2020 Democrats

[Spendulus]

Harris is in no way moderate. By some metrics, she is to the left of Sanders who is widely seen in the Democratic Party as unelectable.

Some people are saying that she is one reason why we have the Bill of Rights, although if Democrats win the Senate and Congress along with the Presidency, we probably won’t have Bill of Rights anymore. She is willing to do anything for power, regardless of anyone’s pesky constitutional rights.

Left of Sanders? You seriously believe that?

If anything Kamala Harris is a conservative.

Harris is the left-most senator.

[TwitchySeal]

Harris is in no way moderate. By some metrics, she is to the left of Sanders who is widely seen in the Democratic Party as unelectable.

Some people are saying that she is one reason why we have the Bill of Rights, although if Democrats win the Senate and Congress along with the Presidency, we probably won’t have Bill of Rights anymore. She is willing to do anything for power, regardless of anyone’s pesky constitutional rights.

Left of Sanders? You seriously believe that?

If anything Kamala Harris is a conservative.

Harris is the left-most senator.

Only if you don't count Hawaii or Alaska.

[Spendulus]

Harris is in no way moderate. By some metrics, she is to the left of Sanders who is widely seen in the Democratic Party as unelectable.

Some people are saying that she is one reason why we have the Bill of Rights, although if Democrats win the Senate and Congress along with the Presidency, we probably won’t have Bill of Rights anymore. She is willing to do anything for power, regardless of anyone’s pesky constitutional rights.

Left of Sanders? You seriously believe that?

If anything Kamala Harris is a conservative.

Harris is the left-most senator.

Only if you don't count Hawaii or Alaska.

The most far left senator is Kamala Harris.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate

I know the marching orders are to cast Harris as a moderate, though. How well do you think that bit of lying will work out? Might work. Just curious.

[dupeddonk]

Harris is in no way moderate. By some metrics, she is to the left of Sanders who is widely seen in the Democratic Party as unelectable.

Some people are saying that she is one reason why we have the Bill of Rights, although if Democrats win the Senate and Congress along with the Presidency, we probably won’t have Bill of Rights anymore. She is willing to do anything for power, regardless of anyone’s pesky constitutional rights.

Left of Sanders? You seriously believe that?

If anything Kamala Harris is a conservative.

Harris is the left-most senator.

Only if you don't count Hawaii or Alaska.

The most far left senator is Kamala Harris.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate

if you only want to consider a small aspect of reality, sure.

[Spendulus]

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The most far left senator is Kamala Harris.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate

if you only want to consider a small aspect of reality, sure.

Voting record sure would seem like a good way of measuring it, but I guess there are other ways.

[TwitchySeal]

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The most far left senator is Kamala Harris.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate

if you only want to consider a small aspect of reality, sure.

Voting record sure would seem like a good way of measuring it, but I guess there are other ways.

If you had to pick just one, then looking at bills sponsored makes a lot more sense than voting record but it wouldn't make sense to just ignore either one, or the campaign promises, speeches, interviews, background should all be considered when coming up with your own opinion of a member of congress' opinion.

[Spendulus]

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The most far left senator is Kamala Harris.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate

if you only want to consider a small aspect of reality, sure.

Voting record sure would seem like a good way of measuring it, but I guess there are other ways.

If you had to pick just one, then looking at bills sponsored makes a lot more sense than voting record but it wouldn't make sense to just ignore either one, or the campaign promises, speeches, interviews, background should all be considered when coming up with your own opinion of a member of congress' opinion.

I'm sure you can find some good things to say about the MOST FAR LEFT MEMBER OF THE SENATE.

[Mauser]

How is Bernie Sanders still first in this poll and Andrew Yang second? With his Chinese/Taiwanese background I didn't expect Yang to be so popular here.

The elections this year will definitely be very interesting. So far my money is on Democrats with this huge lead at the moment.

[TwitchySeal]

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The most far left senator is Kamala Harris.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate

if you only want to consider a small aspect of reality, sure.

Voting record sure would seem like a good way of measuring it, but I guess there are other ways.

If you had to pick just one, then looking at bills sponsored makes a lot more sense than voting record but it wouldn't make sense to just ignore either one, or the campaign promises, speeches, interviews, background should all be considered when coming up with your own opinion of a member of congress' opinion.

I'm sure you can find some good things to say about the MOST FAR LEFT MEMBER OF THE SENATE.

Nobody really thinks Kamala is the most 'FAR LEFT MEMBER OF THE SENATE'.  At least nobody that's informed.  They're just saying that bc she's VP pick.  Consensus would probably be Bernie then Warren as 'most to the left'.

Next shit post please.

[squatz1]

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The most far left senator is Kamala Harris.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate

if you only want to consider a small aspect of reality, sure.

Voting record sure would seem like a good way of measuring it, but I guess there are other ways.

