kiklo
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December 20, 2016, 11:59:54 PM |
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I don't hold any zeit, but I also think this is a big mistake. Can you think of any coins in the past that have slashed emission and then went on to become more successful? Maybe darkcoin/dash, but that's all I can come up with. I think you will taint your project with the smear that coin emission was halted to benefit early adopters. No one wants to buy into something owned by a small number of people where no more will ever be created; just look at NXT, they screwed themselves over from the beginning using this no inflation logic, and there were probably more people in NXT ICO than there are zeit knights right now.
But, like I said, I don't own any and an not voting, so will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Also, why didn't you make people sign large addresses to cast a vote or something, to prove that you actually have some skin in the game. There's probably people in altcoin section with more sock puppet accounts than you got total votes in your poll...just sayin...
The Coin has been Out for ~3 Years, we are not early adopters, we are the guys in it for the long run. Guy have you looked at the markets, there is plenty of ZEIT at 1 satoshi , even after the change to ultra low inflation, it will still take months before that amount is absorbed by the community and the price can rise. It is amazing how many people that don't even own any are so afraid for ZEIT, you don't even care enough to own any. Here is my Knight address MgUFJ2AJvhaWsW4kkfwoDuzy2pZSQLJB63 , with a balance of 212,062,694 of which I am going to pay 50 million directly from it to 8 stakers and for the ZEIT Weekly Jousts winners to anyone that stakes. I am personally giving up 10,603,134 coins of interest yearly and going to pay out 50 million on top of that. Why, Because I believe in this coin and the community that supports it, we found the flaw with all PoS coins and it is inflation, and we are going to fix it. ZEIT started with PoW and then ~ 3 years of extremely low prices, there is no one that has any excuse that it has not been easy to become a substantial owner of this coin. So the early adopter nonsense is BS. The guy that owns 1 million ZEIT vote is just as important as the Guy that own 200 million Vote, signing with addresses are irrelevant. All I can say is enjoy the show, and get some ZEIT before the price increases too much.
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jwinterm
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December 21, 2016, 12:10:30 AM |
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If inflation was the flaw with PoS then why aren't NXT and NEM dominating. Granted, NEM is the only PoS coin in the top ten of market cap, but it's at #9. Dash is kind of PoS I guess at #7. The top six coins are all PoW except ripple, which isn't really a coin imo. There are lots of PoS coins with inflation between zeit and NEM though. Steem is at #11 and don't they have like super high inflation? Are you sure that's really the key issue?
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kiklo
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December 21, 2016, 12:44:18 AM |
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If inflation was the flaw with PoS then why aren't NXT and NEM dominating. Granted, NEM is the only PoS coin in the top ten of market cap, but it's at #9. Dash is kind of PoS I guess at #7. The top six coins are all PoW except ripple, which isn't really a coin imo. There are lots of PoS coins with inflation between zeit and NEM though. Steem is at #11 and don't they have like super high inflation? Are you sure that's really the key issue?
Maybe because they are a bastardization of Proof of Stake original design, with Centralization from their creation to now. I consider none of those a true proof of stake coin. Look at the following & explain to me how any crypto coin is going to generate over 100 million coins in 7 days and maintain a price of between a penny & $1 : We either stop inflation or it crushes us, the numbers don't lie.We started the Poll on December 11, 2016. In just 7 Days our inflation rate has added 110,710,184.07 coins. That is over 110 Million coins. 2016-12-17 Sat 21,724,510.40 2016-12-16 Fri 14,299,754.51 2016-12-15 Thu 18,576,750.07 2016-12-14 Wed 18,396,872.24 2016-12-13 Tue 26,959,713.14 2016-12-12 Mon 7,702,107.81 2016-12-11 Sun 3,050,475.91If we had already switched to Ultra Low Inflation , we would have only added 3,500 coins. 2016-12-17 Sat 500 2016-12-16 Fri 500 2016-12-15 Thu 500 2016-12-14 Wed 500 2016-12-13 Tue 500 2016-12-12 Mon 500 2016-12-11 Sun 500Let say all of the generated coins were placed on blank Markets with no sell walls yet, An investor with $35 wanted to buy into ZEIT . For $35 he could buy ZEIT Entire week of inflation (3,500 coins) at the price of 1 penny each.However to buy Our Actual ZEIT Entire week of inflation 110,710,184.07 of Coins, An investor with $35 can only buy the entire amount if the price per coin is .00000009 LitoshiNow lets say the owners of the inflation , just refused to sell that low, instead placing it all at 1 satoshi. All they are doing is making an impenetrable sell wall, then next week they do the same, and then next week the same except they drop it off at 100 litoshi and start working their way down. This is the Danger of Massive Inflation that now threatens our coin (Actually all PoS coins are suffering even the 1% ones) , going Ultra Low cuts off the supply of never ending coins that crush our price, it is the only solution and the sooner it is implemented the sooner our price recovery can begin.
