T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion

[Sithara007]

I think there could be some substitution of the DLS system right now. we have come a long way since that DLS system was introduced. I know that the DLS system has been revised probably a couple of times but I really think it is a bit outdated right now. I obviously realize that the earlier system Brought the target of 22 runs from 13 balls to 22 runs from 1 ball. and if I am not wrong DLS was introduced almost right after that. so it has been a long time and I think  this matter needs to be seriously looked into

DLS was revised once or twice after it was introduced. At this point, it is the most unbiased system available. And they do modify the DLS targets based on the results from completed matches. And regarding the 5th match between Ireland and Afghanistan, I don't know why everyone is just assuming that Afghanistan could have scored a lot of runs in the final 5 overs. It could have gone just the opposite way. Ireland pacers were in very good form and they could have wrapped up the Afghan middle and lower order quickly.

[BobK71]

Playing with big teams like Newzealand, India and others has certainly helped the Irish team a lot. I never thought that the Afghan's were a weaker side but I realised they were not better than the Ireland. A massive boost of morale this series win will help them in the upcoming T20WC. I think a few big teams will face a good challenge and some might lose to them.

When Afghanistan toured Ireland in 2018 they won the series and this time around Ireland were coming close to victory against teams like England and India. It is the momentum Ireland had right now and the way they were playing against top teams gave them the confidence to perform better against Afghanistan.

If Ireland toured Afghanistan right now, Afghanistan will have the upper hand and most likely win the series. Home ground advantage is for real .

Ireland cricketers keep up resistance against many of the bigger teams where they came close to winning but were unable to come away with the win in the end. But it has to be said that Ireland has made some progress in their cricket. They also won the series against Afghanistan. Although in the last match they had to win by DLS method due to rain.

[laurenB7742]

Playing with big teams like Newzealand, India and others has certainly helped the Irish team a lot. I never thought that the Afghan's were a weaker side but I realised they were not better than the Ireland. A massive boost of morale this series win will help them in the upcoming T20WC. I think a few big teams will face a good challenge and some might lose to them.

When Afghanistan toured Ireland in 2018 they won the series and this time around Ireland were coming close to victory against teams like England and India. It is the momentum Ireland had right now and the way they were playing against top teams gave them the confidence to perform better against Afghanistan.
If Ireland toured Afghanistan right now, Afghanistan will have the upper hand and most likely win the series. Home ground advantage is for real .

Ireland cricketers keep up resistance against many of the bigger teams where they came close to winning but were unable to come away with the win in the end. But it has to be said that Ireland has made some progress in their cricket. They also won the series against Afghanistan. Although in the last match they had to win by DLS method due to rain.

I really did not believe that Ireland was going to win against Afghanistan in this T20 Series. Because I always believed that Afghanistan is a better team than Ireland when it comes to T20 cricket. However, Ireland is showing positive signs of improvement. During that series against India a few days ago, they impressed a lot of people. While they did not win anything close to their hearts, they fought courageously against India. Even though many people will disagree. And this win against Afghanistan is obviously going to give them a boost in morale.

[S A KHAIR]

I think there could be some substitution of the DLS system right now. we have come a long way since that DLS system was introduced. I know that the DLS system has been revised probably a couple of times but I really think it is a bit outdated right now. I obviously realize that the earlier system Brought the target of 22 runs from 13 balls to 22 runs from 1 ball. and if I am not wrong DLS was introduced almost right after that. so it has been a long time and I think  this matter needs to be seriously looked into

DLS was revised once or twice after it was introduced. At this point, it is the most unbiased system available. And they do modify the DLS targets based on the results from completed matches. And regarding the 5th match between Ireland and Afghanistan, I don't know why everyone is just assuming that Afghanistan could have scored a lot of runs in the final 5 overs. It could have gone just the opposite way. Ireland pacers were in very good form and they could have wrapped up the Afghan middle and lower order quickly.

Afghanistan had 5 wickets in hand and that is certainly enough for the last 5 overs in my opinion. I think they could have at least pushed for 130/135. That wouldn't have made a big difference when the DLS method stepped in though. But if this was a match of whole 40 overs I think Afghanistan would have had a better chance because they have very good bowlers. And if they had the time they also might have the capability of making a comeback in this match. But yes that never happened and we all just guess. The reality is is Afghanistan lost the series to Ireland which I thought shouldn't have happened.

