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September 05, 2024, 11:44:20 AM
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Remember how I told that UFC got into trap after making so cool UFC 298-300 events? Now with each next event fans expect only better cards, but got decent. They are in huge troubles every time they make numeral event, and outside UEA Cheesy I have seen multiple times how Dana said that he wants UFC to be first sport event to be held in Sphere, how cool that venue is. And we get only few big fights in main event. While previously there were events, where all fights in main card and most of prelims were worth not missing.

Rosas Jr., a guy with charisma and a increasing hype around. Why he is in early prelims? Who was in charge of matchmaking? 2 women fights in prelims. People will watch Rosas, then go away and return on Ortega vs Lopes fight.

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September 05, 2024, 06:30:35 PM
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^  He's just trying to be funny and the journos are trying to make something out of it for clicks.

If he is trying to be funny and get some camera star lights (for a better pay check), then it will be hard for him to beat his previous "act of funniness" -->  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8VjcLEHxjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmcpmKEHB1o first short vid from compilation. Merab really scares fans Cheesy Went looking for Merab funny video, drawn in youtube watching how crazy this guy is Cheesy Crazy, but kind and funny guy.

Btw, have you noticed, the smaller and lighter fighters are, the funny, kind and humble they are. We rarely see big guys being Mr. Nice Guys.

The timing of him being funny these days however can be interpreted differently like what MMA guru was saying about Merab just few hours ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIcsFKVjdQ0&t=8s People just have different views to what is happening. But MMAA guru is doubling down to Omalley by KO.

Its fun watching this guy especially because he always has takes to everything what Dana does even in this Sphere while this is for Mexican Independence day and Mexican fighters are prioritized, Dana held this in Sphere Las Vegas when he should be doing it in Mexico.

Must have really flopped that they reduced the price to 800USD. Probably due to the Canelo boxing match in Tmobile Las Vegas as well.


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September 05, 2024, 06:48:11 PM
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Remember how I told that UFC got into trap after making so cool UFC 298-300 events? Now with each next event fans expect only better cards, but got decent. They are in huge troubles every time they make numeral event, and outside UEA Cheesy I have seen multiple times how Dana said that he wants UFC to be first sport event to be held in Sphere, how cool that venue is. And we get only few big fights in main event. While previously there were events, where all fights in main card and most of prelims were worth not missing.

Rosas Jr., a guy with charisma and a increasing hype around. Why he is in early prelims? Who was in charge of matchmaking? 2 women fights in prelims. People will watch Rosas, then go away and return on Ortega vs Lopes fight.

The Contender Series is precisely to bring in new talent, because it comes at a time when fighters don't want to fight, or they want more money, among other things. Among other reasons, this ends up making the cards weak, and they don't change all the categories and leave many fighters idle. While others fight several times a year. So the Contender Series is precisely to avoid this kind of thing, to bring in people with energy who accept a lot and who knows, maybe they'll find a new star.

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September 05, 2024, 08:50:15 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen - meet the next president of Ireland:



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/mma/article-13817591/Conor-McGregor-ireland-president.html

McGregor has hinted before he would run for president one day and 7h ago he confirmed his plans on X:
https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1831676863334273494

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As President I hold the power to summon the Dáil as well as dissolve it. So as i said before, I would have all the answers the people of Ireland seek from these thieves of the working man, these disrupters of the family unit, these destructors of small businesses, and on and on and on! These charlatans in their positions of power would be summoned to answer to the people of Ireland and I would have it done by day end. Or I would be left with no choice but to dissolve the Dáil entirely. Stop the train until. The people of Ireland deserve the answers they seek. Point blank. This would be my power as President. I know very well. Ireland needs an active President employed wholly by the people of Ireland. It is me. I am the only logical choice. 2025 is upcoming…

Is he serious or trolling? Who knows...

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September 06, 2024, 08:26:45 AM
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Must have really flopped that they reduced the price to 800USD. Probably due to the Canelo boxing match in Tmobile Las Vegas as well.


