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August 27, 2019, 07:12:13 AM Last edit: August 27, 2019, 07:47:46 AM by wwzsocki |
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OP explained already a few posts above this misunderstanding. Not the flag but support was mistakenly removed. Anyways thanks for the update. ...There was never a second flag...I removed the support of my flag...it was some kind of mistake...accidentally clicked to "cancel support", or something else, while studying the trust system...
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August 28, 2019, 05:36:50 AM |
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OP explained already a few posts above this misunderstanding. Not the flag but support was mistakenly removed. Anyways thanks for the update. ...There was never a second flag...I removed the support of my flag...it was some kind of mistake...accidentally clicked to "cancel support", or something else, while studying the trust system...
So its agreed that this exchange is not to be trusted yet your still shilling it?
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August 28, 2019, 07:41:21 AM Last edit: August 28, 2019, 10:22:10 AM by wwzsocki Merited by Vadi2323 (1), OcTradism (1) |
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So its agreed that this exchange is not to be trusted yet your still shilling it?
No, we agreed that the flag was not removed only the support for it because of mistake. Has nothing to do if I believe Livecoinis a scam. I have told already: ...If you ask me "is Livecoin exchange safe to use?", I would answer: "just like any other not regulated exchange". If you ask me: "is Livecoin a scam?", I would answer: "just like any other not regulated exchange"...
Please read the thread before jumping into commenting. Additionally, you are accusing me to be a shill of Livecoin which is in your opinion a scam. When I look at your signature I see that you are promoting Bitsler, so as always I made a very quick search on Google using the query: Bitsler + scam, look how many scam accusations against Bitssler I found only on half of the first page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180191.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUM1qlmns50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb7qIgXIIm4http://bittrust.org/bitslerhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3262442.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1582471.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353070.0This is only a small part of scam accusations found immediately in the first couple of links. I don't know if they are legit or not, but this is the best example that one and very complicated support issue, like in Livecoin case is not enough to call it a scam and if yes it is enough then be honest and call all scammers by the name and stop promoting them. Almost all that we are advertising here on Bitcointalk is not legal, half legal, registered in tax heavens, has no licenses, fake licenses in gambling heavens, there are multiple scam accusations against. The only solution would be to stop all campaigns. Do you really want that to happen?
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August 28, 2019, 03:54:05 PM |
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So its agreed that this exchange is not to be trusted yet your still shilling it?
No, we agreed that the flag was not removed only the support for it because of mistake. Has nothing to do if I believe Livecoinis a scam. I have told already: ...If you ask me "is Livecoin exchange safe to use?", I would answer: "just like any other not regulated exchange". If you ask me: "is Livecoin a scam?", I would answer: "just like any other not regulated exchange"...
Please read the thread before jumping into commenting. Additionally, you are accusing me to be a shill of Livecoin which is in your opinion a scam. When I look at your signature I see that you are promoting Bitsler, so as always I made a very quick search on Google using the query: Bitsler + scam, look how many scam accusations against Bitssler I found only on half of the first page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180191.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUM1qlmns50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb7qIgXIIm4http://bittrust.org/bitslerhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3262442.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1582471.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353070.0This is only a small part of scam accusations found immediately in the first couple of links. I don't know if they are legit or not, but this is the best example that one and very complicated support issue, like in Livecoin case is not enough to call it a scam and if yes it is enough then be honest and call all scammers by the name and stop promoting them. Almost all that we are advertising here on Bitcointalk is not legal, half legal, registered in tax heavens, has no licenses, fake licenses in gambling heavens, there are multiple scam accusations against. The only solution would be to stop all campaigns. Do you really want that to happen? I've checked every Bitsler accusation and found none credible. I actually researched for 6 months (and didn't join any as they all were sketchy) before deciding this one was legit. If there is a scam flag opened and supported against it I will immediately remove my advertisement as my word means something. Apparently yours doesn't.
