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May 29, 2024, 09:52:24 PM
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Although you are right, we have to remember that the formula is the same in trading and investing. That is, invest and trade with the amount of money you can afford to lose. Only when you are able to lose the amount of money will your energy and inclination towards investment work, but you will not be emotional. Many times it is seen that people are afraid of investing, but instead of being afraid of investing, they participate in the investment with the money that they can afford to lose.
What you really mean is that both investing and trading involve risk. Those who are going to invest or trade should invest with risk because sometimes you can make money from investment and other time you can lose your money from investment. So invest as much as you can afford to lose.
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For example, if you can afford to invest $10, you can invest from here if you are not emotional about losing it. Never invest by force but invest as much money as you can afford to throw away, you may make a lot of profit at one time and may also lose.  You should invest only the amount of money that you can afford from your point of view consistently, or else you will force yourself to never invest. However, if you are investing for long term then it must be sustained and once you can get huge profit from it then hold it.
To be successful in investing you must first control your emotions. As per your example, let's say you bought a coin worth ten dollars, a few days or a week after the purchase you saw the price of that token or coin dropped, then you sold your coin on impulse even though you thought that the price of this coin might go up. If not, then none of your investmentNo value left.So you should plan your investment in such a way that even if you suffer temporary losses, you will be able to hold it patiently for a long time.


Yes it's good that one should plan before investing against temporary loss because the market is not a stable one, but one thing any investor must note is buying the real coin  not all coin in the market is worth investing and holding or exercise patient when it's dropping that is why it most advisable here to only invest on BTC even if one seek to diversify it should be a coin that is having some marketing stability , because many coin is pump in day in day out and virtually all is no where to be found in the market investing on such and holding with hope of future rise can course you serious pain that can't be cure the best is to take the little this left when the market is falling most if the investment is coin that can't withstand the market force after being pump. But if the investment is on BTC one don't need to border as long you can hold for long term and keep accumulating with the strategy mostly the DCA you will still recover the drop in the market.


When talking about coin you should be specific about the coin you are talking about because there are several coin in the Market so you won't mislead other newbies or new investors to go and invest into shitcoins or aitcoins because of not been specific. And besides as a new investors it is not advisable to diversify your Bitcoin investment journey without accumulating much Bitcoin, with your DCA strategy you can accumulate much Bitcoin on a regular interval either weekly or monthly as long as you have set aside your emergency reserve and float fund, then after much you can choose to diversify into what that will still generate more income for you so you can be able to hodl your Bitcoin investment for a longer period of time.

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When talking about coin you should be specific about the coin you are talking about because there are several coin in the Market so you won't mislead other newbies or new investors to go and invest into shitcoins or aitcoins because of not been specific. And besides as a new investors it is not advisable to diversify your Bitcoin investment journey without accumulating much Bitcoin, with your DCA strategy you can accumulate much Bitcoin on a regular interval either weekly or monthly as long as you have set aside your emergency reserve and float fund, then after much you can choose to diversify into what that will still generate more income for you so you can be able to hodl your Bitcoin investment for a longer period of time.

What then could be said to be the right amount of bitcoin to accumulate till it gets to where you can be satisfied with it been much enough? I think in terms of knowing when to diversify into other investments the duration of years a bitcoin investor planned on accumulating using DCA strategy is what is important to knowing when you can them decide to diversify into other areas of investment. Without a prior set duration mapped out for oneself the investor may have not time bond target with his investment which could make him miss opportunities even in a right time to take profit.
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May 29, 2024, 10:56:31 PM
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Investing a decent amount is also another way to say invest with an amount you can afford to lose. Even if one is responsible or irresponsible, he/she should know that it's very important to invest with an amount that they can always afford to risk. Everyone has an amount that they can afford to lose, but most people don't know.
I don't know if I'm getting you right but why do i feel that  your perception on Bitcoin investment is for trading because when you advised him to use the only money he can afford to lose, perhaps indirectly you are saying that there is a higher chance for him to lose his money Bitcoin or in other words referring to gambling investment, however in as much as nothing is guaranteed when it comes to investment but with Bitcoin success is certain if you are ready to hold, so actually the risk you are talking about should be actually dependent on the kind of investment you are talking about because if your pattern is for a long term holding I wouldn't use the word risk because it seems that you don't really understand or know the potential of Bitcoin you are investing on.

Any money you invest into bitcoin should come from disposable income.. so by definition it is extra money and/or money that you can afford to lose.

Your bitcoin investment could go to zero, so any money you invest could be lost 100%, and you should be prepared for that possibility with any money you invest into bitcoin.

