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August 16, 2015, 07:37:31 AM
Last edit: August 16, 2015, 08:05:49 AM by depboy
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0.9.2.16.  Let's Get This Done!

Some Brief Background

A little over a month ago, 8bitcoder proposed some changes to be incorporated into the next release - 0.9.2.16.  There was some lively discussion about the proposed changes, and broadly speaking a community consensus was reached on them.

Then, inexplicably, 8bitcoder went to ground.  For the past month there's been no activity on his accounts on reddit, bitcointalk or github.

Has he "gone satoshi" on us?

What next for Myriad ?

A month is a long time in crypto.  During that period, Myriad has been adrift in an ever increasing sea of shitcoins.  The silence in the subreddit and bitcointalk thread has been deafening.  Things have stagnated.

We can no longer continue to collectively sit on our hands and wait for 8 bit to return sometime/maybe/never.

The good news is that, prior to departing on his open-ended summer vacation, 8bit committed all the code for the proposed changes to the dev branch on github.  Yesterday I cloned the dev branch to create the following fresh repository:

https://github.com/depboy/myriad

We can use this repository to go ahead with the 0.9.2.16 release.  0.9.2.16 will include a hard fork at block 1400000 (a little under 3 weeks from now), to make the following changes:

1 - Implement auxpow and enable for sha and scrypt algos

This will make the ASIC algos to be merge minable.  The benefits should be improved network security and a more even distribution of blocks found on these algos.  AFAIK, Myriad will be the first to be part auxpow, and simultaneously be both a parent and merged.

2 - Increase block time from 30s to 60s

This one seemed to have popular support so I've included it.  Note that it does nothing to affect the overall supply of MYR.  All this does is slow down the emission rate.

3 - Modify the chain work calculation to use a geometric mean instead of an arithmetic mean across algos.

There are security advantages to using this method, as previously proposed by MentalCollatz.

4.  Change all instances of Myriadcoin to Myriad, to drop the "coin" from the name.  

I've made this change in a subtle effort to differentiate Myriad as more than "just another coin".

With the exception of number 4, I've tried as far as possible to reflect the consensus that was reached a month ago.  None of them are absolutely set in stone, and further discussion may well be sensible.

Full Disclosure

I want to make it crystal clear that this is absolutely not about executing some kind of mutinous dev takeover in the absence of 8bit.  I am very definitely NOT a dev!  I'm proud to admit that I can't code for shit.  Credit for the coding involved in the changes belongs to 8bitcoder and nzsquirrell.  I have merely reproduced their code in a fresh repository to enable the update to go ahead in 8bit's absence.

I sincerely hope that in the near future, 8bit will return to be an active Myriad dev.  By making a community effort to get the release out in his absence, we will be demonstrating our resilience.  Truly decentralized currency has to be bigger than one dev.

To Do List

Any hard fork requires careful planning and preparation.  This one will also present a couple of extra challenges.  Off the top of my head, the following items need to be taken care of:

1.  Code review and tweaking.  

For example, one task I haven't yet undertaken is a comprehensive search for other auxpow coins on sha & scrypt, and their chain IDs.  If we want to make Myriad as widely mined as possible, and avoid clashing with other merged coins, I believe we need to specify unique chain IDs?

2.  Binaries.  I confess I've never succeeded in compiling the source code on anything other than unix.  So, we need some longstanding members of the community to step up and compile Windows and OS X binaries.

3.  Update our wallets and nodes ASAP.  For most of us, this will require item 2 to be completed first.

4.  Reach out to exchanges and mining pools to inform them of the upcoming hardfork.  This is something that we've fallen down on in the past.  This time round, we'll have the added challenge of the release not coming from the "official" repository.  I expect a concerted community effort will be required.

5.  Get the word out more generally.  Can we get a post stickied on the subreddit?  Does anyone other than 8bit (neuromode?) have the means to edit the OP on the bitcointalk thread?  

This item needs to be more than just an extension of number 4.  It should be about getting our act together generally, and properly rebranding to Myriad.  No small task.  Almost a re-launch to spark some fresh interest.  Maybe a new tagline?  "a coin for everyone" >>> Huh.  How about "myriad - the peoples' money?"

The time has come to stop flying under the radar.

EDIT: It looks like nzsquirrell is on board with this and has forked the myriadcoin repository to https://github.com/myriadteam/myriadcoin. Given that he's far more technically gifted than me, it's probably sensible that we work with his new repository instead of the one I created above.
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August 16, 2015, 11:34:35 AM
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Yes! Some movement at last - kudos to you. All that was needed was a little kick up the backside by someone to get things going again, well done for taking the initiative  Grin Looking forward to seeing where this goes now......
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August 16, 2015, 11:40:16 AM
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0.9.2.16.  Let's Get This Done!

Some Brief Background

A little over a month ago, 8bitcoder proposed some changes to be incorporated into the next release - 0.9.2.16.  There was some lively discussion about the proposed changes, and broadly speaking a community consensus was reached on them.

