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May 10, 2012, 04:04:39 AM
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How do the bit streams in CGminer work? are they uploaded on startup? Is the path hard coded?
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May 10, 2012, 08:06:38 AM
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How do the bit streams in CGminer work? are they uploaded on startup? Is the path hard coded?

Bitstreams are stored alongside the cgminer binary (directory 'bitstreams'). The path is hard coded but the bitstream selection is defined in each board firmware.

Bitstreams are uploaded at startup, yes.
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May 19, 2012, 10:20:39 PM
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I have one Problem with my setup. Everything runs fine for some hours but the 2 or 3 FPGAs (of 10) get kicked out of BTCminer for "overheating" or "some other reason i can't identify".

The boards are cooled by stock Xilence  or Titan heat sink.

If i restart BTCminer everything works perfect again

Its random and affects all units in the same way.

Does anyone have similar issues?



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May 19, 2012, 11:41:02 PM
Last edit: May 20, 2012, 10:30:44 AM by Turbor
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I have one Problem with my setup. Everything runs fine for some hours but the 2 or 3 FPGAs (of 10) get kicked out of BTCminer for "overheating" or "some other reason i can't identify".

The boards are cooled by stock Xilence  or Titan heat sink.

If i restart BTCminer everything works perfect again

Its random and affects all units in the same way.

Does anyone have similar issues?

Quad or single boards ? Does this happen after connection issues ? I do have one sick chip that is down 90% of the time. But this seems to be more like a defective FPGA or a board problem than an actual overheating issue. I decided to use the quad as trio. Somehow I got used to the sexy yellow light Cheesy

Edit: You can try to set -oh to 0.5 or so to see how low the boards frequency will fall down. This way you are able to still use the chip in case something is wrong + it won't hurt because the auto downclock still works. That's why I like this boards so much.

Code:
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15d4-0001-02-05-1: f=208.00MHz,  errorRate=0.66%,  maxErrorRa
te=2.21%,  hashRate=206.6MH/s,  submitted 20 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.16
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15d4-0001-02-06-1: f=208.00MHz,  errorRate=0.37%,  maxErrorRa
te=0.95%,  hashRate=207.2MH/s,  submitted 18 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.05
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-0001-02-07-1: f=212.00MHz,  errorRate=0.39%,  maxErrorRa
te=1.26%,  hashRate=211.2MH/s,  submitted 16 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.12
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-0001-02-07-2: f=208.00MHz,  errorRate=0.19%,  maxErrorRa
te=1.72%,  hashRate=207.6MH/s,  submitted 20 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.18
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-0001-02-07-3: f=120.00MHz,  errorRate=0.00%,  maxErrorRa
te=2.99%,  hashRate=120.0MH/s,  submitted 6 new nonces,  luckFactor=0.87
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-0001-02-07-4: f=200.00MHz,  errorRate=0.37%,  maxErrorRa
te=0.51%,  hashRate=199.3MH/s,  submitted 9 new nonces,  luckFactor=0.94
bus-0-0: poll loop time: 88ms (USB: 5ms network: 84ms)   getwork time: 366ms  su
bmit time: 373ms
Total hash rate: 1151.9 MH/s
Total submitted hash rate: 1226.0 MH/s




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May 20, 2012, 01:57:51 PM
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I have one Problem with my setup. Everything runs fine for some hours but the 2 or 3 FPGAs (of 10) get kicked out of BTCminer for "overheating" or "some other reason i can't identify".

The boards are cooled by stock Xilence  or Titan heat sink.

If i restart BTCminer everything works perfect again

Its random and affects all units in the same way.

Does anyone have similar issues?