That is not about gambling or trading.. and including if you are investing into bitcoin 4-10 years or longer, you also would not be expecting to need any of your money that you invest into bitcoin in the short term, and you are also not guaranteed to get your money back in the long term either, but surely if you are invested into bitcoin 4-10 years or longer, you will likely see the extent to which the value of your investment into bitcoin ends up going up, down or sideways, and you would be able to make further plans based on how your bitcoin value is performing as you might continue to invest into it or maybe you go into some other status, such as merely maintaining it or liquidating it... but those would be down the road considerations, a tend the value is not guaranteed to be positive or beyond zero, but surely we already likely realize that there are various scenarios that are also possible that bitcoin prices (value) could be multiples and/or magnitudes higher than it is now, even 1,000s of times, but none of that is guaranteed, but instead there are various possible scenarios that are still to be seen in terms of how they might end up playing out in the actual future versus our speculation about how the future might end up being.

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See this matter of investing in bitcoin is also something we should take seriously as much as we need to plan for our daily needs, we also have to understand that needs don't finish and they keeps coming up on daily basis, but as much as we have to take care of other things we have to understand that we have to take our investment in bitcoin very serious too. If someone is making a monthly income of $200 and he is investing only $10 I think it's very poor. If you are making monthly income of $200 you should at least invest 10% of the money which is $20 and I don't think it's too much. If $190 can carry you for a month, I think $180 will equally be enough to carry you for the moment. In as much as we are investing, we should also target to have a reasonable amount of fraction of bitcoin and to accumulate it, we have to make some certain level of sacrifice.
We need to realize that we don't need to be aggressive from the beginning if we can't bear it until the end because after all, with the current economic conditions that are increasingly difficult for the majority of us whose economic strata are below average, it will indeed be very difficult if we are too forceful.
You have an income of $200 for a month and spend at least $10 meaning in this case 5% if you can afford it like that why not because if you force it to 10% by putting in $20 during but we actually have to mess around with daily needs that we cannot bear it is a careless step in the end.

So in this case it is better for you to invest with all forms of your readiness and if indeed we can afford $10 but for the long term then why not because it is much better than nothing and of course this is much better than we force $20 but the investment we make does not last long because you cannot afford to spend the 10 percent to invest in the time period you have determined.

Very true. When we can easily identify our strength and weakness before even starting any investment at all, there should be a strong tendency of a long and successful investment. $10 looks fine since we know that we are only focused on a single investment plan, and not focused on any form of diversification. To me, Investment shouldn't be a forceful act, but rather something that comes from my own will. When I agree to make a $10 investment for long term, it should be willingly and not forcefully. But from every general perspective, I think it will be ideal to start with  what your strength can carry and ensure you maintain a consistent level.

Although you are right, we have to remember that the formula is the same in trading and investing. That is, invest and trade with the amount of money you can afford to lose. Only when you are able to lose the amount of money will your energy and inclination towards investment work, but you will not be emotional. Many times it is seen that people are afraid of investing, but instead of being afraid of investing, they participate in the investment with the money that they can afford to lose. For example, if you can afford to invest $10, you can invest from here if you are not emotional about losing it. Never invest by force but invest as much money as you can afford to throw away, you may make a lot of profit at one time and may also lose.  You should invest only the amount of money that you can afford from your point of view consistently, or else you will force yourself to never invest. However, if you are investing for long term then it must be sustained and once you can get huge profit from it then hold it.


Sorry I don't believe that investing and trading has same formula reason because the two have different meaning and are somehow not related.  Investing has to do with putting what you have that is worth it and then allowing it for some time or maybe years in order for what you put to improve or grow beyond it's initial value while trading is buying something when it is cheap with the hope that within a short interval of time the price will increase and then you sell it off which is very risky cause your analysis concerning that particular trade my be wrong thereby making you to lose money and this is a different case with investment, the fact that both aim is to make profit that doesn't mean they have same formula.

Although you are right, we have to remember that the formula is the same in trading and investing. That is, invest and trade with the amount of money you can afford to lose. Only when you are able to lose the amount of money will your energy and inclination towards investment work, but you will not be emotional. Many times it is seen that people are afraid of investing, but instead of being afraid of investing, they participate in the investment with the money that they can afford to lose.
What you really mean is that both investing and trading involve risk. Those who are going to invest or trade should invest with risk because sometimes you can make money from investment and other time you can lose your money from investment. So invest as much as you can afford to lose.
Firstly investing and trading are two different things meanwhile if comparing the risk involved I will consider trading as a risky move but, this topic is not about trade and if anyone should trade they should be knowledgeable first but still doesn’t give full assurance. Investing is more safe because an investor will hold for long term with what’s available, this statement is kinda complicated “ invest as much as you can afford to lose”, bitcoin investment is not like gambling when people are given such advice to gamble with what they can afford to lose. The lose you mentioned simply means some day everyone might just not see any profit as anything attach with lose makes no progress. Bitcoin investment has no lose except the investor doesn’t want to hold for long that’s when we can say an investor is taking a risky move but, if we’re holding for long term we should expect profit in return. All what an investor needs is just the right strategy that suits their investment and a long term plan.
In this comment you did mention 3 different things, which are TRADING, INVESTING and GAMBLING, but I rest assured that if one knows the difference between these 3 things, the person will be able to know the one that's risky and the ones that's not.

