Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby!

[Marvell2]

Seems a few of these Antminer E3 are showing up on eBay already. There are even many people bidding on them.

One of them is at $188 USD currently and claims to be able to mine "ETH/ETC" which seems like false advertising since they can't mine ETC anymore. The seller stated also "No returns or exchanges"

Another is at $1500 USD and claims to be new in the box. Anyone remember the retail price for these? Wasn't it like $800 USD when they were new? Pretty sure it will never sell.

Last one is at $278 USD and will probably go even higher as there are still over 1.5 days of auction left.

So assuming 30 days of mining left for ETH, it would make a profit of $100 assuming free electricity. With 10 cent power profit would be able half of that, $50.

The problem with eBay is that its more than likely that the buyers will just make a claim and send it back when they find out that it won't mine ETH anymore. This similar situation happened back in 2016 with the BTC halving.

i just had this asshole claim back 3x rx 480s he bought from me saying fans don’t work and these are ref models

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[Branko]

Simply could not resist when I saw post subject...older PC users will know 

(back in a day it costed tons of money, maybe even the most expensive card of its time)

[CjMapope]

Seems a few of these Antminer E3 are showing up on eBay already. There are even many people bidding on them.

One of them is at $188 USD currently and claims to be able to mine "ETH/ETC" which seems like false advertising since they can't mine ETC anymore. The seller stated also "No returns or exchanges"

Another is at $1500 USD and claims to be new in the box. Anyone remember the retail price for these? Wasn't it like $800 USD when they were new? Pretty sure it will never sell.

Last one is at $278 USD and will probably go even higher as there are still over 1.5 days of auction left.

So assuming 30 days of mining left for ETH, it would make a profit of $100 assuming free electricity. With 10 cent power profit would be able half of that, $50.

The problem with eBay is that its more than likely that the buyers will just make a claim and send it back when they find out that it won't mine ETH anymore. This similar situation happened back in 2016 with the BTC halving.

i just had this asshole claim back 3x rx 480s he bought from me saying fans don’t work and these are ref models

Ebay is the worst, we have been telling people for years to not sell GPUs there (miners at all really) for these type reasons
i had a dude tell me one of my 1080ti's was "burnt and nonworking" and send it back, weeks of headache, cost me like 60$ out of pocket in the end
and i still have the card, almost 3 years later, running perfectly (as it was when i sold it to him)
ebay is full of assholes str8 up
edit: i just remembered too: when the guy sent BACK my card, it had NO static sleeve on it anymore,he wrapped it IN a KITCHEN HAND-DRYING TOWEL instead and sent it back like that, i was amazed it never got damaged :O  just lol

[P00P135]

Ethereum community lead says “ProgPoW is dead”

https://twitter.com/hudsonjameson/status/1234598578099806209

[citronick]

Phil..... when everything is in the red.... your DOGE rocks!

Elon Musk must so bored to twit this pushing DOGE

[badbart]

Ethereum community lead says “ProgPoW is dead”

https://twitter.com/hudsonjameson/status/1234598578099806209

Aren't all of the eth ASICs going ti stop working soon?  Might get a nice bump in profit anyway.

[adaseb]

Ethereum community lead says “ProgPoW is dead”

https://twitter.com/hudsonjameson/status/1234598578099806209

Aren't all of the eth ASICs going ti stop working soon?  Might get a nice bump in profit anyway.

As far as I know there are only 2 ETH ASICs out there. One is by Bitmain called the Antminer E3 which has only 4GB of memory and the other one is called the Innosilicon A10 which hashes at 500MH/s and from my research it doesn't state how much memory that ASIC has. Couldn't find any disassembly videos or anything.

Going on the official website the min order quantity is like 50 and price is $2800 each so need around $140,000 to be able to get one of their miners. Most likely no retail end users are using those miners mostly just farms.

However since the miner is newer I am assuming they included more than 4GB of memory because it wouldn't make sense to release it with any less.

[philipma1957]

Phil..... when everything is in the red.... your DOGE rocks!

Elon Musk must so bored to twit this pushing DOGE

I am closer to 1,000,000 of them.

