The Rock Trading Scam www.therocktrading.com Exchange Review fraud truffa

[eliale]

querida senhora,
 
Please, be so kind to provide to us or to the authorities the following documents:

A valid picture ID
A selfie with your ID and a paper with a unique phrase we will provide to you (please open a ticket in order to obtain it)
A recent proof of address
Fill out all information requested online from your account (please open a ticket in order to be able to do it)

Upon receipt of the above information, if all the documents requested met the above criteria, we will release funds in one business day.

Please note:

All above documents must be in the name we do have on file
Even if we will consider a legal action against you for defamation, we will not further hold your funds if the above requested are satisfied

Thank you

[JollyGood]

querida senhora,
 
Please, be so kind to provide to us or to the authorities the following documents:

A valid picture ID
A selfie with your ID and a paper with a unique phrase we will provide to you (please open a ticket in order to obtain it)
A recent proof of address
Fill out all information requested online from your account (please open a ticket in order to be able to do it)

Upon receipt of the above information, if all the documents requested met the above criteria, we will release funds in one business day.

Please note:

All above documents must be in the name we do have on file
Even if we will consider a legal action against you for defamation, we will not further hold your funds if the above requested are satisfied

Thank you

You should hang your head in shame. You are a disgraceful, pathetic imbecile who tried to selective scam the OP but the OP fought back and took on both and your tiny little scam exchange called Rock Trading.

The OP has the backing of the community. The Rock Trading has no reputation and never will - it is on its long slide in to demise that leads to it being closed because people will not use it, people simply do not trust it.

You thought you it would be a simple thing to selective scam the OP but when he fought back and exposed your little scam exchange called Rock Trading you became angry and tried to use every excuse in to book just to drag this out as long as possible in the hope the OP would give up but he did not give up. He took you on and involved various authorities. Shame on you.

Even now you ask for information from the OP but with a layer of condescending sarcasm. We all know you will not release the funds to him even with all the ID present. You will have to deal with Arbitration and then hopefully be reported to the police and tax authorities so they can investigate your scam Rock Trading.

All you had to do was to give the OP and all other customers the option to either send KYC and continue as a user of the scam Rock Trading or if they did not want to send KYC they should have been allowed the option to withdraw funds in crypto (not FIAT) and close their account at Rock Trading.

You tried to take advantage of selective scamming the OP but failed miserably because your Rock Trading is on the verge of closure thanks to the negative publicity your scam brought you. Only you know how many others you have selectively scammed but they did not expose you in the way the OP did.

Shame on you.

[eliale]

As you can read from the moderator of the Italian chat, Hostfat, JollyGood is a mercenary which is taking money in order to defame other people:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new

Quite interesting..... isn't it??

[JollyGood]

As you can read from the moderator of the Italian chat, Hostfat, JollyGood is a mercenary which is taking money in order to defame other people:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new

Quite interesting..... isn't it??

What is interesting is that you are a pathetic scammer who will hopefully have his pathetic Rock Trading scam website shut down by the authorities soon.


Non sono pagato da nessuno

Sto postando in questa discussione usando il traduttore

Rock Trading sono truffatori che hanno sequestrato illegalmente denaro da Coinfan

Ho pubblicato il thread in inglese ma da quando Coinfan post qui ho deciso di postare anche qui

il tuo profilo mostra: http://therocktrading.com/referral/17

sembra che tu sia pagato dai truffatori del rock trading per i referral

la mia firma elenca truffe e ladri

non vengo pagato

lo faccio per aiutare gli altri e per informare gli altri per proteggerli


loosely means:


I'm not paid by anyone

I'm posting in this discussion using the translator

Rock Trading are scammers who have illegally seized money from Coinfan

I posted in the English thread but since Coinfan post here I decided to post here too

your profile shows: http://therocktrading.com/referral/17

it looks like you're being paid by rock trading scammers for referrals

my signature lists scams and thieves

i do not get paid

i do it to help others and to inform others to protect them


As everybody can read from the post I left there in in the Italian thread in direct response to your affiliate who happens to be a moderator - it is HE who is taking money from you because he is your affiliate. Now that sounds more interesting.