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izooomrud (OP)
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August 29, 2019, 01:43:46 AM |
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Almost all that we are advertising here on Bitcointalk is not legal, half legal, registered in tax heavens, has no licenses, fake licenses in gambling heavens, there are multiple scam accusations against.
It seems like a pathetic attempt to help his reputation. Not a problem, you can wear any signature, this is your choice. But when I see your signature, you are the same scammer like livecoin to me and I will never deal with you
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August 29, 2019, 01:50:46 PM |
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Almost all that we are advertising here on Bitcointalk is not legal, half legal, registered in tax heavens, has no licenses, fake licenses in gambling heavens, there are multiple scam accusations against.
It seems like a pathetic attempt to help his reputation. Not a problem, you can wear any signature, this is your choice. But when I see your signature, you are the same scammer like livecoin to me and I will never deal with you If I wasn't out of merit i would merit this. BTW just to help your English, when you say "his" you should use "Their".
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September 02, 2019, 09:59:32 AM Last edit: September 03, 2019, 06:56:59 PM by wwzsocki |
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...you can wear any signature, this is your choice...
Of course, it is but thanks for reminding me about this. ...when I see your signature, you are the same scammer like livecoin to me and I will never deal with you...
What makes you think that I would ever deal with you in the first place? I have exactly the same fillings about you. I am out of here.
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September 03, 2019, 09:50:08 AM |
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What makes you think that I would ever deal with you in the first place? I have exactly the same fillings about you.
Of course, I have no doubt about it, because I criticize the scam on which you earn Come on, recently they have deceived even more people, after delisting Monero, and you can continue to advertise them further!
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September 10, 2019, 02:58:50 AM |
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OMG They stole my MONERO When you delist a coin, you have to give them back to the owners. They simply just took our XMR.
They stole more than 14,000 USD from me. I've captured images a couple of days before they delist and took our XMR.
Take a look at how the price of XMR dropped over the period of time. Also, take a look at the highlighted Amount of 982.32 XMR.
That is a huge number of XMR registered to suck up all XMR at an incredibly cheap price.
We can all tell that that attempt to buy XMR at such a low cost was not a real person. That is Livecoin trying to legally steal your coins.
Then after delisting XMR , they really stole our coins ILLEGALLY.
I asked for their street address and phone number/ CEO's information but they are not answering my tickets anymore. How can they get away with this? This is a big time theft!! Somebody need to file a lawsuit against them. https://imgur.com/IinHtYyhttps://imgur.com/zCdGWmv
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September 10, 2019, 03:17:11 AM |
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September 10, 2019, 02:23:28 PM |
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If they had posted that they were going to take this action and then people complained i would say they were justified. But they continued to allow deposits without means to withdraw which only allowed people to dump at that low price which makes them thiefs. Its pretty cut and dry.
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September 11, 2019, 04:23:38 AM |
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When they found out about the XMR coin duplication bug, they should've shut down the XMR exchange from their website.
They continued to allow people to trade Monero (xmr) with BTC, USD but didn't allow XMR withdrawl.
Once people realized that livecoin.net wasn't going to resolve this issue and bring the wallet back online, people had to convert their XMR into BTC or USD for 20~90% cheaper than what they were worth at the time. So people continued to wait because they couldn't just lose 20 ~90% of their money for no reason.
The we waited, the conversion rate become more ridiculous. They had intentions to steal our XMR and they ended up stealing our assets.
T H I E F S !!!!!!
Where are they located? what is their address and phone number? I asked for these information but Livecoin.net refused to answer my questions.
Does anybody know about their information? Please start a lawsuit and I will join you.
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September 11, 2019, 04:48:31 AM |
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But they continued to allow deposits without means to withdraw which only allowed people to dump at that low price which makes them thiefs.
They didn't though... Same thing with MONA. They shut down deposits and withdrawals after they got hacked. https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/11240/monero-wallet-in-livecoin-netWhen they found out about the XMR coin duplication bug, they should've shut down the XMR exchange from their website.
They continued to allow people to trade Monero (xmr) with BTC, USD but didn't allow XMR withdrawl.
