Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby!

[waggy459]

Try powerstage 3 or 4 and see if it hits your set number.

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[citronick]

from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts

[waggy459]

from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts

Software still reporting a total of ~664?

Yeah, the 5700xt is basically a double card, lol.  Now that I've learned a bit with the dozen Polaris cards I have, I have an appetite for more efficiency going forward.

[citronick]

from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts

--- snip ---

Software still reporting a total of ~664?

Yeah, the 5700xt is basically a double card, lol.  Now that I've learned a bit with the dozen Polaris cards I have, I have an appetite for more efficiency going forward.

SMOS still reports the same 664w

the mobo, ram, cpu etc takes about 142w

I can only conclude that the 80ish watts is not correct, since it totals only 408w.

it should be 664w div 5 = avg aropund 130ish per GPU, which aint that great for only 28mhs

I will keep these 470s,480s aside and offline for now (i have total 240 + 60 of them)

All my 1080tis, 1070tis, Vegas are mining ETH for a while now

A few 1060 and P106-100 rigs are also just up and running.

When ETH goes parabolic, I will squeeze the melons out of the 470,480s - at that time electricty wont be hard to justify.  

[deadsix]

I will keep these 470s,480s aside and offline for now (i have total 240 + 60 of them)

Oi, whadayamean keep them aside smh. Loan em to me in the meantime

[soothaa]

When ETH goes parabolic, I will squeeze the melons out of the 470,480s - at that time electricty wont be hard to justify.  

Why not have them running now and have the extra ETH if you're so sure? I mean it's only the difference of a little USD.. (that's what I'm doing)

[waggy459]

When ETH goes parabolic, I will squeeze the melons out of the 470,480s - at that time electricty wont be hard to justify.  

I'm not here to argue about what your justification should or shouldn't be.  Just talking through my own thoughts and how I may justify differently.

I have two rigs running a total of around 390mh/s and let's say roughly 1.65kw.  As such, I pay around $6 a day to run this @$.15US per kwh.

Notwithstanding hardware cost, which obviously is a concern, but on a power basis I would need to clear out that $6 a day in ETH or more basically at today's price.  If I don't, it would be more cost effective to just buy the ETH directly.  I should also add that it would be $6/day + one's tax bracket, but I digress...

$6/390=0.015 USD per day per MH.

You can pop over to https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/ethereum-mining_profitability.html#6m to view just this metric.  Currently it's like around 0.03, and it has indeed been above that threshold for a bit of time, at times substantially.  **The rewards does not always follow when ETH or whatever coin is hot, just whether the network is paying at a given moment.  Recently the reward was 2x what it is today, but ETH price wasn't 2x, it was maybe 10% higher than it is now.  

YMMV, but point of discussion, hope you don't mind.  

Also, if I'm understanding right you have like an order of magnitude or two more hash rate than I do, so different metric prevails.

[DinosaurBit]

Enjoy reading that thread almost daily... It's now being a part of my morning routine. Give my baby girl a bottle and while I stream some Youtube cartoons for her, I read this. Pretty much like rig porn literature, right? 

I tried to go back to thread one, but pardon my ignorance, aside generally covering profitable/worthwhile mining setups, is that also a journal of the evolution of OP GPU farm?

Btw OP, I bought an SP20 from you back in 2017... Sadly, it's still sitting on my shelf, covered with dust. Never had the occasion to power it as my first attempt to building an ASIC farm ended up with that Quadrigacx mess. I was lucky enough not to lose too much money, but my partners at that time lost around 2 BTC... A fortune from my small miner perspective. Anyway, enough of background and introduction.

I recently got back to GPU mining back around May. You guys might think I'm masochist, but I'm currently running 2 rigs for a total of 12 P106-090 3GB that I got real cheap from Alibaba. They're useless for anything other than Raven and Nimiq, and I probably won't be able to mine RVN for too long neither as the DAG size is also increasing there. But I'm lucky enough to pay $0.045 per kWh, so this is still profitable, racking around $100 to $120 monthly so far. Really small setup, but based on what I can read here, I'd better stack that money and buy some 5700 XT moving forward, then slowly grow from there. Basic setup (MOBO, CPU, Risers, 6pins cables, PSUs, breakout boards and RAM) is literally killing me anyway, as it's almost as expensive as GPUs in my case.

I have a barn in the backyard I'd like to fill with them. I'll max out my panel in no time, but we'll see how it goes.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge guys.

Cheers!

[mmaenpaa]

from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts

https://i.imgur.com/2OIFQS0.png

I have 5 x RX580 8GB, total at the wall around 610W (230V power). 28.XXmhs / GPU.

Not saying that this a great result, just hopefully a helpful data point for somebody.

