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July 04, 2019, 03:01:18 PM
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If the user knowingly bought the coin while the wallet/withdrawal was disabled then I'd say LiveCoin might have a point but they need to unblock the account. Idiots buying worthless shitcoins is not something an exchange should be responsible for. Still it's a shitty move to allow trading in these circumstances. MONA is trading 75% lower on LiveCoin than it is elsewhere.
It appears they have another coin that they disabled the wallet for quite sometime and continue to allow trading. The coin happens to be Monero... from what I can tell, it appears Livecoin wants the Monero team to compensate them for 1.8 million worth of losses. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/brd4nf/livecoinnet_xmr_wallet_offline/
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July 04, 2019, 03:04:45 PM
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Livecoin.net's next defensive strategy.. "not your keys, not your coins"

Come on, your defense so far is that OP bought a trash asset and needs to communicate a fix with the developers of the coin while remaining silent about this problem. I'd imagine they've made a pretty penny off the monero arbitrage opportunities they've created and maintained for themselves.
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July 04, 2019, 03:50:02 PM
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If the user knowingly bought the coin while the wallet/withdrawal was disabled then I'd say LiveCoin might have a point but they need to unblock the account. Idiots buying worthless shitcoins is not something an exchange should be responsible for. Still it's a shitty move to allow trading in these circumstances. MONA is trading 75% lower on LiveCoin than it is elsewhere.
It appears they have another coin that they disabled the wallet for quite sometime and continue to allow trading. The coin happens to be Monero... from what I can tell, it appears Livecoin wants the Monero team to compensate them for 1.8 million worth of losses. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/brd4nf/livecoinnet_xmr_wallet_offline/

Message to Livecoin team. This is a failing strategy. You have a limited window to change your approach to these situations. If you refuse your exchange is without a doubt finished.


I recommend people get what you can out of this exchange because this kind of behavior is indicative of an exchange that is under water and dealing with its problems in an extremely incompetent manner.
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July 04, 2019, 04:54:40 PM
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I've been warning about Livecoin for many months in my sig after seeing their attitude towards customers, their lack of support on their ANN thread & their generally shady behaviour. It's the usual case of some dodgy exchange that nobody knows who runs it, who owns it, where it's located or who works there. We see these types of exchanges pop-up all the time, they list as many shitcoins as they can, let people deposit & withdraw small amounts for ages then gradually start skimming users while hiding behind constantly changing BS TOC's & KYC requirements that pop-up out of nowhere - it's become the norm for all these scam centralized exchanges.
Livecoin were crafty though, they started a sig campaign some weeks ago requiring that only legendary accounts were eligible in an effort to revive their failing reputation & give the impression that they were a trustworthy & legitimate exchange - it was quite sad to see how many legendary accounts jumped at the chance to earn a few satoshi & were prepared to sell their profiles out to a scam outfit like Livecoin - maybe the fact that the campaign was for legendary members only made them feel like they were special or something, or maybe greed blinded them to the obvious, but whatever their reasons were they should have done a little research before doing so.
I guess it just goes to show that even legendary members can be taken for a ride & fall for obvious scams if the price is right I suppose.

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July 04, 2019, 05:37:13 PM
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Hi guys, it’s very difficult for me to answer their accusations in several sections, and also to respond to the attacks of all those they send to me.
Thank you for your support and trust in me, I really appreciate it. Without your support, I would probably give up. And thanks to you, I have a chance that they will return what they stole from me!
I will write them a full response to the new unfounded accusation against me here, tomorrow. Thanks!
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July 04, 2019, 05:55:49 PM
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Hi guys, it’s very difficult for me to answer their accusations in several sections, and also to respond to the attacks of all those they send to me.
Thank you for your support and trust in me, I really appreciate it. Without your support, I would probably give up. And thanks to you, I have a chance that they will return what they stole from me!
I will write them a full response to the new unfounded accusation against me here, tomorrow. Thanks!

Fella, you bought a shit asset that was then frozen. Unfortunately for you this isn’t likely to end how you want, but.. the exchange will end up opening your account and allow you to dump the coins on market then withdraw btc. The issue now is how they handle this all, they will be under no obligation to make you right with the shitcoin.

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July 04, 2019, 06:07:49 PM
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In light of the revelations in this thread, I have notified the participants of the LiveCoin signature campaign of this thread, and of the active flag against LiveCoin.
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July 04, 2019, 06:16:14 PM
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In light of the revelations in this thread, I have notified the participants of the LiveCoin signature campaign of this thread, and of the active flag against LiveCoin.

