⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[worldofcoins]

I just can't wait to watch the finals held on Wednesday. Both teams are tough and hard to beat.
I support Dortmund I have a strong belief that this year they'll lift the cup. They played tough in the last game and won the match.

[snipie]

I just can't wait to watch the finals held on Wednesday. Both teams are tough and hard to beat.
I support Dortmund I have a strong belief that this year they'll lift the cup. They played tough in the last game and won the match.

Seeing Dortmund losing badly yesterday vs Augsburg with 2 goals, I am no more sure they can compete and stand vs Bayern..
Odds in bookies are x1.48 for Bayern and x5. 2 for Dortmund... I expect both to score but Bayern will most likely win the game!

[kassex]

There is no second Sevilla and no second Lopetegui. And if Sevilla managed to oppose Bayern, it does not mean that someone else can do so. It takes a couple of seasons to find a promotion for Bayern.

So you are seeing Sevilla better than teams like City, Real, Juve, PSG or Liverpool etc.? If Sevilla manages to bring Bayern into trouble, all these team can do it very well, too in my opinion. If you want to have a chance against Bayern, Sevillas tactic could be a good example how to approach the match. If you play such a high-risk formation like Schalke did last week with slow offensive full-backs against Gnabry and Sane, it's no wonder you concede 8 goals. I still see Bayern as the top-favourite for this years title but it won't be a walk in the park for them either. Not every team will be as chanceless as Barca or Schalke.

Sevilla-level teams cannot play open football with Bayern-level teams. The only option is clear play in defense and quick counterattacks. This is the only way to beat Bayern. And Sevilla almost succeeded. But here the level of players affected.

[Juggy777]

There is no second Sevilla and no second Lopetegui. And if Sevilla managed to oppose Bayern, it does not mean that someone else can do so. It takes a couple of seasons to find a promotion for Bayern.

So you are seeing Sevilla better than teams like City, Real, Juve, PSG or Liverpool etc.? If Sevilla manages to bring Bayern into trouble, all these team can do it very well, too in my opinion. If you want to have a chance against Bayern, Sevillas tactic could be a good example how to approach the match. If you play such a high-risk formation like Schalke did last week with slow offensive full-backs against Gnabry and Sane, it's no wonder you concede 8 goals. I still see Bayern as the top-favourite for this years title but it won't be a walk in the park for them either. Not every team will be as chanceless as Barca or Schalke.

@Darkoth89 in my personal opinion this year Liverpool is a very strong contender to win the champions league, because not only have they retained their star player’s, but they have also made some wise additions too. Lastly if I had to pick a second team then I would definitely pick Bayern, but I’m also going to keep my eyes on Manchester City as I feel that Pep will deliver something big this season.

Source:

https://www.sentinelassam.com/sports-news/pep-guardiola-says-he-has-to-earn-new-man-city-contract-502632

[Naida_BR]

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

[masulum]

We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.

Exactly, If welook at the local strength, they have become a solid team. But, if we talk about UCL, it will be different for Bayern. In my opinion, Bayern were lucky at UCL last year because Madrid and Barcelona have a problem with their players. If they return to their best performance this season, it will also be tough for Bayern to be able to defend the trophy they won last season. Liverpool will return to improve their performance for UCL this season after failing to reach the final last season. don't forget about Man City who have improved in transfer window. I think this season will be hard for Bayern compared to last season in UCL competition

[babo]

Nowadays Barcelona is playing like a itialian team. Just trying to get no goal against and hoping that they score.

that's right, this type of game is very boring to me
I don't watch games to see the team win with a boring game
I watch games to have fun, this is my philosophy (very rugby style)

of course many ppl prefer see boring game (and beloved team win)

[3meek]

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

I remember how many people said at the last world championship that Germany would win the cup! What happened after the 1/8th all perfectly remember ...
That's why I also think that we shouldn't be 100% in the Bayern victory!

[LTU_btc]

So, today we have 3 2nd leg play-off games. Any thoughts about it?
Ferencvaros - Molde should be a great game. First game was really crazy, which ended 3:3. I was planning to go with Ferencvaros to qualify, but odds isn't very attractive, just 1.40.
Dynamo Kyiv - Genk. I'm backing Dynamo. They won away game and with new manager Lucescu they are playing really good football. While Genk are struggling so far - they are nearby by relegation zone in Belgium.
Omonia - Olympiakos. OLY is better team and they already have 2:0 score from first game. But I think they are going win tonight too to be 100% to reach group stage and avoid some drama in last minutes.

[kassex]

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

Real Madrid? A bad example: In the Champions League, Real Madrid will not be competitive for at least the next 2-3 years. Real Madrid can only count on La Liga, but even there it has serious competitors.

[dre1982]

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

Real Madrid? A bad example: In the Champions League, Real Madrid will not be competitive for at least the next 2-3 years. Real Madrid can only count on La Liga, but even there it has serious competitors.

