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July 23, 2012, 03:07:38 AM
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Xiangfu, its panels or no power.  Thats how cool it is here <grins>

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July 23, 2012, 06:29:01 AM
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For quick notice:

One week ago  the fuse on my icarus board got killed.

I exchanged the broken one (3,25 A/Voltage ?) for a 2A one i had around.
But i am still to find the cause why the original one got killed in the first place.

Anyone has experienced similar problems ?

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July 24, 2012, 03:27:12 PM
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I think I met once. when I power off, power on the device. I am suing a 12V, 2A power adapter. after broken the fuse, I switched to ATX power.


For quick notice:

One week ago  the fuse on my icarus board got killed.

I exchanged the broken one (3,25 A/Voltage ?) for a 2A one i had around.
But i am still to find the cause why the original one got killed in the first place.

Anyone has experienced similar problems ?

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July 31, 2012, 05:33:56 AM
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hi guys,
is this what we need to program icarus with new bitstream?
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=jtag+fpga&_sacat=0&_odkw=jtag+cable&_osacat=0
thanks
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August 15, 2012, 10:11:23 AM
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For quick notice:

One week ago  the fuse on my icarus board got killed.

I exchanged the broken one (3,25 A/Voltage ?) for a 2A one i had around.
But i am still to find the cause why the original one got killed in the first place.

Anyone has experienced similar problems ?

Yes, I burned a fuse when I first got my Icarus when I was assembling the spacers. The screwdriver went across some contacts and shorted the fuse. The power switch was off but it was plugged in. Still had some current running through the area I touched. Better to always unplug everything. After replacing the fuse with a new one from Digikey the board works perfectly.
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September 16, 2012, 07:33:59 PM
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BitMinter client v1.3.0 released today. Now supports Icarus and Icarus-compatible FPGAs.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31163.msg1196221#msg1196221

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September 30, 2012, 11:50:08 AM
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Embarrassed

V4 ..

will have a final bitsteam update next week(i hope). and completely change the architecture.
please wait for that before do any optimization effort.

 Huh

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October 01, 2012, 09:42:31 AM
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Embarrassed

V4 ..

will have a final bitsteam update next week(i hope). and completely change the architecture.
please wait for that before do any optimization effort.

 Huh

Yeah, an update about the new bitstream for Icarus boards after 12th of July would be nice... Smiley

Sunny regards,
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October 21, 2012, 10:56:12 AM
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ngzhang?

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October 24, 2012, 11:37:28 AM
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Icarus is DISCONTINUED anyway. we don't have any new updates even for Lancelots!
unless ngzhang think that every of these boards will be replaced by ASICs thus no new bitstream
worth to be implemented!
WRONG! i like those boards and i don't want to replace them.I don't even care for electricity Wink
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February 25, 2013, 03:37:36 PM
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Hi guys, I have question about starting cgminer with this Icarus board.
I just connected one Icarus board to PSU and USB, fan is not moving, everything is silent, no leds, but Linux has found new USB device:
Code:
$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 008: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
Results:
Code:
$ cgminer -S noauto -S /dev/ttyUSB0
All devices disabled, cannot mine!

What I am doing wrong? Fan should be off and it starting automatically?

I checked fuse after reading this http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Icarus#Pictures and it's fine.
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February 25, 2013, 04:34:24 PM
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Sure that the little black switch on the left is "on" ?

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February 25, 2013, 05:48:06 PM
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Possible one of on-board DC/DC converters failed to start.
Examine schematics sheets POWER and POWER_IO: https://github.com/ngzhang/Icarus/blob/master/Downloads/SCHinPDF/Icarus_V2.pdf
They connect PW_GOOD and EN signals of U5,U6,U9,U10 in daisy-chain so if one of converters failed all board remain unpowered.

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February 25, 2013, 09:39:21 PM
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According that ASIC's are already shipped, I would not invest that much in FPGA's anymore.

