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July 19, 2022, 10:04:12 AM
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Tamim Iqbal is now the captain of the Bangladesh ODI team. And I think he might now want to focus more on the ODI format. And so he is distancing himself from T20 and Test format. Bangladesh wants to qualify for at least the semi-finals of the upcoming ODI World Cup. And so it's time for Iqbal to do better in the ODI format to make himself more useful for the team.
Bangladesh has done well in ODI format recently. If you check the points table for ICC Cricket World Cup Super League, they are at 2nd position with 12 wins from 18 games. England is ahead of them by just 5 points. Their weak points are T20 and test cricket, and for now we can ignore them. If the main players such as Tamim, Litton, Shakib and Mustafizur remains in form, then I don't think that reaching the semi-finals will be a big hassle for them. Also, the conditions will be familiar for them, as the tournament will take place in India.

You are right. If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.

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July 19, 2022, 06:18:10 PM
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If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.
Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results and better quality players recently I was checking about Bangladesh domestic set up which is full of corruption and having no main authority which can handle things in positive way its surely big concern for them with political influence is also bringing bad impact now they have few good cricketers which can handle things at domestic level so better give them jobs and with work on all formats will be profitable and positive change in their game.

Recently their BPL is doing good job with having some good revenue, but they are not doing good things for overall cricket which is surely having the worst mindset for them in near future.

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July 19, 2022, 06:29:57 PM
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If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.
Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results
A few days ago the enthusiasm of the cricketers that was seen in Bangladesh cricket is disappear. There is some kind of contradiction in the team which will hamper their cricket. They played well in ODIs against West Indies but as the T20 World Cup is around the corner, they should have a quick communication with everyone involved in the team.

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July 19, 2022, 11:57:08 PM
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If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.
Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results
A few days ago the enthusiasm of the cricketers that was seen in Bangladesh cricket is disappear. There is some kind of contradiction in the team which will hamper their cricket. They played well in ODIs against West Indies but as the T20 World Cup is around the corner, they should have a quick communication with everyone involved in the team.
I think Bangladesh team is very perfect to play ODI.They played 3 ODI matches against West Indies but managed to get a big win by defeating West Indies.In T20 though he played very badly. West Indies are too strong to play T20 matches. Still on the soil of their country. It is difficult to play T20 with them in different countries.But I want to say that the Bangladesh team should be prepared in the T20 game as well as in the ODI game. They have to perform very strongly in the upcoming T20 matches.
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July 20, 2022, 02:22:26 AM
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You are right. If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.

The world cup will be hosted by India in around one year from now and Bangladesh needs to focus on that. Ever since they got the test status in 1999, they have never managed to win any of the ICC tournaments. This time it is a good opportunity, given their performances so far in the ODI Super League. At this point, they have the right mix of experience and talent, while some of the other teams are in the rebuilding phase. Rather than targeting for the semi-finals, they should actually target winning the trophy next year.

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Tamim Iqbal is not too old. He could easily have continued playing in the T20 format for another 3/4 years. But I don't understand why he is thinking of retiring now. Bangladesh is yet to find a suitable replacement for Tamim Iqbal. There is no good opener in any Bangladesh squad. So if Tamim Iqbal retires now then the Bangladesh team will definitely face a problem. Tamim should be with the team for the next World Cup.
Tamim Iqbal is one of the best product from Bangladesh in cricket, and he plays some good innings for his country which was honor for player like him and if he announces this then surely we need to respect his decision because he feels in this way which is good for youngsters, and he wants to concentrate on two formats which is also good for him after the worst start of West Indian tour then end in amazing way which is surely a proud moment for Bangladesh cricket now they are second in ODI League table behind England which is another milestone for them.

Even he already announces about retirement from T20i but still he needs to give one favor and if he announces after T-20 world cup this could be better, but he already announces so no one can do anything right now with his decision.
Tamim Iqbal is a very nice player. But bangladesh team has always remained in criticism.
If he has done this decision - we must respect his decision.

I feel that it’s a step in the right direction, because he hasn’t played T20 since March 2020 for Bangladesh and now the team can prepare accordingly as the speculation regarding his involvement in the T20 format has ended. Furthermore the only regret I have is why didn’t he wait for the T20 World Cup because he could have easily participated in it, but in the end I feel that this is a gutsy call choosing ODI & Test matches over T20.
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You are right. If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.