However, investing and trading are 2 different things and one should know that investing is more mature than that of trading, but what makes it a little bit similar is that you risk money on them. One of these 3 is considered for less risk.

And applying emotions on things like trading or gambling is not good because your emotions will make you lose and there's no doubt that you will lose more money once you are chasing losses. But on investments, even when you are losing, you don't have to panic because as time goes on you will recover your losses (but that's when you are using a good strategy like DCA). If one is using emotions to invest, his investment won't end well, because at every loss, he/she won't be happy. Before I forget, we must learn to invest with the amount we can afford to lose in others to avoid including emotions in our investments.


If it happens that bitcoin crashes  which I know is impossible, due to some unknown circumstances or in future a better channel of wealth was introduced that made people start abandoning bitcoin for the new technology, you will not lose all your life savings. I think those are the two reasons which I know why that word invest with the amount that you can afford to lose is used. There is an extend that you will invest those little amount of money after 4-10 years you will be surprised at the amount it has piled up to.
Well, there's no doubt that it's impossible for Bitcoin to be replaced.

Investing a decent amount is also another way to say invest with an amount you can afford to lose. Even if one is responsible or irresponsible, he/she should know that it's very important to invest with an amount that they can always afford to risk. Everyone has an amount that they can afford to lose, but most people don't know.

To me investing in decent amount simply means investing with good amount of money cause the word decent is more like good or moderate if you check well. The reason why most people shut down their investment is because of mismanagement of funds and mindset of making huge profit without considering what is at stake. If someone knows how to manage funds I don't think investment would be a problem cause whenever you have money, like say $2k you already know how you are going to share it so that you won't get stranded to extent of going to touch your investment. Everybody wants a good profit but that doesn't mean one should take reckless risk, to an extent
I believe theree are some risk that is not worth to be taking but most people don't know.
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May 30, 2024, 03:19:02 AM
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Back to the basic concept, we come here not to lose, lose funds, the cause is from ourselves because we want to double the investment quickly and hope that in 2 or three days the investment value we trade can produce and increase from the initial capital. The reality is that most of them are big zeros, especially if market conditions are uncertain and their movements change. I guess buy and hold it for a long period of time, That's probably the real thing whether to use DCA or want it all at once.
The basic concept will go according to plan and must use a long-term strategy by implementing the DCA technique. It is very difficult to expect that within 2 or 3 days the investment value will start to increase in value because the movement is still unstable or for other reasons due to increasingly uncertain market sentiment. Bitcoin, whose direction of movement is very difficult to predict, requires investors to be more patient in highly speculative Bitcoin investments. Using the DCA strategy can enable you to collect Bitcoin consistently and accumulate assets depending on the amount of money you are ready to invest. Buying at a low price and selling at a high price is one of the concepts and goals in investment. You can buy and hold it for the long term to get the profit you expected when you started investing.


 
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May 30, 2024, 04:17:06 AM
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Back to the basic concept, we come here not to lose, lose funds, the cause is from ourselves because we want to double the investment quickly and hope that in 2 or three days the investment value we trade can produce and increase from the initial capital. The reality is that most of them are big zeros, especially if market conditions are uncertain and their movements change. I guess buy and hold it for a long period of time, That's probably the real thing whether to use DCA or want it all at once.
The basic concept will go according to plan and must use a long-term strategy by implementing the DCA technique. It is very difficult to expect that within 2 or 3 days the investment value will start to increase in value because the movement is still unstable or for other reasons due to increasingly uncertain market sentiment. Bitcoin, whose direction of movement is very difficult to predict, requires investors to be more patient in highly speculative Bitcoin investments. Using the DCA strategy can enable you to collect Bitcoin consistently and accumulate assets depending on the amount of money you are ready to invest. Buying at a low price and selling at a high price is one of the concepts and goals in investment. You can buy and hold it for the long term to get the profit you expected when you started investing.



Bitcoin long investment doesn't requires buying at low price in order to sell at high price, one can buy even at the peak price so far the intention is to buy and hold for longer period of time, prioritizing buying at low price to sell at high price can be more of trading strategy but when it comes to Bitcoin long term investment one can buy at anytime the money is readily available for investment irrespective of the price point , what is most important is achieving a good size of Bitcoin up to a reasonable amount which will put you in good profits.

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May 30, 2024, 04:20:48 AM
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Although you are right, we have to remember that the formula is the same in trading and investing. That is, invest and trade with the amount of money you can afford to lose. Only when you are able to lose the amount of money will your energy and inclination towards investment work, but you will not be emotional. Many times it is seen that people are afraid of investing, but instead of being afraid of investing, they participate in the investment with the money that they can afford to lose.
What you really mean is that both investing and trading involve risk. Those who are going to invest or trade should invest with risk because sometimes you can make money from investment and other time you can lose your money from investment. So invest as much as you can afford to lose.
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For example, if you can afford to invest $10, you can invest from here if you are not emotional about losing it. Never invest by force but invest as much money as you can afford to throw away, you may make a lot of profit at one time and may also lose.  You should invest only the amount of money that you can afford from your point of view consistently, or else you will force yourself to never invest. However, if you are investing for long term then it must be sustained and once you can get huge profit from it then hold it.
To be successful in investing you must first control your emotions. As per your example, let's say you bought a coin worth ten dollars, a few days or a week after the purchase you saw the price of that token or coin dropped, then you sold your coin on impulse even though you thought that the price of this coin might go up. If not, then none of your investmentNo value left.So you should plan your investment in such a way that even if you suffer temporary losses, you will be able to hold it patiently for a long time.


