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July 19, 2019, 06:41:52 AM
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LiveCoin started a new signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166711.0

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July 19, 2019, 07:41:02 AM
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LiveCoin started a new signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166711.0

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July 19, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
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LiveCoin started a new signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166711.0

Surely it doesn't look good. After hhampuz decided to end the campaign instead of solving the issue between the OP and the exchange they started a new campaign.

They don't understand how things work here at all.

It is really sad despite all the warnings and all the chances they had to solve the issue, they went this way and ignoring what people say.

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July 19, 2019, 12:30:48 PM
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LiveCoin started a new signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166711.0
I believe they will choose most of spammers. Since here is open scam accusation, I think any reputed user will apply there. Perhaps their signature will end up like Yobit. They should resolve that accusation and hire a well reputed managers. However, I am little bit late on this thread, so I will take a look all of reply here before make any judgment.

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July 19, 2019, 01:26:42 PM
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A month passed after they blocked my account for publicly criticizing their work. They continue to blackmail me so that I delete everything that I have said here, otherwise they will not return anything to me! The only thing they did was Mona coins delisting, which I now cannot sell even for the pennies they offer in return, because my account is blocked.
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July 19, 2019, 01:51:51 PM
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A month passed after they blocked my account for publicly criticizing their work. They continue to blackmail me so that I delete everything that I have said here, otherwise they will not return anything to me!

Would you mind sharing that blackmails to us so we can see, that the LIVECOIN shouldn't be here and atleast be banned. With those mails that you were saying, many will be saved and on the later part, this site will fall. If they continue their habbit on making such behaviour then who knows what can they do to others, and as for the OP, there might be no chances on retrieving your finances, so I think you should consider this now, as for the fact LIVECOIN doesn't want to answer the allegations.
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July 19, 2019, 01:59:13 PM
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A month passed after they blocked my account for publicly criticizing their work. They continue to blackmail me so that I delete everything that I have said here, otherwise they will not return anything to me! The only thing they did was Mona coins delisting, which I now cannot sell even for the pennies they offer in return, because my account is blocked.
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July 19, 2019, 02:02:42 PM
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A month passed after they blocked my account for publicly criticizing their work. They continue to blackmail me so that I delete everything that I have said here, otherwise they will not return anything to me! The only thing they did was Mona coins delisting, which I now cannot sell even for the pennies they offer in return, because my account is blocked.
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Why did you withdraw your flag?

WOW! What is that?! I don't know how it happened, maybe some kind of mistake! Thanks!
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July 19, 2019, 03:56:21 PM
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LiveCoin started a new signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166711.0
I believe they will choose most of spammers. Since here is open scam accusation, I think any reputed user will apply there. Perhaps their signature will end up like Yobit. They should resolve that accusation and hire a well reputed managers. However, I am little bit late on this thread, so I will take a look all of reply here before make any judgment.

The reward is very huge and very tempting and you can really earn a lot if you completed that 50 posts, they did not specify the number of people they are going to accept, so there is a possibility that they can accept as many people that they want and would like to apply.

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July 19, 2019, 04:41:03 PM
Last edit: July 19, 2019, 09:02:05 PM by mindrust
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LiveCoin started a new signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166711.0
I believe they will choose most of spammers. Since here is open scam accusation, I think any reputed user will apply there. Perhaps their signature will end up like Yobit. They should resolve that accusation and hire a well reputed managers. However, I am little bit late on this thread, so I will take a look all of reply here before make any judgment.

The reward is very huge and very tempting and you can really earn a lot if you completed that 50 posts, they did not specify the number of people they are going to accept, so there is a possibility that they can accept as many people that they want and would like to apply.

It is not worth getting all the hate from the well established members. (you may even get tagged for this)

Yobit had great rewards too, look what happened to them. Many yobit signature carriers got a sig ban for months.

It is very clear, respected members of the forum aren't applying for this campaign any more.

Sometimes your reputation is more important than getting a few satoshis.

I really wish Livecoin had sorted this out, as I sent my applications to their campaign several times before.

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July 19, 2019, 08:17:46 PM
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Sometimes your reputation is more important than getting a few satoshis.




match point dude Smiley
i think always reputation > money

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July 19, 2019, 09:01:26 PM
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Sometimes your reputation is more important than getting a few satoshis.




match point dude Smiley
i think always reputation > money

That "sometimes" was just a figure of speech. Of course it is always more important than a few satoshis.  Cheesy

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July 19, 2019, 09:04:04 PM
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I see a dozen chaps applying for the campaign with a few who are ofcourse just trying to be sarcastic.
Don't you think DT members should tag the other culprits for joining the campaign very well knowing that Livecoin were proven scammers?

