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February 13, 2020, 04:12:53 PM
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Again, you are relying on Craig's version of events, and I am relying on the judge's words that Craig acted in bad faith throughout the entirety of the proceedings. Surely Craig would have known the documents he was submitting to the court were forged and warned the court ahead of time. So why didn't he?

You are relying on the judge's words who goes to the same synagogue as the plaintiff? Have a cup of common sense.



As for why Craig acted as he did. I can only speculate that the clock was ticking for his advantage. Bending some rules here and there doesn't matter if you know you will win the case.

If it were being held in Estonia, you might be right. I wouldn't call initially being on the hook for half a million bitcoin "winning", but you know, tomato/tomato.

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February 13, 2020, 04:18:34 PM
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In a situation where there is my word against your word, the background is all that matters. As for the proof, I already have it the way I like it the most --- in the form of empirical evidence. If you want to have it go get it.

Oh yes, internet bragging, let's try it.

I have 20+ years of software development experience and last time I was working 9-5 I was herding software architects who would design a spaceship when the customer asked for a toaster, does that make me smarter than you? More capable of identifying frauds like CSW?

Or perhaps we should just stick to perjury and inability to sign a message and other obvious signs of him being a fraud.

Another gem, proving what level of maturity we are really having here:

If you don't like the self-moderated thread - don't post there. Complaining about it here is off topic.


If you're so smart then why aren't you rich yet? I bought into BitCoin when it was trading at 4$ each. Got discouraged by tons of Bitcoin-deniers back then just like I am discouraged by Craig-deniers right here. Turned out pretty well for me in 2012. Wouldn't have to work a day in my life, but I will, because I love my job so much (developing video games).

It's laughable what stunts some of you guys are willing to make just to keep denying the possibility that Craig might actually be Satoshi. You are ignoring someone, who invested in BitCoin in 2012, became rich thanks to that, has master's degree in software engineering and 15 years of field practice as a software architect. Not only that, I have provably predicted 2 BitCoin bubbles in the past in this very same forum (the threads are still here) and I was first to start encoding images on the BitCoin's block chain with https://cryptograffiti.info/ which I single-handedly developed in the beginning of 2014.

It's incredible that you are willing to ignore and reject all that just so you could keep on believing the popular lies about Craig. Simply incredible. In the world of reasonable people, my personal achievements in life alone are enough for someone to take my words seriously. I know this, because I have turned MANY people from Craig-deniers into Craig-belivers in person. It's because during in-person conversations it's much harder to ignore the other person's credibility in the field of discussion. And I know for fact, that I have credibility, so don't try to pretend my personal achievements are nothing. We all know, that in the real world, all of this matters. You can talk whatever you want, but if you don't have achievements backing up your words then you are a big zero. But here, we apparently don't have many reasonable people and thus we see manufactured conversations, in which the real purpose is to brainwash unsuspecting fools into believing the lies and not to figure out what the truth is.

The good news is, Craig will prove in multiple courts this year with real evidence (not digital signatures which are not even real signatures in terms of law) that he created BitCoin, and when that happens, I expect some of you here to PM me an apology.

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February 13, 2020, 04:24:25 PM
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 Bending some rules here and there doesn't matter if you know you will win the case.



If you say something like this , and you call all the forged documents and lies he said under oath "bending some rules".   Then it's no wonder why you support the man.  

P.S. -   My advice is to stop spreading everywhere your academic achievements , cause after you're saying something completely retarded like you just did ,  and people will assume your lieying about that aswell.
 
But at least you convinced me of something right now , and that is that all you BSV shillers , are completely in a different bubble , where you don't listen to common sense , where you simply troll and spam all this nonsense.    You basically ignore all evidence , and write it off as irrelevant. Simply put you're just a cult of brain washed puppets .   Even if the real Satoshi will pop back one day , you trolls will continue worshipping the shit that C.W. spreads around.