Then, inexplicably, 8bitcoder went to ground.  For the past month there's been no activity on his accounts on reddit, bitcointalk or github.

Has he "gone satoshi" on us?

What next for Myriad ?

A month is a long time in crypto.  During that period, Myriad has been adrift in an ever increasing sea of shitcoins.  The silence in the subreddit and bitcointalk thread has been deafening.  Things have stagnated.

We can no longer continue to collectively sit on our hands and wait for 8 bit to return sometime/maybe/never.

The good news is that, prior to departing on his open-ended summer vacation, 8bit committed all the code for the proposed changes to the dev branch on github.  Yesterday I cloned the dev branch to create the following fresh repository:

https://github.com/depboy/myriad

We can use this repository to go ahead with the 0.9.2.16 release.  0.9.2.16 will include a hard fork at block 1400000 (a little under 3 weeks from now), to make the following changes:

1 - Implement auxpow and enable for sha and scrypt algos

This will make the ASIC algos to be merge minable.  The benefits should be improved network security and a more even distribution of blocks found on these algos.  AFAIK, Myriad will be the first to be part auxpow, and simultaneously be both a parent and merged.

2 - Increase block time from 30s to 60s

This one seemed to have popular support so I've included it.  Note that it does nothing to affect the overall supply of MYR.  All this does is slow down the emission rate.

3 - Modify the chain work calculation to use a geometric mean instead of an arithmetic mean across algos.

There are security advantages to using this method, as previously proposed by MentalCollatz.

4.  Change all instances of Myriadcoin to Myriad, to drop the "coin" from the name.  

I've made this change in a subtle effort to differentiate Myriad as more than "just another coin".

With the exception of number 4, I've tried as far as possible to reflect the consensus that was reached a month ago.  None of them are absolutely set in stone, and further discussion may well be sensible.

Full Disclosure

I want to make it crystal clear that this is absolutely not about executing some kind of mutinous dev takeover in the absence of 8bit.  I am very definitely NOT a dev!  I'm proud to admit that I can't code for shit.  Credit for the coding involved in the changes belongs to 8bitcoder and nzsquirrell.  I have merely reproduced their code in a fresh repository to enable the update to go ahead in 8bit's absence.

I sincerely hope that in the near future, 8bit will return to be an active Myriad dev.  By making a community effort to get the release out in his absence, we will be demonstrating our resilience.  Truly decentralized currency has to be bigger than one dev.

To Do List

Any hard fork requires careful planning and preparation.  This one will also present a couple of extra challenges.  Off the top of my head, the following items need to be taken care of:

1.  Code review and tweaking.  

For example, one task I haven't yet undertaken is a comprehensive search for other auxpow coins on sha & scrypt, and their chain IDs.  If we want to make Myriad as widely mined as possible, and avoid clashing with other merged coins, I believe we need to specify unique chain IDs?

2.  Binaries.  I confess I've never succeeded in compiling the source code on anything other than unix.  So, we need some longstanding members of the community to step up and compile Windows and OS X binaries.

3.  Update our wallets and nodes ASAP.  For most of us, this will require item 2 to be completed first.

4.  Reach out to exchanges and mining pools to inform them of the upcoming hardfork.  This is something that we've fallen down on in the past.  This time round, we'll have the added challenge of the release not coming from the "official" repository.  I expect a concerted community effort will be required.

5.  Get the word out more generally.  Can we get a post stickied on the subreddit?  Does anyone other than 8bit (neuromode?) have the means to edit the OP on the bitcointalk thread?  

This item needs to be more than just an extension of number 4.  It should be about getting our act together generally, and properly rebranding to Myriad.  No small task.  Almost a re-launch to spark some fresh interest.  Maybe a new tagline?  "a coin for everyone" >>> Huh.  How about "myriad - the peoples' money?"

The time has come to stop flying under the radar.

EDIT: It looks like nzsquirrell is on board with this and has forked the myriadcoin repository to https://github.com/myriadteam/myriadcoin. Given that he's far more technically gifted than me, it's probably sensible that we work with his new repository instead of the one I created above.

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August 16, 2015, 03:18:48 PM
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* jwinterm is ready to update client to 0.9.2.16 coded by a squirrell from new zealand.

Let's make sure Poloniex and Cryptsy and Bittrex are on board before fork as well. I feel like I've heard some cases where "community takeover forks" were rejected by exchanges.
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August 17, 2015, 06:52:22 AM
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Hopefully someone will PM when the source is changed, the android app will be broken otherwise.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=336215 - Android Wallet Creation Service
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August 27, 2015, 01:10:59 PM
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The paperwallet that I host is now signed with my PGP key:

https://cryptap.us/myr/paperwallet.html

website | PGP fingerprint: 692C 0756 E57D 2FA1 7601 3729 010B 717F 231C E7AA | BTC Address: 1CrYPTB1o7QWc8hXqBMP2LtAJh1VMtTFBh
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August 30, 2015, 08:31:20 AM
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Required update - Myriad 0.9.2.16

Major changes:

- Geometric mean work calculation starts at block 1400000
- Target Block time (60s) starts at block 1401000
- Merge Mining of SHA256d and Scrypt enabled from block 1402000

See the OP for download links.