I remember there was a case (or maybe these were just rumours), that when Canelo fought Kovalev at the same night when Nate Diaz was fighting Masvidal, they had to wait for 2 hours for Diaz vs Masvidal fight to over, so that they can start their and grab attention of viewers back. https://www.instagram.com/p/C-BIxtPpgr5 that is that case. Now the story turned 180 degrees and UFC had to do something to get attention back.

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September 06, 2024, 11:28:46 AM
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^  Would be a waste if the seats aren't filled for people to get into the whole experience.  I watched Cirque Du Soleil a couple of times and I could imagine it to be the same in the Sphere, but with fighting.  Dunno tho, but the walk ins could be interesting.

And those ticket prices that were reduced, they're prolly the cheaper seats as last I've heard the cheapest ones for 306 were around 1.5k USD or something.  Those should fill up pretty quick at 800 imho.

Anyway weigh ins in around 4 hours...

UFC Fight Night Burns vs Brady:  Live Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHE8l2nB1Vg

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September 06, 2024, 02:02:46 PM
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^  Would be a waste if the seats aren't filled for people to get into the whole experience.  I watched Cirque Du Soleil a couple of times and I could imagine it to be the same in the Sphere, but with fighting.  Dunno tho, but the walk ins could be interesting.

And those ticket prices that were reduced, they're prolly the cheaper seats as last I've heard the cheapest ones for 306 were around 1.5k USD or something.  Those should fill up pretty quick at 800 imho.

Anyway weigh ins in around 4 hours...

UFC Fight Night Burns vs Brady:  Live Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHE8l2nB1Vg

What I think is that they are trying to bring hype in every way possible to fighters who don't have a large fan base or simply don't want it. It seems that they, the fighters, don't understand that they are a brand. And because of that, they need to take care of their image and have a fan base to earn even more, get sponsorship, etc., etc.

But 90% of fighters can't understand this and end up living one day at a time and spending it all.

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September 06, 2024, 04:36:46 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen - meet the next president of Ireland:



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/mma/article-13817591/Conor-McGregor-ireland-president.html

McGregor has hinted before he would run for president one day and 7h ago he confirmed his plans on X:
https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1831676863334273494

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As President I hold the power to summon the Dáil as well as dissolve it. So as i said before, I would have all the answers the people of Ireland seek from these thieves of the working man, these disrupters of the family unit, these destructors of small businesses, and on and on and on! These charlatans in their positions of power would be summoned to answer to the people of Ireland and I would have it done by day end. Or I would be left with no choice but to dissolve the Dáil entirely. Stop the train until. The people of Ireland deserve the answers they seek. Point blank. This would be my power as President. I know very well. Ireland needs an active President employed wholly by the people of Ireland. It is me. I am the only logical choice. 2025 is upcoming…

Is he serious or trolling? Who knows...

Elon replied to his x thread with "Awesome".
Conor already has his theme which is "Make Ireland Great Again'. I think he is serious. He has been involved in some commotions I think last year related to immigration in the country. The only qualification required to win a presidency these days is popularity. If we talk about brand, Conor has it, he just has to walk the walk.


Must have really flopped that they reduced the price to 800USD. Probably due to the Canelo boxing match in Tmobile Las Vegas as well.


I remember there was a case (or maybe these were just rumours), that when Canelo fought Kovalev at the same night when Nate Diaz was fighting Masvidal, they had to wait for 2 hours for Diaz vs Masvidal fight to over, so that they can start their and grab attention of viewers back. https://www.instagram.com/p/C-BIxtPpgr5 that is that case. Now the story turned 180 degrees and UFC had to do something to get attention back.

I think because that was the first MBF title, 2 hours of waiting seemed okay yet only to be disappointed by stoppage. But both are the most popular during that time while Omalley despite how he looks great in every fight, his rainbow attacks haters.

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^  Would be a waste if the seats aren't filled for people to get into the whole experience.  I watched Cirque Du Soleil a couple of times and I could imagine it to be the same in the Sphere, but with fighting.  Dunno tho, but the walk ins could be interesting.

And those ticket prices that were reduced, they're prolly the cheaper seats as last I've heard the cheapest ones for 306 were around 1.5k USD or something.  Those should fill up pretty quick at 800 imho.

Anyway weigh ins in around 4 hours...