Real Madrid isn't that good anymore since Christiano Ronaldo left. They have some goal players left but they don't have anyone for him in the place who made so much goals. The game against Ajax few years ago said enough. Left's hope Real will find their good shape back.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

Real Madrid? A bad example: In the Champions League, Real Madrid will not be competitive for at least the next 2-3 years. Real Madrid can only count on La Liga, but even there it has serious competitors.

I think it so. Even it is true for Barcelona too. They are not in their previous deadly position. It will take a few years for them to adjust. Koeman wants to reorganize the Barcelona team in a completely new way. I look forward to seeing Barcelona's previous offensive performance.

[dre1982]

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

Real Madrid? A bad example: In the Champions League, Real Madrid will not be competitive for at least the next 2-3 years. Real Madrid can only count on La Liga, but even there it has serious competitors.

I think it so. Even it is true for Barcelona too . They are not in their previous deadly position . It will take a few years for them to adjust .Koeman wants to reorganize the Barcelona team in a completely new way . I look forward to seeing Barcelona's previous offensive performance.

Koeman was the right coach to get the Dutch team back on track. After he become the coach the reached the finale of the Nation Legaue after a few years with qualifing for the Worl Cup/European Cup.

If he does the same for Barcelona, the prizes will come.

[Naida_BR]

We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.

Exactly, If welook at the local strength, they have become a solid team. But, if we talk about UCL, it will be different for Bayern. In my opinion, Bayern were lucky at UCL last year because Madrid and Barcelona have a problem with their players. If they return to their best performance this season, it will also be tough for Bayern to be able to defend the trophy they won last season. Liverpool will return to improve their performance for UCL this season after failing to reach the final last season. don't forget about Man City who have improved in transfer window. I think this season will be hard for Bayern compared to last season in UCL competition

Absolutely... And we should not forget what happened last season.
Bayern was on 4th position of the German league till January. After that they started increasing their performance rates and they reached to the Champions League win. Step-by-step happened... This year might be Barcelona, Real or Bayern but it is still very early to say that.

[Arcas]

I was surprised to see that from now on away and home games are being played. Does make it a lot fair. Yet those matches that were only 1 match were full of more spectacle.

[Pffrt]

I was surprised to see that from now on away and home games are being played. Does make it a lot fair. Yet those matches that were only 1 match were full of more spectacle.

There was no home or away matches in the last part of last UCL because of Covid19 and that was a fair decision of course since the UCL was postponed and there was not enough time to cover all the matches in that time.

[dre1982]

I was surprised to see that from now on away and home games are being played. Does make it a lot fair. Yet those matches that were only 1 match were full of more spectacle.

The 1 match only games were great. The away teams didn't went for just a draw to finish it at the home match. Now they had to fight for it directly. For the stage matches it's more fair to play home and away-games.

I doubt if all the games will be played now Covid-19 is on his way back in many countries around Europe.

[casperBGD]

it is getting interesting in Hungary, still 0:0 at the half time, and Ferencvaros is good with this result
i am quite amused that Molde is not trying to score, or they cannot score, but in the first half, there was no desire from their side to secure Champions league this season, and Ferencvaros is playing smart, defending the score that suits them

will be interesting second half, and maybe first group stage for Hungarian team

edit: Ferencvaros is in the group stage of Champions league, congrats

[Swordsoffreedom]

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

Real Madrid? A bad example: In the Champions League, Real Madrid will not be competitive for at least the next 2-3 years. Real Madrid can only count on La Liga, but even there it has serious competitors.

I think it so. Even it is true for Barcelona too . They are not in their previous deadly position . It will take a few years for them to adjust .Koeman wants to reorganize the Barcelona team in a completely new way . I look forward to seeing Barcelona's previous offensive performance.

Koeman was the right coach to get the Dutch team back on track. After he become the coach the reached the finale of the Nation Legaue after a few years with qualifing for the Worl Cup/European Cup.
If he does the same for Barcelona, the prizes will come.

Yeah Koeman is a good coach. I have no doubt about his abilities. But it is very difficult to win the league title without good striker. If Messi will leave Barcelona, who will play as his replacement? So, I think they should pick Messi's replacement in advance. On the other hand, Barcelona's defense is not so good. It also needs to change a bit. Otherwise it is not possible to win a match with a big team.

[Avirunes]

Yeah Koeman is a good coach. I have no doubt about his abilities. But it is very difficult to win the league title without good striker. If Messi will leave Barcelona, who will play as his replacement? So, I think they should pick Messi's replacement in advance. On the other hand, Barcelona's defense is not so good. It also needs to change a bit. Otherwise it is not possible to win a match with a big team.

Don't they have Griezmann? I know that they are playing him in wing positions but earlier he used to play in striker positions. IIRC I think he used to play as a striker in Atletico right?

Also there is Martin Braithwaite , not sure how good he is but have seen him in striker position while Setien was managing Barcelona.