T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion

[virasog]

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PCB has every right to raise this issue, why should they stop playing international cricket during IPL? Props to PCB and Rambo as they are just trying to secure their cricket board's interest, that's their main job but at the same time BCCI is also entitled to secure their product.

I have been saying this for some time. PCB will stop complaining if the foreign player release fee goes to the ICC instead of national cricket boards. Right now Pakistan and most of the smaller boards are not benefitting from the IPL, because this fee is pocketed by a handful of boards such as CA, CSA, ECB and WICB. For boards such as PCB and BCB, there is only monetary loss from this league. So their argument is also true. If the BCCI wants the ICC to keep three months every year blocked for the IPL, then the ICC needs to be compensated for it.

PCB players do not take part in the IPL. So you are suggesting that if BCCI can give money to the PCB (which they will distribute among the players too), the PCB and other small boards will not protest on the duration of the IPL?

This means that PCB players will get free money without playing or doing anything while the rest of the world will have to earn the money. Would this be fair?

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[JSRAW]

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PCB has every right to raise this issue, why should they stop playing international cricket during IPL? Props to PCB and Rambo as they are just trying to secure their cricket board's interest, that's their main job but at the same time BCCI is also entitled to secure their product.

I have been saying this for some time. PCB will stop complaining if the foreign player release fee goes to the ICC instead of national cricket boards. Right now Pakistan and most of the smaller boards are not benefitting from the IPL, because this fee is pocketed by a handful of boards such as CA, CSA, ECB and WICB. For boards such as PCB and BCB, there is only monetary loss from this league. So their argument is also true. If the BCCI wants the ICC to keep three months every year blocked for the IPL, then the ICC needs to be compensated for it.

2.5 months, not 3 months. Although in next cycle i do see possibility of IPL expanding but not in this cycle as it's fixed for 4-5 years due to contract, that means no more additional teams, matches and timeline.

I hardly find any merit on this notion that ICC should get any sort of compensation because IPL affecting only bilateral cricket not ICC tournaments, these are 2 different things.

ICC have nothing to do with the bilateral cricket as they don't earn single penny from it, all they care about ICC tournament every year, which they got already. Their intentions are clearly visible, just look at the upcoming ICC media rights auction. They saw what happened in recent IPL auction and they are also following more or less same path to get big bucks ; separate auction for tv, digital and region rights but here is a kicker there is zero transparency and last i heard virtually no broadcaster is happy about it.

Regarding about your other argument. They are free to schedule their bilateral cricket during this 2.5 month window, no one stopping them to. 

[Sithara007]

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Regarding about your other argument. They are free to schedule their bilateral cricket during this 2.5 month window, no one stopping them to.

Well... that's what they should do. And I have a feeling that PCB is underestimating their own financial clout. Pakistan is a country of 225 million cricket crazy people. The market there is much larger than that of other countries such as Bangladesh, Australia or Sri Lanka. On top of that, there is are large Pakistani diasporas in the Middle-East, Europe and North America. They should try to expand the PSL, by adding more teams from UAE, Bangladesh, Nepal and Afghanistan. Right now the PSL features 6 teams. Why can't they expand it to 10? One team each from the above mentioned countries would make PSL much more popular and in the long term they maybe able to give a stiff challenge to the IPL.

[JSRAW]

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Regarding about your other argument. They are free to schedule their bilateral cricket during this 2.5 month window, no one stopping them to.

Well... that's what they should do. And I have a feeling that PCB is underestimating their own financial clout. Pakistan is a country of 225 million cricket crazy people. The market there is much larger than that of other countries such as Bangladesh, Australia or Sri Lanka. On top of that, there is are large Pakistani diasporas in the Middle-East, Europe and North America. They should try to expand the PSL, by adding more teams from UAE, Bangladesh, Nepal and Afghanistan. Right now the PSL features 6 teams. Why can't they expand it to 10? One team each from the above mentioned countries would make PSL much more popular and in the long term they maybe able to give a stiff challenge to the IPL.

Rambo is ticking all the boxes and doing good work so they will go that way sooner than later.

I was listening to Jarrod Kimber's podcast and he mentioned that every league would love to expand their footprints but it's solely depends on local talents. After all any franchise can only entertain 3-4 marquee players in the playing XI and it's apply to every T-20 league.

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I guess UAE is also coming up with new league soon and it's clashing with the PSL's window directly.

[Sithara007]

I guess UAE is also coming up with new league soon and it's clashing with the PSL's window directly.