[rojan]

I think there could be some substitution of the DLS system right now. we have come a long way since that DLS system was introduced. I know that the DLS system has been revised probably a couple of times but I really think it is a bit outdated right now. I obviously realize that the earlier system Brought the target of 22 runs from 13 balls to 22 runs from 1 ball. and if I am not wrong DLS was introduced almost right after that. so it has been a long time and I think  this matter needs to be seriously looked into

DLS was revised once or twice after it was introduced. At this point, it is the most unbiased system available. And they do modify the DLS targets based on the results from completed matches. And regarding the 5th match between Ireland and Afghanistan, I don't know why everyone is just assuming that Afghanistan could have scored a lot of runs in the final 5 overs. It could have gone just the opposite way. Ireland pacers were in very good form and they could have wrapped up the Afghan middle and lower order quickly.

Afghanistan had 5 wickets in hand and that is certainly enough for the last 5 overs in my opinion. I think they could have at least pushed for 130/135. That wouldn't have made a big difference when the DLS method stepped in though. But if this was a match of whole 40 overs I think Afghanistan would have had a better chance because they have very good bowlers. And if they had the time they also might have the capability of making a comeback in this match. But yes that never happened and we all just guess. The reality is is Afghanistan lost the series to Ireland which I thought shouldn't have happened.

Afghanistan and the line is very strong but they can't do anything in time Afghanistan Sometimes I see that they play a very bad game that they have no idea how to keep playing, they have no idea that they are losing today, I think Afghanistan can beat all teams if they play well.  Especially in batting, if they say well, they have to do well, both will be seen together in the last moment, they will win,

[Sithara007]

There is a lot of movement w.r.t the ILT20. By now, most of the franchises have announced their squads. Dubai Capitals and Sharjah Warriors made the announcement yesterday, while Gulf Giants made the announcement early this week. Some of the top players around the world will be participating in this tournament, and it can give tough challenge to the other leagues such as the Hundred and the BBL. It is going to be extremely beneficial for the associate and UAE players as well. And it will be a short tournament, with a total of 34 matches scheduled for next season.

Teams so far:

Sharjah Warriors:

Moeen Ali (Eng), Dawid Malan (Eng), Evin Lewis (WI), Mohammad Nabi (Afg), Chris Woakes (Eng), Noor Ahmad (Afg), Rahmanullah Gurbaz (Afg), Naveen-ul-Haq (Afg), Tom Kohler-Cadmore (Eng, uncapped), Chris Benjamin (Eng uncapped), Danny Briggs (Eng), Mark Deyal (WI, uncapped), Bilal Khan (Oman), JJ Smit (Namibia)

Dubai Capitals:

Rovman Powell, Dushmantha Chameera, Hazratullah Zazai, Fabian Allen, Mujeeb Ur Rahman, Sikandar Raza, Niroshan Dickwella, Dasun Shanaka, Bhanuka Rajapaksa, Dan Lawrence, Blessing Muzarabani, Isuru Udana, George Munsey, Fred Klaassen

MI Emirates:

Kieron Pollard, Dwayne Bravo, Nicholas Pooran, Trent Boult, Andre Fletcher, Imran Tahir, Samit Patel, Will Smeed, Jordan Thompson, Najibullah Zadran, Zahir Khan, Fazalhaq Farooqui, Bradley Wheal, Bas De Leede

Gulf Giants:

Shimron Hetmyer, Chris Jordan, Chris Lynn, James Vince, Tom Banton, Dominic Drakes, David Wiese, Liam Dawson, Jamie Overton, Qais Ahmad, Richard Gleeson, Ollie Pope, Rehan Ahmed, Wayne Lee

Abu Dhabi Knight Riders:

Sunil Narine, Andre Russell, Akeal Hosein, Raymon Reifer, Kennar Lewis, Ravi Rampaul (all from West Indies), Jonny Bairstow (England), Paul Stirling (Ireland), Lahiru Kumara, Charith Asalanka, Seekkuge Prasanna (trio from Sri Lanka), Colin Ingram (South Africa), Ali Khan (USA), Brandon Glover (The Netherlands)