BTW, I didn't know there is a hashvoodoo bitstream for the icarus boards ? I thought maximum was the 180MHz stream ?

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February 25, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
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Seller is saying that they doing 800MH/s. They are in mixed setings, some 2x2 Icarus setup, some HashVooDoo single ones.

What would you say for 800 GBP for both?



are you changing the bitstream on those icarus I sent? care to share more about this?
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February 26, 2013, 04:24:38 AM
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Seller is saying that they doing 800MH/s. They are in mixed setings, some 2x2 Icarus setup, some HashVooDoo single ones.

What would you say for 800 GBP for both?



are you changing the bitstream on those icarus I sent? care to share more about this?

This message was about Cairnsmore1, it should go somewhere else Smiley Sorry.
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April 26, 2013, 03:35:05 AM
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important announcement:

3rd batch is over.

if you ordered but have no payment inform response, this may cause by my negligence. first i apologize for the careless.
all bulk order shipped, and there are still a few boards left for small orders, they can be shipped in 2-3 days.
if you still want it, please sent me a PM or email ASAP.

if you payed but didn't get my shipment confirmation (include a tracking NO.), this may cause by my negligence. first i apologize for the careless.
please notice me by PM ASAP!

there will be NO batch4 for Icarus project.
and i still have some boards on my hands, but i will reserve them for testing and replace purpose. if you want one eagerly, please feel free to mail me.  Grin

i will take a month break and put most of energy on my next product. and the improvement the bitsteam.
i'm very happy to announce here. next product will begin to use a new name:

Lancelot

any performance index is still a secret. but will be still an open sourced project. and it's original bitsteam will compatibility with present Icarus.

check it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79835.0


regards.

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After months of work, finally I build a FPGA mining cluster using the board "Icarus".
each board has 2 XC6SLX150 -2FGG484I on it, generates a 380MH/s hashing power. 19.2W (full load working) / 3.4W (idle) power consuming (board input, without fan). here a detail spec table:

Technology: Spartan6 -LX150 -2I (or -3C)
speed (MH/s): 380
$: 569 (1) / 469$ (multiple of 30) (-5$ if you do not need the adapter, recommend for bulk orders, they are heavy)
W: 4.5 for idle / 21 for full load. (notice this is the on wall power, include the adapter losses and fan)





different form other's design, I put much more(100+) GPIOs on this board, and planty of interconnect wires between the 2 FPGAs(50+). most of them are routed as diff-pairs. and this board has a 6 layers PCB.

the core-voltage regulator can offer up to 15A current for each FPGA, and the VCCIO(3.3V)/ VCCAUX(2.5V) is 3A each. All capacitors are solid, even I used 2 Tantalum polymer capacitors (2R5TPE680MFL) for the core_voltage.

a simple USB-UART interface is also on board.





any questions are welcome.

PS: English is really not my native language.  

EDIT@2012/1/2:

By optimized mining script, Icarus now can mining quite stable and efficiency.


notice that worker 21and22 are 2X HD6870s@295MHs/card for compare.

long pool is supported by MPBM 0.04 and cgminer . mining chain connection is only support 2 FPGAs (1 board).

a better mining control logic and script is still under development, but present system really works well.

Icarus is a GPL open sourced project, all data about Icarus was public, include all SCHs, ISE projects, etc. this design in under the Hardware Design Public License Version 0.04.

This is the link:

https://github.com/ngzhang/Icarus

This products is highly recommended for fpga developer and hardcore minners.


pre-order price is 569$/each.
DEV kit is 69$/each.
80pin TE 1734037 and 1734099 connector is 10$/ pair. (no use for mining, just for DIY)

240pin DDR-3 DIMM connector is 5$/ each. (no use for mining, just for DIY)



payment accept:
BTC, by the dynamic exchange rate, no extra fees.
mtgox $, no extra fees.
LR account, no extra fees.
paypal , add 10% charge. (because paypal charges nearly 10%)
no amount discount and edu discount.


order details:

1, read and comprehend sections below:
    A: Icarus is a development platform, and it's a good evaluation board. i designed this hardware not only for bitcoin mining, but also for developers.
    B: I'm not good at software. so the original mining software is not good enough, so i suggest to use 3rd party miner instead .
    C: warranty for this product. before shipping, all boards test for weeks. and please test them in 48Hrs after you received them. if any hardware fault happened, you can send it to me and i'll repair it if i can, you only need pay the parts cost and factory cost and shipment cost.
    D: now, chain mode is not support, so a USB cable is needed for each board.
    E: additional @ any time.