At this point, we have more than a dozen franchise T20 leagues around the world. And I don't think that this number is sustainable. I would like cricket to try the model of trans-national leagues like Ice Hockey. The National Hockey League have teams from US as well as Canada. It's main competitor is the Russia based KHL (Kontinental Hockey League), which is having teams from Belarus, Kazakhstan and China in addition to Russia. I don't think that Nepal or Afghanistan have the finances to set up their own league. If they participate in the PSL, it will be mutually beneficial for all the sides.  

[JohnBitCo]

I guess UAE is also coming up with a new league soon and it's clashing with the PSL's window directly.

This UAE T20 league will begin on Jan 06 and it will end on February 12 and PSL usually starts by end of feb or the start of march. So it will not clash with PSL but it may clash with bangladesh premier league or big bash league. If they offer big money to the players, then we may see players dividing among the leagues.

UAE T20 league announces early-2023 window, set for clash of dates with BBL, BPL and CSA league

[romero121]

Finally the match started with the over cut making it a 12 over match. Now we can watch a match similar to a T10 match. India after winning the toss selected to bowl. With this I expect Ireland to set a target around 100 runs. When the overs were decreased, the players want to perform from the very beginning. So, based on the first innings score the pressure over India. Even after the fall of 3 early wickets Ireland have managed to score 56 runs in 7 overs.

[virasog]

Finally the match started with the over cut making it a 12 over match. Now we can watch a match similar to a T10 match. India after winning the toss selected to bowl. With this I expect Ireland to set a target around 100 runs. When the overs were decreased, the players want to perform from the very beginning. So, based on the first innings score the pressure over India. Even after the fall of 3 early wickets Ireland have managed to score 56 runs in 7 overs.

India are favorites to win the match but since this match is reduced to 12 overs, this gives some chances for Ireland to play aggressive innings and give a big target to the Indians. The wickets will not matter in this match and players will have a free hand to score runs. The current score is 79/4 and I hope Ireland can score over 120 runs to give some good target to the Indians and make a match out of it.

[jaberwock]

Honestly, in a game like a cricket time cannot be exact. There are a lot of thoughts always going on in the mind of both the batting team and also the bowling team. And most bowlers are always fond of taking their time.

So, the restriction of time is not something that goes hand in hand with cricket. I actually think even in t10 format if it is supposed to be finished in 2 hours. I think it is going to take longer.

I don't think t-10 is going to require a lot of skills at all. And that is going to encourage a lot of countries to at least tryout cricket and see if it works out or not. Innovation is always the way to go and I also think t10 can be a breakthrough for the popularity of cricket. But probably now was not the right time.

Skills are still required because without few skills you can't play good and entertaining cricket which is need of time and surely with this T-10 format now we are going to have bigger market and more viewer ship. Few years back most of the peoples were not sure about T-20 that it's going to be popular but right now we have nearly one dozen franchise leagues around the glob and good deserving entertainment, so hopefully this will be more after we will have one big exposure of T-10 from any big board then no-one will be able to stop this storm.

With this format ODI could be died, and we will be able to have only these two formats which are good enough for staying in good shape Test matches and T-10 hopefully someone will give his own comments about this as well.

[eaLiTy]

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With this format ODI could be died, and we will be able to have only these two formats which are good enough for staying in good shape Test matches and T-10 hopefully someone will give his own comments about this as well.

I am really happy to see T 10 as an entertainer as all the bowlers are taken for granted and the batsman keeps swinging the bat but i do not think that all the major teams will be taking on that. T20 is the best format for everyone who do not have time to enjoy the match, i do not want to see matches getting shorter and International teams playing that as it will be really hard to predict any matches.
India won the first match against Ireland pretty easily even though the match was reduced to 12 overs a side and this is the trend i am expecting in this series, unless Ireland proves otherwise .

[virasog]

India won the first match against Ireland pretty easily even though the match was reduced to 12 overs a side and this is the trend i am expecting in this series, unless Ireland proves otherwise .

Thank god that the India-Ireland series consists of only two T20 matches, otherwise we might have to watch the boring matches between the two team which have no competition between them. The 2nd and the final match between these two teams will be played tomorrow and surely, India will win this series by 2-0  

[dezoel]

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With this format ODI could be died, and we will be able to have only these two formats which are good enough for staying in good shape Test matches and T-10 hopefully someone will give his own comments about this as well.

I am really happy to see T 10 as an entertainer as all the bowlers are taken for granted and the batsman keeps swinging the bat but i do not think that all the major teams will be taking on that. T20 is the best format for everyone who do not have time to enjoy the match, i do not want to see matches getting shorter and International teams playing that as it will be really hard to predict any matches.