[tomos81]

I think there could be some substitution of the DLS system right now. we have come a long way since that DLS system was introduced. I know that the DLS system has been revised probably a couple of times but I really think it is a bit outdated right now. I obviously realize that the earlier system Brought the target of 22 runs from 13 balls to 22 runs from 1 ball. and if I am not wrong DLS was introduced almost right after that. so it has been a long time and I think  this matter needs to be seriously looked into

DLS was revised once or twice after it was introduced. At this point, it is the most unbiased system available. And they do modify the DLS targets based on the results from completed matches. And regarding the 5th match between Ireland and Afghanistan, I don't know why everyone is just assuming that Afghanistan could have scored a lot of runs in the final 5 overs. It could have gone just the opposite way. Ireland pacers were in very good form and they could have wrapped up the Afghan middle and lower order quickly.

Afghanistan had 5 wickets in hand and that is certainly enough for the last 5 overs in my opinion. I think they could have at least pushed for 130/135. That wouldn't have made a big difference when the DLS method stepped in though. But if this was a match of whole 40 overs I think Afghanistan would have had a better chance because they have very good bowlers. And if they had the time they also might have the capability of making a comeback in this match. But yes that never happened and we all just guess. The reality is is Afghanistan lost the series to Ireland which I thought shouldn't have happened.

Afghanistan and the line is very strong but they can't do anything in time Afghanistan Sometimes I see that they play a very bad game that they have no idea how to keep playing, they have no idea that they are losing today, I think Afghanistan can beat all teams if they play well.  Especially in batting, if they say well, they have to do well, both will be seen together in the last moment, they will win,

Afghanistan is a team that can beat any team in the world.  I agree with you.  Because the Afghanistan team has world famous spinners and good quality batsmen who can turn the tide of any match in just a short span of time.  But I think they took Ireland lightly and now they are paying the price.  Afghanistan should have played more aggressively and seriously.  If they had played seriously then maybe the result of this match or this series could have been different.

[coinerer]

I think there could be some substitution of the DLS system right now. we have come a long way since that DLS system was introduced. I know that the DLS system has been revised probably a couple of times but I really think it is a bit outdated right now. I obviously realize that the earlier system Brought the target of 22 runs from 13 balls to 22 runs from 1 ball. and if I am not wrong DLS was introduced almost right after that. so it has been a long time and I think  this matter needs to be seriously looked into

DLS was revised once or twice after it was introduced. At this point, it is the most unbiased system available. And they do modify the DLS targets based on the results from completed matches. And regarding the 5th match between Ireland and Afghanistan, I don't know why everyone is just assuming that Afghanistan could have scored a lot of runs in the final 5 overs. It could have gone just the opposite way. Ireland pacers were in very good form and they could have wrapped up the Afghan middle and lower order quickly.

Afghanistan had 5 wickets in hand and that is certainly enough for the last 5 overs in my opinion. I think they could have at least pushed for 130/135. That wouldn't have made a big difference when the DLS method stepped in though. But if this was a match of whole 40 overs I think Afghanistan would have had a better chance because they have very good bowlers. And if they had the time they also might have the capability of making a comeback in this match. But yes that never happened and we all just guess. The reality is is Afghanistan lost the series to Ireland which I thought shouldn't have happened.

Afghanistan and the line is very strong but they can't do anything in time Afghanistan Sometimes I see that they play a very bad game that they have no idea how to keep playing, they have no idea that they are losing today, I think Afghanistan can beat all teams if they play well.  Especially in batting, if they say well, they have to do well, both will be seen together in the last moment, they will win,

Afghanistan is a team that can beat any team in the world.  I agree with you.  Because the Afghanistan team has world famous spinners and good quality batsmen who can turn the tide of any match in just a short span of time.  But I think they took Ireland lightly and now they are paying the price.  Afghanistan should have played more aggressively and seriously.  If they had played seriously then maybe the result of this match or this series could have been different.

The cricket world thought that Afghanistan win the series. But they didn't get that scope from the Ireland despite having world famous players in the team, they lost the series. Like you I think they may have taken the series callously. opposed Ireland did not give up, they continued to try their best.