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February 13, 2020, 04:51:35 PM
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Again, you are relying on Craig's version of events, and I am relying on the judge's words that Craig acted in bad faith throughout the entirety of the proceedings. Surely Craig would have known the documents he was submitting to the court were forged and warned the court ahead of time. So why didn't he?

You are relying on the judge's words who goes to the same synagogue as the plaintiff? Have a cup of common sense.

As for why Craig acted as he did. I can only speculate that the clock was ticking for his advantage. Bending some rules here and there doesn't matter if you know you will win the case.

Remind me, where exactly did I promise proof? All I've ever stated is that I have empirical evidence, more than enough. So stop making stuff up on my behalf.

I have more than enough empirical evidence that he's a fraud and not Satoshi.

That's actually fine by me. I didn't come here to change your mind. I just came here to prepare salt for your wounds.

Your signature is very misleading. Bitcoin SV is a fork of Bitcoin Cash, which is exactly why the latest Bitcoin SV downgrade causes nodes to connect to Bitcoin Cash nodes. Being delusional is fine but please don't try to lure people into buying an altcoin, just like Calvin and Craig are doing.
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February 13, 2020, 05:01:26 PM
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CSW willfully created the fraudulent documents.. That's what I can see.

So, he lied. Intentionally. That's not a person I can trust. Neither should you or anyone else.

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February 13, 2020, 07:02:20 PM
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CSW willfully created the fraudulent documents.. That's what I can see.

So, he lied. Intentionally. That's not a person I can trust. Neither should you or anyone else.

U wish he did

(What sense would make all that...)

U cannot proof anything

Neither verify. Don't trust ur filled bags of btcs

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CSW willfully created the fraudulent documents.. That's what I can see.

So, he lied. Intentionally. That's not a person I can trust. Neither should you or anyone else.

U wish he did

(What sense would make all that...)

U cannot proof anything

Neither verify. Don't trust ur filled bags of btcs

Matthew Edman, one of the expert witnesses in the Kleiman vs Wright case, disagrees.

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Edman has a background of assisting law enforcement like the FBI in various criminal and national security investigations, including the Silk Road case.

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First, Edman describes the forged Tulip Trust email that purports to have been sent from Dave Kleiman to Craig Wright in 2011. The original evidence was a scan of a printout, but Wright also provided the original PDF to the plaintiffs as part of discovery. There was also another version of the PDF provided, one where the visible timestamp says 2014. (Note that the linked PDFs are from the court ledger, and have had the relevant metadata stripped out.)

The metadata extracted from the 2014 email PDF contains plenty of information:
The XMP metadata was written by a library compiled on August 23, 2012.
The PDF was created using Acrobat PDF Maker 11 for Microsoft Outlook.
This software helpfully embeds a lot of the email metadata into the PDF.
The email was received on October 17, 2014, at 12:04:57 PM in the UTC+10 time zone (eastern Australia).
The MailFrom field indicates the email was sent by craig@panopticrypt.com (not Dave Kleiman).
The MailTo field shows the same craig@panopticrypt.com as the recipient of the email (i.e. Wright sent the email to himself).
The email headers, embedded in the MailTransportHeader field, contain numerous other indications that Craig Wright was the real sender:
There's a valid DKIM signature for panopticrypt.com, timestamped October 17, 2014.
The first machine in the Received chain to have processed the email as it was being sent was named "PCCSW01" (Craig Steven Wright's PC?) and listed craig@panopricrypt.com as an authenticated sender.
The IP of this machine, 14.1.18.30, is registered in geo-ip databases as being associated with eastern Australia.
The email headers contain contradictory information for when the email was sent:
The Date header (controlled by the sender) claims the email was sent on June 24, 2011.
The X-Mailer header says the sending email client was Microsoft Outlook 15.0. This is Outlook 2013, released in early 2013.
The email attachment was a Tulip Trust PDF that appears to visually match the pages seen in the original scanned printout.
Edman points out that the date inconsistency can be explained if the sender simply changed their computer clock before sending the email, whereas the other headers are added by the servers routing the email, so they will typically record the true date.