I did try to go up to 30mhs, but lost stability (and patience).
I am mining mostly to stay current with this crazy virtual coin thingy and it is fun too :-)

https://i.imgur.com/IIbV0d6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lj3Czz6.jpg

RIG:
W10 Pro + Nicehash running Phoenix
ASROCK H110 PRO BTC+
i3-6100 & stock fan
5 x RX580 (Powercolor Red Dragon/2 x Sapphire Pulse/2 x Sapphire Pulse BE)
8GB RAM
120GB SSD M.2
PSU1 750W (80+)
PSU2 550W (80+)

Phoenix launch parameters (I found these here in Phoenix miner thread)
-mt 1 -gt 64 -rmode 1 -cvddc 820 -mvddc 825 -cclock 1050 -mclock 2075

[citronick]

I will keep these 470s,480s aside and offline for now (i have total 240 + 60 of them)

Oi, whadayamean keep them aside smh. Loan em to me in the meantime

LOL.... I am dusting them currently and should have enough parts to build around 35 rigs.... dismantling the farm took almost 2 weeks.

@soothaa ..... I doubt I have enough power in my current farm to get 40 plus rigs, since I gave up 50% of my farm space.

[soothaa]

@soothaa ..... I doubt I have enough power in my current farm to get 40 plus rigs, since I gave up 50% of my farm space.

Aha that makes sense. Yeah I'll be cutting any RX570's/Vegas as I increase my 5700XT stack. Up to.. 20 I think. They're amazing cards.

I would have gone whole hog and bought 50-100, but I'm under contract for another rental building atm and can't be running a card up without getting an earful from my bank!  

[GabryRox]

@soothaa ..... I doubt I have enough power in my current farm to get 40 plus rigs, since I gave up 50% of my farm space.

Aha that makes sense. Yeah I'll be cutting any RX570's/Vegas as I increase my 5700XT stack. Up to.. 20 I think. They're amazing cards.

I would have gone whole hog and bought 50-100, but I'm under contract for another rental building atm and can't be running a card up without getting an earful from my bank!  

I'm in a similar boat, although with 470's not 570's lol.  So far i just received 2 5700's and 1 5700XT and constantly hunting more if i can find decent deals.  You specifically mention the XT's... do you see a noticeable difference between them and the non-XT 5700s?  I have read many places there is not much difference mining wise but looking to confirm that.  My current mindset is buying 5700's if i can find them under $350 and the XT's around $375.  Obviously, the XT's will probably fetch a bit more for eventual re-selling, but other than that, are there any notable upsides for mining that would warrant that price premium?

[fr4nkthetank]

I like my 470s.  Dont remember how much from the wall though.
I think its 0.85v/1150/2050, sapphires.  edit: 8gbs

[philipma1957]

@soothaa ..... I doubt I have enough power in my current farm to get 40 plus rigs, since I gave up 50% of my farm space.

Aha that makes sense. Yeah I'll be cutting any RX570's/Vegas as I increase my 5700XT stack. Up to.. 20 I think. They're amazing cards.

I would have gone whole hog and bought 50-100, but I'm under contract for another rental building atm and can't be running a card up without getting an earful from my bank!  

I'm in a similar boat, although with 470's not 570's lol.  So far i just received 2 5700's and 1 5700XT and constantly hunting more if i can find decent deals.  You specifically mention the XT's... do you see a noticeable difference between them and the non-XT 5700s?  I have read many places there is not much difference mining wise but looking to confirm that.  My current mindset is buying 5700's if i can find them under $350 and the XT's around $375.  Obviously, the XT's will probably fetch a bit more for eventual re-selling, but other than that, are there any notable upsides for mining that would warrant that price premium?

my 5700s are good and my 5700 xts are good.

price matters if i can find 5700s at 325 i get them.

I did get some 5600s for 244each they were  worth it.

I got some 5500s at 191 each not so sure they are worth buying.

but. I have six xmr rigs so using 1 card on them kind of works.

[adaseb]

from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts

--- snip ---

Software still reporting a total of ~664?

Yeah, the 5700xt is basically a double card, lol.  Now that I've learned a bit with the dozen Polaris cards I have, I have an appetite for more efficiency going forward.

SMOS still reports the same 664w

the mobo, ram, cpu etc takes about 142w

I can only conclude that the 80ish watts is not correct, since it totals only 408w.

it should be 664w div 5 = avg aropund 130ish per GPU, which aint that great for only 28mhs

I will keep these 470s,480s aside and offline for now (i have total 240 + 60 of them)

All my 1080tis, 1070tis, Vegas are mining ETH for a while now

A few 1060 and P106-100 rigs are also just up and running.

When ETH goes parabolic, I will squeeze the melons out of the 470,480s - at that time electricty wont be hard to justify.  

What kind of motherboard and CPU is this? It should take 40 watts or so not 140. If you got some old Quad-core intel CPU then I guess it makes sense. However for most low power celeron processors it seems high.

With 5 GPUs of Polaris GPUs your consumption should be ~650 Watts or so. 800 Watts seems high, most likely due to your CPU+Mobo. Are you sure they are all undervolted to 900mV at least?

[philipma1957]

from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts

--- snip ---

Software still reporting a total of ~664?

Yeah, the 5700xt is basically a double card, lol.  Now that I've learned a bit with the dozen Polaris cards I have, I have an appetite for more efficiency going forward.