You are a scammer who is nothing more than modern-day common criminal, a petty thief. I am glad the OP did not accept it when you selective scammed them.

[eliale]

yes sure....

very nice jolly 

and good work coinfan..... 

Still, if you provide docs requested (can you really do it??) we will release your funds.....

[JollyGood]

As you can read from the moderator of the Italian chat, Hostfat, JollyGood is a mercenary which is taking money in order to defame other people:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new

Quite interesting..... isn't it??

What about Legendary user Vod? In your opinion is he a mercenary too?









What about Legendary user LoyceV? In your opinion is he a mercenary too?




So does it mean anybody who states what they see when they look at Rock Trading, is a mercenary?

 

[eliale]

So Jolly, what is  your fee?? A % of the amount involved or a fix price?

[JollyGood]

So Jolly, what is  your fee?? A % of the amount involved or a fix price?

You asked the same question in the Italian thread a few minutes ago:

Si si attendiamo l'arbitro con impazienza (non sono ironico)

Invece, Jolly, per curiosita' personale, quant'e' la tua tariffa???

Here was the response:


il mio tasso è "zero"

Cerco solo di aiutare coloro che sono vittime di truffe e ladri come quelli praticati dal rock trading

quindi quante persone hai rubato usando KYC come scusa?

E quanti soldi ha rubato il Rock Trading usando KYC come scusa?


loosely means:


my rate is "zero"

I only try to help those who are victims of scams and thieves like those practiced by rock trading

so how many people have you stolen from using KYC as an excuse?

And how much money has Rock Trading stolen using KYC as an excuse?


So what are your views on LoyceV and Vod? In your opinion are they mercenaries?  

[eliale]

a real "mecenate" sure....

Ok, let's go back to the real problem, @coinfan, is Susana still around? She is the account owner and she must provide requested docs. Is by any chance the reason why you cannot send docs?  

@jolly, I understand this is business for you but check with your client what is going on.....

Thank you  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new

[JollyGood]

a real "mecenate" sure....

Ok, let's go back to the real problem, @coinfan, is Susana still around? She is the account owner and she must provide requested docs. Is by any chance the reason why you cannot send docs?  

@jolly, I understand this is business for you but check with your client what is going on.....

Thank you  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new

Hello guys,
I'm watching this thread over a week and I write article about this. I will uptade it with more details. I hope TheRockTrading will "unlock" victim's amount. Here is a link for article https://www.coinmedicate.com/the-rock-trading-selective-scam/ . English is not my native language and please don't flame me for mistakes (kidding).
Thank you!

Last excuse was that OP had fiat sitting in his account ,which he never asked to withdraw. So my question stands: just holding fiat constitute to kyc in your exchange?
Because I dont believe crypto is really the reason for this kyc. And hiding behind kyc and AML only proves you stuck and don't know where to go with this. Unfortunately centralised services like this are real issue in crypto sphere. You wish to be recognized as tech /crypto place but using some first degree shit kyc and aml excuses to limit people from using their own assets. Or you wish to move away from those handcuffs of old days or you just hiding behind crypto to carry on like use to be with banks etc.
Your name of the service I believe is already damaged, and therefore u behaving this way. Because you know there is nothing more to loose.
That's my opinion. 

So in your opinion we are all scammers?

So how many people have you stolen from using KYC as an excuse?

And how much money has Rock Trading stolen in total using KYC as an excuse?

[s1lverbox]

So Jolly, what is  your fee?? A % of the amount involved or a fix price?

Why attacking this user while you have real issue not resolved. Looks like you trying to move all attention and focus from main issue by calling someone mercenary.

I left u negative feedback because i dont believe you acted in good faith. Maybe im also paid shill?

Silly really. Longer it takesmore google indexing about your exchange.

[eliale]

So in your opinion we are all scammers?

So how many people have you stolen from using KYC as an excuse?

And how much money has Rock Trading stolen in total using KYC as an excuse?

Jolly, you are not a scammer, for you is business only : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new

for the other 2 questions, easy to answer: none since 2011......  this is a fact

For your client Coinfan the solution is easy.  As soon as we will receive docs we will release funds.  But, is Coinfan Susana (the account real owner)??