If you had to pick just one, then looking at bills sponsored makes a lot more sense than voting record but it wouldn't make sense to just ignore either one, or the campaign promises, speeches, interviews, background should all be considered when coming up with your own opinion of a member of congress' opinion.

I'm sure you can find some good things to say about the MOST FAR LEFT MEMBER OF THE SENATE.

Nobody really thinks Kamala is the most 'FAR LEFT MEMBER OF THE SENATE'.  At least nobody that's informed.  They're just saying that bc she's VP pick.  Consensus would probably be Bernie then Warren as 'most to the left'.

Next shit post please.

Kamala is TOTALLY NOT the most far left member of the Senate. Like there is literally no shot of that. There are MANY cases of us ON HERE discussing the fact that Kamala is a law and order conservative. I've said it, Theymos have said it, Twitchy as well (I'm pretty sure)

Here is my thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5268512.0

But Kamala is a LAW AND ORDER conservative when it comes to her prosecutor past in California. People have, rightfully, joked that Biden (a white old man) picked Kamala (a black corrupt cop figure) Not sure why anyone would think that she is the most far left person in the Senate.

[suchmoon]

Not sure why anyone would think that she is the most far left person in the Senate.

It's basically Trump's campaign slogan now. So no thinking is required. Just repeat it until you believe it.

Also she was born in Kenya. Birth certificate is fake. Might be muslim.

[TwitchySeal]

Not sure why anyone would think that she is the most far left person in the Senate.

It's basically Trump's campaign slogan now. So no thinking is required. Just repeat it until you believe it.

Also she was born in Kenya. Birth certificate is fake. Might be muslim.

Don't forget race traitor, she slept her way to the top, dictator, authoritarian, and my favorite criticism from Trump - very rude and disrespectful to Biden during a debate!

[squatz1]

Not sure why anyone would think that she is the most far left person in the Senate.

It's basically Trump's campaign slogan now. So no thinking is required. Just repeat it until you believe it.

Also she was born in Kenya. Birth certificate is fake. Might be muslim.

LOL.

Pretty sure that's going to be what is run with though. It's pretty fair to call her a phony progressive because that is true -- and that is something that the Trump campaign did. But now they're noticing that ya know, they kinda need to call her a Commie to get the GOP out to vote. Works both ways though, and that is kinda used by both sides since like FOREVER.

Really stupid to do the whole birther thing again. I'd say that leaves a sour taste in more peoples mouths then it actually helps. But ya know, just me here. Maybe there is some strategist in the campaign that has decided that this whole thing makes sense. Totally above my paygrade and anyone else on here. Or maybe it's just some random thing that Trump decided while taking a shit.

Not sure why anyone would think that she is the most far left person in the Senate.

It's basically Trump's campaign slogan now. So no thinking is required. Just repeat it until you believe it.

Also she was born in Kenya. Birth certificate is fake. Might be muslim.

Don't forget race traitor, she slept her way to the top, dictator, authoritarian, and my favorite criticism from Trump - very rude and disrespectful to Biden during a debate!

Ah yes, those too.

[PrimeNumber7]

Kamala Harris is an authoritarian just like Trump. Threatening state violence (the police) for children not going to school.

Trump is pushing for children to get educated. Democrats are pushing for children to go without school, which will lead to higher death rates from children (stemming from things like suicide, and stress), less education for children, and higher unemployment for parents. This is a very strange stance for an 'authoritian' to take.

Universal healthcare is good both for the health of the people but also for the free market. Here's why. Our current system has fake inflated prices.

Universial healthcare is the opposite of the free market. You literally have no choice as to what level of care you receive, nor do any providers have any incentive to provide a comparatively high level of care. You don't hear about people going to Europe to receive treatment for a reason -- this is because socialist healthcare is inferriror to capalatist healthcare. Prices for healthcare are high in the US for two reasons: 1, nearly all of healthcare is paid for by a third party, so most consumers are not price sensitive when receiving care, and 2, foreign governments force healthcare providers, including international providers to sell their drugs, goods and services cheaply in their countries, and international healthcare companies need to make up for selling at the artificially depressed prices in those countries.

Yes, all the people in the country deserve healthcare, yes that includes illegal immigrants, criminals, everyone. The whole resource money argument is invented when it comes to that.

They can pay for it if they want it. Just like every other good or service available for purchase.

Open borders? Citation needed. Where and how is she for open borders. I seriously doubt that.

citation. Closing detention centers, and allowing all illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship is defacto open borders.

