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November 12, 2011, 05:48:11 AM
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$600 for 360MH/s.  Pretty impressive. 
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November 12, 2011, 01:24:47 PM
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$600 for 360MH/s.  Pretty impressive. 

Not where electricity is pretty much dead cheap and where 5870s are available !
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November 12, 2011, 03:10:06 PM
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Is this or any FPGA board going to be usable to someone without an electrical engineering or computer science degree?  Just reading FPGA threads makes my head hurt.

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November 12, 2011, 03:28:32 PM
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$600 for 360MH/s.  Pretty impressive. 

Not where electricity is pretty much dead cheap and where 5870s are available !

Maybe when you hash at 10 MH/s... Cheesy

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November 12, 2011, 05:34:41 PM
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Is this or any FPGA board going to be usable to someone without an electrical engineering or computer science degree?  Just reading FPGA threads makes my head hurt.

  There is very little end-user work to be done on this and several other fpga projects out now.  Being that it is USB means that the developer has likely done the work of programming their mining software to program the chip for you when you run it. Ng will have to verify his software does this, but I know for sure the Ztex software does and if BFL ever release a product their's will be plug and play as well.

  So yes, very usable to common folks like us without PHDs. ;p

If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system.
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November 12, 2011, 05:41:30 PM
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Hope the price rise in 2012, then FPGA will dominate hasing farms.

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November 12, 2011, 06:18:36 PM
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Is this or any FPGA board going to be usable to someone without an electrical engineering or computer science degree?  Just reading FPGA threads makes my head hurt.

  There is very little end-user work to be done on this and several other fpga projects out now.  Being that it is USB means that the developer has likely done the work of programming their mining software to program the chip for you when you run it. Ng will have to verify his software does this, but I know for sure the Ztex software does and if BFL ever release a product their's will be plug and play as well.

  So yes, very usable to common folks like us without PHDs. ;p

no, my mining software is a simple TCL script, and the FPGA config bitstream is stored in the on board flash, which will boot the FPGA when powerup in 500ms.
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November 12, 2011, 06:27:25 PM
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no, my mining software is a simple TCL script, and the FPGA config bitstream is stored in the on board flash, which will boot the FPGA when powerup in 500ms.

That is a nice setup.  Can the onboard-flash be reprogrammed in the field if you improve the bitstream or the flash becomes corrupt?
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November 12, 2011, 07:11:32 PM
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no, my mining software is a simple TCL script, and the FPGA config bitstream is stored in the on board flash, which will boot the FPGA when powerup in 500ms.

That is a nice setup.  Can the onboard-flash be reprogrammed in the field if you improve the bitstream or the flash becomes corrupt?

certainly, by using a XILINX platform cable and the Labtooles software.
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November 15, 2011, 05:05:24 AM
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Icarus will soon open pre-order.

the pre-order fee is 1 BTC. and this 1BTC will change to a gift pack for the first batch buyer.

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November 15, 2011, 08:39:15 PM
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How is your board going to compete with BFL Labs ? Hopefully they are not scammers.
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November 16, 2011, 01:57:50 AM
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How is your board going to compete with BFL Labs ? Hopefully they are not scammers.

how to compete with scammers?
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November 16, 2011, 01:59:03 AM
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How is your board going to compete with BFL Labs ? Hopefully they are not scammers.

how to compete with scammers?

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November 16, 2011, 05:56:25 AM
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how to compete with scammers?

Take the GH number they're promising and double it at the same cost & power.
Promise a 13-20 week ship date allowing you to use 28nm engineering sample FPGAs.
Then, start charging credit cards for pre-orders right away, and send the buyers a couple pics of empty PCBs
so they don't dispute the charge before the cutoff. Congratulations, now you are a proper Bitcoin scammer!  Grin

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November 16, 2011, 06:30:36 AM
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how to compete with scammers?

Take the GH number they're promising and double it at the same cost & power.
Promise a 13-20 week ship date allowing you to use 28nm engineering sample FPGAs.
Then, start charging credit cards for pre-orders right away, and send the buyers a couple pics of empty PCBs
so they don't dispute the charge before the cutoff. Congratulations, now you are a proper Bitcoin scammer!  Grin

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YES. a XC7A200T is very possible to reach 400MH/s, and the cost is seems equal to XC6SLX150. with FBG package,  heat  dissipation also can be easily handled.

why not i go to  registration   a new ID and start a new project like this ? Grin
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November 16, 2011, 06:34:44 AM
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why not i go to  registration   a new ID and start a new project like this ? Grin

Unfortunately A7 is almost 1 yr away from what I've heard.

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November 17, 2011, 12:42:38 PM
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Hello everybody
Lets hope the A7 wil get to us soon;)
Might bring uns some exiting next generations of FPGA boards.

@ ngzhang
I send you am PM.I would like to get one of your first batch boards.
 

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November 17, 2011, 01:51:20 PM
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Hello everybody
Lets hope the A7 wil get to us soon;)
Might bring uns some exiting next generations of FPGA boards.

@ ngzhang
I send you am PM.I would like to get one of your first batch boards.
 

first develop user appears.  Grin

i replied your PM.
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November 17, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
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I'm also considering to buy one. But have few doubts. You claim that first batch buyers will get xilinx programming cable (clone I supose) and ISE 13.2 right?

What about upgrading ISE, it will be possible in future? When A7 arrives I wanted to experiment with them and fully licensed ISE will be necessary. For now ISE 13.3 supports XC7A8 & 15 but it requires licence (what kind I don't know). Can you check that is possible to upgrade and synthesize something for Atrixes?

Do you release schematics for board? I would like to look at it, before decide to buy.

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November 17, 2011, 03:07:26 PM
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all data about Icarus will make public when the pre order started, include all SCHs, ISE projects, etc

I guess that answers at least a part of your questions.Smiley

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