Unfortunately, the campaign offers the second highest paying rates and the posting restrictions are very liberal. People will be loath to leave. I know that I was.
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July 04, 2019, 06:18:18 PM
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I recommend people get what you can out of this exchange because this kind of behavior is indicative of an exchange that is under water and dealing with its problems in an extremely incompetent manner.

This looks like a million dollar advice to anyone trading or holding there crypto assets on Livecoin Exchange.

They are just throwing base less reasons of the user buying shitcoin on there exchange! Really! That sounds like an ironic statement from an exchange.

I would suggest everyone using the exchange to take the above advice by TECSHARE seriously.

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July 04, 2019, 06:18:45 PM
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In light of the revelations in this thread, I have notified the participants of the LiveCoin signature campaign of this thread, and of the active flag against LiveCoin.

Unfortunately, the campaign offers the second highest paying rates and the posting restrictions are very liberal. People will be loath to leave. I know that I was.
Well hopefully most people will be willing to put their ethics of not advertising for what now appears to be a scam above a few hundred dollars per week.
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July 04, 2019, 06:20:17 PM
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In light of the revelations in this thread, I have notified the participants of the LiveCoin signature campaign of this thread, and of the active flag against LiveCoin.

Unfortunately, the campaign offers the second highest paying rates and the posting restrictions are very liberal. People will be loath to leave. I know that I was.
Well hopefully most people will be willing to put their ethics of not advertising for what now appears to be a scam above a few hundred dollars per week.

Doesn't this smell like new YoBit here ?

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July 04, 2019, 06:32:33 PM
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for the moment i save this discussion

https://archive.is/MqpXg

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note: 6 years of activity - https://www.livecoin.net/en/about
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Domain Name: LIVECOIN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1817111312_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namesilo.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namesilo.com
Updated Date: 2019-03-25T01:04:25Z
Creation Date: 2013-07-23T18:40:46Z <<<<<<<<<<<<
Registry Expiry Date: 2019-07-23T18:40:46Z
Registrar: NameSilo, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 1479
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namesilo.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4805240066
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
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Name Server: NS2.BODIS.COM
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- screenshots isnt a clue, now and ever
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159692.msg51715434#msg51715434
- accusator have a red trust https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1023418.msg51703280#msg51703280 >>> http://archive.is/JClkd for blackmail livecoin --- vadi2323 isnt not involved in livecoin signature campaign
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The middle one (quite possibly) - went to bed, pissed, realized, trying to get out of the situation with the least losses in all ways: lies, blackmail

Bad (not excluded) - connected with the organizers of the attack itself and everything that is happening to the order.

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Ask the question, what exactly are you asking? If you want to know why I bought these coins? Well, they were on this exchange and I could do it, the answer is obvious Smiley
If you are trying to prove this that if a user bought Shitcoin on the exchange, then she has the right to lose it, it is at least silly

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We also consider connivance of the bitcointalk administration in such questions - inappropriate.

If you're referring to me (the only user posting here thus far with a 'Staff' position), then I'm not an administrator but a moderator, and I'm speaking my mind as a regular user.

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July 04, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
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If the user knowingly bought the coin while the wallet/withdrawal was disabled then I'd say LiveCoin might have a point but they need to unblock the account. Idiots buying worthless shitcoins is not something an exchange should be responsible for. Still it's a shitty move to allow trading in these circumstances. MONA is trading 75% lower on LiveCoin than it is elsewhere.
It appears they have another coin that they disabled the wallet for quite sometime and continue to allow trading. The coin happens to be Monero... from what I can tell, it appears Livecoin wants the Monero team to compensate them for 1.8 million worth of losses. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/brd4nf/livecoinnet_xmr_wallet_offline/

Message to Livecoin team. This is a failing strategy. You have a limited window to change your approach to these situations. If you refuse your exchange is without a doubt finished.

Blaming the developer team for their own incompetence and lack of risk management, and then selectively scamming their customers to recoup the losses -- that's what this amounts to!

I'm surprised such an unscrupulous exchange is running such a prominent signature campaign on Bitcointalk. I was hoping this would get rectified quickly, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like LiveCoin -- according to their behavior around their terms -- are just scammers.

I recommend people get what you can out of this exchange because this kind of behavior is indicative of an exchange that is under water and dealing with its problems in an extremely incompetent manner.