Next Edman compares the above to the metadata extracted from the "2011" email PDF, and finds that:
The two PDFs have the same DocumentID, strongly indicating that one is an edited version of the other.
The 2011 email has an embedded modification date of October 22, 2014.
The MailFrom field in this metadata now says dave@davekleiman.com instead of craig@panopticrypt.com.
The email headers had been truncated, leaving only a small portion.
The remaining portion of the email headers matches up against the beginning of the headers of the 2014 email PDF, except a timestamp that used to say "Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:05:55 -0500" now says "Thu, 24 Jun 2011 20:04:55 -0500". However, June 24, 2011 was a Friday.
There is no way for a computer to make this kind of mistake, so this was hand-edited. Incompetently.
For the lulz, the plaintiffs submit a plain calendar into evidence.
The truncated email headers still include a Return-Path of craig@panopticrypt.com.
The Microsoft SMTP Server that processed the email came out in November 2013.
Clearly, the second "2011" email PDF is a further modified version of the "2014" PDF, trying to make it further look like an email that was actually sent by Dave Kleiman in 2011.

Edman says he's further looked at the document structure of the PDFs, and found the marker /TouchUp_TextEdit MP in the PDF code, a tell-tale marker of someone having made edits to the PDF such as adding/removing/editing text. This is something of a recurring trait for Wright, as it appears in many documents from him, including the recent manipulated Bitcoin whitepaper. In the case of the "2011" email, the date was manually edited in the PDF:




The defense makes an objection that metadata that's generated by user input (such as Date fields) should be considered hearsay by a third party. The judge overrules the objection, and the objection is honestly pure nonsense; Edman's testimony is not relying on user-generated metadata fields being accurate, in fact he's doing the complete opposite; pointing out that they have clearly been falsified.

It turns out Wright also provided the email in question in raw form (a .msg file) ahead of the previous June 28 hearing. Edman analyzed the email headers of this file as well. While these headers were more thoroughly manipulated to look like a genuine 2011 email from Dave Kleiman, several things still reveal manipulations:
UNIX timestamps don't match the human-readable dates (October 2012 vs. June 2011).
This email passed through Google servers; the previous email indicated craig@panopticrypt.com was handled by servers running Microsoft software.
According to Edman, the .msg file contained a reference to the email address craig.wright@hotwirepe.com, however that domain did not exist in June 2011.
The headers of this email are actually from an email sent through Google servers in October 2012, and are completely different from the headers embedded in the previous PDF files.
Edman is asked whether this new .msg file is an authentic email from Dave Kleiman to Craig Wright from June 2011, and answers no. (The defense objects because they don't want this to be taken as a finding that Dave Kleiman did not send an email like this to Craig Wright.) It looks like this new variant of the email was created from some unrelated old 2012 email, instead of the email Wright sent to himself that was used as the basis for the original forgery.

Edman has also analyzed another email provided by Wright that contains the same document ID (indicating it was created by editing the other document). This document purports to be an email from Dave to Craig in April 2013 regarding Dave accepting a role as director of Coin-Exch. (This was three weeks before his death.) The metadata in this PDF is obviously based on and is practically identical to the earlier "2011" email, except the PDF has been edited to contain a different email body. Even the MailAttachments field is still present, even though the printed email in the PDF does not have any attachments.

This email body contains a PGP signature, which has an embedded timestamp of October 23, 2014. This is very reminiscent of the other forged email Wright was caught submitting as evidence (and subsequently withdrew). Edman is asked if he's aware that Dave Kleiman died in April 2013, which the defense objects to as irrelevant. The judge overrules, and Edman gets to explain how this signature cannot possibly be authentic. Further, the key used for this signature has been used and mentioned in other Tulip Trust documents.

Edman next talks about the metadata of a Deed of Trust previously sworn by Wright in this trial, ostensibly created in 2012 but containing font files that were created in 2015. The fonts contain a 2015 copyright notice and also contain timestamped digital signatures from May 22, 2015.