Yes it's good that one should plan before investing against temporary loss because the market is not a stable one, but one thing any investor must note is buying the real coin  not all coin in the market is worth investing and holding or exercise patient when it's dropping that is why it most advisable here to only invest on BTC even if one seek to diversify it should be a coin that is having some marketing stability , because many coin is pump in day in day out and virtually all is no where to be found in the market investing on such and holding with hope of future rise can course you serious pain that can't be cure the best is to take the little this left when the market is falling most if the investment is coin that can't withstand the market force after being pump. But if the investment is on BTC one don't need to border as long you can hold for long term and keep accumulating with the strategy mostly the DCA you will still recover the drop in the market.
This thread is primarily for buying the dip and Hodl. Bitcoin is a real asset and also in the asset class, so if you say one should invest in the real coin, I will say you are sounding like one who is advising people to invest in altcoins. Why do you want to put your money where you know it is not worth investing in? As a newbie, it isn't good for you to diversify your investment; you should concentrate on accumulating your bitcoin so that you have enough quantity of bitcoin without getting distracted. The only time you should diversify your investment is when you have accumulated the quantity of bitcoin you want to accumulate. If you are diversifying your investment, it shouldn't be on any other coin but on a physical business, such as real estate or selling commodities, so that it will help you to hold your bitcoin for the long term.
Shitcoins are indeed a complete bad news for any investor, and the problem with lots of people who claim to be investors is that, they believe feeling their bags with variety of shitcoins would give them more advantage for more profitability, which is quite a flawed mentality.

I've been in the crypto space for quite some time now and I've come to realize that getting involved with shitcoins would only mean one thing, and that's gambling with your money, and we all know what the outcome of gambling usually is.
You'll end up losing your money and that's it, I know a lot of people would say they've made cool profits via shitcoins trading but even if this is so, what exactly do they usually use the money for? They'll simply buy more shitcoins and that's how they'll lose it all.

Diversifying one's investments is indeed an amazing strategy but just as you've rightly stated, filling one's bag with shitcoins isn't the best way to diversify, whoever tells you it is, is simply lying to you or is naive.
There are real life assets that also have long-term potentials just like bitcoin and you can consider those other options to diversify. Gold is an amazing option, it's been in the market, even long before bitcoin came into existence, and you can also consider it for its long-term potentials too just like bitcoin.
In China today, Silver is also a hot cake and quite a viable option for investment diversification.

There are so many of them to be considered.

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Investing a decent amount is also another way to say invest with an amount you can afford to lose. Even if one is responsible or irresponsible, he/she should know that it's very important to invest with an amount that they can always afford to risk. Everyone has an amount that they can afford to lose, but most people don't know.

I don't know if I'm getting you right but why do i feel that  your perception on Bitcoin investment is for trading because when you advised him to use the only money he can afford to lose, perhaps indirectly you are saying that there is a higher chance for him to lose his money Bitcoin or in other words referring to gambling investment, however in as much as nothing is guaranteed when it comes to investment but with Bitcoin success is certain if you are ready to hold, so actually the risk you are talking about should be actually dependent on the kind of investment you are talking about because if your pattern is for a long term holding I wouldn't use the word risk because it seems that you don't really understand or know the potential of Bitcoin you are investing on.
What he said about investing the money you can afford to lose is not about trading or gambling with your bitcoin investment, but a step that must be taken to help us have a good bitcoin investment that we will not sell in the short term. This is the problem so many investors are having with bitcoin investments that makes them sell their bitcoin investments so early to survive. When it comes to bitcoin investment, we should not invest our whole money in it, so that we will not even think about selling it one day to survive. We should invest the money we can afford to lose or we can do without for a long term so that we will not find it hard to solve our problems.

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May 30, 2024, 05:52:24 AM
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Investing a decent amount is also another way to say invest with an amount you can afford to lose. Even if one is responsible or irresponsible, he/she should know that it's very important to invest with an amount that they can always afford to risk. Everyone has an amount that they can afford to lose, but most people don't know.
I don't know if I'm getting you right but why do i feel that  your perception on Bitcoin investment is for trading because when you advised him to use the only money he can afford to lose, perhaps indirectly you are saying that there is a higher chance for him to lose his money Bitcoin or in other words referring to gambling investment, however in as much as nothing is guaranteed when it comes to investment but with Bitcoin success is certain if you are ready to hold, so actually the risk you are talking about should be actually dependent on the kind of investment you are talking about because if your pattern is for a long term holding I wouldn't use the word risk because it seems that you don't really understand or know the potential of Bitcoin you are investing on.