1) Why Susana should refuse to provide her documents when we do have past correspondence where she wasn't against to do so?
2) Why Susana should risk to collect over 35 k euro just for a principle when it is standard procedure to provide KYC?
3) Why Susana should pay you to help her to defame us?

4) Last but not least, is Susana in control of her account?? I hope so because, otherwise, something happened to Susana......

Jolly, again, I understand you position and I hope you already collected your fee.....   

Thank you

[eliale]

So Jolly, what is  your fee?? A % of the amount involved or a fix price?

Why attacking this user while you have real issue not resolved. Looks like you trying to move all attention and focus from main issue by calling someone mercenary.

I left u negative feedback because i dont believe you acted in good faith. Maybe im also paid shill?

Silly really. Longer it takesmore google indexing about your exchange.

Because Jolly come out to be a paid mercenary as stated by one of the most important btc talk moderators.... 

As far as you, you are entitled to have your opinion and, even if negative, it does not mean you are paid by someone and I respect it. 

The issue won't be solved till the account owner or the authorities will provide us with requested KYC docs and, believe me. I really hope it is going to happen soon!

Thank you

[JollyGood]

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Well those reputations belonging to the Rock Trading exchange scam are in tatters  

[eliale]

Jolly, you are not a scammer, for you is business only : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new

For your client Coinfan the solution is easy.  As soon as we will receive docs  from Coinfan or the authorities we will release funds

But, is Coinfan Susana (the account real owner)??

1) Why Susana should refuse to provide her documents when we do have past correspondence where she wasn't against to do so?
2) Why Susana should risk to collect over 35 k euro just for a principle when it is standard procedure to provide KYC?
3) Why Susana should pay you to help her to defame us?

4) Last but not least, is Susana in control of her account?? I hope so because, otherwise, something happened to Susana......


Thank you

[asche]

Just wondering eliale...

Considering he believed he would not need to give any document based on your previous T&C and your FAQ, and he entered a fake name to protect his privacy.

Does he have a way to get back his money?

Why is a signed message from a funding address of his trading account not enough to prove his ownership?

Please be precise and exhaustive in your answer, and give us details about what will happen with the money if he used a fake name.

[JollyGood]

Jolly, you are not a scammer, for you is business only : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new

eliale (as left in deserving negative feedback the real name Andrea Medri from Rock Trading scam exchange), you are the owner of Rock Trading scam.

Going by your mindset, why do you think all the users that left negative trust for you are mercenaries and paid puppets  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=35172

[asche]

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Repeating the same thing all over again won't make anything move in the right direction.
Why not wait for her to answer to my question.

Regarding the amount involved it is perfectly possible that the owner used a fake name. However this shouldn't make it impossible to recover the funds.

[JollyGood]

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Repeating the same thing all over again won't make anything move in the right direction.
Why not wait for her to answer to my question.

Regarding the amount involved it is perfectly possible that the owner used a fake name. However this shouldn't make it impossible to recover the funds.

It should have been very possible and very easy for the OP to recover the funds in crypto (not FIAT) but the Rock Trading have a personal vendetta against the OP. They have deliberately taken a stance of stubbornness because the OP started this thread.

eliale / Andrea Medri is trying deflect attention away from the key fact. The change of wording in the TOS does not help his case at all because a senior board member of their scam exchange sent an email to the OP stating KYC was not mandatory as per the email sent on 21st August 2018 and mentioned in the OP.

They should have allowed the OP (and all their users the option) to simply comply with KYC in order to keep using Rock Trading as a service or they should have allowed the OP to withdraw non-FIAT funds to a wallet out of Rock Trading and then close the account.

They used this opportunity to selective scam the OP (and maybe several others) but at least the OP came here looking for help, that thankfully in-turn helped bring the whole matter to light.

From what I read in previous posts, the OP has sent all documents to the Arbitration Team and they are looking in to this matter but only the OP can clarify the issue related to it.

[asche]

@Jolly give us a break already. I agree with you but you keep repeating the same shit everyone can actually read for themselves. Please refrain. This is spam as far as I am concerned