Something like this with the quads?
Code:
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-A3-1: Error: Hash rate drop of 7.3% detect. This may be caused by overheating. FPGA is shut down to prevent damage.  55.0: Device disabled since 2012-05-01T19:22:53
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-A3-2: Error: Hash rate drop of 7.8% detect. This may be caused by overheating. FPGA is shut down to prevent damage.  50.98564515706362: Device disabled since 2012-05-02T07:51:01
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-A3-3: f=212.00MHz,  errorRate=0.00%,  maxErrorRate=4.10%,  hashRate=212.0MH/s,  submitted 19 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.00
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-A3-4: f=200.00MHz,  errorRate=0.00%,  maxErrorRate=3.45%,  hashRate=200.0MH/s,  submitted 21 new nonces,  luckFactor=0.99
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-B3-1: Error: Hash rate drop of 7.7% detect. This may be caused by overheating. FPGA is shut down to prevent damage.  52.0: Device disabled since 2012-05-03T05:35:39
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Quad or single boards ? Does this happen after connection issues ? I do have one sick chip that is down 90% of the time. But this seems to be more like a defective FPGA or a board problem than an actual overheating issue. I decided to use the quad as trio. Somehow I got used to the sexy yellow light Cheesy

Edit: You can try to set -oh to 0.5 or so to see how low the boards frequency will fall down. This way you are able to still use the chip in case something is wrong + it won't hurt because the auto downclock still works. That's why I like this boards so much.

Code:
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15d4-0001-02-05-1: f=208.00MHz,  errorRate=0.66%,  maxErrorRa
te=2.21%,  hashRate=206.6MH/s,  submitted 20 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.16
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15d4-0001-02-06-1: f=208.00MHz,  errorRate=0.37%,  maxErrorRa
te=0.95%,  hashRate=207.2MH/s,  submitted 18 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.05
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-0001-02-07-1: f=212.00MHz,  errorRate=0.39%,  maxErrorRa
te=1.26%,  hashRate=211.2MH/s,  submitted 16 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.12
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-0001-02-07-2: f=208.00MHz,  errorRate=0.19%,  maxErrorRa
te=1.72%,  hashRate=207.6MH/s,  submitted 20 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.18
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-0001-02-07-3: f=120.00MHz,  errorRate=0.00%,  maxErrorRa
te=2.99%,  hashRate=120.0MH/s,  submitted 6 new nonces,  luckFactor=0.87
bus-0-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-0001-02-07-4: f=200.00MHz,  errorRate=0.37%,  maxErrorRa
te=0.51%,  hashRate=199.3MH/s,  submitted 9 new nonces,  luckFactor=0.94
bus-0-0: poll loop time: 88ms (USB: 5ms network: 84ms)   getwork time: 366ms  su
bmit time: 373ms
Total hash rate: 1151.9 MH/s
Total submitted hash rate: 1226.0 MH/s



Whoa, 120MH/s?  Are you thinking about sending it to Stefan for repair?
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May 20, 2012, 03:38:37 PM
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Hm now it ran for a night without any problem....
Kind of random ...

i think its my hub ..... Or my mac .... Smiley

One of my singles only gets about 199 MH/s. And its getting errors with that speed. But its not the one that gets kicked out of BTCMiner.


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May 20, 2012, 04:10:10 PM
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Whoa, 120MH/s?  Are you thinking about sending it to Stefan for repair?

I got the offer but as long as the other chips work fine I keep it this way. It's not worth the hassle.

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May 21, 2012, 07:10:05 AM
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Hm now it ran for a night without any problem....
Kind of random ...

i think its my hub ..... Or my mac .... Smiley

USB errors look different. That are probably power supply instabilities. (PSU cant handle the load/gets to hot, power cables are to thin / to long, ...)

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May 21, 2012, 08:48:54 AM
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i use the standard puss from your shop. The quad has its own psu, 5 singles are on the splitter (with an standard psu)and one single has its own psu.

I'll have to change that in the near future.

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May 21, 2012, 10:45:51 AM
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I have one Problem with my setup. Everything runs fine for some hours but the 2 or 3 FPGAs (of 10) get kicked out of BTCminer for "overheating" or "some other reason i can't identify".

The boards are cooled by stock Xilence  or Titan heat sink.

If i restart BTCminer everything works perfect again

Its random and affects all units in the same way.

Does anyone have similar issues?