Any money you invest into bitcoin should come from disposable income.. so by definition it is extra money and/or money that you can afford to lose.

Your bitcoin investment could go to zero, so any money you invest could be lost 100%, and you should be prepared for that possibility with any money you invest into bitcoin.

Of course, every investor should make a decision to invest in Bitcoin based on holistic considerations. Overall consideration here is the possibility of high profit or investment loss. Consideration of disposable income as capital and the expectation of potential profit associated with it certainly helps to consolidate the consistency of each buying. Future determination of hard-earned income and the decision to hoard Bitcoin is definitely going to be positive as the system has often cheated one following the historical footsteps of the local currency investment journey.
An investment decision with potential returns like Bitcoin and its past price history is certainly a beacon of hope for small investors like us. Although you always say it can be high and it can also go to zero. Your whereabouts must be reasonable because none of us are sure where its value will go. But I think behind the negative attitude we must keep the positive influence which can encourage us to accumulate more Bitcoins. Long-term trends in holding and holding during bullish and overbought each dips.

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May 30, 2024, 08:14:51 AM
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Investing a decent amount is also another way to say invest with an amount you can afford to lose. Even if one is responsible or irresponsible, he/she should know that it's very important to invest with an amount that they can always afford to risk. Everyone has an amount that they can afford to lose, but most people don't know.

I don't know if I'm getting you right but why do i feel that  your perception on Bitcoin investment is for trading because when you advised him to use the only money he can afford to lose, perhaps indirectly you are saying that there is a higher chance for him to lose his money Bitcoin or in other words referring to gambling investment, however in as much as nothing is guaranteed when it comes to investment but with Bitcoin success is certain if you are ready to hold, so actually the risk you are talking about should be actually dependent on the kind of investment you are talking about because if your pattern is for a long term holding I wouldn't use the word risk because it seems that you don't really understand or know the potential of Bitcoin you are investing on.
What he said about investing the money you can afford to lose is not about trading or gambling with your bitcoin investment, but a step that must be taken to help us have a good bitcoin investment that we will not sell in the short term. This is the problem so many investors are having with bitcoin investments that makes them sell their bitcoin investments so early to survive. When it comes to bitcoin investment, we should not invest our whole money in it, so that we will not even think about selling it one day to survive. We should invest the money we can afford to lose or we can do without for a long term so that we will not find it hard to solve our problems.

Regards to the issue of investing what one can afford to loose which connote money one will not border much to withdraw or sell off has been a bedrock if discussion since the forum is created I believe people who still get confused with statement like this need more to read in most pin post.
To invest on Bitcoin what you can afford to loose is very important this don't signify is gambling but money that will not border you to sell after being invested this don't happen to investor by mistake but by proper planning  BTC investment need a good plan and many of the plan has been discussed virtually on daily basis here which includes emergency fund or reserve fund having other sources of income and engaging on stable income source.

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May 30, 2024, 08:36:59 AM
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Maybe they are skeptical on using that because they don't have enough knowledge and experience for dealing this strategy. But if they could try to experience maybe at least years or more of doing those methods presented maybe they could figure out that there's something good happening on their investment. Although there would be challenges will came but if their belief and understandings on the situation is strong then provably that their would be no skepticism attitude will occur to them. Strategies are presented for those people to use it and it will maybe give them a good result if they keep learning on it and joining on various discussions which can help them a lot for information gathering.

We see those wealthy guys succeed its because  they are capable to do the risk and have good understandings towards each situation happened on their investment. They also have good risk management that's why we always feel amazing for seeing them earning good result on investments they made.

Everyone is entitled for what pattern or strategy they use but what's important is we are following certain good tracks and good advices from knowledgeable people and we should not show any interest for those people sharing misleading information which possibly can dismantle our investment plan towards strengthen up our accumulation plans for future.
Yes, an investor is being sceptical when there is no enough knowledge on what to do and how to do it while considering the risk management factors. If we are to look at the most simple investment, Bitcoin is actually among the most easiest one can deal on, would be a matter of getting the required knowledge on the strategies to be implemented and seconded by discipline during the accumulating process. An investor should be open to get/learn different information but doesn't mean to practicalize it into our investment untill that information is confirmed valid enough.

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May 30, 2024, 12:10:14 PM
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Investing a decent amount is also another way to say invest with an amount you can afford to lose. Even if one is responsible or irresponsible, he/she should know that it's very important to invest with an amount that they can always afford to risk. Everyone has an amount that they can afford to lose, but most people don't know.