2, the 2nd batch is over, and 3rd batch delivery may start at mid- Feb. ~ end of Feb..

3, each buyer can buy 5 boards at most. each board include a USB cable, standard cooling system(heatsink and fan), a 12V/2A wall adapter. boards are programmed and open-box can use.

4, DEV kit include a XILINX platform cable USB, a USB stick with XILINX ISE 13.2/ altium 10/ synplify 2011.03, modelsim 10, all with crack but use as your own risk, commercial use is  illegal in my country (but legal for personal use in my country )) .

5, shipment cost and tax is pay by customer. shipping is using EMS, you can inquire the shipping cost at China EMS official  site:

http://www.ems.com.cn/serviceguide/zifeichaxun/e_zi_fei_cha_xun.html

6, only first batch buyers enjoy a 10% discount. 512$/each!

7, if you want to pre-order, write an e-mail to:  ngzhang1983@msn.com   at any time.
    Chinese is the preferred langue, if you can not type chinese, please write it in simple english. any loses caused by mis-understanding will assume by you. in this email, give me your shipment address, i will check it for the shipment cost. please follow this format:

A: what you want, and quantity.
B: your address:
       name:
       company(optional):
       house number, street number, district:
       city:
       province:
       country:
       ZIP:
       TEL:
C: pre-order fee is 0 now/ each

i reserve the rights to choice my customers.

8, the hardware design file is released, so check it and buy it as your own risk. (check my signature)

9, the theory mining hash rate is 380MH/s, guarantied. but will lose some speed lie in network issues. at a good network connection, a real world hashing speed is around 375+ MH/s, and low stale rate.

10, new miner code and software code will release @ github.

11, 1st and 2nd batch boards are all shipped out!

12, small orders payment is BTC or LR or mtgox$. Paypal is supported too, but will cost a extra fee. bulk orders ( >1000$ ) i suggest use wire transfer.

13, before shipment, Icarus has already write a original firmware in its config flash rom, this firmware can be updated using a xilinx platform cable and impact software.  i'm very happy to see third party firmwares and additional components .

14, shipment require a paid in full. if you has doubts ,please use paypal. or "alipay" (some thing like paypal and origin in china ).

15, if you send me a pre-order email, but don't receive a reply in 24H, there must be some trouble on the mail system, i'm  in china ,you know. so please give me a PM.

16, 12V/2A adapter is really enough now. and a 12V/3.33A adapter is prepared for the future.

ADD@1/19

a simple GUIDE for the new firmware and miner. notice that all 2nd batch boards shipped out with the new firmware.
1, download and install python 2.7

http://python.org/getit/

2, install serial / jsonrpc / curses lib into the python27/Lib folder. if you can not find them on the internet , please email me, i will give you them via email.

3, download and install the USB_UART driver, it's PL2303HXD:

http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?id=31

4, edit the miner.bat and start to mine!


ADD@1/28

some proposal of heat control.

the boards and standard cooling system is tested under the ambient temperature of 23 centigrade. if your temp is over 30 centigrade, an additional cooling is recommended. an airflow pass the whole board is a good choice.

notice the power module is very heatproof, but the FPGA will generate error data when they reach a high temperature. a simple method to sense if the temperature is touch the back side of the PCB, just under the FPGA chip. notice before do this you need a electro static discharge.
if you can not hold your finger at  the back side of the FPGA for 3 seconds. then a additional cooling is needed.
the FPGA chip uses whole PCB for heat dissipation, so an airflow passing the PCB is more important than the fan above the heat-sink.