The world cup will be hosted by India in around one year from now and Bangladesh needs to focus on that. Ever since they got the test status in 1999, they have never managed to win any of the ICC tournaments. This time it is a good opportunity, given their performances so far in the ODI Super League. At this point, they have the right mix of experience and talent, while some of the other teams are in the rebuilding phase. Rather than targeting for the semi-finals, they should actually target winning the trophy next year.
Their bowlers are generally good on slow wickets or when it assist the spinners, that can't be said about seamers may be except Mustafizur Rahman. Indian wickets should suit their brand of cricket, just hope Shakib also show up with the bat.

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Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results
A few days ago the enthusiasm of the cricketers that was seen in Bangladesh cricket is disappear. There is some kind of contradiction in the team which will hamper their cricket. They played well in ODIs against West Indies but as the T20 World Cup is around the corner, they should have a quick communication with everyone involved in the team.
Now we have less than three months, and they have no enough time for settling things in this short period, but they can manage for long run because things could be settled properly can give them some better results in future if they want to go ahead as better team in this era where too many associates looking for better place, and they are declined without any solid reason in this format.

As they are having franchise league which is helping many countries for having new and quality talented players they can produce as well but for this surely need better policy and coordination because without team management nothing is possible and without this all they have never been good and strong for this format which is having bright future instead of ODI.

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I feel that it’s a step in the right direction, because he hasn’t played T20 since March 2020 for Bangladesh and now the team can prepare accordingly as the speculation regarding his involvement in the T20 format has ended. Furthermore the only regret I have is why didn’t he wait for the T20 World Cup because he could have easily participated in it, but in the end I feel that this is a gutsy call choosing ODI & Test matches over T20.
If a player feels that he should retire from a format I think it is the right decision. Because if the player does not get the confidence then good output cannot be expected there. Since Tamim will be playing ODI and Test matches I think he has more chances to do well those format. As we know that Ben Stokes he also retire form ODI is 31 years. So it is basically depend on that particular player what he wants to do.



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Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results
A few days ago the enthusiasm of the cricketers that was seen in Bangladesh cricket is disappear. There is some kind of contradiction in the team which will hamper their cricket. They played well in ODIs against West Indies but as the T20 World Cup is around the corner, they should have a quick communication with everyone involved in the team.
Now we have less than three months, and they have no enough time for settling things in this short period, but they can manage for long run because things could be settled properly can give them some better results in future if they want to go ahead as better team in this era where too many associates looking for better place, and they are declined without any solid reason in this format.
As they are having franchise league which is helping many countries for having new and quality talented players they can produce as well but for this surely need better policy and coordination because without team management nothing is possible and without this all they have never been good and strong for this format which is having bright future instead of ODI.

I am quite sure that Bangladesh is not going to do very well in this T20 World Cup. T20 has never been one of the strong points of Bangladesh. They have always been better in the one-day international format compared to the T20 and test format. And one thing that causes problems for the Bangladesh team is that whenever a player is playing better in one format, the selectors seem to give him the chance in the other two formats quite quickly. And then, obviously, sometimes that player cannot perform as well in the other two formats. This also ends up hurting his form in that one format, which he was skilled. So that over-eagerness must be avoided. But that’s the problem for long-term selection and they don’t have enough time for that anyway.

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I feel that it’s a step in the right direction, because he hasn’t played T20 since March 2020 for Bangladesh and now the team can prepare accordingly as the speculation regarding his involvement in the T20 format has ended. Furthermore the only regret I have is why didn’t he wait for the T20 World Cup because he could have easily participated in it, but in the end I feel that this is a gutsy call choosing ODI & Test matches over T20.
If a player feels that he should retire from a format I think it is the right decision. Because if the player does not get the confidence then good output cannot be expected there. Since Tamim will be playing ODI and Test matches I think he has more chances to do well those format. As we know that Ben Stokes he also retire form ODI is 31 years. So it is basically depend on that particular player what he wants to do.
Right now game load is having some serious impact on player's performance because too many matches with franchise league and other domestic leagues are creating serious injuries and other problems with this all if any player is feeling stress he needs to have cut short of any format which is having not good impact on his performance with recently we have Tamim and Stokes doing good things.