Warnings are all there but they just decided to ignore and join the campaign  Embarrassed

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July 20, 2019, 03:59:41 AM
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It seems that their attitude towards the client will become a guideline for other exchanges - what is forbidden to do when working with a client



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July 20, 2019, 04:31:21 PM
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This is interesting.
Livecoin suffered a loss a few months ago when someone exploited a monero vulnerability
https://latesthackingnews.com/2018/08/05/monero-wallet-vulnerability-loss-of-1-8-million-to-livecoin-crypto-exchange/

And then a member of monero community post this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/bv0427/livecoinnet_may_have_actually_tried_to_breach_the/

So maybe Livecoin tried to negociate something with MONA but they did not give the coins to them, something similar happen with Bitcoin Gold and some exchange like a year ago
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July 21, 2019, 11:27:10 AM
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@izooomrud
Please state your concern for this proposed resolution : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167034.msg51895738#msg51895738

I have sent you a PM regarding the same.

This is just a bribe @izooomrud, just don't accept it.

Everyone here is supporting you not just because of your case but as a future costumer of the same exchange and so that anyone else should not get tied into a same problem while dealing with Livecoin exchange in the future.

I don't think much of the members from the Livecoin campaign would be willing to pay your loss from there pocket, I even don't think they should anyways.


3. Convince izooomrud to withdraw all scam accusation by assuming his lost money is about to be recovered.

Doing this would just be unfair and out of ethics for your part, still my guess is you would not accept it. It's just a assumption after all and participants of the campaign are not the once who should pay your losses, it would not happen every time either.
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Hello everyone, today I have good news for you and before I share my thoughts with you, I’d like to share some good news! I received a message from the livecoin technical support service today with a statement that I can withdraw my funds within 48 hours, after which my account will be permanently blocked!
I withdrew all the funds that I were available, however there is an issue with Mona coins. Currently, 720 Mona coins remain on my account balance. Several solutions of this issue were offered by me to the exchange, right now I am waiting for an answer.

I am glad that the livecoin staff chosen a civilized solution of the issue, and I would like to thank them for that. However, I realize that without all of you who supported me, people who were on a side of common sense and solid evidence, this would not have happened, and therefore it is solely your merit! Thanks a lot! Only because of people like you, the exchanges will try to work honestly and in the whole world of cryptocurrency there will be fewer scammers! I am so proud of you and how you defend not only your rights, but also the rights of other people, this is amazing!

Moreover, I sincerely would like to thank people who were concerned about this problem and offered to compensate my financial losses from their own funds. I think this should not be done and I cannot take your money, because it does not solve the main problem which must be solved by its initiator, namely the exchange. The exchange should understand that in the future if they will treat someone else as they treated me, they will have the same problem and it should make them think about it 100 times before repeating this mistake again. We are all gathered here to make sure the exchange is solving any issues users have by using civilized methods, and not to ensure that users solve the problems of this exchange. We all remember how after having lost my money during the attack 51% on the MONA network, the exchange sent me to solve their problem (which they allowed to happen) to the developer! Of course, it would be very convenient for them if their problems were solved by the users themselves, but then why do we even need such an exchange? Do they exist just to receive money and do nothing else? I think we should help this exchange to make some improvements by pointing out to their mistakes and help them to become a good exchange, if they are ready to listen.

Right now, I would like to share some of my thoughts with you.
I never read this forum much prior to having this issue with livecoin and this issue has changed everything radically. It was not easy for me to decide how to react correctly.
One of my options was to satisfy the illegal demand of the exchange and delete my reviews about their work in hopes that they will return my funds, which they have taken away to pressure me. However, I understood that they would only allow to take my BTC back (which they were holding to put pressure on me) but MONA coins would never be returned to me. I was thinking, what if I am not the first person who follows the exchange demands and deletes his reviews under the threat of losing his money? After all, the stock exchange cannot behave so brazenly out of nothing, this means that this strategy worked for them previously.
I wanted to defend my truth, but at the same time I was afraid of losing my money. My communication was suppressed by a large amount of negativity and unwarranted insults, along with baseless accusations that I received in my address from people supporting this exchange. Guys, only your support helped me a lot at that moment and thank you again for it! Because of your support, we got to the present moment of the development of the situation.