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igigme77
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December 21, 2016, 01:39:13 AM |
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Me too. Otherwise I was going to be out some serious coin. Did your friend get his coins back?
Not yet, waiting on a 3rd party to get back to me with some information that will settle it once and for all. May be a few days before this resolves for certain. Too much drama. That sucks man and so close to christmas too. Do you mind sharing some details of what happened, I obviously cant help but im sure its a good story behind it. I would , but it is not my story to tell. I will leave it up to my friend , if any more details come out. Ok well tell him I feel bad for him and I hope he gets his money back.
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December 21, 2016, 01:41:01 AM |
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I wish to be a member of the zeit knights, cos it sounds cool!
Will this cryptocurrency automatically entitle me to that title?
If yes, then I'm down for that, else, I need to wait for the Queen to knight me, which I shall ask her about, next time I'm there for Sunday lunch
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kiklo
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December 21, 2016, 01:49:25 AM |
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Become a legendary zeight (zeit knight) and help us to help others. Think of it like King Arthur and his Round Table, every one at the Table is Equal. A Group of Men & Women banding together to make the Way of Zeit a worldwide reality. _______________________________________________________________________________ _ The ZeitKnight's End Game, To make this World a Better Place for All who reside in it. By making zeitcoin into a tool that can help someone next door or someone across the world. ______________________________________________________________________________ Technically Zeitcoin is a Virtual Resource that is made by personal computers, To make a Zeitcoin , you need CPU Labor, Electricity, Internet connection, & Time, We combine those resources to make a Zeitcoin. ______________________________________________________________________________ ZeitKnights Current Goal List https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.msg9883182#msg9883182Charities to Sponsor once the price of zeitcoin is higher https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.msg9874339#msg9874339Zeit Slogans https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.msg9874356#msg9874356_______________________________________________________________________________ ___ Any Questions or Suggestions , Post Away , All Ideas Welcome. Requirements: All Members must have 100 million Zeitcoins as a requirement of being part of the Zeit-Knights. _______________________________________________________________________________ ____ The ZeitKnights began accepting members in Feb 2015. Each ZeitKnight will hold 100 million zeitcoins to use 10% of their interest for charity in the future. Next Registration for Anyone wanting to be a ZeitKnight is March 2017. Our Maximum Number of ZeitKnights will be 300 , that group will make history as supporters of this coin. Next official ZeitKnight registration in March 2017.New members have to pass the test of Proof of ZeitKnight. Link Below. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.msg10461974;topicseen#msg10461974After they Pass the test , this happens. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.msg10324746#msg10324746
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igigme77
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December 21, 2016, 03:39:05 AM |
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Proof of ZeitKnight!Only the 1st 15 Knights will be accepted for Feb Registrations. All others will have to wait til the next registration.Rules for posting , 1st 15 with at least 100 Million Zeitcoins in 1 Address confirmed by the Block Explorer will be Zeit Knights. New Knights will be confirmed in order of posting, so if you are the 16th one, you will have to try again at the next registration. Goto https://chainz.cryptoid.info/zeit/ and verify your amount of zeit is at least 100 million. Copy & Paste your zeit address in the search box and hit enter. Copy & Paste your Address & Balance in a POST , time stamped after 1AM on Feb 1st 2015 on the Zeit Forum. Example Post:_________________________________________________________________________ Proof of ZeitKnightName: Kiklo Address MgUFJ2AJvhaWsW4kkfwoDuzy2pZSQLJB63 Balance 109,697,169.412637 ZEIT __________________________________________________________________________ Once your Post is up, We will send you 2025 zeitcoins within 12 hours, after you receive the zeitcoins, Use Coin Control and send back exactly 2015 zeitcoins to MgUFJ2AJvhaWsW4kkfwoDuzy2pZSQLJB63 , from the 2025 that was sent to you.(Only send from the block of 2025 sent to you, sending from another block , can cause the entire block amount to be subtracted from your total by the block explorer stats.)