They were hoping for compensation from the Monero devs, which never came. That's why they left trading open. Not necessarily the best plan, but that's what happened. The we waited, the conversion rate become more ridiculous. They had intentions to steal our XMR and they ended up stealing our assets.
How could they steal something that was already stolen?
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izooomrud (OP)
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September 12, 2019, 05:35:00 AM |
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How could they steal something that was already stolen?
Ahahahaha.....crazy scam defender like his friend Vadi2323 - troll from Livecoin Believing that the sale of something that does not exist is not theft They so actively trying to protect scammers that it is already getting ridiculous
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September 12, 2019, 05:46:28 AM Last edit: September 12, 2019, 09:29:18 AM by OcTradism |
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How exchanges are called as scam if they delisted coins with announcements on their website, and allowable time to withdraw for their users (with Livecoin, and recently Monero delist)? What will happen if exchanges announce to delist one coin next one or two weeks, and immediately disable trading on their exchanges after announcement? You pop-up and call them as scam, right? They allow time to withdraw coming delisted coins. You still pop-up and call them as scam, right? You should create and operate your own exchange, and do anything that satisfies you.
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September 12, 2019, 05:52:36 AM Last edit: September 12, 2019, 08:45:16 AM by izooomrud |
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How exchanges are called as scam if they delisted coins with announcements on their website, and allowable time to withdraw for their users (with Livecoin, and recently Monero delist)?
Why don’t you say that before excluding this they held tradings more than one year for an unsecured asset in violation of the user agreement? Are you sure that they gave the possibility of a withdrawal?
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September 12, 2019, 09:23:45 AM |
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How could they steal something that was already stolen?
Ahahahaha.....crazy scam defender like his friend Vadi2323 - troll from Livecoin Believing that the sale of something that does not exist is not theft They so actively trying to protect scammers that it is already getting ridiculous You know full well what was happening with your MONA, as it was the same thing that happened to XMR. And you rode it into the ground. That was stupid. Nobody can help you now.
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September 12, 2019, 05:37:38 PM |
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How could they steal something that was already stolen?
Ahahahaha.....crazy scam defender like his friend Vadi2323 - troll from Livecoin Believing that the sale of something that does not exist is not theft They so actively trying to protect scammers that it is already getting ridiculous You know full well what was happening with your MONA, as it was the same thing that happened to XMR. And you rode it into the ground. That was stupid. Nobody can help you now. I would never ask you for help - scam defender
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September 12, 2019, 06:16:34 PM Last edit: September 12, 2019, 06:54:21 PM by Hueristic |
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What? They were hacked July 20, 2018. https://latesthackingnews.com/2018/08/05/monero-wallet-vulnerability-loss-of-1-8-million-to-livecoin-crypto-exchange/They didn't disable deposits (you can't the address cannot be shut down!) at all just withdrawals and the link you posted to was posted 3 months ago. They were hoping for compensation from the Monero devs, which never came. That's why they left trading open. Not necessarily the best plan, but that's what happened.
Who cares what they were hoping for, they were stealing all deposits and anything that did not get hacked. And pray tell how are the devs going to pay an exchange on a non premined coin? Exchanges take the risk when they list and thats why they keep the profit, asking Devs to cover losses is ridiculous. I can see how pre-mined scam coins would just to keep the P&D going but can you imagine them asking Bitcoin Devs to replace stolen Bitcoins and to keep allowing deposits and closing withdrawals! How could they steal something that was already stolen?
They stole all that wasn't hacked away and was deposited since the hack by forcing people to dump them because they could not withdraw them. What they should have done is gone to the Monero community and asked for help, trying to exhort monero Devs for coins they don't have just shows their incompetence as well as their ignorance of the asset they were using to profit from. And I haven't even mentioned the fact they are anon russians that tried to make it look like they were an american based company to start with. I understand you feel you must defend these crooks because you were advertising for them but we all make mistakes. Stop trying to defend them, your hurting your name more by defending them then you ever did by advertising them.
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