Something like this with the quads?
Code:
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-A3-1: Error: Hash rate drop of 7.3% detect. This may be caused by overheating. FPGA is shut down to prevent damage.  55.0: Device disabled since 2012-05-01T19:22:53
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-A3-2: Error: Hash rate drop of 7.8% detect. This may be caused by overheating. FPGA is shut down to prevent damage.  50.98564515706362: Device disabled since 2012-05-02T07:51:01
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-A3-3: f=212.00MHz,  errorRate=0.00%,  maxErrorRate=4.10%,  hashRate=212.0MH/s,  submitted 19 new nonces,  luckFactor=1.00
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-A3-4: f=200.00MHz,  errorRate=0.00%,  maxErrorRate=3.45%,  hashRate=200.0MH/s,  submitted 21 new nonces,  luckFactor=0.99
2012-05-03T15:59:57: 002-2: ztex_ufm1_15y1-2012-L4-B3-1: Error: Hash rate drop of 7.7% detect. This may be caused by overheating. FPGA is shut down to prevent damage.  52.0: Device disabled since 2012-05-03T05:35:39

I also experience these "hashrate drop errors", but only with BTCMiner. With cgminer 2.4.1 I've never got such an error. The hashrate drop code is present in cgminer. So what does it mean? The hashrate drop errors are present, but cgminer fails to detect them. Or, something is wrong within BTCMiner. One observation I've made... I get the hashrate drop errors in BTCMiner always around "new block" announcments.

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May 21, 2012, 12:18:40 PM
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Its not only hash rate drops also libusb errors occur. i try to find some logs for this.

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May 21, 2012, 08:35:50 PM
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Its not only hash rate drops also libusb errors occur. i try to find some logs for this.
I assume you're only seeing the errors on the quads (I had only seen them on the quads). Are you driving them (1 or 2) on 1 psu? How are you wiring your +12V and GND wires? I had these errors initially where over half of my quads eventually were disabled over the course of a week. I rewired the power cables and haven't seen them for 2 weeks now.
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I assume you're only seeing the errors on the quads (I had only seen them on the quads). Are you driving them (1 or 2) on 1 psu? How are you wiring your +12V and GND wires? I had these errors initially where over half of my quads eventually were disabled over the course of a week. I rewired the power cables and haven't seen them for 2 weeks now.

One quad with its own PSU. Five singles on the splitter thingie and one Single on its separate wall plug.

No its not only the quad. Today for example i came home, three of the five on the splitter and the one on the separate wall plug singles had an LED on (indication that they weren't programmed or stopped working). This kinda happened when emc pool did go offline today (i assume!)


since then its working great....


It cold be my somewhat complicated setup Smiley (Mac OSX --> Parallels --> Win7 + Cheap powered "Trust" 7Port USB HUB). But theres no miner for OSX .... I'm Trying out cgminer (with help from a user here) or btcminer (with that java file that has to be copied into the java/extensions folder to work!).

Would love to see default support for mac from Ztex (i might even pay a little for it like for faster bitstreams) Smiley


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May 21, 2012, 09:43:47 PM
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Are you using the -oh option?  This should prevent you from unwanted kick-outs. Make sure you set the value high enough. Try 0.2 or so. I'm using 0.7 at the moment. If you don't set it, the boards get kicked out after 3 to 4 frequency drops.

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May 21, 2012, 09:46:31 PM
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I have that option enabled  with "-oh 0"  Thats the default value i think.

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Last edit: May 22, 2012, 04:40:19 PM by Turbor
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Set it to 0.2 or 0.1 if you are afraid Tongue. A lower hashrate is better than a dead board.

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May 22, 2012, 03:45:10 PM
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ztex can we please, with sugar on top, get a -f XXX commandline flag that hardcodes the frequency so that we can underclock the chips this summer?

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that would be good Smiley

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May 23, 2012, 02:10:49 AM
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ztex can we please, with sugar on top, get a -f XXX commandline flag that hardcodes the frequency so that we can underclock the chips this summer?

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