UFC Fight Night Burns vs Brady:  Live Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHE8l2nB1Vg

What I think is that they are trying to bring hype in every way possible to fighters who don't have a large fan base or simply don't want it. It seems that they, the fighters, don't understand that they are a brand. And because of that, they need to take care of their image and have a fan base to earn even more, get sponsorship, etc., etc.

But 90% of fighters can't understand this and end up living one day at a time and spending it all.

Another thing about the ticket prices, at 306 the cheap seats in the Sphere go for 1.5k before discount, the cheap seats at the T Mobile Arena which is also at Las Vegas for UFC 300 went for 700 bucks.  So yeah...  They had to slash the price to get people to buy the cheap seats at the Sphere.  Maybe if the main event is Jones vs Aspinall, co main is O'Malley vs Merab then with Grasso vs Shev and put in a BMF in there with Holloway vs some bad dude...  Pretty sure those cheap seats at 1.5k would fill up fast.  Cheesy Cheesy

Here are the weigh in results for this week's event.

Gilbert Burns (171) vs Sean Brady (171)
Jessica Andrade (124.5) vs Natalia Silva (125.5)
Steve Garcia (145.5) vs Kyle Nelson (148.5)*
Cody Durden (135) vs Matt Schnell (135)
Yanal Ashmouz (154.5) vs Trevor Peek (155)
Chris Padilla (154) vs Rong Zhu (155.5)
Isaac Dulgarian (145.5) vs Brendon Marotte (145)
Felipe dos Santos (124.5) vs Andre Lima (125.5)
Gabriel Santos (146) vs Yi Zha (144.5)
Jaqueline Amorim (115.5) vs Vanessa Demopoulos (116)
Dylan Budka (188.5)* vs Andre Petroski (185.5)
Nathan Fletcher (145) vs Zygimantas Ramaska (145.5)

*Missed weight

So Nelson is 2.5 lbs over the limit.  It looks to me like he didn't try to lose the last couple lbs, which also looks like he'll be fresh for the match.  Getting worried with Steve Garcia now. 

Schnell's original opponent backed out.  So Durden is taking over than the fight is gonna be at 135.  I think Schnell has a good chance to win here as an underdog as the higher weight class could help with his chin and durability issues.  Hmmm...

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In the UFC Fight Night event I took three fights that I thought were quite interesting and easy to bet on, but only one was the most impressive of the three selected fights.
YiZha vs Gabriel Santos, Isaac Dulgarian vs Brendon Marotte and the last one was the main card fight between Gilbert Burns vs Sean Brady.
Gilbert Burns vs Sean Brady was very interesting fight and quite fierce considering they lasted until the last round was finished and the victory by decision was obtained by Sean Brady, this was bitter defeat that was again obtained Gilbert Burns after previously being tragically defeated by Khamzat Chimaev.

I got good slip in today event and all three fights resulted in win.


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September 08, 2024, 11:48:23 AM
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^  Nice double up.  Plain and simple...  I tend to over complicate things and think 'maybe this underdog has value' and end up losing some money.  Lolol.

Anyway, here are the results for the event.

Sean Brady def   Gilbert Burns  UD
Natalia Silva def Jessica Andrade  UD
Steve Garcia def Kyle Nelson  TKO R1
Cody Durden def Matt Schnell  SUB R2
Yanal Ashmouz def Trevor Peek  UD
Chris Padilla def Rong Zhu  TKO R2
Isaac Dulgarian def Brendon Marotte  SUB R2
Andre Lima def Felipe dos Santos  UD
Gabriel Santos def Yi Zha  UD
Jaqueline Amorim def Vanessa Demopoulos  SUB R1
Andre Petroski def Dylan Budka   Decision  UD
Nathan Fletcher def Zygimantas Ramaska  SUB R2

Glad that's over and dine with.  Next week we got and event with visuals.  Grin

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September 09, 2024, 06:07:46 AM
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UFC 306



Date: September 14, 2024

Early Prelims: Sun, Sep 15 / 2:30 AM GMT+3
Preliminary Card: Sun, Sep 15 / 3:00 AM GMT+3
Main Card: Sun, Sep 15 / 5:00 AM GMT+3

