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March 18, 2021, 06:56:16 PM
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Lord Shardul made a game with 2 back to back wickets but lord Shardul also gave a good scare in the last over lol.

Series is 2-2 now
Lord Shardul? Lol. I was surprised to see him remove 2 big power hitters back to back, but I wasn't surprised to see him bowl badly against Archer in the final over. He is a wicket-taker, but he is also a run leaker. Excited for the final.

Hardik Pandya once again surprised everyone with his tight bowling and he picked up two important wickets (Jason Roy and Sam Curran).
Pandya bowled well, but the best bowler was Bhuvi all the way just like in recent matches. After Bumrah, I regard him as the best death bowler in Indian cricket currently.

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March 18, 2021, 09:22:24 PM
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This was the first match in the series where the team batting first won. Its good to see a series go down to the final match as most series are wrapped up early on. Its hard to say which team can win the series as both teams have played well but I would have to go with the home team to get it done. Kohli failed to score runs in this match however I think he has had a good series scoring two half centuries.

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March 18, 2021, 09:23:35 PM
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Cut some slack to third umpire, do you know how tough is to take shitty decision and stand against the rules of logic.  Grin
The flawed logic is since the field umpire who does not have a clear view of the catch gave them as a soft dismissal while referring to the third umpire and even the third umpire in his eyes cannot see the ball landing because he might be thinking Malan has extra long fingers than normal and then it was inconclusive to make a decision so that the on field umpire decision stays should change as the on field umpire has no clue or view about the catch and with these technological advantage they should not make these blunders.

Even a school kid would have the insight what a third umpire did not have in this decision Cheesy.

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March 19, 2021, 03:08:03 AM
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Pandya bowled well, but the best bowler was Bhuvi all the way just like in recent matches. After Bumrah, I regard him as the best death bowler in Indian cricket currently.

I guess the England batsmen came prepared to face spin, but they were undone by the medium pace of Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Hardik Pandya. On the other hand, the spinners were disappointing yesterday, perhaps with the exception of Rahul Chahar. It was a close match though and if England managed to restrict India to under 180, then they could have easily won the match.

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March 19, 2021, 05:52:07 AM
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Pandya bowled well, but the best bowler was Bhuvi all the way just like in recent matches. After Bumrah, I regard him as the best death bowler in Indian cricket currently.

I guess the England batsmen came prepared to face spin, but they were undone by the medium pace of Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Hardik Pandya. On the other hand, the spinners were disappointing yesterday, perhaps with the exception of Rahul Chahar. It was a close match though and if England managed to restrict India to under 180, then they could have easily won the match.

The way Yadav and Panth batted I do not think it was possible for England to restrict the Indian team score under 180. It would not have been a closed matched if the Indian spinner duo were able to utilise the pitch. Shardul Mishra for me was the star bowler of yesterday's match and not Bhuvaneshwar kumar or Hardik Pandya. In the end after losing the toss India did win the match.

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March 19, 2021, 06:19:29 AM
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The way Yadav and Panth batted I do not think it was possible for England to restrict the Indian team score under 180. It would not have been a closed matched if the Indian spinner duo were able to utilise the pitch. Shardul Mishra for me was the star bowler of yesterday's match and not Bhuvaneshwar kumar or Hardik Pandya. In the end after losing the toss India did win the match.

Indian spinners were wayward. Washington Sundar in particular gave away so many easy pickings for the batsmen (he went for 52 runs from his 4 overs). Shardul Thakur bowled well, but he was expensive in his first spell. He managed to pick up wickets in the end, because by then the required run rate was close to 15 runs per over. The best bowlers for India were Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Hardik Pandya. They were the ones who kept pressure on England, by bowling with a very tight line.
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March 19, 2021, 08:24:45 AM
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Cut some slack to third umpire, do you know how tough is to take shitty decision and stand against the rules of logic.  Grin
The flawed logic is since the field umpire who does not have a clear view of the catch gave them as a soft dismissal while referring to the third umpire and even the third umpire in his eyes cannot see the ball landing because he might be thinking Malan has extra long fingers than normal and then it was inconclusive to make a decision so that the on field umpire decision stays should change as the on field umpire has no clue or view about the catch and with these technological advantage they should not make these blunders.