[Rigon]

I think there could be some substitution of the DLS system right now. we have come a long way since that DLS system was introduced. I know that the DLS system has been revised probably a couple of times but I really think it is a bit outdated right now. I obviously realize that the earlier system Brought the target of 22 runs from 13 balls to 22 runs from 1 ball. and if I am not wrong DLS was introduced almost right after that. so it has been a long time and I think  this matter needs to be seriously looked into

DLS was revised once or twice after it was introduced. At this point, it is the most unbiased system available. And they do modify the DLS targets based on the results from completed matches. And regarding the 5th match between Ireland and Afghanistan, I don't know why everyone is just assuming that Afghanistan could have scored a lot of runs in the final 5 overs. It could have gone just the opposite way. Ireland pacers were in very good form and they could have wrapped up the Afghan middle and lower order quickly.

Afghanistan had 5 wickets in hand and that is certainly enough for the last 5 overs in my opinion. I think they could have at least pushed for 130/135. That wouldn't have made a big difference when the DLS method stepped in though. But if this was a match of whole 40 overs I think Afghanistan would have had a better chance because they have very good bowlers. And if they had the time they also might have the capability of making a comeback in this match. But yes that never happened and we all just guess. The reality is is Afghanistan lost the series to Ireland which I thought shouldn't have happened.

Afghanistan and the line is very strong but they can't do anything in time Afghanistan Sometimes I see that they play a very bad game that they have no idea how to keep playing, they have no idea that they are losing today, I think Afghanistan can beat all teams if they play well.  Especially in batting, if they say well, they have to do well, both will be seen together in the last moment, they will win,

Afghanistan is a team that can beat any team in the world.  I agree with you.  Because the Afghanistan team has world famous spinners and good quality batsmen who can turn the tide of any match in just a short span of time.  But I think they took Ireland lightly and now they are paying the price.  Afghanistan should have played more aggressively and seriously.  If they had played seriously then maybe the result of this match or this series could have been different.

Afghanistan is most perfect for this because their batting and spinners are very good due to which they can counter any team. Afghanistan plays very well with any team so the only tool is to say their spinner does the most for their team. Afghanistan is likely to move towards further development very soon. Ireland is a normal team for Afghanistan as their spinner ball is not very effective due to which they cannot counter Afghanistan.

[topman21]

I think there could be some substitution of the DLS system right now. we have come a long way since that DLS system was introduced. I know that the DLS system has been revised probably a couple of times but I really think it is a bit outdated right now. I obviously realize that the earlier system Brought the target of 22 runs from 13 balls to 22 runs from 1 ball. and if I am not wrong DLS was introduced almost right after that. so it has been a long time and I think  this matter needs to be seriously looked into

DLS was revised once or twice after it was introduced. At this point, it is the most unbiased system available. And they do modify the DLS targets based on the results from completed matches. And regarding the 5th match between Ireland and Afghanistan, I don't know why everyone is just assuming that Afghanistan could have scored a lot of runs in the final 5 overs. It could have gone just the opposite way. Ireland pacers were in very good form and they could have wrapped up the Afghan middle and lower order quickly.

Afghanistan had 5 wickets in hand and that is certainly enough for the last 5 overs in my opinion. I think they could have at least pushed for 130/135. That wouldn't have made a big difference when the DLS method stepped in though. But if this was a match of whole 40 overs I think Afghanistan would have had a better chance because they have very good bowlers. And if they had the time they also might have the capability of making a comeback in this match. But yes that never happened and we all just guess. The reality is is Afghanistan lost the series to Ireland which I thought shouldn't have happened.

Afghanistan and the line is very strong but they can't do anything in time Afghanistan Sometimes I see that they play a very bad game that they have no idea how to keep playing, they have no idea that they are losing today, I think Afghanistan can beat all teams if they play well.  Especially in batting, if they say well, they have to do well, both will be seen together in the last moment, they will win,

Afghanistan is a team that can beat any team in the world.  I agree with you.  Because the Afghanistan team has world famous spinners and good quality batsmen who can turn the tide of any match in just a short span of time.  But I think they took Ireland lightly and now they are paying the price.  Afghanistan should have played more aggressively and seriously.  If they had played seriously then maybe the result of this match or this series could have been different.

