD exchange, when the community contributes 5 million MINT. But wait? Doesn’t he own a 700 million premine? Isn’t the premine considered to be for exactly these kind of things. If you consider PoS, he could have minted 5 million in no time.
This is just a guess, but as the dev refuses to tell us about the whereabouts of the premine, I wasn’t surprised, if he has already sold off all his coins during the pump. When the price was stable at 40 sat, I saw people selling of millions of coins into a 39 BTC wall. Currently this coin is already at 20 sat continuing its downward trend since peak.

Conclusion
There is no pump without a dump and people losing money. As good as MINT sounded at first, look at the graphs now and tell me, if you would consider buying mintcoins now? The people believing in this coin are people who bought in at 40 sat and people from the very start owning tons of coins. 20% PoS in one year isn’t worth anything, if the coin has no value anymore in the fast life of altcoins. A lot of people made money by selling the coins bit by bit after the pump, when others were holding for minting and better times. The developer refuses to tell us about the 1%, effectively >3% 700 million premine, begging for 5 million coins, when the premine wallet is already at 0 MINT http://mintcoin-explorer.info/address/MpkWtkFfAUgSumHeTRP1XAW2bGMJQYQ6Ud Everytime the coin was on rise, somebody dropped a huge amount of coins to make some profit. People who bought in high are still waiting for the next pump, but truth be said, I don’t think this coin will reach these heights anymore. And if it rises it will be a mere pump of agony.
It’s hard to sell the coins now with all the losses, but I for myself sold off.
I know a lot of people are working hard for this coin and I appreciate this, but as long as the developer keeps silent about the premine’s whereabouts, this coin has no future for many investors and myself.
All this said, I still might be wrong, so good luck for anybody still believing in this coin. I wish you all the best.

Sincerely
221b



Exactly my thoughts  Grin
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March 02, 2014, 08:08:24 PM
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I just loved scrolling through last pages. Kids panicing how price is going down and coin is going to die.
You amuze me and i thank you for that.
I also want to give a big hug to the one who gave me hes mint with 17 satoshis.

You are welcome   Wink
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March 02, 2014, 08:10:22 PM
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I still belive in the coin. I did not invest anything except the power of my small farm and for that i have paid out with half of my MINT balance.
The rest i will keep and try to help this coin and its community to grow.
I do not know the dev's personaly but i just do not think that they have sold the pre-mine.
Why would they bother answering to anyone ( and yes i do message them and they do answer when they have time ) ? Why would they try to make a new wallet ? Why would they keep working on the coin at all ?
So i do not think that they are dumping the coin and going to the next project. I might be wrong but time will tell very soon.
For me i know that i like the coin and the community so i will support it and try to do what i can.

And one more time - if everything is good with the dev's, and i think we will know about that in the next 10 days, its the community that makes a coin strong. So whoever wants to see THIS coin grow, just spend a bit more time helping out then discussing the trolls and panicing Smiley

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March 02, 2014, 08:12:08 PM
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So I sent some coins from my wallet to mintpal over an hour ago and it still hasn't shown up in mintpal. The transaction has 239 confirmations with 6 nodes. I don't know what that means but thought it could be useful. Do I have any reason to worry?
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March 02, 2014, 08:12:13 PM
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Is this really true? Mintcoin will be the first coin to implement PoS? What about Graincoin? What about Blackcoin?

What advantages does MINT have over the 2?

Pure PoS you asshat... . . . . .

Yup, funny how he skipped over what I actually said, successfully implement. Clear agenda, or 1st degree burns, who knows.
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Is Credits a good idea? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=496685.0)
Mintcoin is starting to crumble, I'm looking for something sustainable.
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So I sent some coins from my wallet to mintpal over an hour ago and it still hasn't shown up in mintpal. The transaction has 239 confirmations with 6 nodes. I don't know what that means but thought it could be useful. Do I have any reason to worry?

Same here bud! just arrived
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Is Credits a good idea? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=496685.0)
Mintcoin is starting to crumble, I'm looking for something sustainable.

Just recently came across this coin, surprisingly promising
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March 02, 2014, 08:25:56 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497029.0

[Analysis] Mintcoin – The rise and fall

As I am following MINT for quite a while, I want to give an analysis on this coin.

I will talk about following topics
1) Concept
2) Launch
3) Premine
4) Mintpal
5) Rise
6) Fall
7) Conclusion

Facts
1) Concept
The coin has a fast distribution with 100000 – 900000 block reward at the beginning, halving each weak, until it reaches 1 block reward after 5th week. After 20 days proof of stake kicks in and you can generate coins by so called minting. You will get interests of 20% in first year, 15% 2nd year and so on. As you can see, this coin will reward the early birds with a huge amount of coins and these owners will get exponentially richer by the PoS.
2) Launch
It was not a coincidence, that the the launch was scheduled on the very same day as Maxcoin. When the whole altcoin world was focussing on Max Keiser and his struggling coin launch, people started mining MINT without any trouble and low hashrate getting tons of coins.
3) Premine
There is a 1% premine of 700 million coins, which is effectively a premine > 3%, if you consider proof of stake. The developer keeps silent about the use of the premine, even though some people promoting the coin have received a few coins. If you look it up at the block explorer, you will clearly see, that the whole (!) premine has been already moved http://mintcoin-explorer.info/address/MpkWtkFfAUgSumHeTRP1XAW2bGMJQYQ6Ud
4) Mintpal
The Mintpal exchange was available directly after launch, it’s probably no coincidence that the name Mint is in the exchange’s name. For a new exchange Mintpal is surprisingly well designed and nice to handle.