I don't know if I'm getting you right but why do i feel that  your perception on Bitcoin investment is for trading because when you advised him to use the only money he can afford to lose, perhaps indirectly you are saying that there is a higher chance for him to lose his money Bitcoin or in other words referring to gambling investment, however in as much as nothing is guaranteed when it comes to investment but with Bitcoin success is certain if you are ready to hold, so actually the risk you are talking about should be actually dependent on the kind of investment you are talking about because if your pattern is for a long term holding I wouldn't use the word risk because it seems that you don't really understand or know the potential of Bitcoin you are investing on.
What he said about investing the money you can afford to lose is not about trading or gambling with your bitcoin investment, but a step that must be taken to help us have a good bitcoin investment that we will not sell in the short term. This is the problem so many investors are having with bitcoin investments that makes them sell their bitcoin investments so early to survive. When it comes to bitcoin investment, we should not invest our whole money in it, so that we will not even think about selling it one day to survive. We should invest the money we can afford to lose or we can do without for a long term so that we will not find it hard to solve our problems.

Regards to the issue of investing what one can afford to loose which connote money one will not border much to withdraw or sell off has been a bedrock if discussion since the forum is created I believe people who still get confused with statement like this need more to read in most pin post.
To invest on Bitcoin what you can afford to loose is very important this don't signify is gambling but money that will not border you to sell after being invested this don't happen to investor by mistake but by proper planning  BTC investment need a good plan and many of the plan has been discussed virtually on daily basis here which includes emergency fund or reserve fund having other sources of income and engaging on stable income source.
When you always stick to the golden rule about investing only what you can afford to lose even if it's little as long as you decide to invest in it for the long term, you will eventually become successful and also while you are holding some bitcoins, you need to make sure that you have all the knowledge how to prevent yourselves from getting hack of getting victims to those exchanges that are suddenly close. Having enough patience and knowing where to go to catch positivity when the crypto market is not looking well is also an important aspect of this journey because people are panicking when they see all-red in the crypto market while others are just chilling because they know exactly when it would gonna happen.

So when someone makes an investment, is advised to use funds that they do not need for other purposes and also if they fail in the investment they make then this will not cause them to experience financial difficulties as a result of the investment they make and hinder their investment in the long term. this is very important because they have to be patient in order to get a profit from what they invest.

To be patient in investing, we must first understand the investment well and it is absolutely impossible for someone to persist in investing without properly understanding the investment they are making, that is what is experienced by those who panic when they see the price. Bitcoin is decreasing because they don't understand how it works. Bitcoin is good and for some people who understand it well, there are also those who take advantage of this opportunity to be able to collect more than usual so they can profit from the investments they make.
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When talking about coin you should be specific about the coin you are talking about because there are several coin in the Market so you won't mislead other newbies or new investors to go and invest into shitcoins or aitcoins because of not been specific. And besides as a new investors it is not advisable to diversify your Bitcoin investment journey without accumulating much Bitcoin, with your DCA strategy you can accumulate much Bitcoin on a regular interval either weekly or monthly as long as you have set aside your emergency reserve and float fund, then after much you can choose to diversify into what that will still generate more income for you so you can be able to hodl your Bitcoin investment for a longer period of time.

What then could be said to be the right amount of bitcoin to accumulate till it gets to where you can be satisfied with it been much enough? I think in terms of knowing when to diversify into other investments the duration of years a bitcoin investor planned on accumulating using DCA strategy is what is important to knowing when you can them decide to diversify into other areas of investment. Without a prior set duration mapped out for oneself the investor may have not time bond target with his investment which could make him miss opportunities even in a right time to take profit.
There is no specific amount of bitcoin to accumulate when you are investing your money in bitcoin; you can accumulate bitcoin based on your greed level. Some people might be satisfied if they accumulate 1 bitcoin, some will be okay with 10 bitcoins, and so on. The time for you to diversify your investment should be when you have accumulated the quantity of bitcoin you want to accumulate. Don't diversify to any other coin since you have accumulated the quantity of bitcoin you want. You can diversify into physical businesses such as real estate or selling commodities, which will help you generate more money, and you will not be in a hurry to sell your bitcoin to get a better life. You can depend on your business to cover your living expenses until your bitcoin investment gets to the year you want to sell it.

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Back to the basic concept, we come here not to lose, lose funds, the cause is from ourselves because we want to double the investment quickly and hope that in 2 or three days the investment value we trade can produce and increase from the initial capital. The reality is that most of them are big zeros, especially if market conditions are uncertain and their movements change. I guess buy and hold it for a long period of time, That's probably the real thing whether to use DCA or want it all at once.
The basic concept will go according to plan and must use a long-term strategy by implementing the DCA technique. It is very difficult to expect that within 2 or 3 days the investment value will start to increase in value because the movement is still unstable or for other reasons due to increasingly uncertain market sentiment. Bitcoin, whose direction of movement is very difficult to predict, requires investors to be more patient in highly speculative Bitcoin investments. Using the DCA strategy can enable you to collect Bitcoin consistently and accumulate assets depending on the amount of money you are ready to invest. Buying at a low price and selling at a high price is one of the concepts and goals in investment. You can buy and hold it for the long term to get the profit you expected when you started investing.