This confirms your ownership of the Account. Within 24 hours of confirming ownership of the account, A Post will be added to the Zeit Forum of your Achievement & ZEIT KNIGHTHOOD!!! Only 5 left for Feb 2015. Scary shit, but I think I want to take the next test. Wish me luck.
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igigme77
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December 21, 2016, 05:37:24 PM |
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Scary shit, but I think I want to take the next test. Wish me luck.
Thanks Kiklo. I hope I don't disappoint you and flunk.
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kiklo
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December 21, 2016, 08:12:02 PM |
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December 21, 2016, 08:28:29 PM |
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ZeitKnight idea would have made more sense if there were real life meetups.
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igigme77
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December 22, 2016, 01:48:35 AM |
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ZeitKnight idea would have made more sense if there were real life meetups.
Those can be arranged easily. All it takes is some teamwork and some effort. Has it ever been discussed before in a serious manner?
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kiklo
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December 22, 2016, 06:03:26 AM |
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ZeitKnight idea would have made more sense if there were real life meetups.
Those can be arranged easily. All it takes is some teamwork and some effort. Has it ever been discussed before in a serious manner? We used TeamSpeak for a weekly meeting, when we first started. The Knights are spread across the planet, we did get to hear everyone's accent, but the Time difference made scheduling a problem. The Forums proved a better communication for us at that time. I don't believe our numbers are at the point that make real life meetups feasible. My schedule is such, I would be unable to attend. But , if someone wants to attempt one feel free.
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kiklo
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December 23, 2016, 05:11:38 AM |
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ZEIT 15 % rate is over. The 5% rate has begun. The Vote to move to An Ultra Low Inflation coin of only .0005% , is now 21 in favor & 2 against, so enjoy the 5% while it lasts.
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kiklo
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December 24, 2016, 06:47:22 AM |
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igigme77
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December 24, 2016, 09:28:08 AM |
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ZeitKnight idea would have made more sense if there were real life meetups.
Those can be arranged easily. All it takes is some teamwork and some effort. Has it ever been discussed before in a serious manner? We used TeamSpeak for a weekly meeting, when we first started. The Knights are spread across the planet, we did get to hear everyone's accent, but the Time difference made scheduling a problem. The Forums proved a better communication for us at that time. I don't believe our numbers are at the point that make real life meetups feasible. My schedule is such, I would be unable to attend. But , if someone wants to attempt one feel free. What's the team speak id like to join and see if we can get a real life meet up going so I can meet some of the Knights personally.
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kiklo
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December 24, 2016, 11:58:49 PM |
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What's the team speak id like to join and see if we can get a real life meet up going so I can meet some of the Knights personally.
I don't believe that team speak server is active anymore. Many of the Knights revere their privacy, so I am not sure how well it will work out. Plus considering how the price per coin will rise in the next few years & the fact many legal issues have yet to be resolved in all countries, they may not want to give clues to their real id at the present time. FYI: Once the Knights numbers are near 300 , I can see us having a yearly get together, my vote will be for Bali.
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December 25, 2016, 09:25:16 AM Last edit: December 25, 2016, 11:59:52 AM by uki |
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Merry Christmas to all fellow ZEITers! Good to see some discussion in the community, even better to see some new faces popping up and adding to the discussion. I find it very positive. That is something ZEIT really needs long time (and something I was voicing for quite some time already) and we need it in big volume. I like that we brought to discussion topic of changing the inflation rates. I am in favour of changes (I voted already), however changes must go deeper, not being limited to tweaking the inflation parameters only. Without getting further development done, be it mobile wallet, be it something else community consider important, we won't achieve much. There are plenty of other coins around, some of them did also adjustment of their parameters over the time, and we have to distinguish somehow from the mass of other coins to catch the attention of people and to be able to spread the adoption of ZEIT. Without that, fundamental condition for me, we may keep the coin specs as they are or change them, it won't matter much in the long run.
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atronite
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December 25, 2016, 12:06:06 PM |
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So is it wise to consolidate coin amounts if you got like....over 500 individual coin amounts (for the coin control feature)? I mean all I'd have to do is send myself amounts as large as 99m zeit right?
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solarion
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December 25, 2016, 07:01:53 PM |
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I just re-block the dust that's < 25k. Seems to work fine. Merry Christmas to all that celebrate such things.
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