Even a school kid would have the insight what a third umpire did not have in this decision Cheesy.


Look at the bright side, third umpiring has been pretty much below average in this tour so it can't get worse than that.

About on field umpiring; its hard for on field umpire to judge even close call on wickets in real time. Judging clean catches on boundary from square or bowler end are impossible, that's why soft signal becomes important. On field umpire went with the fielder reaction and gave out as soft signal. He could have said "I'm not sure" as Virat mentioned. Third umpire was on weeds that's a only explanation i could find for this incident.

On second note i have a feeling that we have less amount of camera angles in this series when comparing to IPL.

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Look at the bright side, third umpiring has been pretty much below average in this tour so it can't get worse than that.

About on field umpiring; its hard for on field umpire to judge even close call on wickets in real time. Judging clean catches on boundary from square or bowler end are impossible, that's why soft signal becomes important. On field umpire went with the fielder reaction and gave out as soft signal. He could have said "I'm not sure" as Virat mentioned. Third umpire was on weeds that's a only explanation i could find for this incident.

On second note i have a feeling that we have less amount of camera angles in this series when comparing to IPL.
What he might try to tell was that, we need to get rid of the mandatory soft signal, this is a classic example. The third umpire did not have any camera angles to make a concrete decision and the rules says that if there is a doubt the decision will favor the batsman. But when it goes to the third umpire and the on field umpire gives a soft signal out, then the on field umpire decision stays even if there is no clarity even with multiple replays and in this instance there is no way the on field umpires can view clearly and make a decision 50 meters away from him.
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The way Yadav and Panth batted I do not think it was possible for England to restrict the Indian team score under 180. It would not have been a closed matched if the Indian spinner duo were able to utilise the pitch. Shardul Mishra for me was the star bowler of yesterday's match and not Bhuvaneshwar kumar or Hardik Pandya. In the end after losing the toss India did win the match.

Indian spinners were wayward. Washington Sundar in particular gave away so many easy pickings for the batsmen (he went for 52 runs from his 4 overs). Shardul Thakur bowled well, but he was expensive in his first spell. He managed to pick up wickets in the end, because by then the required run rate was close to 15 runs per over. The best bowlers for India were Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Hardik Pandya. They were the ones who kept pressure on England, by bowling with a very tight line.
I guess the tight bowling and wicket taking bowler is also a deadly combo because when the run rate need kept rising so batsmen need to take risk of hitting the every balls which will give opportunity to take some wickets as well that is what exactly happened last night.1o runs an over is a bit expensive but the 4 wickets will compensate everything because he was the reason to win the match to be honest.
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Look at the bright side, third umpiring has been pretty much below average in this tour so it can't get worse than that.

About on field umpiring; its hard for on field umpire to judge even close call on wickets in real time. Judging clean catches on boundary from square or bowler end are impossible, that's why soft signal becomes important. On field umpire went with the fielder reaction and gave out as soft signal. He could have said "I'm not sure" as Virat mentioned. Third umpire was on weeds that's a only explanation i could find for this incident.

On second note i have a feeling that we have less amount of camera angles in this series when comparing to IPL.
What he might try to tell was that, we need to get rid of the mandatory soft signal, this is a classic example. The third umpire did not have any camera angles to make a concrete decision and the rules says that if there is a doubt the decision will favor the batsman. But when it goes to the third umpire and the on field umpire gives a soft signal out, then the on field umpire decision stays even if there is no clarity even with multiple replays and in this instance there is no way the on field umpires can view clearly and make a decision 50 meters away from him.
I think this is a sort of double edged sword. I think the board wants technology to be used till a limit in the game and let the players and umpires play the game. Technology is kept as the second option as they want that humar error thing to do it's own play. But yes when there is soft signal requirements in run out decisions then why should there be in boundary catches decisions as the umpires cannot judge both of them. I think it just depends on differences of schools of thought and nothing else.
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Look at the bright side, third umpiring has been pretty much below average in this tour so it can't get worse than that.

About on field umpiring; its hard for on field umpire to judge even close call on wickets in real time. Judging clean catches on boundary from square or bowler end are impossible, that's why soft signal becomes important. On field umpire went with the fielder reaction and gave out as soft signal. He could have said "I'm not sure" as Virat mentioned. Third umpire was on weeds that's a only explanation i could find for this incident.