The defense objects to relevance as plaintiffs question Edman about yet another email, but the judge allows it as it pertains to Wright's intent and credibility. This email, purportedly from September 2012, also contains digital signatures, these ones timestamped February 28, 2014 and March 5, 2014 (UTC), and using a version of GnuPG (2.0.20) that was released in May 2013.

Yet another email quoting a purported email from Kleiman to Wright in 2012 containing a list Bitcoin addresses supposedly held by the Tulip Trust. The signature in this message was timestamped March 2, 2014. "Dave" describes how at least some of these bitcoins are held as paper wallets while others are on a TrueCrypt drive (directly contradicting Wright's later story about a deterministic wallet where the addresses/keys aren't stored but generated from random seeds).

The PGP key used to sign these last couple of emails was 0415E6CBE23FCC2D "Dave Kleiman (Bitcoin so we neer have to wotty about infaltion and easing) <dave@davekleiman.com>" [sic]. (Craig Wright is known to be a poor speller, and many of the forgeries also contain poor spelling.)

You can read the rest of the analysis here: https://blog.wizsec.jp/2019/08/kleiman-v-craig-wright-part-4.html

There is plenty of other evidence that Craig has submitted forged documents and contradicting statements in court. He'll soon find out how U.S. judges feel about perjury Smiley.
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February 13, 2020, 10:40:46 PM
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And the reason for the entire case is ...?

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February 14, 2020, 03:46:13 AM
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And the reason for the entire case is ...?

Haven't you read any of the post here ?



https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4462662-24.html#document/p38/a423201

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February 14, 2020, 07:33:38 AM
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Better read only sources from origin

never get infos only from biased sites like btc

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February 14, 2020, 08:04:44 AM
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And the reason for the entire case is ...?

Craig getting called out by Ira for using his dead brother in a tax fraud attempt.
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 Bending some rules here and there doesn't matter if you know you will win the case.



If you say something like this , and you call all the forged documents and lies he said under oath "bending some rules".   Then it's no wonder why you support the man.  

P.S. -   My advice is to stop spreading everywhere your academic achievements , cause after you're saying something completely retarded like you just did ,  and people will assume your lieying about that aswell.
 
But at least you convinced me of something right now , and that is that all you BSV shillers , are completely in a different bubble , where you don't listen to common sense , where you simply troll and spam all this nonsense.    You basically ignore all evidence , and write it off as irrelevant. Simply put you're just a cult of brain washed puppets .   Even if the real Satoshi will pop back one day , you trolls will continue worshipping the shit that C.W. spreads around.



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"Bitcoin" SV is pulled off from https://www.blockchain.com/prices about 5 days ago.  Grin

I consider Bitcoin SV a huge scam because they published fake news to push the price above 300 USD. What do you expect from capitalists who wanna jump on the train of Bitcoin and get some slices from its fame and success. I think all corporation in the United States which produces any kind of coin should be banned in all other countries.

Let's see and wait where the real scammers getting sentenced soon

https://www.coindesk.com/us-doj-calls-bitcoin-mixing-a-crime-in-arrest-of-software-developer

just to name a few: btc , bch, eth, ... devs and supporterts

-> fine for bsv to get out of that sphere of shit and crime

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And the reason for the entire case is ...?

Craig getting called out by Ira for using his dead brother in a tax fraud attempt.

LoL

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"Bitcoin" SV is pulled off from https://www.blockchain.com/prices about 5 days ago.  Grin

I consider Bitcoin SV a huge scam because they published fake news to push the price above 300 USD. What do you expect from capitalists who wanna jump on the train of Bitcoin and get some slices from its fame and success. I think all corporation in the United States which produces any kind of coin should be banned in all other countries.