If with the consultation of both teams they settle for T-10 then surely it's going to be amazing because they already lost time and this could be more entertainment for viewers around the globe. Still we have some good bowling and batting from both teams, I was expecting less than 100 runs, but they manage in good way and have good target of 109.

Indian young firepower after having very good time in IPL still in good touch, and they achieve their target in less than ten overs which is good for them and this will give them good confidence for their rest of tour as they are also going to face English team which just thrash Netherlands and now waiting for tough challenge from this Indian young side.

[teosanru]

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With this format ODI could be died, and we will be able to have only these two formats which are good enough for staying in good shape Test matches and T-10 hopefully someone will give his own comments about this as well.

I am really happy to see T 10 as an entertainer as all the bowlers are taken for granted and the batsman keeps swinging the bat but i do not think that all the major teams will be taking on that. T20 is the best format for everyone who do not have time to enjoy the match, i do not want to see matches getting shorter and International teams playing that as it will be really hard to predict any matches.
India won the first match against Ireland pretty easily even though the match was reduced to 12 overs a side and this is the trend i am expecting in this series, unless Ireland proves otherwise .

I was really not thinking that Ireland would be so easy to defeat especially in the t20 format where games can be very unpredictable. Maybe the match getting reduced to 12 over a side would have had an impact on the performance, as it's easier for a team like India to adapt in these situations. But anyway it's just two matches I am treating it more like 2- tour matches before the beginning of the actual fighting series against England which really would be a real test for the Indian team both in t20 as well as ODI series.

[noormcs5]

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With this format ODI could be died, and we will be able to have only these two formats which are good enough for staying in good shape Test matches and T-10 hopefully someone will give his own comments about this as well.

I am really happy to see T 10 as an entertainer as all the bowlers are taken for granted and the batsman keeps swinging the bat but i do not think that all the major teams will be taking on that. T20 is the best format for everyone who do not have time to enjoy the match, i do not want to see matches getting shorter and International teams playing that as it will be really hard to predict any matches.
India won the first match against Ireland pretty easily even though the match was reduced to 12 overs a side and this is the trend i am expecting in this series, unless Ireland proves otherwise .

I was really not thinking that Ireland would be so easy to defeat especially in the t20 format where games can be very unpredictable. Maybe the match getting reduced to 12 over a side would have had an impact on the performance, as it's easier for a team like India to adapt in these situations. But anyway it's just two matches I am treating it more like 2- tour matches before the beginning of the actual fighting series against England which really would be a real test for the Indian team both in t20 as well as ODI series.

Indian team may take these two matches against Ireland as a practice before the tour to England, though India will be playing the test match with England. Do we have any T-20 and ODI in this series as you mentioned?
As per my knowledge, India will be playing the 5th test against England in Birmingham and that's all.

[Vaskiy]

Indian team may take these two matches against Ireland as a practice before the tour to England, though India will be playing the test match with England. Do we have any T-20 and ODI in this series as you mentioned?
As per my knowledge, India will be playing the 5th test against England in Birmingham and that's all.

There is a three matches T20 series and three matches ODI followed by the test match. Till 17th July we can see some hard fighting matches between these two. Also this series seems like having a big history, because the promotions were made in such a way to reach the audience.

[pakhitheboss]

India won the first match against Ireland pretty easily even though the match was reduced to 12 overs a side and this is the trend i am expecting in this series, unless Ireland proves otherwise .

Thank god that the India-Ireland series consists of only two T20 matches, otherwise we might have to watch the boring matches between the two team which have no competition between them. The 2nd and the final match between these two teams will be played tomorrow and surely, India will win this series by 2-0  

Absolutely correct! No comparison between both the sides. It was an easy win for India yesterday. What made me happy was to see Stake.com advertising their platform in this match. Intelligent way to promote a gambling platform in India.  I also think Ireland do not have a proper cricket stadium and as usual the crowd was full of Indian expats.

[virasog]

India won the first match against Ireland pretty easily even though the match was reduced to 12 overs a side and this is the trend i am expecting in this series, unless Ireland proves otherwise .

Thank god that the India-Ireland series consists of only two T20 matches, otherwise we might have to watch the boring matches between the two team which have no competition between them. The 2nd and the final match between these two teams will be played tomorrow and surely, India will win this series by 2-0  

Absolutely correct! No comparison between both the sides. It was an easy win for India yesterday. What made me happy was to see Stake.com advertising their platform in this match. Intelligent way to promote a gambling platform in India.  I also think Ireland do not have a proper cricket stadium and as usual the crowd was full of Indian expats.

