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April 30, 2014, 12:40:47 PM
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There will be no huge influx of Russian tourists to Crimea , the ones that wanted to visit it have already done so , the ones wanting to get out of Russia will still flood Turkey.

Too early to say that. I have already seen the Goans complaining about Crimea stealing their tourists. But things will become clear in a few months time, when the casinos start operating from Kerch and Sevastopol.

Make Ibiza a German territory and there will be half of the German tourists there , but you're going to see an influx of Spanish tourist.
The Russian girls I've met in Turkish resorts we're just anxious to visit another country , not that much interested on what's there. And man , there were a lot of them WinkWinkWink

Same with a lot of other countries.
I wonder how many us tourists would fly to CanCun if that was on American soil.
 



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April 30, 2014, 01:33:37 PM
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Make Ibiza a German territory and there will be half of the German tourists there , but you're going to see an influx of Spanish tourist.

I don't care whether tourists from Western Ukraine will avoid Crimea or not. Anyway, per capita spending of these Ukrainian tourists are way lower than that of the Russian tourists. But I don't think that they have got a better choice. Crimea is the most affordable place for them. They can go to Bulgaria, but it will cost them 100% more. Go to Turkey, and the costs will rise by 250%.


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May 01, 2014, 07:46:39 PM
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http://grahamwphillips.com/

This blog is interesting too.

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May 02, 2014, 12:45:46 AM
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Crimea's reunification with Russia was result of Ukrainian crisis

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/730081

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“The reunification of Crimea and Sevastopol with Russia was not a well-thought-out decision but rather reaction to the development of the crisis in Ukraine, which had been orchestrated from outside,” Primakov said. He said Russia “took measures to ensure security of the peninsula’s population during the vote from raids and provocations by radicals”. Primakov also noted that the unity was massive.


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May 02, 2014, 03:08:50 AM
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This is a good thing from my viewpoint.  I don't dare say I know what is best but I think this is up there on my list for what could be considered a positive outcome to a very serious problem.
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May 02, 2014, 10:53:10 AM
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This is a good thing from my viewpoint.  I don't dare say I know what is best but I think this is up there on my list for what could be considered a positive outcome to a very serious problem.

You just sound like a politician.
You express you concern you are welcoming the results whatever it might be but at the same point you're not saying to much to make people quote you in the future about your political "view" in case you were wrong.


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This thread seems like PrimeDice billboard.

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May 02, 2014, 12:51:34 PM
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Russian banks set up over 250 branches in Crimea and Sevastopol

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/russian-banks-set-up-over-250-branches-in-crimea-and-sevastopol-345978.html

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Residents and legal entities of the Crimean federal district have opened more than 90,000 accounts at the region's branches of Russian and Ukrainian banks, Crimean Deputy Finance Minister Natalya Fedchun has said, adding that Russian banks have already set up 255 branches on the peninsula.

lol... the Ukrainian financial boycott is not actually working.  Grin


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May 05, 2014, 08:15:01 AM
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China will be contracted to build a transport (railway) bridge to Crimea over the Kerch strait:
http://www.gazeta.ru/auto/news/2014/05/05/n_6129569.shtml

(Hope they'll not be using compacted garbage instead of concrete here)

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They still have to decide is it going to be just one big motor-railway bridge, or somewhat smaller bridge and a tunnel. Anyway, total costs may climb up to staggering 3 billion $  Shocked

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/730446
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They still have to decide is it going to be just one big motor-railway bridge, or somewhat smaller bridge and a tunnel. Anyway, total costs may climb up to staggering 3 billion $  Shocked

Still much cheaper when compared to the Adler–Krasnaya Polyana road (28 miles long, cost almost $7 billion).  With Putin, corruption is always a major concern. He will make sure that the contract goes to his friends only.  Angry


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May 05, 2014, 11:03:27 AM
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People of Crimea are enjoying their increased salaries and pensions, while those in Donetsk, Lugansk and Odessa are getting murdered by the Right Sector.

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May 05, 2014, 11:23:43 AM
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They still have to decide is it going to be just one big motor-railway bridge, or somewhat smaller bridge and a tunnel. Anyway, total costs may climb up to staggering 3 billion $  Shocked

Still much cheaper when compared to the Adler–Krasnaya Polyana road (28 miles long, cost almost $7 billion).  With Putin, corruption is always a major concern. He will make sure that the contract goes to his friends only.  Angry

You didn't say that... did you?
So they've changed one corrupt government for another corrupt government, just as I said two months ago Smiley. Welcome to mother Russia Smiley.


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May 05, 2014, 11:27:08 AM
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You didn't say that... did you?
So they've changed one corrupt government for another corrupt government, just as I said two months ago Smiley. Welcome to mother Russia Smiley.

Well.... the difference is that Tymoshenko / Yatsenyuk is much more corrupt when compared to Putin. Russia might be corrupt, but the living standards are much better than that in Ukraine.


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May 05, 2014, 11:37:13 AM
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You didn't say that... did you?
So they've changed one corrupt government for another corrupt government, just as I said two months ago Smiley. Welcome to mother Russia Smiley.

Well.... the difference is that Tymoshenko / Yatsenyuk is much more corrupt when compared to Putin. Russia might be corrupt, but the living standards are much better than that in Ukraine.

Choosing between two evils ... that's not really choosing Smiley. It's signing your way to slavery.


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May 05, 2014, 11:46:13 AM
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Choosing between two evils ... that's not really choosing Smiley. It's signing your way to slavery.

Sometimes you have to chose the less evil side, when there is no other choice. And I think Ukraine would be better with Putin rather than they will be with Tymoshenko, the EU and the IMF.


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May 05, 2014, 11:51:47 AM
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Choosing between two evils ... that's not really choosing Smiley. It's signing your way to slavery.

Sometimes you have to chose the less evil side, when there is no other choice. And I think Ukraine would be better with Putin rather than they will be with Tymoshenko, the EU and the IMF.

IMF means also China Russia and India ... and Ukraine and Moldova Smiley.

Let's check it out 5 years from now on. I bet nothing will have changed , a 5$ extra and the same corruption and many other bad things as before.
This is not really improving , it's just switching your jail cell.


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May 05, 2014, 12:09:25 PM
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Choosing between two evils ... that's not really choosing Smiley. It's signing your way to slavery.

Sometimes you have to chose the less evil side, when there is no other choice. And I think Ukraine would be better with Putin rather than they will be with Tymoshenko, the EU and the IMF.

IMF means also China Russia and India ... and Ukraine and Moldova Smiley.

Let's check it out 5 years from now on. I bet nothing will have changed , a 5$ extra and the same corruption and many other bad things as before.
This is not really improving , it's just switching your jail cell.

It seems that you have no idea how close Ukraine to ideal case of corrupt state. The only thing left is legalization & taxation of bribery.

In comparison with Ukraine, RF has an ideal democratic civil society, with zero level of corruption.

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May 05, 2014, 12:12:29 PM
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Yep, of the two evils you choose the lesser one. For example the one that does not prosecute you for using your mother tongue.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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