Venue: Sphere

Main card (ESPN)
Bantamweight: Sean O'Malley vs. Merab Dvalishvili
Women's Flyweight: Alexa Grasso vs. Valentina Shevchenko
Featherweight: Brian Ortega vs. Diego Lopes            
Lightweight: Daniel Zellhuber vs. Esteban Ribovics            
Flyweight: Ronaldo Rodríguez vs. Ode' Osbourne

Preliminary card (ESPN)
Women's Bantamweight: Irene Aldana vs. Norma Dumont            
Lightweight: Ignacio Bahamondes vs. Manuel Torres            
Women's Strawweight: Yazmin Jauregui vs. Ketlen Souza            
Flyweight: Edgar Chairez vs. Joshua Van

Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)
Bantamweight: Raul Rosas Jr. vs. Aori Qileng

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_306

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^  How is Ronaldo Rodriguez vs Ode Osbourne in the main card and Raul Rosas vs Qileng is not?  Lolol.  Cheesy Cheesy  Sometimes i just don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Anyway, I feel like we've already said what needed to be said about the event.  Grin  Let's just wait for Merab to upload another banger at IG I guess.  Cheesy

Here's the countdown vid.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDwQL_Dyonk

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^  How is Ronaldo Rodriguez vs Ode Osbourne in the main card and Raul Rosas vs Qileng is not?  Lolol.  Cheesy Cheesy  Sometimes i just don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Anyway, I feel like we've already said what needed to be said about the event.  Grin  Let's just wait for Merab to upload another banger at IG I guess.  Cheesy

Here's the countdown vid.

UFC 306:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDwQL_Dyonk

Yeap, I wrote that last week - who is the matchmaker for UFC 306? I dont understand why the events opens with Rosas fight? Was it made on purpose, to catch attention of audience from the very start. But the should have made next fights even better if they start with such a flashy fight. If they start with Rosas, they show Chairez vs Van and that fight did not impress viewers, after next fight people could switch channel. And frankly speaking, main event could be better for an event in such a venue. Pereira is always ready to fight, as well as Volkanovski Cheesy They could have done a better main event Cheesy

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September 09, 2024, 05:36:40 PM
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^  How is Ronaldo Rodriguez vs Ode Osbourne in the main card and Raul Rosas vs Qileng is not?  Lolol.  Cheesy Cheesy  Sometimes i just don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Anyway, I feel like we've already said what needed to be said about the event.  Grin  Let's just wait for Merab to upload another banger at IG I guess.  Cheesy

Here's the countdown vid.

UFC 306:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDwQL_Dyonk

Yeap, I wrote that last week - who is the matchmaker for UFC 306? I dont understand why the events opens with Rosas fight? Was it made on purpose, to catch attention of audience from the very start. But the should have made next fights even better if they start with such a flashy fight. If they start with Rosas, they show Chairez vs Van and that fight did not impress viewers, after next fight people could switch channel. And frankly speaking, main event could be better for an event in such a venue. Pereira is always ready to fight, as well as Volkanovski Cheesy They could have done a better main event Cheesy

Maybe it's a strategy. It's kind of a big concert where they have to fire up the night before the main band performs, and they allow local stars to sing and draw the crowd. Rosas is the next likely candidate to make people watch. He seems to be more famous than Daniel Zellhuber or Lady Boy Ronaldo Rodriguez.

UFC having a hard time competing the Canelo fight. Alalshikh is about to sabotage UFC, he is more of a boxing fan AFAIK.

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Yeap, I wrote that last week - who is the matchmaker for UFC 306? I dont understand why the events opens with Rosas fight? Was it made on purpose, to catch attention of audience from the very start. (...)

I don't know, but it reminds me of Mokaev's fight at the UFC 304 getting moved to prelims and we all know what happened to him.
R.I.P. Rosas, you will be missed  Cry



Anyhow, here are the odds for the main card fights:

Sean O'Malley x1.82 vs. Merab Dvalishvili x1.98
Alexa Grasso x1.80 vs. Valentina Shevchenko x2.02
Brian Ortega x2.50 vs. Diego Lopes x1.53
Daniel Zellhuber x1.42 vs. Esteban Ribovics x2.88
Ronaldo Rodríguez x1.76 vs. Ode' Osbourne x2.07

I imagined O'Malley would be more of a favourite, but I think the odds look quite fair.