The match wasn't held in India, however, it was a good move by stake to sponsor this series. Not only many Asian people will come to know about stake site but at the same time when people will explore stake, they will be introduced to cryptocurrencies and bitcoins.  (As many people and cricket lovers are still not aware of crypto and prefer to contact bookies to bet on matches.

[laurenB7742]

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I partially agree with your point but because of this very reason T-20 was invented in the first place as ODI goes for 8 hours. It's not format's fault that teams are taking unnecessary tactical breaks and deliberately wasting time during death overs, broadcaster also love this as it gives them extra time slot for the ads.

Time-wasting is something that goes on in almost every game. Even in football which is absolutely everything about time we can see a lot of teams wasting time if they are in the lead. So, cricket is also going to have time resting and in a game where time is not one of the most important issues, it is going to be a lot worse.

I don’t think anyone can blame the players for anyone else for wasting time because it gives them the slight advantage that they sometimes need. It also gives time for some ads so a lot of people I did not even going to complain about it If you know what I mean.

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Skills are still required because without few skills you can't play good and entertaining cricket which is need of time and surely with this T-10 format now we are going to have bigger market and more viewer ship. Few years back most of the peoples were not sure about T-20 that it's going to be popular but right now we have nearly one dozen franchise leagues around the glob and good deserving entertainment, so hopefully this will be more after we will have one big exposure of T-10 from any big board then no-one will be able to stop this storm.

With this format ODI could be died, and we will be able to have only these two formats which are good enough for staying in good shape Test matches and T-10 hopefully someone will give his own comments about this as well.

We have seen a lot of tactics being applied in both ODI and T20 cricket which involve taking things really slow and whenever a team is in trouble they try to slow the pace so that it breaks the concentration of the opponent team. But I think with the T-10 format it is going to be really fast-paced cricket. It is going to be everything about momentum. That team which has the momentum with them is going to have better chances of winning. Because in a fast-paced environment it is really hard to stop the team which can grab momentum. And yes with this format I think the ODI is going to die. Also, the T20 format is not going to be the most popular format of cricket anymore.

[GigaBit]

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With this format ODI could be died, and we will be able to have only these two formats which are good enough for staying in good shape Test matches and T-10 hopefully someone will give his own comments about this as well.

I am really happy to see T 10 as an entertainer as all the bowlers are taken for granted and the batsman keeps swinging the bat but i do not think that all the major teams will be taking on that. T20 is the best format for everyone who do not have time to enjoy the match, i do not want to see matches getting shorter and International teams playing that as it will be really hard to predict any matches.
India won the first match against Ireland pretty easily even though the match was reduced to 12 overs a side and this is the trend i am expecting in this series, unless Ireland proves otherwise .

I was really not thinking that Ireland would be so easy to defeat especially in the t20 format where games can be very unpredictable. Maybe the match getting reduced to 12 over a side would have had an impact on the performance, as it's easier for a team like India to adapt in these situations. But anyway it's just two matches I am treating it more like 2- tour matches before the beginning of the actual fighting series against England which really would be a real test for the Indian team both in t20 as well as ODI series.

We didn’t see the 20 ovess in the first match. The game was reduced due to rain. Ireland lost 4 wickets for 122 runs in 12 overs and India reached the winning port in 9.2 overs for 3 wickets. There is no doubt that India will win the 2nd match but it cannot be given 100% guarantee. There is one more T20 match. Maybe the next match will be full 20 overs and would be more enjoyable.

[pakhitheboss]

PCB has every right to raise this issue, why should they stop playing international cricket during IPL? Props to PCB and Rambo as they are just trying to secure their cricket board's interest, that's their main job but at the same time BCCI is also entitled to secure their product.

Do you think that BCCI product IPL is not secured and still they need to block it for 3 months?  If this is how it works, I suggest extending the tournament for full 12 months  
Remember the lengthier the tournament, people will lose interest.

ICC does not have any governance on domestic cricket therefore ICC cannot ask for any money from BCCI. Other boards can still schedule their international matches when IPL is played but the question is that will those players play for their country or will they play for the franchise. Let the players decide.

Most of the players run after the money and they do not care for the country even though it's their country that brought them to this level.

In simple words you mean to say money is more important for a player over his country. If IPL allows Pakistan player now, they will leave their countries game to play for IPL. The problem here is that India will not allow Pakistani players till this ruling party is defeated in election.

Now, PCB can scream but ICC will not hear it unless there are other big boards. Which will never happen unless they generate huge revenue.  Therefore IPL will win but bilateral matches will lose somewhat similar to EPL.