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Author Topic: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure  (Read 849668 times)
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April 08, 2014, 06:21:13 PM
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IMO, fork each algo to 10 minute blocks (2 minutes vs 30 seconds average), so the block chain size won't be astronomical and network propagation will actually be able to handle high volume properly.

nice idea, but how about " a fork each day, keeps miners away" ? Wink
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April 08, 2014, 06:26:21 PM
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IMO, fork each algo to 10 minute blocks (2 minutes vs 30 seconds average), so the block chain size won't be astronomical and network propagation will actually be able to handle high volume properly.

nice idea, but how about " a fork each day, keeps miners away" ? Wink


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April 08, 2014, 06:30:45 PM
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IMO, fork each algo to 10 minute blocks (2 minutes vs 30 seconds average), so the block chain size won't be astronomical and network propagation will actually be able to handle high volume properly.


Hmmm.....I wouldn't necessarily be against this.

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April 08, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
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Another algorithm to watch out for: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=558414.0

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[ANN] AIDEN | First Cryptocurrency to use Scrypt-OG (Optimized for GPU)

Once upon a time long long ago, the cryptocurrency community was divided by a great gpu vs cpu civil war. Cpu miners were mad they could no longer get many bitcoins with their intel celerons and the migration to scrypt started. The original implementation of scrypt was a short term fix that only kept GPU’s down for a few months. Fast forward to today, gpu miners arn’t as rare as they once were and there is a new enemy in town. The EVIL ASIC!

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Aiden uses an optimized version of scrypt that is 8x less memory intensive than traditional scrypt. GPU miners will get more out of their hardware AND mine a coin that is currently asic resistant. Remember, nothing is ASIC intolerant, but the cost to develop an asic for Scrypt-OG is currently a deterrent.

i'm mining this right now. not much of an advantage compared to scrypt, power draw is a bit less. on 3 270s i have 530 with scrypt and 450 with scryptOG.

i'd want to see regular scrypt n or jane?
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April 08, 2014, 07:12:54 PM
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fight fight fight, pool ops battling over myr miner hashes.

Soon pool owners will start paying people to join their pools, lol :3
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April 08, 2014, 08:17:51 PM
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Soon pool owners will start paying people to join their pools, lol :3

We wont be. Wink

Don't forget guys, we charge a fee because we run top end servers that are low load and dont drop/orphan blocks. That's why our pool has a SIGNIFICANTLY better "time to block find" rate than most. If you don't believe us, look at the "blocks" page (and no - we don't fudge the figures). Remember... LOWER is better.

In short whilst we charge a 1% fee, you'll usually see more coins for your hash with us....

BTW - we are now on the latest wallets.

Enjoy

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April 08, 2014, 09:13:44 PM
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Pools for Myriad:

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April 08, 2014, 09:15:36 PM
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Found some interesting info on Groestl and Skein, so as it definitely is connected with MYR, want to share it with MYR comunity:

1. From another coin's thread ig0tik3d posted some links with info  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525926.msg6122951#msg6122951
Good news for nVidia card owners:

we're working on a KILLER groestl, requiring a deeper understanding of the hash algo.
When done, everything else will be toast.

This would turn quark, X11, groestl, myriad-groestl into CUDA coins.

open sourcing it would be a problem. Last time we did this (heavycoin) the AMD guys caught up within a few days...
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2. About security of Groestl and Skein algorythms:

Since I have a feeling you know the Grøstl algo intimately could you speak to its qualities and how it compares to other algos, esp Keecak? I need more basic info on what makes Grøstl great.


Grøstl was one of the 5 SHA3 finalists (Keccak was named the winner and called SHA3). See more details here: http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/hash/sha-3/Round3/index.html
Grøstl was the slowest of the 5 to implement in software. I would recommend that you quote page 13 of http://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ir/2012/NIST.IR.7896.pdf: For example, the best attacks on BLAKE, Keccak, and SHA-2 can be implemented in practice, whereas the best attacks on Grøstl, JH, and Skein would require huge computational resources to implement, and cannot be fully verified.

The most important quality that I would like you to stress in your blog is the speed difference between CPU and GPU implementations. It is minimal across these cryptographic algorithms.
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I think that this info is usefull talking about our coin Wink

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April 08, 2014, 09:16:16 PM
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fight fight fight, pool ops battling over myr miner hashes.

Soon pool owners will start paying people to join their pools, lol :3

We should have a separate thread for the pool owners.
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April 08, 2014, 10:37:04 PM
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Found some interesting info on Groestl and Skein, so as it definitely is connected with MYR, want to share it with MYR comunity:

1. From another coin's thread ig0tik3d posted some links with info  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525926.msg6122951#msg6122951
Good news for nVidia card owners:

we're working on a KILLER groestl, requiring a deeper understanding of the hash algo.
When done, everything else will be toast.