I have 710,000

[philipma1957]

I am selling a new sealed evga 1600 p2  psu the listing is here.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227369.msg53880231#msg53880231


Rather ship to usa

[arielbit]

I am selling a new sealed evga 1600 p2  psu the listing is here.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227369.msg53880231#msg53880231


Rather ship to usa

for me i'm HODLing my gears, anyone here is thinking that NCOV19 might disrupt computer parts supply and make them all expensive in the near future?

[philipma1957]

I am selling a new sealed evga 1600 p2  psu the listing is here.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227369.msg53880231#msg53880231


Rather ship to usa

for me i'm HODLing my gears, anyone here is thinking that NCOV19 might disrupt computer parts supply and make them all expensive in the near future?

i only am selling this as it is sealed.

i have multiple spare corsair 1500 watts  psus they are already opened.

i figured why not give someone a good deal on a new sealed unit.
it was sitting on a shelf not opened.

[rdluffy]

I am selling a new sealed evga 1600 p2  psu the listing is here.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227369.msg53880231#msg53880231


Rather ship to usa

for me i'm HODLing my gears, anyone here is thinking that NCOV19 might disrupt computer parts supply and make them all expensive in the near future?

I'm sure that Coronavirus will affect hardware parts for all over the world
Here in Brazil we are already suffering because USD is rising and our local currency is worthing less in relation of USD, and within a few weeks we're going to have serious problems

I watched a live on youtube of the person who are responsible to do the RMA of Galax here in Brazil, and they are having a lot of problems because GPUs are not arriving here and there's already a lack of products to RMA and very soon new products will not arrive

[jasta more]

I am selling a new sealed evga 1600 p2  psu the listing is here.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227369.msg53880231#msg53880231


Rather ship to usa

for me i'm HODLing my gears, anyone here is thinking that NCOV19 might disrupt computer parts supply and make them all expensive in the near future?

if virust disrupt pc part supply we will have bigger problems on our head because it wont affect just one part of industry

[adaseb]

Anyone catch the ETH dev call today? If so can you summarize the conclusion because I still don't understand whether ProgPOW is a go or not. Seems that people were for and against it and now I don't know where we stand.

Either way. Apparently the Antminer E3 accounts for around 40% of the total ETH hashrate. There was a nonce fingerprinting done similar to what was done with XMR old algo and it turns out that 40% is from the certain ASIC. It was released by BitsbeTrippin and you can find it on their twitter. So in about a month or so around 40% of the hashrate is going to disappear.

[judypug1956]

Anyone catch the ETH dev call today? If so can you summarize the conclusion because I still don't understand whether ProgPOW is a go or not. Seems that people were for and against it and now I don't know where we stand.

Either way. Apparently the Antminer E3 accounts for around 40% of the total ETH hashrate. There was a nonce fingerprinting done similar to what was done with XMR old algo and it turns out that 40% is from the certain ASIC. It was released by BitsbeTrippin and you can find it on their twitter. So in about a month or so around 40% of the hashrate is going to disappear.

 

This is why I never trusted ETH  most likely they won't go to ProgPOW they really don't care about miners much.

At least we will get a boost when the asics die off.  I do think those machines could be tweaked to have more ram.

I wonder if someone (Bitmain) has a lot of higher memory machines in hand mining in the background.

They reach out to ETH dev and poof no algo switch.

This would mean that 40% hashrate drop will be 30%  as bitmain had 1 in 4 machine on the network and they have jack up memory.

Which is why they made sure to build the units with ddr2 not ddr3 ram. The 3 of 4 units out in the wild won't find much ddr2 to upgrade with.

[arielbit]

Anyone catch the ETH dev call today? If so can you summarize the conclusion because I still don't understand whether ProgPOW is a go or not. Seems that people were for and against it and now I don't know where we stand.

Either way. Apparently the Antminer E3 accounts for around 40% of the total ETH hashrate. There was a nonce fingerprinting done similar to what was done with XMR old algo and it turns out that 40% is from the certain ASIC. It was released by BitsbeTrippin and you can find it on their twitter. So in about a month or so around 40% of the hashrate is going to disappear.

 

This is why I never trusted ETH  most likely they won't go to ProgPOW they really don't care about miners much.

At least we will get a boost when the asics die off.  I do think those machines could be tweaked to have more ram.