Analysis
These were the facts, now I will give an analysis with some guesses, which might be or might not be true.
5) Rise
This coin is designed to get hyped, fast distribution following a scarcity. I would guess, that Mintpal is owned by the very same person / team who developed MINT. 
The coin was traded for 4 to 8 satoshis at the beginning, when after two weeks this coin got hyped over night. During one weekend the price shot from 8 to 60 satoshis with a trading volume of over 2000 bitcoins at Mintpal. Cryptsy decided to add it immediately, faster than any other coin I know of. But how could a coin unknown get a trading volume of over 1 million dollars? It is obvious that someone pumped this one to create a hype, everybody was following. If you assume a mean of 20 satoshis for one MINT, 2000 bitcoins equals 1 000 000 000 MINT. Who could possibly have so many mints to buy/sell?
The hype had two big effects:
   - Mintcoin got famous over night and a lot of people jumped on the MINT train.
   - Mintpal got big. Even though the wolong panda was traded successfully there, Mintpal had it’s breakthrough. It’s obvious that the owner is getting a lot of profit, as a lot of coins are added and traded now there.
6) Fall
A lot of people bought in when the price was 40, hoping this is the new doge reaching heights of 200 satoshis. The truth is that after the peak of 60, and a 2nd peak of 45, the value of coin was slowly decreasing. Compare this MINT graph
http://coinmarketcap.com/mint_30.html
to this pump & dump graph
http://robertnielsen21.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/ci6rr.jpg
Looks damn similar, doesn’t it?
After twenty days the so called minting kicked in, as this is a PoS coin, people are tempted to hold their coins for 20 days to get the interest. After the initial pump, some people can sell off their coins slowly, when people are sitting on their coins.
The developer of the coin mentioned here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5449543#msg5449543 that he will add a MINT/USD exchange, when the community contributes 5 million MINT. But wait? Doesn’t he own a 700 million premine? Isn’t the premine considered to be for exactly these kind of things. If you consider PoS, he could have minted 5 million in no time.
This is just a guess, but as the dev refuses to tell us about the whereabouts of the premine, I wasn’t surprised, if he has already sold off all his coins during the pump. When the price was stable at 40 sat, I saw people selling of millions of coins into a 39 BTC wall. Currently this coin is already at 20 sat continuing its downward trend since peak.

Conclusion
There is no pump without a dump and people losing money. As good as MINT sounded at first, look at the graphs now and tell me, if you would consider buying mintcoins now? The people believing in this coin are people who bought in at 40 sat and people from the very start owning tons of coins. 20% PoS in one year isn’t worth anything, if the coin has no value anymore in the fast life of altcoins. A lot of people made money by selling the coins bit by bit after the pump, when others were holding for minting and better times. The developer refuses to tell us about the 1%, effectively >3% 700 million premine, begging for 5 million coins, when the premine wallet is already at 0 MINT http://mintcoin-explorer.info/address/MpkWtkFfAUgSumHeTRP1XAW2bGMJQYQ6Ud Everytime the coin was on rise, somebody dropped a huge amount of coins to make some profit. People who bought in high are still waiting for the next pump, but truth be said, I don’t think this coin will reach these heights anymore. And if it rises it will be a mere pump of agony.
It’s hard to sell the coins now with all the losses, but I for myself sold off.
I know a lot of people are working hard for this coin and I appreciate this, but as long as the developer keeps silent about the premine’s whereabouts, this coin has no future for many investors and myself.
All this said, I still might be wrong, so good luck for anybody still believing in this coin. I wish you all the best.

Sincerely
221b



I followed some of the addresses you posted from the 700,000,000 and it looks like they broke it up into smaller chunks and transferred each chunk to a unique address. Transparency would really be nice so that we don't have rampant speculation and fear like it is causing. Really unfortunate.
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March 02, 2014, 08:28:25 PM
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I have said that and nobody was listening, hahahahahaha.

In Pump and Dump we trust.
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March 02, 2014, 08:33:26 PM
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TO THE DEVS

If you really believe in this coin and want to see it succeed and plan to support it in the long term, please tell us what you have done so far with the premine!

Since so many are so concerned about this premine i fear the coin is going to fail unless you start being transparent about it....

And that would really be a shame if such a great concept would fail because of it

Mintcoin: MsFGc9atNN6DddEsQHiq7MgDieoSLwtmg5
InformationCoin: Je4ZhmQBSd68oZ7CeXWMrWEsyprTXAVFuX
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March 02, 2014, 08:40:23 PM
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Now the website is down: http://mintcoin.cc/

nice!
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March 02, 2014, 08:42:35 PM
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TO THE DEVS

If you really believe in this coin and want to see it succeed and plan to support it in the long term, please tell us what you have done so far with the premine!

Since so many are so concerned about this premine i fear the coin is going to fail unless you start being transparent about it....

And that would really be a shame if such a great concept would fail because of it

There is only one dev (mintcointeam) although there is a huge team doing all sorts of things. The original dev is the only one with the premine and he never talks in this thread, or even on the forums really. You're right, it may end up killing the coin.
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