BACKUP FIRST

This new release shouldn't eat/destroy your wallet.dat - but it is highly recommended to make a backup of your wallet.dat to a safe location before starting this new release.

REINDEX REQUIRED

A reindex of the blockchain is required due to the change to auxpow (merge mining).
Please start your new wallet with -reindex option the first time after you upgrade.

Under Windows:

1. Create a text file called reindex.bat in the directory where myriadcoin-qt.exe is stored. In this file paste:

   myriadcoin-qt -reindex

2. Run reindex.bat

Under Linux, run your daemon with:

myriadcoind --daemon -reindex

Alternatively you can resync your blockchain by deleting the blockchain files,
(excluding wallet.dat).

On Windows your blockchain files are usually stored under:

c:\Users\<login>\AppData\Roaming\Myriadcoin

On linux it is usually stored under:

~\.myriadcoin\
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August 30, 2015, 03:11:03 PM
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Thanks for the wallet update. I posted on my site to get the word out: http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/myriad-coin-myr-releases-new-wallet-v-0-9-2-16-on-august-30th-2015/

Vegas

I want to make sure everyone knows that I just released my software called "Yobit pump alert". THis is custom software that uses an algo to detect the start of a pump here on yobit, the second it starts. YOu can even filter the coins you see by price. Most pumps start less than 100 sats , so you can easily filter the cheap coins, so they are the only ones displayed Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945937.msg20241953#msg20241953
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September 13, 2015, 08:55:55 AM
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Why almost all Myriad Groestl, Qubit and Skein pools in this official list are dead? Anyone cares to maintain it?

http://myriadplatform.org/mining-pools/
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September 13, 2015, 09:55:10 AM
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Why is there need to fork? Someone should go and kick start it. Takeover it, change the name, make block time more convenient. I'm guessing the branding alone should keep it afloat. Move it to PoS, or DPOS, totally rethink the POS rewards, add a few merchants, add just a tiny community, and you got yourself at least a mediocre coin. Full discloser, I have millions and can't even sell them for 1 satoshi.
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September 13, 2015, 10:34:45 AM
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I have millions and can't even sell them for 1 satoshi.

I will buy them off you for 2 satoshi - double your price......then you can go & find a pos coin to play with.
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September 13, 2015, 02:51:35 PM
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Why is there need to fork? Someone should go and kick start it. Takeover it, change the name, make block time more convenient. I'm guessing the branding alone should keep it afloat. Move it to PoS, or DPOS, totally rethink the POS rewards, add a few merchants, add just a tiny community, and you got yourself at least a mediocre coin. Full discloser, I have millions and can't even sell them for 1 satoshi.

The main need for fork comes from huge hashers jumping on sha and scrypt, mining a shit load of blocks, then leaving when diff goes up, which then makes the block time very long (hours) for these two algos. This is being addressed by making sha and scrypt auxpow, i.e., merge-mineable, which will hopefully bring in a stable high hashrate on these two.

Other changes include twice as long block time, which will slow down inflation a bit.

Also, I'll see what I can do about getting pools updated on myriadplatorm.org.
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September 15, 2015, 01:09:38 PM
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Only about 9 days until hardfork is scheduled, and still a lot of users running old wallets, see here:
http://myriad.nutty.one/home

Make sure you are updated to 0.9.2.16 ASAP  Wink
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September 21, 2015, 01:41:55 AM
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BUMP! Update to .16!  Grin

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September 21, 2015, 03:12:47 PM
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New MyriadSwitcher version 0.3.8 released. MANDATORY UPGRADE

Everyone using MyriadSwitcher please redownload. I upgraded the wallet to v0.9.2.16
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September 21, 2015, 03:40:54 PM
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New MyriadSwitcher version 0.3.8 released. MANDATORY UPGRADE

Everyone using MyriadSwitcher please redownload. I upgraded the wallet to v0.9.2.16

Nice! Thanks dazz Smiley
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September 21, 2015, 10:51:05 PM
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you are not planing to move to pos right ?

because i bought 3 r9 for this  not so long ago, i need to mine at leas 1 year to pays them back
i don't see something els what i can mine
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September 22, 2015, 12:04:05 AM
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you are not planing to move to pos right ?

because i bought 3 r9 for this  not so long ago, i need to mine at leas 1 year to pays them back
i don't see something els what i can mine

I'd say no way. I'm 99% sure that PoS will not be implemented in any fashion. Upcoming hardfork adds auxpow for SHA and scrypt algos and increases block target time to 1 min (5 min target per algo). The increase in block target time will slow inflation, which you hopefully have factored into your calculations, but no PoS.
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September 24, 2015, 02:57:24 AM
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Happy hard fork day everyone

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September 24, 2015, 11:16:57 AM
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Happy hard fork day everyone

Just a quickie - I have already performed a reindex with the latest client, will I have to reindex again after block 1400000 or can I just sit back & watch it happen?  Wink
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