Let's see and wait where the real scammers getting sentenced soon

https://www.coindesk.com/us-doj-calls-bitcoin-mixing-a-crime-in-arrest-of-software-developer

just to name a few: btc , bch, eth, ... devs and supporterts

-> fine for bsv to get out of that sphere of shit and crime

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February 14, 2020, 08:12:19 PM
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=== Duplicate from parallel thread ===

Craig S. Wright is Satoshi!


Just compare these two pictures.

Craig Wright at work:




A page from some old textbook of medicine:



I think that similarity is quite obvious.

P.S. Picture description says "Fig. 23. The proud pose of a patient suffering schizophrenia with delusional ideas of greatness.".
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I think that similarity is quite obvious.

P.S. Picture description says "Fig. 23. The proud pose of a patient suffering schizophrenia with delusional ideas of greatness.".

I believe Craig to be quite sane and aware of his actions. I'm no expert in mental health but I doubt that he suffers from schizophrenia.

My honestly held opinion is that he is quite aware of the deceptions and has been getting away with some of it for years (with exception being his contempt of court conviction in Australia and company shutdowns by the Australian Tax Office) - supporting a very comfortable lifestyle of luxury.


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I believe Craig to be quite sane and aware of his actions. I'm no expert in mental health but I doubt that he suffers from schizophrenia.
Well, you're right that he's of the kind for whom it's not necessary to suffer from schizophrenia because he can enjoy it.  Roll Eyes
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February 15, 2020, 10:46:47 AM
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DENARIUZ LTD is missing £19 999 800 from its accounts.

DENARIUZ LTD has an issued capital of £20 000 000.
It certified in 2014 and in 2015 that all 20 000 000 £1 shares were fully paid up.










The accounts only show £200 paid.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08260048/filing-history

c01n ltd is missing £34 000 000 in 2014 according to the accounts. Two different sets of accounts were filed for 2014
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08248988/filing-history?page=1









Its 2015 and 2016 returns certify there was no change in shareholding.

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DENARIUZ LTD is missing £19 999 800 from its accounts.

DENARIUZ LTD has an issued capital of £20 000 000.
It certified in 2014 and in 2015 that all 20 000 000 £1 shares were fully paid up.


I spent an hour or so researching this and it would look like at least in this instance the money is owed to himself... It looks like shoddy paperwork - don't know why he decided to include DeMorgan (one of his companies) as a shareholder and then remove it without explanation - but I think at worst the missing money is owed to himself. Likely it never existed in the first place.

It would appear that his companies Cloudcroft and DeMorgan were just set up to take part in an Australian tax rebate scheme, and aside from the occasional story involving Wright, their existence has been scrubbed from the internet. As a matter of fact, the website for DeMorgan has somehow been excluded from the Wayback Machine.

From one such story on Wright, from 2015:

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After the stories first broke, Biddle reported that Wright had deleted his Twitter account, his YouTube account, and his blog. More suspiciously, the Web sites for DeMorgan and Cloudcroft, two companies in which Wright held large stakes, also disappeared. In a YouTube video that I saw before it was deleted, Wright touted Cloudcroft’s Tulip Trading, a subsidiary operation running a powerful supercomputer known as C01N. On its Web site, Cloudcroft had posted a letter of endorsement from the Australian computer manufacturer Silicon Graphics Incorporated (S.G.I.), which said that it had built and tuned Cloudcroft’s supercomputer. The letter, and other related information on Cloudcroft and DeMorgan’s Web sites, immediately struck some online-hardware experts as bogus. One asked, “Did anyone call SGI and ask them if they sold this guy a ~100 million dollar system? It’s kind of hard to miss.”

Soon enough, someone did. On Thursday night, ZDNet reported that S.G.I. denied having any relationship with Wright. “Cloudcroft has never been an SGI customer and SGI has no relationship with Cloudcroft CEO Craig Steven Wright,” Cassio Conceicao, S.G.I.’s executive vice president and chief operating officer, said.

Basically, even though I don't think he ripped off anybody with his CO1N and Denariuz companies, what his filings with these companies does suggest is that he has a long-standing reputation of just making shit up out of thin air.

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