On second note i have a feeling that we have less amount of camera angles in this series when comparing to IPL.
What he might try to tell was that, we need to get rid of the mandatory soft signal, this is a classic example. The third umpire did not have any camera angles to make a concrete decision and the rules says that if there is a doubt the decision will favor the batsman. But when it goes to the third umpire and the on field umpire gives a soft signal out, then the on field umpire decision stays even if there is no clarity even with multiple replays and in this instance there is no way the on field umpires can view clearly and make a decision 50 meters away from him.
Due to the 'soft signal' rule the former cricketers criticized on third umpire's choice. Suryakumar Yadav's dismissal has started a debate as umpire made a controversial decision. How can be this out when it obviously shown the ball contacted the grounds. This rule needs to be changed.

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Let's just hope that ICC take any steps against this "Umpires call" on such scenario before the T-20 world cup kicks in. Just imagine India vs Any team in the Finals and umpire call deciding the outcome (India losing the game). Riots Riots !!!  Grin Grin

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So we have series decider, excepting cracking Saturday.

This would be my team for today

Kishan
Rohit
Surya
Kohli
Shreyas
Pant ( if need quick runs then Pant could play ahead of Shreyas at no 5, move Shreyas at no 6)
Pandaya
Shardul
Bhuvi
Sundar (He was expensive in the last game but conditions were tough when he came to ball so going with him again or Should Lord Tewatia play in the final game?)
Chahar

Tricky situation with the 5 bowler setup but no other choice as Jadeja is not there.

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Let's just hope that ICC take any steps against this "Umpires call" on such scenario before the T-20 world cup kicks in. Just imagine India vs Any team in the Finals and umpire call deciding the outcome (India losing the game). Riots Riots !!!  Grin Grin

I am in favor of the status quo, especially related to the LBW appeals. If the "Umpire's call" and "soft signal" are eliminated, then it will result in complete chaos and the decision of the field umpire would be overturned several times in the same match. And this will also result in the fielding team going for more reviews and the match can get delayed due to it. We have seen this during the 4th match as well, when the third umpire took almost 15 minutes to decide whether a catch was cleanly taken or not.

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Look at the bright side, third umpiring has been pretty much below average in this tour so it can't get worse than that.

About on field umpiring; its hard for on field umpire to judge even close call on wickets in real time. Judging clean catches on boundary from square or bowler end are impossible, that's why soft signal becomes important. On field umpire went with the fielder reaction and gave out as soft signal. He could have said "I'm not sure" as Virat mentioned. Third umpire was on weeds that's a only explanation i could find for this incident.

On second note i have a feeling that we have less amount of camera angles in this series when comparing to IPL.
What he might try to tell was that, we need to get rid of the mandatory soft signal, this is a classic example. The third umpire did not have any camera angles to make a concrete decision and the rules says that if there is a doubt the decision will favor the batsman. But when it goes to the third umpire and the on field umpire gives a soft signal out, then the on field umpire decision stays even if there is no clarity even with multiple replays and in this instance there is no way the on field umpires can view clearly and make a decision 50 meters away from him.
Due to the 'soft signal' rule the former cricketers criticized on third umpire's choice. Suryakumar Yadav's dismissal has started a debate as umpire made a controversial decision. How can be this out when it obviously shown the ball contacted the grounds. This rule needs to be changed.
It was clearly evident that the ball did hit the ground. What made the third umpire doubt the visual. I am sure he might have some issues with his eye sight. There is nothing to debate about this umpire, it would be good if ICC exempts him from umpiring in international cricket.

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So we have series decider, excepting cracking Saturday.