Icarus communication protocol

this specification is for anyone who want to write their own miner or want to add support for icarus.

this device is designed as  "the simplest is the best" idea.
the FPGAs on board or even in chain mode (under development) , act as a single miner to the uart port. when the board connect to a PC, it recognized as a ttyUSB device, or "COM*" on windows PC.
how to operate:
1, no detection is needed (no special command for this).  
2, sending work data:
  each data packet is 512bit (64 byte) length. the format is : 256bits MIDSTATE + 160bits fill bits(can be any value) + 96bits data (last 12 bytes of block header). over.
3, sending back the results:
  if the fpga found a valid nonce, they will send back the 32bits nonce result immediately. no any query protocol is implemented here.

so a simple work process is described below:

send a work pass the COM port, start a timer and a listener on the COM port.
if any data send back by the COM port, then this is a valid nonce. push a new work to the FPGA and send the result back to the pool.
if no data send back in 11.3 seconds (a full cover time on 32bit nonce range by 380MH/s speed), send another work.

some point:
1,FPGA will start the calculate when you push a work to them, even they are busy. that means if a block has been found, the miner could push a new immediately to overlap the old work in the fpga.
2,the 2 fpgas on one board will distribute the 32bit nonce to calculate. one will calculate the 0 ~ 7FFFFFFF, and the other will cover the 80000000 ~ FFFFFFFF. so if you want to do any performance measure on this device, please notice this feature.
3,FPGA will stop work when: a valid nonce has been found or 32 bits nonce range is completely calculated. notice that it's possible for 2 FPGA both find valid nonce in the meantime, the 2 valid nonce will all be send back.

ADD@2/2/2012
3rd batch is going smoothly. the production will start around Feb.14, and the shipment will start around Feb.20. maybe sooner or later.
due to lack of spartan-6 LX150 FPGA chips, order a large quantity of FPGAs take a longer time.
all other components are on their way and will on my hand this week.
i delayed some bulk orders, so if you just order for a few boards, you will not be affected. the shipment date will around Feb.20
i will inform you when the boards are come out, if you pre-ordered before. in order to simplify the ordering process, I decide to cancel the pre-order payment flow for small quantity orders . I just start the production, and you just need to pay once after the final test, when the boards are ready for shipping.

ADD@2/15/2012
sorry every one. my plan is start and finish the production today (100+ boards only need 1-2 days for production), but one of my spartan6 package(120 chips) stuck at the customs until now, it should be in my hands the day before yesterday.
i contact with my supplier and they sad the pack will arrive my home around next Tuesday.
so it looks like our plan must delay for about 1 week.

I am very sorry for the delay caused by force majeure. Embarrassed

ADD@2/18/2012
3rd batch production start today. SMT is over, and the DIP soldering needs 2 more days. at my request, i got 5 of them today, and will test them tonight. 3rd batch have some BOM change.

ADD@2/20/2012
5 boards running happily.

ADD@2/29/2012

i already send out mails to any pre-order BEFORE 2/5 . shipment is over today.

i will start to process pre-order after 2/6 soon.

may additional @ any time.

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i wanna one ;d PM-me with the price if u will

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April 28, 2013, 04:39:59 PM
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Mate, this project is already discontinued.
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February 28, 2014, 07:38:25 PM
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does anybody know if this boards can be used for other purposes?, can they be reprogrammed? , I could get some boards for cheap and I'm interested in learning some FPGA , thanks in advance
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February 28, 2014, 11:30:15 PM
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does anybody know if this boards can be used for other purposes?, can they be reprogrammed? , I could get some boards for cheap and I'm interested in learning some FPGA , thanks in advance
Of course they can - they are FPGAs.
However, they don't have memory (as such) so no you can't do scrypt with it without a hardware memory addition.

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