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April 13, 2019, 10:32:47 PM
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Please tell me is this a normal situation?
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April 13, 2019, 10:39:37 PM
Merited by Nestade (2), Buchi-88 (1), Lafu (1), bct_ail (1), 1miau (1)
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Qwk is a merit source, Lafu is very close to hitting legendary rank, probably he wants to help him to rank up.

Lafu is a trusted member of the community and he helps as he can the forum.

I see nothing wrong here, the "job" for merit source is to help members who deserve the new rank to rank up. (ideally with banking 0 merits at the end of the month as theymos said)

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April 13, 2019, 10:42:24 PM
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Don't look at the time, look at the posts.
My guess is they're worth it, but can't really check it on mobile.

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April 13, 2019, 10:58:04 PM
Last edit: April 13, 2019, 11:08:33 PM by 1miau
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Qwk is a merit source..
Coinlocket$ is right, if you look at the Merit distribution of qwk you'll be able to verify it. Or check the list here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4523027.0
If you are worried about the short time, that's because qwk is very busy outside of the forum right now and distributes most of his sMerit on 2 or 3 days every month when he checks good posts. After all your "proof" is very lazy, just posting their profile links here...  Roll Eyes

Here's another quote about qwk's sMerit distribution:

I tend to "speed-read" threads where I find some valuable postings and just drop some merit to anyone I deem "worthy".
E.g., see the thread 2018 wird das Jahr von ? ? ?
I happened to stumble over that thread a few days ago and noticed some (medium) quality content by quite a few users.
So I decided to just "let it rain" and poured out 16 individual merits to posters in said thread over the course of some 10 minutes (took me a while to speed-read all the 16 pages of the thread).

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April 13, 2019, 11:02:54 PM
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Lafu is very close to hitting legendary rank, probably he wants to help him to rank up.

If this is true, IMO there is no need to give merit to multiple posts of his just for the sale of giving a small number of merit for each post. qwk might as well review his post history and if he believes lafu is deserving to rank up, he should find one post and give it 50 (or however many) merit.

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April 13, 2019, 11:13:57 PM
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Lafu is very close to hitting legendary rank, probably he wants to help him to rank up.

If this is true, IMO there is no need to give merit to multiple posts of his just for the sale of giving a small number of merit for each post. qwk might as well review his post history and if he believes lafu is deserving to rank up, he should find one post and give it 50 (or however many) merit.
If you look a the sMerit qwk distributed today, that's not the case to give them out only for the sake of ranking up Lafu to Legendary. qwk is doing that quite often to have "sMerit days" when he's actively reviewing some German threads and awarding Merit to good posts.

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April 13, 2019, 11:29:51 PM
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Lafu is very close to hitting legendary rank

Sneaky bastard, somehow he evaded my query. Fixed.

Edit - to answer OP's question: yes.

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April 13, 2019, 11:51:26 PM
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Lafu is very close to hitting legendary rank

Sneaky bastard, somehow he evaded my query. Fixed.

Edit - to answer OP's question: yes.

And now he's Legendary, specially thanks to OP 😂



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April 14, 2019, 04:52:33 AM
Last edit: April 14, 2019, 05:59:39 AM by Lafu
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@OP

I never asked for get Merits !

I just try to help the Forum and new Users and other Users as well so far its possible for me !

If i get Merits for a post or an thread then sure its nice to see that because i know then the thread or the post has something good or helped somebody !

Sometimes you get Merits even you just give an ironic or funny Answer (Depends what you write and to who )

If i get or got no Merits for some threads or posts i dont care about and dosnt matter , i still continue try to help the Forum and Users !

As others already said too , qwk is an Merit source and its his one thing how he doing that as all other Merit sources have also there one way to doing that !

Sneaky bastard, somehow he evaded my query. Fixed.
Edit - to answer OP's question: yes.
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April 14, 2019, 10:56:31 AM
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Go Lafu! I don't think I've seen someone rank up from hero to Legendary (probably a few out there, but its rare!)

Great work, might have to check your posts to see what you're doing right Wink

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OP,
A little view of the delivery system (sMerit) and those who accept it, maybe the Forum members here often see this kind of thing, but not necessarily all that is seen is abnormal or wrong, what happens now I see Normal means, it can be said that the condition is not less or notmore. "in the middle".
Normal in artillery, shipping (sMerit) that is in accordance with the Forum rules that are appropriate, and while not deviating from forum rules.
In this case it also relates to the daily habits of the post that are considered reasonable by the sender (sM erit) certain.
this habit can be very "subjective," meaning that behavior becomes reasonable, valuation depends on how people view the post as appropriate
For me it is very difficult for this accusation to show abnormal behavior, if it is not accompanied by strong foundations, even unique behavior requires a lot of views and involves sensations and perceptions in shipping (sMerit)
Therefore, it is not that easy to define someone in giving (sMerit) or abnormal action.
Because everything in the forum lives with a system, has rules, and procedures, many people perceive a person's actions, that is a measure of the behavior of all members of the Forum, which is done naturally to someone without disrupting the system, forum rules willbut can be accepted by other members.