This would turn quark, X11, groestl, myriad-groestl into CUDA coins.

open sourcing it would be a problem. Last time we did this (heavycoin) the AMD guys caught up within a few days...
Christian

2. About security of Groestl and Skein algorythms:

Since I have a feeling you know the Grøstl algo intimately could you speak to its qualities and how it compares to other algos, esp Keecak? I need more basic info on what makes Grøstl great.


Grøstl was one of the 5 SHA3 finalists (Keccak was named the winner and called SHA3). See more details here: http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/hash/sha-3/Round3/index.html
Grøstl was the slowest of the 5 to implement in software. I would recommend that you quote page 13 of http://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ir/2012/NIST.IR.7896.pdf: For example, the best attacks on BLAKE, Keccak, and SHA-2 can be implemented in practice, whereas the best attacks on Grøstl, JH, and Skein would require huge computational resources to implement, and cannot be fully verified.

The most important quality that I would like you to stress in your blog is the speed difference between CPU and GPU implementations. It is minimal across these cryptographic algorithms.
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I think that this info is usefull talking about our coin Wink

Wow. It's great that 8bit chose Groestl and Skein over Keccak, Sha-2, and BLAKE

Myriadcoin - the first multi-PoW blockchain! (Mine with SHA256 [ASICs], Scrypt [GPU/ASICs], Skein [GPUs], Groestl [GPUs], OR Qubit [CPUs/GPUs]).
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April 08, 2014, 10:37:28 PM
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Can someone help this poor Qubit soul out? I've never mined Qubit before but he needs help: http://www.reddit.com/r/myriadcoin/comments/22jigu/can_somebody_help_me_setup_my_cards_to_mine_qubit/

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April 08, 2014, 11:09:25 PM
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Guys, this coin is a cool idea, but it's just a technical exercise between geeks at the moment - it stands no chance of success if it's not promoted to real people and fresh hands are enticed in.

In this way it reminds me of aircoin, lots of brains but little interest in marketing and , like aircoin, time will run out.

Is anyone working on a media push?

Probably true. Any idea's on how we can do this?

It's a tricky one because, at the moment, this coin is fairly and squarely aimed at geeks and miners, there's not a lot to entice non-crypto types into the fold.

We should look at other coins and see how they have done it, BC and DRK are probably good examples to look at. We should also look at AIR to see how not to do it.

Edit:

Ok, Myriad's big thing is security, how do we bring that to the fore? Could we maybe get a uni's math or computer department involved? Some kind of hacking competition? If we think MYR is secure, we should put it to the test - shows confidence and transparency. I'm just throwing this out, it's prolly a crap idea.


I like the idea of a hacking competition, or a hacking bounty. It's a bit of a publicity stunt with a purpose behind it.

And I feel you on AirCoin. I'm still holding a big bag of it  Angry

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April 09, 2014, 07:35:23 AM
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MYRIADS, your coin is now live on atomic trade, a 50 state fincen licensed usd/btc/alt exchange.

https://www.Atomic-Trade.com?refid=XXXXXXXX

Stop fucking spamming your affiliate ID!!!
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April 09, 2014, 08:18:00 AM
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I'm really digging the discussion here guys (about security paper and PR/media).
Let's keep these a priority.  

We also have another bounty to announce:

GUI Miner - Easy Algo Switcher MKRadnUiH2yAxJ8nwKGk95SjtxpA4YZn4X
Code a GUI-Miner that allows the user to easily switch between Scrypt, Skein, Groestl, or Qubit "with the click of a button". Even better, include an "auto-switching" mode that passively switches algorithms based on which is most profitable according to http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com/




Good Idea, i thought about an automatic Switching Script as well, but an Miner Software doing so, would be pretty sweet.
Added the Bounty to the Board.
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April 09, 2014, 09:00:53 AM
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VOTE FOR MYRIADCOIN
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April 09, 2014, 12:23:43 PM
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like i said 2 days ago . this coin is dying .

dump dump dump dump. Pow is DEAD . multi algo or not multi algo . same thing

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April 09, 2014, 12:41:32 PM
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like i said 2 days ago . this coin is dying .

dump dump dump dump. Pow is DEAD . multi algo or not multi algo . same thing



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April 09, 2014, 01:32:01 PM
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like i said 2 days ago . this coin is dying .

dump dump dump dump. Pow is DEAD . multi algo or not multi algo . same thing



then why'd you even bother to comment? leave now and don't return, moron.
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April 09, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
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like i said 2 days ago . this coin is dying .

dump dump dump dump. Pow is DEAD . multi algo or not multi algo . same thing



then why'd you even bother to comment? leave now and don't return, moron.


I will come back regularly to see you cry.

Because you are buying a coin throwed by miners all the day lol . And after what ? you have the coin and u can do nothing with it idiot

U think ur going to make profit with this coin omfg bullshit?
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April 09, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
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Jesus, how old are you? Nobody is going to take you seriously if you talk like you just got off some teenie chat using wrong english.

Can we please just ban everybody whos critique is not constructive?
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