Bitcoin long investment doesn't requires buying at low price in order to sell at high price, one can buy even at the peak price so far the intention is to buy and hold for longer period of time, prioritizing buying at low price to sell at high price can be more of trading strategy but when it comes to Bitcoin long term investment one can buy at anytime the money is readily available for investment irrespective of the price point , what is most important is achieving a good size of Bitcoin up to a reasonable amount which will put you in good profits.
If you are long term investor , you can always buy bitcoin without waiting for it to dip more especially if you are using DCA method to accumulate bitcoin ,your target should be to get a reasonable amount of it in your portfolio. But it is wrong to  think that all investment in bitcoin  is because the investor want to make good profit at the end .people can invest in bitcoin in a way to retain value. Just imagine you have $3000 at your disposal and you want to retain this money for a longer time. You can invest it  in am asset that won't lose value. So it is wrong to think that all investment is aim at making good profit

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When talking about coin you should be specific about the coin you are talking about because there are several coin in the Market so you won't mislead other newbies or new investors to go and invest into shitcoins or aitcoins because of not been specific. And besides as a new investors it is not advisable to diversify your Bitcoin investment journey without accumulating much Bitcoin, with your DCA strategy you can accumulate much Bitcoin on a regular interval either weekly or monthly as long as you have set aside your emergency reserve and float fund, then after much you can choose to diversify into what that will still generate more income for you so you can be able to hodl your Bitcoin investment for a longer period of time.

What then could be said to be the right amount of bitcoin to accumulate till it gets to where you can be satisfied with it been much enough? I think in terms of knowing when to diversify into other investments the duration of years a bitcoin investor planned on accumulating using DCA strategy is what is important to knowing when you can them decide to diversify into other areas of investment. Without a prior set duration mapped out for oneself the investor may have not time bond target with his investment which could make him miss opportunities even in a right time to take profit.
There is no specific amount of bitcoin to accumulate when you are investing your money in bitcoin; you can accumulate bitcoin based on your greed level. Some people might be satisfied if they accumulate 1 bitcoin, some will be okay with 10 bitcoins, and so on. The time for you to diversify your investment should be when you have accumulated the quantity of bitcoin you want to accumulate. Don't diversify to any other coin since you have accumulated the quantity of bitcoin you want. You can diversify into physical businesses such as real estate or selling commodities, which will help you generate more money, and you will not be in a hurry to sell your bitcoin to get a better life. You can depend on your business to cover your living expenses until your bitcoin investment gets to the year you want to sell it.
@Mayor of ogba, we are both heading in similar way. Am just of the opinion that using a timeframe in accumulating your bitcoin will help the investor to effectively plan on how to allocate his money into his bitcoin investment either on weekly or monthly basis. The investor will also have a clear expectation which will help him to know if his success rate based on the amount of portfolio he was able to accumulate within the period and not just in a haphazard manner as though you don't have a lead way to somewhere exactly.
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May 30, 2024, 02:44:37 PM
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To be patient in investing, we must first understand the investment well and it is absolutely impossible for someone to persist in investing without properly understanding the investment they are making, that is what is experienced by those who panic when they see the price. Bitcoin is decreasing because they don't understand how it works. Bitcoin is good and for some people who understand it well, there are also those who take advantage of this opportunity to be able to collect more than usual so they can profit from the investments they make.

I think the first thing that needs to be questioned  is what I'm  I investing on and how will I get a good ROI from it and this should  be done before anything...

I didn't get what you are trying to pass very well but I do get an idea that it's  about investing without proper knowledge about an investment...and  you used the case of a dip as an instance that might make an investor to withdrawing his/her investment if I'm right...

Anyone who invest on something  must have heard and done research about it... you can't blindly invest In what you don't  know
Although, Using the case of Bitcoin as an example  learning  and understanding  bitcoin  is on a large scale  which will take years to understand not even completely but getting to know and research on what's it's all about shouldn't take more than a day... so there's no excuse of "Blind investment " Cheesy

Majorities of investors who withdraw after a dip are short term investors  it's  not that they don't know how Bitcoin works but they are just after the short term profit which they feared they might not get after a dip.
Bitcoin doesn't work that way .. there's only one way to panic which is short term investment  , however  a long term investor need not any worries about a dip as its always considered as an opportunity  to buying more.... Learning never stops actually you might want to always remember  that



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Investing a decent amount is also another way to say invest with an amount you can afford to lose. Even if one is responsible or irresponsible, he/she should know that it's very important to invest with an amount that they can always afford to risk. Everyone has an amount that they can afford to lose, but most people don't know.

I don't know if I'm getting you right but why do i feel that  your perception on Bitcoin investment is for trading because when you advised him to use the only money he can afford to lose, perhaps indirectly you are saying that there is a higher chance for him to lose his money Bitcoin or in other words referring to gambling investment, however in as much as nothing is guaranteed when it comes to investment but with Bitcoin success is certain if you are ready to hold, so actually the risk you are talking about should be actually dependent on the kind of investment you are talking about because if your pattern is for a long term holding I wouldn't use the word risk because it seems that you don't really understand or know the potential of Bitcoin you are investing on.