All signs point to insolvency and selective scamming to stay afloat. I agree that anyone in the position to withdraw funds should do so immediately.

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Livecoin exchange -
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'The client has knowingly bought the trash asset'
then why still keeping this trash asset instead of delisting it?
                            
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'The acquired funds is still in the client’s account, he can sell this asset after the purchase, and withdraw BTC for example.'
How can he uses it if you disabled it?
                            
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'We gave all explanations to the client as well'
How ironic that you gave him all of your explanation but not a single money was given/return.



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July 04, 2019, 11:22:43 PM
Last edit: July 04, 2019, 11:51:02 PM by izooomrud
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I warned you before that they are incompetent, and I am also shocked by the way they are communicating with their customers. Why should I delete all my posts, if I haven't lied about anything? Moreover, everything I said is supported by the evidence! So, let's assume that I'm lying (which of course is not true), then based on which section of the rules I am not allowed to do so?! And if there is no such section, then why the hell they blocked my account?!


Client makes wrongful accusations toward our Exchange. The status of the mentioned asset is indicated as the lowest and not recommended for purchase. The client has knowingly bought the trash asset. The fact that the asset is not available for withdrawal at the moment, is not a scam. The acquired funds is still in the client’s account, he can sell this asset after the purchase, and withdraw BTC for example.

We gave all explanations to the client as well, we suggested a few ways to solve this situation, but he refused. He threatens, abuses our staff and publish slander that has nothing to do with reality. Such behavior is illegal itself, it broke User Agreement as well local legislation too, this is a true SCAM. We also consider connivance of the bitcointalk administration in such questions - inappropriate.

It seems better when you keep silent, I think it works better in your defense. Everything you stated is a lie and nonsense that has no real evidence! Do not be like those people who only curse and insult others to support their point of view! You continue misleading your users and denigrating me, a person whose money you stole.
Client makes wrongful accusations toward our Exchange. The status of the mentioned asset is indicated as the lowest and not recommended for purchase. The client has knowingly bought the trash asset.
All the charges against you are supported by the evidence. All the information posted in the main and subsequent posts.
This asset did not have any «statuses» when I bought it in the beginning of 2018. The statuses you are referring to were created much later. Why are you lying? You brought up an interesting topic, and I would like to thank you for that. You statement makes me wonder - how did the "junk asset" appear on your stock exchange? I understand it would have not been right if I bought a "junk asset" and lost a lot of money because of its fall, then began demanding a compensation from you. This was not the case, and again you are trying to twist my words to misrepresent reality and confuse everyone. I bought a "trash asset", then you lost it during the “attack 51%” and I cannot withdraw it up to this time! Don’t try to tell me where I should sell it, I will decide it without your advice!
I am not afraid of your threat that you will put my money into your pocket, and I am not afraid of your or someone else’s false accusations, because I know that I am right! Neither you nor those who lie with you do not provide ANY evidence, but endless bare accusations and humiliations.

it broke User Agreement as well local legislation too
So funny when a thief talks about local legislation  Lips sealed

this is a true SCAM

This is something new, for God’s sake. You are trying to say, that when a user PURCHASED coins on your exchange and they were lost due to your fault, then you refused to compensate the losses and blocked user’s account, and when he turned to public and began to put pressure on you publicly by using evidence it’s called “scam”? Well, I see that your “logic” is just perfect. What kind of security you can even talk about, if you continue to lose your users' assets, and in case they are trying to make a claim you call it “SCAM”?
After my account was blocked “FOR THE PUBLIC JUDGMENT”, I did not receive a single warning nor receive any clear reasons explaining why it was blocked for 1.5 weeks. Please note that my account was blocked in 10 minutes after I published my opinion in this forum and on the bestchange. Although you keep stating to the public that you issue a warning before you block an account. My account was blocked on 07/18/2019 and I have not received any explanation from you regarding the reasons why blocking it for over a week!

I kept sending you my requests and demanded a resolution of this issue for 1.5 weeks! And that's what you answered to me the first time.
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Hello. As stated above, we are checking your account for violations of the user agreement. Usually it takes several days to complete all necessary checks, after that users can withdraw their funds and we close the account. Later, there is no possibility of cooperation between us and this user. In case the customer keeps violating the user agreement, it can take longer to make all necessary checks. Moreover, in case of multiple violations or obvious abuse, we can make a decision to permanently block the account according to the user agreement.
- You must solve this issue if your reputation is important to you.
We would like to bring to your attention that any threats are violations of the user agreement that you signed before registering your account. We recommend you reviewing it.
It was very strange of you to perceive my demand to resolve this issue as a threat. I think, if you perceived this is a threat, then you know that there is no truth behind you!