This would be my team for today

Kishan
Rohit
Surya
Kohli
Shreyas
Pant ( if need quick runs then Pant could play ahead of Shreyas at no 5, move Shreyas at no 6)
Pandaya
Shardul
Bhuvi
Sundar (He was expensive in the last game but conditions were tough when he came to ball so going with him again or Should Lord Tewatia play in the final game?)
Chahar

Tricky situation with the 5 bowler setup but no other choice as Jadeja is not there.
This seems the perfect playing XI for the decider but it seems Kohli willing to stick with KL Rahul even after the disappointing everytime, hooe this time Ishan Kisan and Surya Kumar Yadav will get slots. About Takur he should be the man because 3 spinners may end up into chaos if they are defending a total and also the dew factor may plays a role.
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March 20, 2021, 09:03:03 AM
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This would be my team for today

Kishan
Rohit
Surya
Kohli
Shreyas
Pant ( if need quick runs then Pant could play ahead of Shreyas at no 5, move Shreyas at no 6)
Pandaya
Shardul
Bhuvi
Sundar (He was expensive in the last game but conditions were tough when he came to ball so going with him again or Should Lord Tewatia play in the final game?)
Chahar

Tricky situation with the 5 bowler setup but no other choice as Jadeja is not there.
I would replace Kishan with Rahul on top since I feel like he will retain his form soon. Why Tewatia? Sundar was expensive in just 1 game(His worst performance so far which goes to show how economical he usually is).

Sundar can also bat really well down the order which is why I would stick with him. Also, Shardul needs to leak less runs in order to place India in a better spot.

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Let's just hope that ICC take any steps against this "Umpires call" on such scenario before the T-20 world cup kicks in. Just imagine India vs Any team in the Finals and umpire call deciding the outcome (India losing the game). Riots Riots !!!  Grin Grin

I am in favor of the status quo, especially related to the LBW appeals. If the "Umpire's call" and "soft signal" are eliminated, then it will result in complete chaos and the decision of the field umpire would be overturned several times in the same match. And this will also result in the fielding team going for more reviews and the match can get delayed due to it. We have seen this during the 4th match as well, when the third umpire took almost 15 minutes to decide whether a catch was cleanly taken or not.
If something happening inside 30 yard circle then umpire calls with soft signal makes sense but not when action happening on boundary lines. On LBW decision, if ball clipping the wicket then it should be out IMO.

but it seems Kohli willing to stick with KL Rahul even after the disappointing everytime, hooe this time Ishan Kisan and Surya Kumar Yadav will get slots.
I'm hoping the same, let's see what Koach does.


 Why Tewatia?
Just in case.. I don't mind sticking with Sundar tho.


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March 20, 2021, 01:22:54 PM
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This would be my team for today

Kishan
Rohit
Surya
Kohli
Shreyas
Pant ( if need quick runs then Pant could play ahead of Shreyas at no 5, move Shreyas at no 6)
Pandaya
Shardul
Bhuvi
Sundar (He was expensive in the last game but conditions were tough when he came to ball so going with him again or Should Lord Tewatia play in the final game?)
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Tricky situation with the 5 bowler setup but no other choice as Jadeja is not there.
I would replace Kishan with Rahul on top since I feel like he will retain his form soon. Why Tewatia? Sundar was expensive in just 1 game(His worst performance so far which goes to show how economical he usually is).

Sundar can also bat really well down the order which is why I would stick with him. Also, Shardul needs to leak less runs in order to place India in a better spot.
I think the most interesting thing I have heard today is that it's Captain Kohli along with Hitman who would be opening up the proceedings for the team. Let's see if he actually does. On Rahul I am feeling bad for him but this is how things are Indian team is ultra competitive when it comes to bench strength. But yeah most interesting thing to watch today will be hitman Kohli show. Let's see what impression they make today.
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~snip~
I think the most interesting thing I have heard today is that it's Captain Kohli along with Hitman who would be opening up the proceedings for the team. Let's see if he actually does. On Rahul I am feeling bad for him but this is how things are Indian team is ultra competitive when it comes to bench strength. But yeah most interesting thing to watch today will be hitman Kohli show. Let's see what impression they make today.
Hell yeah, Kohli did open beautifully for RCB few times so why not? Deep down everyone wanted him to open when other batsmen were failing, score board doesn't look good when it shows 1 for 10 everytime. So i'm excited as well, hoping that this experiment clicks.

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If this pair can squeeze power play well then it would be great from India's perspective.

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So, The 5th T20I INDvENG series decider match is here to go! Team India have dropped one batsman and replace with bowler. Natarajan in place of KL Rahul which bring give Indian team an extra bowling option so now a team with a good balance with bat and ball. It is good to see T Natarajan in action and India going in with 6 bowling options. Unchanged England team chase again as they decided to field.

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