The cricket world thought that Afghanistan win the series. But they didn't get that scope from the Ireland despite having world famous players in the team, they lost the series. Like you I think they may have taken the series callously. opposed Ireland did not give up, they continued to try their best.

Afghanistan had won the series against Zimbabwe in the previous series against Ireland but everyone thought that Afghanistan might be Ireland.You can lose very easily but the opposite happened. In the last match, Ireland defeated DLS by 7 wickets and won the series 3-2. Although I was a supporter of Afghanistan, I was very happy that the series was won by a weak team, Ireland.

[posi]

Afghanistan had won the series against Zimbabwe in the previous series against Ireland but everyone thought that Afghanistan might be Ireland.You can lose very easily but the opposite happened. In the last match, Ireland defeated DLS by 7 wickets and won the series 3-2. Although I was a supporter of Afghanistan, I was very happy that the series was won by a weak team, Ireland.

As Ireland has performed in the last two series, there is no way to call them weak. If they can fix their bowling weaknesses, Ireland can overtake the likes of Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka in a matter of days. The main strength of the Ireland squad is their batting line-up. Ireland's management should think about how to make their bowlers more experienced.

[Sithara007]

As Ireland has performed in the last two series, there is no way to call them weak. If they can fix their bowling weaknesses, Ireland can overtake the likes of Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka in a matter of days. The main strength of the Ireland squad is their batting line-up. Ireland's management should think about how to make their bowlers more experienced.

Their batting looks OK. Paul Stirling is regarded as one of the best T20 batsmen right now. Andy Balbirnie is also in good form. On top of that, Lorcan Tucker and Harry Tector have shown a lot of promise. Even their lower order batsmen such as Mark Adair have shown a lot of improvement in the batting. Bowling is the weak spot. Spin bowlers (Simi Singh and Dockrell) simply doesn't have international standards. Pace bowlers are a little bit better, but still horribly inconsistent. Towards the depth overs, they have leaked plenty of runs.

[Vaskiy]

Asia Cup 2022 Schedule

Aug 27   Sri Lanka vs Afghanistan, 1st Match, Group B   
Aug 28   India vs Pakistan, 2nd Match, Group A
Aug 30   Bangladesh vs Afghanistan, 3rd Match, Group B   
Aug 31   India vs TBC, 4th Match, Group A
Sep 1   Sri Lanka vs Bangladesh, 5th Match, Group B   
Sep 2   Pakistan vs TBC, 6th Match, Group A
Sep 3   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 1 (B1 v B2)
Sep 4   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 2 (A1 v A2)
Sep 6   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 3 (A1 v B1)
Sep 7   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 4 (A2 v B2)
Sep 8   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 5 (A1 v B2)
Sep 9   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 6 (B1 v A2)
Sep 11   TBC vs TBC, Final   

Which teams have got the chance of reaching the final.

[tomos81]

Asia Cup 2022 Schedule

Aug 27   Sri Lanka vs Afghanistan, 1st Match, Group B   
Aug 28   India vs Pakistan, 2nd Match, Group A
Aug 30   Bangladesh vs Afghanistan, 3rd Match, Group B   
Aug 31   India vs TBC, 4th Match, Group A
Sep 1   Sri Lanka vs Bangladesh, 5th Match, Group B   
Sep 2   Pakistan vs TBC, 6th Match, Group A
Sep 3   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 1 (B1 v B2)
Sep 4   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 2 (A1 v A2)
Sep 6   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 3 (A1 v B1)
Sep 7   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 4 (A2 v B2)
Sep 8   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 5 (A1 v B2)
Sep 9   TBC vs TBC, Super Four, Match 6 (B1 v A2)
Sep 11   TBC vs TBC, Final   

Which teams have got the chance of reaching the final.

As always, Pakistan and India will be hot favorites in this Asia Cup But I will put India more ahead. Because currently India is in great form in T20 cricket The last IPL has produced many quality players who are also T20 experts I think BCCI will make the team for this Asia Cup with best quality players However, Bangladesh and Afghanistan can shine a little in this Asia Cup.