I wonder if someone (Bitmain) has a lot of higher memory machines in hand mining in the background.

They reach out to ETH dev and poof no algo switch.

This would mean that 40% hashrate drop will be 30%  as bitmain had 1 in 4 machine on the network and they have jack up memory.

Which is why they made sure to build the units with ddr2 not ddr3 ram. The 3 of 4 units out in the wild won't find much ddr2 to upgrade with.

and here I am, reading this, and mining with GPU rigs with ddr2 rams LOL

[adaseb]

Anyone catch the ETH dev call today? If so can you summarize the conclusion because I still don't understand whether ProgPOW is a go or not. Seems that people were for and against it and now I don't know where we stand.

Either way. Apparently the Antminer E3 accounts for around 40% of the total ETH hashrate. There was a nonce fingerprinting done similar to what was done with XMR old algo and it turns out that 40% is from the certain ASIC. It was released by BitsbeTrippin and you can find it on their twitter. So in about a month or so around 40% of the hashrate is going to disappear.

 

This is why I never trusted ETH  most likely they won't go to ProgPOW they really don't care about miners much.

At least we will get a boost when the asics die off.  I do think those machines could be tweaked to have more ram.

I wonder if someone (Bitmain) has a lot of higher memory machines in hand mining in the background.

They reach out to ETH dev and poof no algo switch.

This would mean that 40% hashrate drop will be 30%  as bitmain had 1 in 4 machine on the network and they have jack up memory.

Which is why they made sure to build the units with ddr2 not ddr3 ram. The 3 of 4 units out in the wild won't find much ddr2 to upgrade with.

From the disassembly videos that I saw posted on Youtube, the ram seems to be soldered into the hash board. This is the video I am looking at,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew6mL5BjpdI

Also I made a mistake earlier, according to the video the RAM chips are actually DDR3 and not DDR2. Looks like they just bought the actual memory chips and not the actual memory module that most computer use. So I don't think its possible to add more memory. It would take forever to desolder every single ram chip and replace with a higher capacity. Also it would need to be reprogramed, most likely won't be plug and play.

[JaredKaragen]

Anyone catch the ETH dev call today? If so can you summarize the conclusion because I still don't understand whether ProgPOW is a go or not. Seems that people were for and against it and now I don't know where we stand.

Either way. Apparently the Antminer E3 accounts for around 40% of the total ETH hashrate. There was a nonce fingerprinting done similar to what was done with XMR old algo and it turns out that 40% is from the certain ASIC. It was released by BitsbeTrippin and you can find it on their twitter. So in about a month or so around 40% of the hashrate is going to disappear.

 

This is why I never trusted ETH  most likely they won't go to ProgPOW they really don't care about miners much.

At least we will get a boost when the asics die off.  I do think those machines could be tweaked to have more ram.

I wonder if someone (Bitmain) has a lot of higher memory machines in hand mining in the background.

They reach out to ETH dev and poof no algo switch.

This would mean that 40% hashrate drop will be 30%  as bitmain had 1 in 4 machine on the network and they have jack up memory.

Which is why they made sure to build the units with ddr2 not ddr3 ram. The 3 of 4 units out in the wild won't find much ddr2 to upgrade with.

From the disassembly videos that I saw posted on Youtube, the ram seems to be soldered into the hash board. This is the video I am looking at,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew6mL5BjpdI

Also I made a mistake earlier, according to the video the RAM chips are actually DDR3 and not DDR2. Looks like they just bought the actual memory chips and not the actual memory module that most computer use. So I don't think its possible to add more memory. It would take forever to desolder every single ram chip and replace with a higher capacity. Also it would need to be reprogramed, most likely won't be plug and play.

you could swap the chips and update the SPD to change the ram amounts..... that is if the memory controller can handle the larger amount. >)

[adaseb]

Anyone catch the ETH dev call today? If so can you summarize the conclusion because I still don't understand whether ProgPOW is a go or not. Seems that people were for and against it and now I don't know where we stand.

Either way. Apparently the Antminer E3 accounts for around 40% of the total ETH hashrate. There was a nonce fingerprinting done similar to what was done with XMR old algo and it turns out that 40% is from the certain ASIC. It was released by BitsbeTrippin and you can find it on their twitter. So in about a month or so around 40% of the hashrate is going to disappear.