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April 14, 2019, 08:00:30 PM
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(ideally with banking 0 merits at the end of the month as theymos said)
Coinlocket$, what do you mean by this?

On OP, I see that there's nothing wrong here. Two of those members mentioned are reputable. And the merit sending is not on bulk and different people were merited by qwk and Lafu.

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April 14, 2019, 08:20:01 PM
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(ideally with banking 0 merits at the end of the month as theymos said)
Coinlocket$, what do you mean by this?

On OP, I see that there's nothing wrong here. Two of those members mentioned are reputable. And the merit sending is not on bulk and different people were merited by qwk and Lafu.

Theymos wrote somewhere he prefers to see a merit source using all his sMerit than see a merit source save (burn) An X amount of merit every month.

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April 14, 2019, 08:46:22 PM
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I responded from my mobile earlier, and had a look now. My German is rusty, but it looks like the posts are decent. That means a Merit source is doing his "job" reading through old threads on his Local board, and meriting many good posts.

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Thu Mar  7 19:59:10 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Nov 29 16:59:02 2018: 5 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for News, Partnerschaften und sonstige Entscheidungen der Kryptowelt
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Fri Feb 15 09:34:53 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Erstes richtiges BLUTBAD 2018 – Wo ist der Boden ?!
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Thu Feb 14 17:36:08 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:24:43 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:22:58 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:20:59 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:20:19 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:20:04 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
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Sat Feb  2 17:28:13 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: [ANN][CCO LIVE]PECULIUM - Erste Krypto-Spareinlagen Plattform basierend auf KI
Sat Feb  2 17:28:04 2019: 3 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Hot Coins
Sat Feb  2 17:27:46 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: [ANN][CCO LIVE]PECULIUM - Erste Krypto-Spareinlagen Plattform basierend auf KI
Sat Feb  2 17:27:38 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Hot Coins
Sat Feb  2 17:27:29 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: [ANN][CCO LIVE]PECULIUM - Erste Krypto-Spareinlagen Plattform basierend auf KI
Sat Feb  2 17:27:19 2019: 7 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???

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Merit received by Lafu (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until April 12, 2019 (source)

Thu Mar 28 20:17:13 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Die Default Trust wurde geändert !
Thu Mar 28 20:16:55 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Gesucht: neuer Moderator für das deutsche Forum
Thu Mar 28 20:16:39 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Meine Erfahrung mit Faucet-Seiten und Empfehlungen für Anfänger
Thu Mar 28 20:15:50 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners &amp; Help
Thu Mar 28 20:15:22 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: [CLUB] The SpamBuster! Over 7000+ accounts reviewed : [23.11]
Thu Mar 28 20:14:54 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Interessante Seiten für und im Forum
Thu Mar 28 20:13:42 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Ein weiterer Merit Tracker mit Grafischer darstellung !
Thu Mar 28 20:12:45 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Reporter Statistics
Thu Mar 28 20:11:48 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Übersetzungs-Spam gefunden? Hier könnt ihr ihn berichten
Thu Mar 28 20:11:34 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Report Status
Thu Mar 28 20:11:04 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Übersetzungs-Spam gefunden? Hier könnt ihr ihn berichten
Thu Mar 28 20:10:44 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Interessante Seiten für und im Forum
Thu Mar 28 20:10:25 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Übersetzungs-Spam gefunden? Hier könnt ihr ihn berichten
Thu Mar 28 20:09:49 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: [CLUB] The SpamBuster! Over 7000+ accounts reviewed : [23.11]
Thu Mar 28 20:09:07 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Mic´s Gewinnspiel - 8 Merits for Charity
Thu Mar 28 20:08:37 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: CPU Mining

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Merit received by bct_ail from January 24, 2018 until April 12, 2019 (source)

