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April 11, 2014, 05:56:55 PM
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But not for GoogleMaps users from Ukraine.  Tongue

http://rt.com/news/google-maps-crimea-russian-924/

I also see that they added a red outline around Crimea to denote it as disputed territory.

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April 11, 2014, 06:27:25 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y6xUxaqNa4

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April 11, 2014, 07:59:06 PM
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http://www.interfax.ru/world/371135

Ukraine started moving its military hardware out of Crimea.
Ship "Priluki" will go under its own steam. Two other support ships will be towed to Nikolaev.
Four other ships prepare to leave under their own steam.
Submarine "Zaporozh'je" already left and in Ukrainian jurisdiction.
Ukraine had 70 ships in Crimea. Some of those cannot be transported and will be decommissioned and disassembled in Crimea.
Ukraine also transporting out helicopter Ka-29 and plane MIG-29 on special trailers. Another plane will fly under its own power.

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April 11, 2014, 11:04:57 PM
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Memory, not history: 70 years on, Crimea's Kerch celebrates liberation from Nazis
http://rt.com/news/crimea-kerch-liberation-memory-464/

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April 11, 2014, 11:59:30 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x0xE1xePQY

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April 12, 2014, 02:05:22 AM
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But not for GoogleMaps users from Ukraine.

I am from South Asia. Here Crimea is shown as a part of Russia, not Ukraine. Don't know from when did they changed the map. Anyway good move by Google, considering the huge pressure exerted by the US government on them.


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April 12, 2014, 09:04:39 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxfMbi0aCvM

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April 12, 2014, 10:08:09 PM
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All's well that ends well. With that number of firearms, not a single shot was fired to kill or wound.

By the way, at the very end, when they show Right Sector neutralisation, there's one banner that made me shudder at 7:40: "Crimea will be either Ukrainian or devoid of people"

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April 13, 2014, 02:55:58 AM
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Read somewhere that some 2,000 Crimean Muslims have arrived in Kiev as refugees. ROFL... Good riddance I say!


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April 13, 2014, 10:53:46 AM
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Read somewhere that some 2,000 Crimean Muslims have arrived in Kiev as refugees. ROFL... Good riddance I say!

It's always the more radical ones that move. Normal Tatars continue to live and function in the society as before. Oh, well, the West will be happy to have them just as they did with Chechen refugees, about 70-80% of which were of a radical extremist ilk. Remember... cough... Boston..?

Oh, the US is scandalised by Israeli neutrality with the regard to Crimea:
http://ria.ru/world/20140413/1003716172.html
 Grin Grin Grin

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April 13, 2014, 12:09:14 PM
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It's always the more radical ones that move. Normal Tatars continue to live and function in the society as before. Oh, well, the West will be happy to have them just as they did with Chechen refugees, about 70-80% of which were of a radical extremist ilk. Remember... cough... Boston..?

In that case, the US needs to issue them with refugee visa.

Remember the Meskhetian Turks' case? The US claimed that the Kuban Cossacks are committing ethnic cleansing against them and shipped almost 12,000 of them back to the US. Something similar can be done here. This time the population is a bit large. Around 300,000. But some can go to other nations as well,  such as Sweden, UK.etc


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April 13, 2014, 12:21:33 PM
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A little over 1000 citizens of Crimea decline Russian citizenship so far:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/13/n_6079889.shtml
The authorities stated that they don't see an inflow of declines, ant that they will do everything for these people to still feel included.

1000 (+ 2000 Tatars, who moved to Kiev) out of a population of 2.2 million. Not bad.

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A little over 1000 citizens of Crimea decline Russian citizenship so far:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/13/n_6079889.shtml
The authorities stated that they don't see an inflow of declines, ant that they will do everything for these people to still feel included.

1000 (+ 2000 Tatars, who moved to Kiev) out of a population of 2.2 million. Not bad.

That means that even Svoboda members don't want to move to Kiev. Political affiliations apart, at the end of the day it is the salary and pensions which really matters to the general population.


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Graham Phillips about referendum:

http://grahamwphillips.com/2014/04/02/crimea-referendum-the-movie-top-30-videos/

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http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/904856/#ixzz2ymbxVl8I

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http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/4/14/681926.html

Turchinov's gang tries to cut off water supplies.

In 1993 Crimean Republic declared an independence (everything was done according to constitution and treaty). Then Kiev switched off the water, gas and electricity supplues, forcing Crimea to cancel their decision.

I see that nothing has been changed since 1993, they are using blackmailing again... Stupid clowns.

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A multi-kilometer line of refugees is queueing up to get to Crimea from Ukraine.
Ukrainian border control uses up to an hour to search each private vehicle, keeping up the queue. On the Crimean side control takes 15 minutes.

http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/4/14/681926.html

Turchinov's gang tries to cut off water supplies.

In 1993 Crimean Republic declared an independence (everything was done according to constitution and treaty). Then Kiev switched off the water, gas and electricity supplues, forcing Crimea to cancel their decision.

I see that nothing has been changed since 1993, they are using blackmailing again... Stupid clowns.

Nothing new. Crimea is investigating alternatives, like building a water pipeline under Kerch strait or drilling Artesian wells. They are also investigating desalination options. A solution should be ready by 2015. Well, Mallorca and Gran Canaria are almost entirely dependent on imported water, so I don't foresee any technical problems for Crimea either.

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A multi-kilometer line of refugees is queueing up to get to Crimea from Ukraine.
Ukrainian border control uses up to an hour to search each private vehicle, keeping up the queue. On the Crimean side control takes 15 minutes.

And now the cost for all this will start shifting back to the Russian citizens.
I wonder how many of them are willing to pay for this Smiley

I have this nightmare of a column of Moldavians entering Romania .

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April 14, 2014, 11:49:09 AM
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In 1993 Crimean Republic declared an independence (everything was done according to constitution and treaty). Then Kiev switched off the water, gas and electricity supplues, forcing Crimea to cancel their decision.

Crimea would have held on. But that drunkard pro-American son of a w***e Yelstyn told the Crimeans that he will offer no support to them if the Ukrainian army invades Crimea. That is why they cancelled the decision. Well... this time it is going to be different. The CIA will not be able to bribe out Putin. At least not without a huge cost.  Grin


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April 14, 2014, 11:53:17 AM
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And now the cost for all this will start shifting back to the Russian citizens.
I wonder how many of them are willing to pay for this Smiley
It's all about the mentality. There is a major difference between western and eastern europe... Eastern people are ready to pay when it's necessary to achieve strategical benefits, even if they don't like it too much. Interestingly, that this principle works everywhere, even for house affairs. It's something that western people will never understand, that's why all colored revolution attempts are failing here.  Roll Eyes

Crimea territory requires some additional population, and ex-Ukraine citizens is an optimal choice. It's much better than a massive muslim migration.

P.S. stupid forum, session breaks every hour %)

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