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Looks like you are afraid of something, since you consider a request from your customer as a threat. Of course, you did not forget to count this as another embellished “violation” of mine. Would you be kind enough to tell me what I have violated? I would be happy to terminate our business right now, please return all my funds!

Once again, without receiving any explanations from you about the reasons for blocking my account, I assumed that the blocking could have been because I published technical support tickets. So, I deleted all of them and I informed you about it. Now I would like you to look at how you replied to me, maybe now you will feel ashamed.

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Hello. We checked all information posted by you. The violations were not eliminated, and you are continuing to maliciously violate the user agreement. You have accepted the user agreement rules before registration, therefore you agreed to all sections of this agreement. You will find out what are your violations if you would read it again. In this agreement you will find information regarding losses due to the third partys’ software vulnerability and a late notice (or lack of such) to our services by the developers or representatives cryptocurrency regarding issues with that particular cryptocurrency.
- Please do not ignore my question.
You wrote to us on the weekend and we are not ignoring your question. Further communication may exist only when all the violations will be eliminated completely.
Do you think that I must search for the reasons why you blocked my account? Instead of explaining everything to me, you began to play hide and seek! Is this how a modern stock exchange works in your opinion?

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I read the user agreement again and it looks like I have not violated any rules. I deleted all posted screenshots of my communication with the customer service and now I do not understand what else I should do. It reminds me of a day care, as you are playing charades with me: “guess what….”. If you are ready for a productive dialogue, please tell me specific violations and I will fix them. Overall, it seems to me that you just stole my money and will never give it back to me

Your reply to my question, that I literally had been pulling out from you for over 2 weeks, was just unbelievable! After all this how dare you to accuse me of inciting a conflict and scam?!
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For the most part all your posts have unreliable and false information, which violates the user agreement. Everything written by you must be deleted. You cannot edit or make any changes to your post. You told us before that you’ve deleted your posts, however, upon further inspection we discovered that it was not true. There were more posts published by you. It looks like you are intentionally ignoring our requests and make the process of solving this issue more difficult. Also, before registering your account you have accepted all the sections of the user agreement, not only ones you like. If you disliked some of the sections of this agreement, you should have not signed it and use our services. Currently your account is suspended for further investigation. However, in case of malicious violations of any sections of the user agreement we can decide to block your account permanently. At this time, we have discovered multiple violations on several social media. All these violations must be resolved. If anyone quoted your posts, those quotes must be deleted as well. In case there is no way for you to delete those posts; you must seek help from the customer service support. If we were to find out that you are misleading our customer service representatives again, upon further investigation, your account will be deleted without any chance to recover it.

BINGO! The reason for blocking my account determined to be “spread of falsified information”. OK, let’s assume that the information posted by me was falsified. Then explain to me, which exact section of the user agreement prohibits me from do doing so?! If there is no such section exist, then why the hell my account was blocked?! It turns out that the reason might have been you felt offended, because you were trying to hide something. Well, here is my final answer.

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- Most of your messages contain noncredible and falsified information which violates the user agreement.
Wow! This is a lie! Just out of curiosity, which section of the agreement prohibits people from telling lies, even though I never lied. So, which one?!
- You mentioned before that you have deleted messages, however, upon further investigation we found out that it is not true. There were even more messages. So, you purposefully ignoring our requests and make the solution of this issue more difficult.
Stop lying and distorting the facts!
1. I have said that I deleted all the quotes by the customer service. Specifically: “All violations are resolved, withdraw all my funds”
2. What kind of f….g “requests”? You never requested me to do anything. You continued to keep silence and ignore my demands, therefore delaying resolution of this issue. If you are going to say right now: “we asked you not to violate our rules”, I will answer this – “this is a kinder garden”. Only now you are asking me to delete everything I ever wrote.
-Currently your account has been suspended for investigation. However, in case of malicious violations of the user agreement we can decide to permanently block your account.
Stop trying to scare me. Do something already .

So, now we determined that according to your rules, it is not forbidden to spread falsified information about your exchange (I repeat, that I did not spread falsified information). I still haven’t received an explanation of why my account was blocked; I demand you to tell me the reason you did this and return my money, which were stolen by you! My dear friends, I tell you that whatever belongs to me, but is in your possession without my agreement, is considered stolen! And since I didn’t break any rules, we return to June 18th. You did nothing to resolve this issue since that time but could have been more productive!