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UFC having a hard time competing the Canelo fight. Alalshikh is about to sabotage UFC, he is more of a boxing fan AFAIK.

I would very much agree if the Canelo's opponent is David Benavidez or if this is a superfight between Canelo and Bud Crawford. However, if you say this without considering Canelo's next opponent on saturday, this is very headshaking hehehehe.

On Alalshikh, I agree! He is a boxing fan who loves this sport very much. This might also be why there are speculations that uncle Dana's next project is a boxing promotion with Alalshikh. I reckon this project might also be with uncle Dana's original partners in the UFC heheeh.

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Maybe it's a strategy. It's kind of a big concert where they have to fire up the night before the main band performs, and they allow local stars to sing and draw the crowd. Rosas is the next likely candidate to make people watch. He seems to be more famous than Daniel Zellhuber or Lady Boy Ronaldo Rodriguez.

UFC having a hard time competing the Canelo fight. Alalshikh is about to sabotage UFC, he is more of a boxing fan AFAIK.


Then Rosas needs to do something really big to fire up the night, because the fights that comes after can easily stop that fire Cheesy Maybe trick is to steal Mexican audience (Canelo) by starting event with Rosas, who is a Mexican also? Just to make people switch channels or PPV streams for 10-20minutes, and that will be enough to pull blanket on UFC side. Btw, anyone knows PPV prices for Canelo and UFC 306 ? Dont think that people would be ready to buy both translations, and forcing them to buy PPV to watch Rosas, might work and make people not spending on Canelo fight. Dunno... Weird card.

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Yeap, I wrote that last week - who is the matchmaker for UFC 306? I dont understand why the events opens with Rosas fight? Was it made on purpose, to catch attention of audience from the very start. (...)

I don't know, but it reminds me of Mokaev's fight at the UFC 304 getting moved to prelims and we all know what happened to him.
R.I.P. Rosas, you will be missed  Cry



Anyhow, here are the odds for the main card fights:

Sean O'Malley x1.82 vs. Merab Dvalishvili x1.98
Alexa Grasso x1.80 vs. Valentina Shevchenko x2.02
Brian Ortega x2.50 vs. Diego Lopes x1.53
Daniel Zellhuber x1.42 vs. Esteban Ribovics x2.88
Ronaldo Rodríguez x1.76 vs. Ode' Osbourne x2.07

I imagined O'Malley would be more of a favourite, but I think the odds look quite fair.

You're kidding right?  Rosas is one of the more likeable guys in the UFC, unlike Mokaev...  Who comes across as a douche and he's so cringe tbh.  Pretty sure it's like what Toptort says.  They wanna open the event with a bang.  Something like Rosas via SUB at R1.  Grin Grin 

Anyway, not sure why Merab is the slight underdog here...  And it will prolly go more towards O'Malley close to the weekend and make Dvalishvili's have more value.

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September 10, 2024, 10:05:53 AM
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You're kidding right?  Rosas is one of the more likeable guys in the UFC, unlike Mokaev...  Who comes across as a douche and he's so cringe tbh.  Pretty sure it's like what Toptort says.  They wanna open the event with a bang.  Something like Rosas via SUB at R1.  Grin Grin 

But match ups and card does not match the size and glory of the event and venue Cheesy

Ok, main card is good.

Co-main event. A third fight between Grasso and Shevchenko. I never liked when fighters meet three times and more. What is the point of that and keeping whole division on pause. Shevchenko lost via submission and that was enough to put an end in their competition. I could understand if in the first fight Valentina was dominating, and lost by accident; and they had a split draw again. But as I remember Grasso won fair and square.

Ortega - Lopes. Nothing to discuss, good and expected fight.

Zellhuber vs Ribovics and Rodriguez vs Osbourne. They are in main card only because they are Mexicans and September 14 is Mexican independence day? Every prelim fight contains a Mexican fighter. Hmm... And Rosas from Mexico as an event opener. Why not instead take a shot of Jose Cuervo in front of Sphere, and congratulate everyone with that day?

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