SMOS still reports the same 664w

the mobo, ram, cpu etc takes about 142w

I can only conclude that the 80ish watts is not correct, since it totals only 408w.

it should be 664w div 5 = avg aropund 130ish per GPU, which aint that great for only 28mhs

I will keep these 470s,480s aside and offline for now (i have total 240 + 60 of them)

All my 1080tis, 1070tis, Vegas are mining ETH for a while now

A few 1060 and P106-100 rigs are also just up and running.

When ETH goes parabolic, I will squeeze the melons out of the 470,480s - at that time electricty wont be hard to justify.  

What kind of motherboard and CPU is this? It should take 40 watts or so not 140. If you got some old Quad-core intel CPU then I guess it makes sense. However for most low power celeron processors it seems high.

With 5 GPUs of Polaris GPUs your consumption should be ~650 Watts or so. 800 Watts seems high, most likely due to your CPU+Mobo. Are you sure they are all undervolted to 900mV at least?

he may have a bronze psu vs a plat

 82% makes 664 turn into, 809 watts

92% makes 664 turn into, 721 watts.

also a hot meter can read 20-40watts higher.



at dinosaurbit.  thread 1 of  the 9 was the expansion from 1 card to 20 some odd cards.

[citronick]

@waggy459 @DinosaurBit @mmaenpaa -- thanks for sharing, at Phil's thread we are all here to share and learn from each other. Thanks to members here I sailed through my mining days since 2015 with flying colors. I started with only R9-390 rig and after 6 exactly same rigs..... I stumbled into a guy called Phil and his thread 

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Did some finetuning and I am convinced that SMOS seems not able to set the correct OC clocks...

K35 8xPCI Riserless motherboard
Cheapo Celeron Duo
4GB RAM
No storage
SMOS USB stick
Delta 2400w Platinum PSU (94%)



I forget if these 480s are modded.



Looking at SMOS, the BIOS seems legit and have not been modded.



I have set 825 core memory but I noticed that SMOS dashboard reports 975 - so something is not correct here.

I will do somemore experiment today.

Btw, my Shenzen supplier said that 5700XT (no brand) are available in bulk at 200 pieces per batch at 396 USD - price may have changed since the datestamp on message was 3rd August

[DinosaurBit]

Might sound like a basic question but how are you guys building your rigs with that many GPUs?

What I've done so far is I built my racks using cheap framing lumber... I just make sure MOBO has some spacing with wood using plastic pieces.

No way I'll invest in an aluminium frame at $100... I prefer to keep that money for GPUs.

Here are those masterpieces (there are actually two racks there... I just built them so they could be stacked):



I've seen those shelves being used a lot: https://www.amazon.com/Seville-Classics-UltraZinc-Shelving-Wheels/dp/B07CJVL5BK

... could have 6 rigs on one shelf. I'm wondering how I could "hang" GPUs on them though. What kind of frame/rack do you suggest?

[adaseb]

Might sound like a basic question but how are you guys building your rigs with that many GPUs?

What I've done so far is I built my racks using cheap framing lumber... I just make sure MOBO has some spacing with wood using plastic pieces.

No way I'll invest in an aluminium frame at $100... I prefer to keep that money for GPUs.

Here are those masterpieces (there are actually two racks there... I just built them so they could be stacked):



I've seen those shelves being used a lot: https://www.amazon.com/Seville-Classics-UltraZinc-Shelving-Wheels/dp/B07CJVL5BK

... could have 6 rigs on one shelf. I'm wondering how I could "hang" GPUs on them though. What kind of frame/rack do you suggest?

I did the exact same as you, basically took a pen tube and cut it in small pieces and used those as the "spacing" between the wood and motherboard. Don't let the motherboard sit directly on the wood because there is a hot spot in one area, I think its the South or North gate of the motherboard and can get hot, might start a fire.

I also was going to use aluminum but they were too expensive, so I got some steel ones however they were crazy heavy and just stuck with wood instead. Had open air wood rigs for years and never any issues.

[citronick]

When i first started my 1st rig, got a nice rack blah blah.... when I decided to go full steam ahead in 2016, speed to deploy was the essence and built the miners around the full height rack itself, with GPUs hanging via metal S hooks.... then when space and GPU density came into play.... I got rid of risers all together and standardized on riserless motherboards like the K35 mostly and a few Oanda, Colorful motherboard variants. You can find the pictures of my open air rigs in one of Phil's thread. One more thing.... the biggest game changer for me was using SMOS and ditching Windows all together... that saved me tons of hours in rig building and babysitting sick rigs on Windoze

Might sound like a basic question but how are you guys building your rigs with that many GPUs?

What I've done so far is I built my racks using cheap framing lumber... I just make sure MOBO has some spacing with wood using plastic pieces.

No way I'll invest in an aluminium frame at $100... I prefer to keep that money for GPUs.

Here are those masterpieces (there are actually two racks there... I just built them so they could be stacked):

...snip...

I've seen those shelves being used a lot: https://www.amazon.com/Seville-Classics-UltraZinc-Shelving-Wheels/dp/B07CJVL5BK

... could have 6 rigs on one shelf. I'm wondering how I could "hang" GPUs on them though. What kind of frame/rack do you suggest?