LiveCoin - is a modern stock exchange. The exchange is so modern that it fights negative feedback from their users by blocking their accounts! If you stand behind your company’s mission, then communicate with your costumer and show us that you are right in this situation. This will be 10 times more efficient and you will gain more trust from your customers, than what you are trying to do right now. This is the 21st century and most of the problems can be solved through a productive communication. Instead, you are trying to solve it by blackmailing!

So, you blocked my account and intimidated me with the fact that everything I posted must be deleted or else I will lose my assets, then what? I did not remain silent and now I am writing even more posts about the problem with the MONA coin that you are experiencing. All of this is gaining publicity, and now there are even more people who understand that you are wrong, and they will withdraw their currency from your exchange. This is a hint for you. Initially I demanded a resolution of this issue from you privately with no result. Only after I went publicly and accused you, you started to move, although in the wrong direction again.

We also consider connivance of the bitcointalk administration in such questions - inappropriate

Why are you always trying to blame someone else? You lost the MONA coins but blame the developer, you blame the user who wrote a negative feedback and you blame the forum that allowed the publication of a negative feedback supported by facts! Taking into consideration all the evidence of your fraud towards me, your topic on the altcoinstalks.com forum has been cleared. Is this a coincidence, or there is someone to blame for this?
I hope all this information will reach your higher management and you will be punished for everything you did. I feel sorry for this exchange, because it’s good overall. My complaints are addressed solely to the administration and their inappropriate customer service. Guys, you are walking on a very thin ice when making statements about me that are not supported by facts. You are pushing yourself into a corner and I highly advise you to reconsider your attitude towards clients.
Now I am ready to continue responding to silly attacks from your trolls and receiving random insults and false accusations out of the blue. Do not expect to receive the same reaction in return, in return you will receive more facts!

Please support my flag it is very important!
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July 04, 2019, 11:51:27 PM
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The exchange did not take the money. Where is it written that they stole something from him? Show exactly where it is written that the exchange stole his money. We are talking about blocking his account and while it is a temporary blocking, until all the consequences are eliminated. Read this topic, read the posts of this user, look at his behavior. Nothing strange?
So they started hiring shills to defend themselves? Start posting from your real account. Nothing seems strange in his behavior. He's a naive victim of your full-fledged scam.

We gave all explanations to the client as well, we suggested a few ways to solve this situation, but he refused. He threatens, abuses our staff and publish slander that has nothing to do with reality. Such behavior is illegal itself, it broke User Agreement as well local legislation too, this is a true SCAM. We also consider connivance of the bitcointalk administration in such questions - inappropriate.
ICO's don't really outlaw the general terms and conditions of consumer protection. Did he sign any contracts with you? Nope. Give his money back. Not like your shitcoin had intentions of doing anything apart from the pump and dump schemes to deceive the community. We know how things work.

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Livecoin.Net TOS have no reference to any company that owns or operates the website.

With the recent Bitsane disappearance it shows how risky it is having funds on an exchange that does not want to be found.

It appears to be registered in Belize under the name of:   RED VELVET INVESTMENTS LTD.





It appears that little information is known about Ivona Zlatova and there are suspicions that this person may not exist.




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I don't understand why is livecoin making a big fuss. Unlock his account, Give his money back, problem solved and everybody is happy. What's so hard about it? Did he steal anything from the exchange? Is his money originating from hackers/terrorists? If that's a "no" then unlock his account.

Also you can't just silence people by weaponizing your ToS, that's not what ToS is for.

I get it, it is there to protect the exchange but what about the customer?

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I don't understand why is livecoin making a big fuss. Unlock his account, Give his money back, problem solved and everybody is happy. What's so hard about it? Did he steal anything from the exchange? Is his money originating from hackers/terrorists? If that's a "no" then unlock his account.

Also you can't just silence people by weaponizing your ToS, that's not what ToS is for.

I get it, it is there to protect the exchange but what about the customer?

Their TOS also appears to break Belize law (where their company is supposedly registered)







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The Customer guarantees not to disclose any information, obtained from the Service support operator, in any channels of communication. Violation of this rule will lead to the account termination without refunding of the remaining balance of the account.

Such terms also appear to violate law by implying that you cannot share any information with the authorities because livecoin.net will seize your account balances.

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