Because, this can bring some better authority on their game with we already have from Stuart Broad and James Andersson they are playing only test matches which are giving them less stress, and they are giving the best performance specially Andersson at the age of 40 is super fit sports person for me this is good example for many others those want to stay here for long time without any load which can hurt their career and performance.
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Hmm this is interesting. I guess this is clear indication where are we going in a long run in terms of bilateral cricket.
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https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/123154/cricket-south-africa-graeme-smith-confirm-ipl-sweep-of-t20-league-ownership

Writing on the wall is clear. Franchise cricket will take preference over international cricket and then Indian firms will dominate the franchise sector around the world (especially in countries outside the pig-4). It is not just with the upcoming T20 league in South Africa. A number of franchises in CPL, MLC and UAE T20 league are directly owned by the IPL franchises. And I believe that this will be beneficial for cricket. Similar to football, cricket also need to move to a structure that is dominated by the clubs rather than national boards.

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Hmm this is interesting. I guess this is clear indication where are we going in a long run in terms of bilateral cricket.
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https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/123154/cricket-south-africa-graeme-smith-confirm-ipl-sweep-of-t20-league-ownership

Writing on the wall is clear. Franchise cricket will take preference over international cricket and then Indian firms will dominate the franchise sector around the world (especially in countries outside the pig-4). It is not just with the upcoming T20 league in South Africa. A number of franchises in CPL, MLC and UAE T20 league are directly owned by the IPL franchises. And I believe that this will be beneficial for cricket. Similar to football, cricket also need to move to a structure that is dominated by the clubs rather than national boards.
Yeah this space is going to change drastically but after 4-5 years during next IPL media rights deal.

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July 21, 2022, 09:46:09 AM
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Hmm this is interesting. I guess this is clear indication where are we going in a long run in terms of bilateral cricket.
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https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/123154/cricket-south-africa-graeme-smith-confirm-ipl-sweep-of-t20-league-ownership

Writing on the wall is clear. Franchise cricket will take preference over international cricket and then Indian firms will dominate the franchise sector around the world (especially in countries outside the pig-4). It is not just with the upcoming T20 league in South Africa. A number of franchises in CPL, MLC and UAE T20 league are directly owned by the IPL franchises. And I believe that this will be beneficial for cricket. Similar to football, cricket also need to move to a structure that is dominated by the clubs rather than national boards.
Yeah this space is going to change drastically but after 4-5 years during next IPL media rights deal.

The way these franchises are expanding their footprints it seems they will now compete with each other for fixed 4-5 months every year and seriously trying to tap every new market.
Still it will take a long time for other franchise cricket to compete with IPL. Bilateral and trilateral series are already being less frequent. I reckon they will completely end in a few years time. Only ICC trophies will happen for different formats of cricket. This is what has been happening in football for a long time now the same will happen in cricket too.

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July 21, 2022, 10:41:46 AM
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Still it will take a long time for other franchise cricket to compete with IPL. Bilateral and trilateral series are already being less frequent. I reckon they will completely end in a few years time. Only ICC trophies will happen for different formats of cricket. This is what has been happening in football for a long time now the same will happen in cricket too.

Only bilateral series is happening now. Triangular and quadrangular series have all but died out. There is no room available in the packed international calendar to schedule multi-nation tournaments apart from ICC trophies. The IPL franchises on the other hand are not contended with the two and half month window available for them and want to expand outside the Indian market so that they can continue playing all through the year. But when the same set of owners take ownership of multiple franchises, there needs to be some overlap in players, so that the fans will continue to support all of their teams. Right now, there is no such overlap. For example, KKR in IPL and Trininbago Knight Riders in CPL are having same set of owners. But there is hardly any player who feature in both the teams.

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Hmm this is interesting. I guess this is clear indication where are we going in a long run in terms of bilateral cricket.
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Writing on the wall is clear. Franchise cricket will take preference over international cricket and then Indian firms will dominate the franchise sector around the world (especially in countries outside the pig-4). It is not just with the upcoming T20 league in South Africa. A number of franchises in CPL, MLC and UAE T20 league are directly owned by the IPL franchises. And I believe that this will be beneficial for cricket. Similar to football, cricket also need to move to a structure that is dominated by the clubs rather than national boards.
Yeah this space is going to change drastically but after 4-5 years during next IPL media rights deal.