This situation has shown not only problems with the exchange, it has clearly demonstrated what people are ready to do just for money. Some of them were simply insulting me, others blamed that I specifically stated the problem in the English branch of the forum to get support. It seemed to me they were really upset about it, because they could have put more pressure on me in the Russian branch of the forum instead. Now I would like to point out those people who tried to prevent conflict resolution and aggravate it.



this alpha male guy has repeatedly stated that most English-speaking users are youngsters who envy the guys from Eastern Europe because they have the most beautiful girls in the world, that is why they are supporting me. At this time, he continues to carry utter nonsense about my involvement in the attack, backing up his accusations with the fact that I am not interested in returning my funds, and my only interest is to get an opportunity to deposit/withdrawal of Mona coins through the exchange.



always follows a livecoin representatives and supports all their statements, no matter how silly they are. At the very beginning, when I just voiced my concern, he called me a fraudster. How a person who demands the return of his money can be called a fraudster is still not clear to me. He is constantly trying to set up other users against me.

I don’t know why the hell they are doing this. If they are doing this for money, then it’s very stupid, because by helping fraudsters for 3 cents they are causing harm not only to me personally, but they harm the whole crypto community.

When I was looking at their posts I thought, damn it, I hope people would not fall into their trap and not believe in that nonsense. At some point I was even afraid of this, but I caught myself thinking: “how can anyone believe in that nonsense?!”. Then I saw people who supported me and once again made sure that the truth is easily distinguished from lies.

I gave them enough time to demonstrate their ability to carry this unthinkable nonsense, but I think this is the right time to reply to them.

I NEVER asked to open deposit/withdrawal opportunity, I only asked to RETURN my funds and nothing else. I was afraid that they would only give me back my BTC (which were being held to put pressure on me) and my MONA coins would not be returned or returned of their current market value to BTC. But no matter how much you call Mona a “shit coin”, it ranks TOP 70 Coinmarketcap with a capitalization of more than $ 100 million! Therefore, I want the exchange to return my Mona coins, so I could continue to hold them until they reach the price level at which I bought those coins, and I am sure they will reach that price again.
If you really want to know, I certainly would agree if they give me back the BTC that I spent on buying Mona! If I initially stated that I want compensation in BTC, then I would have heard 10 times more insults in my address than I had already heard. They would certainly begin to speak in their accusations; “Hey, look, it's just a loser-trader who has lost profit and is now trying to recover what he has lost!” Therefore, I consider it fair if they just return my Mona coins and I will continue to hold them. It does not matter how they will return them to me, by opening a deposit/withdrawal option or from any other wallet. I repeat once again that I would agree to compensation in BTC, or any other cryptocurrency in the amount corresponding to the value of 0.30 BTC at this moment.

Once more, I would like to thank all the forum users (of the Russian - speaking and English - speaking branches) that support me. I am so grateful for your support, it is very important to me to know that there are people who are willing to provide support when someone needs it.
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July 22, 2019, 05:20:33 AM
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You never could withdrawal your MONA -- not for one day. You bought MONA on the exchange after the 51% attack, and after withdrawals had been disabled. What happened was, you bought MONA, forgot about it for a year, and then was dismayed to find out withdrawals were still closed. You bitched incessantly at Livecoin about not being able to withdrawal your coins. They explained the situation to you. You then took to the internet to bitch about it, and they suspended your account.

Now that they have re-opened your account, you did exactly what I thought you were going to do: continue bitching about not being able to withdrawal the MONA. You should have kept better track of what was going on on the exchange during the entire year you had coins on it.

Livecoin is obviously buying up outstanding MONA at 0.00003 BTC before the delisting - they have created a buywall of 10,000 coins at this price to give MONA holders a chance to sell before its too late. If I were you I would sell your holdings for this price, withdrawal your BTC, and be happy that you got anything at all.

Shit happens. Sure, part of the blame is Livecoin's, but part of it is yours for not paying attention to what was happening with your own investment. Their reputation here has already been severely damaged. My bet is they are not going to buy MONA specifically for you to withdrawal, so if I were you I would take what I can get and get out now.

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July 22, 2019, 05:39:29 AM
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As I suggested and predicted.

That's the most sensible way to proceed. You can't withdraw (all) your MONA because they don't exist and I don't think it was livecoin's fault.

Edit: just read nutildah's post. Looks like they are going to make you whole.

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July 22, 2019, 06:46:08 AM
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You can't withdraw (all) your MONA because they don't exist and I don't think it was livecoin's fault.

He was told this right away. But he began to threaten the employees of the exchange and insult them. You guys supported the liar, scammer and blackmailer Sad

The overwhelming part of the Russian forum did not support him.

A пo фaктy нeт тaкoгo пyнктa кoтopый зaпpeщaeт мнe лгaть нa биpжy.
Translation:
And in fact there is no such item that prohibits me to lie about the stock exchange.
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