 

This is why I never trusted ETH  most likely they won't go to ProgPOW they really don't care about miners much.

At least we will get a boost when the asics die off.  I do think those machines could be tweaked to have more ram.

I wonder if someone (Bitmain) has a lot of higher memory machines in hand mining in the background.

They reach out to ETH dev and poof no algo switch.

This would mean that 40% hashrate drop will be 30%  as bitmain had 1 in 4 machine on the network and they have jack up memory.

Which is why they made sure to build the units with ddr2 not ddr3 ram. The 3 of 4 units out in the wild won't find much ddr2 to upgrade with.

From the disassembly videos that I saw posted on Youtube, the ram seems to be soldered into the hash board. This is the video I am looking at,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew6mL5BjpdI

Also I made a mistake earlier, according to the video the RAM chips are actually DDR3 and not DDR2. Looks like they just bought the actual memory chips and not the actual memory module that most computer use. So I don't think its possible to add more memory. It would take forever to desolder every single ram chip and replace with a higher capacity. Also it would need to be reprogramed, most likely won't be plug and play.

you could swap the chips and update the SPD to change the ram amounts..... that is if the memory controller can handle the larger amount. >)

Yes its possible to swap the chips but have you ever done some surface mount desolering and soldering? I did it a few times when fixing an iPhone and it was a pain in the ass. You need to apply the right amount of heat, if you apply too little heat you risk ripping out a solder joint on the PCB, you apply too much heat you can damage neighbouring parts.

Also look at the amount of memory chips on the ASIC, it would take probably days to get it done. And after you swap the chips you have no gaurantee that it will be plug and play. You might have to play with the memory controller and then with the firmware. I don't think anyone will be swapping the chips.

[philipma1957]

Anyone catch the ETH dev call today? If so can you summarize the conclusion because I still don't understand whether ProgPOW is a go or not. Seems that people were for and against it and now I don't know where we stand.

Either way. Apparently the Antminer E3 accounts for around 40% of the total ETH hashrate. There was a nonce fingerprinting done similar to what was done with XMR old algo and it turns out that 40% is from the certain ASIC. It was released by BitsbeTrippin and you can find it on their twitter. So in about a month or so around 40% of the hashrate is going to disappear.

 

This is why I never trusted ETH  most likely they won't go to ProgPOW they really don't care about miners much.

At least we will get a boost when the asics die off.  I do think those machines could be tweaked to have more ram.

I wonder if someone (Bitmain) has a lot of higher memory machines in hand mining in the background.

They reach out to ETH dev and poof no algo switch.

This would mean that 40% hashrate drop will be 30%  as bitmain had 1 in 4 machine on the network and they have jack up memory.

Which is why they made sure to build the units with ddr2 not ddr3 ram. The 3 of 4 units out in the wild won't find much ddr2 to upgrade with.

From the disassembly videos that I saw posted on Youtube, the ram seems to be soldered into the hash board. This is the video I am looking at,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew6mL5BjpdI

Also I made a mistake earlier, according to the video the RAM chips are actually DDR3 and not DDR2. Looks like they just bought the actual memory chips and not the actual memory module that most computer use. So I don't think its possible to add more memory. It would take forever to desolder every single ram chip and replace with a higher capacity. Also it would need to be reprogramed, most likely won't be plug and play.

you could swap the chips and update the SPD to change the ram amounts..... that is if the memory controller can handle the larger amount. >)

Yes its possible to swap the chips but have you ever done some surface mount desolering and soldering? I did it a few times when fixing an iPhone and it was a pain in the ass. You need to apply the right amount of heat, if you apply too little heat you risk ripping out a solder joint on the PCB, you apply too much heat you can damage neighbouring parts.

Also look at the amount of memory chips on the ASIC, it would take probably days to get it done. And after you swap the chips you have no gaurantee that it will be plug and play. You might have to play with the memory controller and then with the firmware. I don't think anyone will be swapping the chips.

Other then the ones built for bitmain by bitmain  which likely do exist  and would have been built with 2x the ram.

So if there are 30,000 doa machines   bitmain may have 10,000 that will work and are working right now..

Proof of this will be if the switch to progpow never happens.