[dezoel]

As always, Pakistan and India will be hot favorites in this Asia Cup But I will put India more ahead. Because currently India is in great form in T20 cricket The last IPL has produced many quality players who are also T20 experts I think BCCI will make the team for this Asia Cup with best quality players However, Bangladesh and Afghanistan can shine a little in this Asia Cup.

For me India is clearly favourite for this event as now Pakistan's chances are slim because they already lost their main bowler due to knee injury with this now most chances they have few chances for qualifying into final because they have no good track record in this Asia Cup mostly India and Sri Lanka doing better performance with India won this event 7 times, Sri Lanka won 5 times and Pakistan just two times with this and know without their star player they could be badly down and out for title race.

India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Afghanistan will be in semifinal, and then we will have India vs Sri Lanka final which is going to be very interesting and India going to win this title for 8th record time because they are at their best and with this win most chances they could be very good for T20 World Cup as well because now players are improving and doing good in last few matches.

[coinerer]

Afghanistan is most perfect for this because their batting and spinners are very good due to which they can counter any team. Afghanistan plays very well with any team so the only tool is to say their spinner does the most for their team. Afghanistan is likely to move towards further development very soon. Ireland is a normal team for Afghanistan as their spinner ball is not very effective due to which they cannot counter Afghanistan.

Afghanistan's cricketers are famous for spinners attract. But the spin ball will not be perfect on all pitches. Afghanistan's bowlers could not attack much against Ireland. For which they had to lose the matches. Here we must admire Ireland who are playing well. They won the matches because of their good performance.

[pakhitheboss]

About! Asia cup. The only match that I am interested and want to put my money in it is the one that will happen on Aug 28   between India vs Pakistan. I am sure this match will have a close outcome as this match requires nerves and handle the pressure. I am sure Virat Kohli will be part of the team and if he is good he will deliver, otherwise their is  a good chance of him getting kicked off.

[GigaBit]

About! Asia cup. The only match that I am interested and want to put my money in it is the one that will happen on Aug 28   between India vs Pakistan. I am sure this match will have a close outcome as this match requires nerves and handle the pressure. I am sure Virat Kohli will be part of the team and if he is good he will deliver, otherwise their is  a good chance of him getting kicked off.

Naturally, The cricket world is eagerly waiting for the match between India and Pakistan. These two teams have the highest support ৃacross the world. Dubai International Cricket Stadium may be full on that day. That match will be the highlight of the entire Asia Cup game. Virat Kohli will also get a chance he will try to utilize that. If he can perform well in that match, he will definitely add to the T20 world cup squad.

[smartaction]

About! Asia cup. The only match that I am interested and want to put my money in it is the one that will happen on Aug 28   between India vs Pakistan. I am sure this match will have a close outcome as this match requires nerves and handle the pressure. I am sure Virat Kohli will be part of the team and if he is good he will deliver, otherwise their is  a good chance of him getting kicked off.

You can put your money on anywhere it is your personal matter but if your money is a very needed for your Daily expenses then i will suggest you do not put your money on gambling . specially it is very hard to guess winning or any otherwise betting purpose on Cricket game. so gamble with Cricket is high risky . i just share my opinion the rest is your own decision

[SirLancelot]

About! Asia cup. The only match that I am interested and want to put my money in it is the one that will happen on Aug 28   between India vs Pakistan. I am sure this match will have a close outcome as this match requires nerves and handle the pressure. I am sure Virat Kohli will be part of the team and if he is good he will deliver, otherwise their is  a good chance of him getting kicked off.

Naturally, The cricket world is eagerly waiting for the match between India and Pakistan. These two teams have the highest support ৃacross the world. Dubai International Cricket Stadium may be full on that day. That match will be the highlight of the entire Asia Cup game. Virat Kohli will also get a chance he will try to utilize that. If he can perform well in that match, he will definitely add to the T20 world cup squad.

Now, things are drastically changes in cricket, and I am feeling love for cricket is already ended which we have few decades back now money involvement is having his own impact and with this India is the most beneficiary party, and surely they are enjoying this all just because of having big market and now strong system thanks to IPL I just check due to political instability now peoples in Pakistan are not had any interest like peoples having in India.

Surely this is going to be big match but most chances now India will be dominating this time because they have their lessons from last defeat against Pakistan and Shaheen Afridi is now also out of this Asia Cup which is surely going to hurt them badly.