The way these franchises are expanding their footprints it seems they will now compete with each other for fixed 4-5 months every year and seriously trying to tap every new market.
In terms of popularity, franchise based cricket will be established very soon and India is only worthy to dominate the cricket world. Many of us assume that India already is taking such of preparations. Just look at the football clubs where every clubs are benefited and dominate the whole world. If we think as same as in cricket then it will certainly bring good news for cricket. I have a concern in this case, Will there be any existence of ICC?

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Yeah this space is going to change drastically but after 4-5 years during next IPL media rights deal.

The way these franchises are expanding their footprints it seems they will now compete with each other for fixed 4-5 months every year and seriously trying to tap every new market.
Still it will take a long time for other franchise cricket to compete with IPL. Bilateral and trilateral series are already being less frequent. I reckon they will completely end in a few years time. Only ICC trophies will happen for different formats of cricket. This is what has been happening in football for a long time now the same will happen in cricket too.
I didn't mean to indicate that these new tournaments will compete with IPL. I was pointing fingers only towards Franchise such as MI, CSK, DC etc as these guys taking positions in every new league cricket so technically play each other for 4-5 months, starting with CPL, South African, Uae and then in IPL itself.

There is no competition for IPL as it is already miles ahead.

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July 21, 2022, 05:33:50 PM
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~snip~
Yeah this space is going to change drastically but after 4-5 years during next IPL media rights deal.

The way these franchises are expanding their footprints it seems they will now compete with each other for fixed 4-5 months every year and seriously trying to tap every new market.
Still it will take a long time for other franchise cricket to compete with IPL. Bilateral and trilateral series are already being less frequent. I reckon they will completely end in a few years time. Only ICC trophies will happen for different formats of cricket. This is what has been happening in football for a long time now the same will happen in cricket too.
I didn't mean to indicate that these new tournaments will compete with IPL. I was pointing fingers only towards Franchise such as MI, CSK, DC etc as these guys taking positions in every new league cricket so technically play each other for 4-5 months, starting with CPL, South African, Uae and then in IPL itself.

There is no competition for IPL as it is already miles ahead.

Yes, every cricketing league right now is far away from the IPL league. For now more efforts have been taken from different organising countries to make cricket more popular. At some point this franchise based cricket will serve as a problem for the ODI and test cricket. In coming days we can see schedules being adjusted against the leagues and not on the bilateral series.
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Only bilateral series is happening now. Triangular and quadrangular series have all but died out. There is no room available in the packed international calendar to schedule multi-nation tournaments apart from ICC trophies. The IPL franchises on the other hand are not contended with the two and half month window available for them and want to expand outside the Indian market so that they can continue playing all through the year. But when the same set of owners take ownership of multiple franchises, there needs to be some overlap in players, so that the fans will continue to support all of their teams. Right now, there is no such overlap. For example, KKR in IPL and Trininbago Knight Riders in CPL are having same set of owners. But there is hardly any player who feature in both the teams.
For the better future of this game they need to work on franchise because now it's future but need some good system and rules which never hurt others with this they can go ahead like UEFA is going, and they are currently one of the best system with good fan base and too much money around them.

ICC is authority which can bring them on table for fair rules and better management because these things are very important even Indians are going to control few leagues around the world but still few countries are going to have things which will be not under their control and this can create conflict which could be never been healthy.

Right now BBL, Vitality Blast, BPL and PSL are having not Indian connections which mean they also need some better treatment from ICC for good future just IPL is having special treatment is never been fair.

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I feel that it’s a step in the right direction, because he hasn’t played T20 since March 2020 for Bangladesh and now the team can prepare accordingly as the speculation regarding his involvement in the T20 format has ended. Furthermore the only regret I have is why didn’t he wait for the T20 World Cup because he could have easily participated in it, but in the end I feel that this is a gutsy call choosing ODI & Test matches over T20.
If a player feels that he should retire from a format I think it is the right decision. Because if the player does not get the confidence then good output cannot be expected there. Since Tamim will be playing ODI and Test matches I think he has more chances to do well those format. As we know that Ben Stokes he also retire form ODI is 31 years. So it is basically depend on that particular player what he wants to do.



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