Fri Mar 29 18:12:14 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf
Fri Mar 29 16:32:16 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Hot Coins
Fri Mar 29 16:32:01 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: TenX | Erste Erfahrungen?
Fri Mar 29 16:31:48 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: "Mobile Wallets - Wallet-Apps" Empfehlungen?
Fri Mar 29 16:31:39 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Soll das Internet zensiert werden?
Fri Mar 29 16:31:21 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Übersetzungs-Spam gefunden? Hier könnt ihr ihn berichten
Fri Mar 29 16:31:09 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Krypto-Steuern in einfach | coin.ink
Fri Mar 29 16:30:58 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Überblick "Wallet Removal" Börsen
Fri Mar 29 16:30:45 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Überblick "Wallet Removal" Börsen
Fri Mar 29 16:30:40 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Überblick "Wallet Removal" Börsen
Fri Mar 29 16:30:12 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Zensur durch Captchas
Fri Mar 29 13:33:00 2019: 4 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Krypto-Steuern in einfach | coin.ink
Thu Mar 28 17:24:51 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Mar 28 15:23:46 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: [Neue Auswertungen] Wir deutschsprachigen und die Merits ...
Thu Mar 28 13:06:21 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf
Thu Mar 28 12:43:15 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf
Thu Mar 28 10:53:41 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Warum Anonymität bei Coins vielen so wichtig ist?
Thu Mar 28 10:53:17 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Wann beginnt der BULLENMARKT – Bullish für 2019 !?!
Thu Mar 28 10:52:53 2019: 3 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Cyberkiminalität steigt! Schütze deinen Windows Rechner
Thu Mar 28 10:52:35 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Cyberkiminalität steigt! Schütze deinen Windows Rechner
Thu Mar 28 10:52:07 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Kraken Now Open for Germany

Thu Feb 14 17:39:02 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:38:47 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:35:49 2019: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:35:04 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:34:27 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:33:04 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:32:56 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:27:48 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:27:26 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:26:46 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:23:18 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:22:43 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:21:44 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:19:24 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Thu Feb 14 17:19:10 2019: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ

Mon Sep 17 19:54:52 2018: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Mon Sep 17 19:52:10 2018: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Cyberkiminalität steigt! Schütze deinen Windows Rechner
Mon Sep 17 19:48:05 2018: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Mon Sep 17 19:40:38 2018: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf
Mon Sep 17 19:16:13 2018: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf
Mon Sep 17 19:02:00 2018: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Mon Sep 17 19:01:54 2018: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Mon Sep 17 19:01:48 2018: 1 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ
Mon Sep 17 18:41:30 2018: 2 from qwk (Trust list) (history) for Re: Bitcoin &amp; die Steuer - FAQ

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April 14, 2019, 10:55:36 PM
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(ideally with banking 0 merits at the end of the month as theymos said)
Coinlocket$, what do you mean by this?

On OP, I see that there's nothing wrong here. Two of those members mentioned are reputable. And the merit sending is not on bulk and different people were merited by qwk and Lafu.
You can find the original quote of theymos here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050263.0

If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.
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Lafu is very close to hitting legendary rank, probably he wants to help him to rank up.
If this is true, IMO there is no need to give merit to multiple posts of his just for the sale of giving a small number of merit for each post. qwk might as well review his post history and if he believes lafu is deserving to rank up, he should find one post and give it 50 (or however many) merit.
It is true that I looked a little closer at Lafu's posts because I saw him hitting the Legendary mark, and decided to be a little more generous with merit towards him.
I would not, on the other hand, award anyone with a single "Airdrop" of 50 merit in one go, for a simple reason: if I happened to stumble upon other posts from this person that I deemed worthy of merit, I might "over-reward" that user, which is something I definitely want to avoid.

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April 15, 2019, 09:22:47 AM
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I would not, on the other hand, award anyone with a single "Airdrop" of 50 merit in one go, for a simple reason: if I happened to stumble upon other posts from this person that I deemed worthy of merit, I might "over-reward" that user, which is something I definitely want to avoid.
Based on my review of theymos' comments on the matter, this is actually the preferred behavior, even if you assume the person deserves a lesser amount of merit.

If the person has shown they are deserving to rank up, theymos has explicitly said to give the maximum amount of merit to allow them to rank up.

If you award too much merit, then there will be no real damage

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April 15, 2019, 09:36:53 AM
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If you award too much merit, then there will be no real damage
But I'll run out of sMerit, the horror!

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April 15, 2019, 09:58:44 AM
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qwk & Lafu are respected, experienced members of the community. Absolutely no chance either of them are implicated in Merit abuse. If you’re looking to make a name for yourself OP then picking on OG’s is not the way to do it.

Nothing to see here, move along.




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April 15, 2019, 12:28:27 PM
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Based on my review of theymos' comments on the matter, this is actually the preferred behavior, even if you assume the person deserves a lesser amount of merit.

Based on my review of your review you're full of shit as usual. Sending 5 merits each to 10 posts is better for the forum than 50 merits in one piece. The primary purpose of the merit system is to award good posts. Stop fucking around with it and harassing merit sources.

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