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And mark my words the coming climate disaster will kill and displace millions of people during our lifetimes. As long as you live another 30-50 years to really start experiencing it. During this decade we'll see another arctic ice all time low, every year it's more probable then the last, and eventually a blue ocean event. And the climate will start getting very different. More droughts, floods, hurricanes, fires, sea level rise, you name it. Some places will become unlivable. Some places will become impoverished.
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I'm going to assume that like most people who've fallen victim to the climate scare scam, you are ignorant of the fact that the arctic has been free of sea ice even in the holocene:

  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379110003185

Here is an article from 1989 talking about a warning from the UN about "entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels" if global warming is not solved by 2000. Is anyone able to remind me which nations have been wiped off the planet due to rising sea levels?

[TwitchySeal]

I'm going to assume that like most people who've fallen victim to the climate scare scam, you are ignorant of the fact that the arctic has been free of sea ice even in the holocene:

Ok I'll bite.  How did you figure out that there is no arctic sea ice despite all the satellite images, photographs, scientists, historical shipping records, first hand accounts, peer reviewed scientific studies about arctic sea.

If you're right, it wouldn't be as surprising to me as if the Earth were flat, but it would be pretty close.

Here is an article from 1989 talking about a warning from the UN about "entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels" if global warming is not solved by 2000. Is anyone able to remind me which nations have been wiped off the planet due to rising sea levels?

We're still decades away from island nations disappearing due to global warming.  I don't think anyone expected nations to be wiped out by 2020 and the article clearly didn't make that claim.

[Spendulus]

I'm going to assume that like most people who've fallen victim to the climate scare scam, you are ignorant of the fact that the arctic has been free of sea ice even in the holocene:

Ok I'll bite.  How did you figure out that there is no arctic sea ice despite all the satellite images, photographs, scientists, historical shipping records, first hand accounts, peer reviewed scientific studies about arctic sea.

If you're right, it wouldn't be as surprising to me as if the Earth were flat, but it would be pretty close.

Here is an article from 1989 talking about a warning from the UN about "entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels" if global warming is not solved by 2000. Is anyone able to remind me which nations have been wiped off the planet due to rising sea levels?

We're still decades away from island nations disappearing due to global warming.  I don't think anyone expected nations to be wiped out by 2020 and the article clearly didn't make that claim.

So sea level is rising about a foot every ten years, then?

Don't think so.

And by the way -

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jqs.2929

Does your paywall hack get through that paywall?

[TwitchySeal]

We're still decades away from island nations disappearing due to global warming.  I don't think anyone expected nations to be wiped out by 2020 and the article clearly didn't make that claim.

So sea level is rising about a foot every ten years, then?

Much less.  3.3mm per year (which converts to less than 1.5 inches per decade if the rate stayed constant)

great resource: https://sealevel.nasa.gov/

And by the way -

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jqs.2929

Does your paywall hack get through that paywall?

Just google the Title: https://debunkhouse.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/stein2017.pdf

[Spendulus]

We're still decades away from island nations disappearing due to global warming.  I don't think anyone expected nations to be wiped out by 2020 and the article clearly didn't make that claim.

So sea level is rising about a foot every ten years, then?

Much less.  3.3mm per year (which converts to less than 1.5 inches per decade if the rate stayed constant)
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So why not just say "thousands of years" instead of "decades"?

[PrimeNumber7]

We're still decades away from island nations disappearing due to global warming.  I don't think anyone expected nations to be wiped out by 2020 and the article clearly didn't make that claim.

So sea level is rising about a foot every ten years, then?

Much less.  3.3mm per year (which converts to less than 1.5 inches per decade if the rate stayed constant)
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So why not just say "thousands of years" instead of "decades"?

I thought I only had 10 years to move away from the coast? Obama even is trying to help people who need to leave the coast by buying a house on the water. This is why Michelle Obama is so oppressed, she is being forced to live in a multimillion dollar mansion on the water that will flood in a dozen years, while trying to satisfy her obligations under a Netflix deal estimated to be worth 9 figures, all for doing nothing other than divide the country apart over 8 years. 

[Spendulus]

We're still decades away from island nations disappearing due to global warming.  I don't think anyone expected nations to be wiped out by 2020 and the article clearly didn't make that claim.

So sea level is rising about a foot every ten years, then?

Much less.  3.3mm per year (which converts to less than 1.5 inches per decade if the rate stayed constant)
....

So why not just say "thousands of years" instead of "decades"?

I thought I only had 10 years to move away from the coast? Obama even is trying to help people who need to leave the coast by buying a house on the water. This is why Michelle Obama is so oppressed, she is being forced to live in a multimillion dollar mansion on the water that will flood in a dozen years, while trying to satisfy her obligations under a Netflix deal estimated to be worth 9 figures, all for doing nothing other than divide the country apart over 8 years.  

When used by a Democrat on the subject of sea level scares, "decades" changes the meaning of the plural form from the typical "2,3 or 4" to a multiplier of millions, if not thousands. This has the convenient side effect of causing anyone with half a brain to protest, and then the Democrat can scornfully call them a climate denier.

But this is scientifically inconsistent, because once we look at the broader timeframes of climate, global cooling is the big threat.