Anything that pertains to investing requires money which you can afford to lose (as commonly used), it is never a story of it being trading or gambling. You cannot be too excited or let optimistism kill you not to understand the fact that, there is possibilities of loss while investing be it in Bitcoin market or any. We all understand the value of Bitcoin but that does not mean we should adhere to aome guidelines and thus invest everything wether it gonna yield or not. Every Investment we have ever made has risk, I don't get were you are having such assumption from;
This is a simple stuff that you should understand before now, no need to overstressed it.

Let us be optimistic, same time never undermine any possibility in a financial market.
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May 30, 2024, 02:58:25 PM
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Anything that pertains to investing requires money which you can afford to lose (as commonly used), it is never a story of it being trading or gambling. You cannot be too excited or let optimistism kill you not to understand the fact that, there is possibilities of loss while investing be it in Bitcoin market or any. We all understand the value of Bitcoin but that does not mean we should adhere to aome guidelines and thus invest everything wether it gonna yield or not. Every Investment we have ever made has risk, I don't get were you are having such assumption from;
This is a simple stuff that you should understand before now, no need to overstressed it.

Let us be optimistic, same time never undermine any possibility in a financial market.
Well,it's  not a bad advice to invest what you can afford  to lose but  every investor must ask themselves if they are here to gamble the ups and down or they are her to make a proper investment.
Bitcoin  is not just any kind of coin that could dump and crash overnight so forget about you losing your investment  there's always something to hold on...
Stop the illusion Smiley



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May 30, 2024, 03:18:45 PM
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See this matter of investing in bitcoin is also something we should take seriously as much as we need to plan for our daily needs, we also have to understand that needs don't finish and they keeps coming up on daily basis, but as much as we have to take care of other things we have to understand that we have to take our investment in bitcoin very serious too. If someone is making a monthly income of $200 and he is investing only $10 I think it's very poor. If you are making monthly income of $200 you should at least invest 10% of the money which is $20 and I don't think it's too much. If $190 can carry you for a month, I think $180 will equally be enough to carry you for the moment. In as much as we are investing, we should also target to have a reasonable amount of fraction of bitcoin and to accumulate it, we have to make some certain level of sacrifice.
We need to realize that we don't need to be aggressive from the beginning if we can't bear it until the end because after all, with the current economic conditions that are increasingly difficult for the majority of us whose economic strata are below average, it will indeed be very difficult if we are too forceful.
You have an income of $200 for a month and spend at least $10 meaning in this case 5% if you can afford it like that why not because if you force it to 10% by putting in $20 during but we actually have to mess around with daily needs that we cannot bear it is a careless step in the end.

So in this case it is better for you to invest with all forms of your readiness and if indeed we can afford $10 but for the long term then why not because it is much better than nothing and of course this is much better than we force $20 but the investment we make does not last long because you cannot afford to spend the 10 percent to invest in the time period you have determined.

Very true. When we can easily identify our strength and weakness before even starting any investment at all, there should be a strong tendency of a long and successful investment. $10 looks fine since we know that we are only focused on a single investment plan, and not focused on any form of diversification. To me, Investment shouldn't be a forceful act, but rather something that comes from my own will. When I agree to make a $10 investment for long term, it should be willingly and not forcefully. But from every general perspective, I think it will be ideal to start with  what your strength can carry and ensure you maintain a consistent level.

I concur to this, going for the investment plan that you can able to withstand continuously is the best approach to Bitcoin investment, your investment shouldn't be in such way that you won't be able to maintain your content funding, lets not forget that to continue a long term journey an investor is suppose to work with what he or she can afford to invest overtime, this why strategy has been rolled out to fit every investor in such way that we can can't give any excuse not to continue investing, many people that withdraw along the line did it because they couldn't figure out strategy that fits their income, in every investment it doesn't the amount for funding may not matter but what matters is what you can afford and consistent funding of your investment so that your long-term expectations will be achieved.

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May 30, 2024, 03:49:20 PM
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Snip.
Well,it's  not a bad advice to invest what you can afford  to lose but  every investor must ask themselves if they are here to gamble the ups and down or they are her to make a proper investment.
Bitcoin  is not just any kind of coin that could dump and crash overnight so forget about you losing your investment  there's always something to hold on...
Stop the illusion Smiley
Desire supported by knowledge will make it easier for investors to achieve the expected goals. Investing money that can afford losses will enable investors to maintain their assets in the long term and prevent all worries that arise due to not being able to control emotions because they are too panicked about market conditions which are increasingly showing a decline. Feelings of joy and sorrow in investing are caused by the investors themselves, Bitcoin is the most appropriate asset for carrying out long-term investment plans. Even though the speculative level is very high, many investors have succeeded in proving their success in investing in Bitcoin.


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