⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[LTU_btc]

it is getting interesting in Hungary, still 0:0 at the half time, and Ferencvaros is good with this result
i am quite amused that Molde is not trying to score, or they cannot score, but in the first half, there was no desire from their side to secure Champions league this season, and Ferencvaros is playing smart, defending the score that suits them

will be interesting second half, and maybe first group stage for Hungarian team

edit: Ferencvaros is in the group stage of Champions league, congrats

Not the first time, but it was long time ago, it was in 95/96 season. Also, Debreceni VSC played in group stage in 2009/10 season. Ferencvaros is biggest club in Hungary, but they didn't qualified to Champions league for so long.
3 more games today. I'm pretty confident that RB Salzburg are in group stage already, despite that they won first game just 2:1.
Midtjylland - Slavia first game was very boring, I hope 2nd leg will be better because both teams are able to play nice attacking football.
And PAOK - Krasnodar should be interesting game. Krasnodar won first one, but PAOK scored important away goal.

[casperBGD]

it is getting interesting in Hungary, still 0:0 at the half time, and Ferencvaros is good with this result
i am quite amused that Molde is not trying to score, or they cannot score, but in the first half, there was no desire from their side to secure Champions league this season, and Ferencvaros is playing smart, defending the score that suits them

will be interesting second half, and maybe first group stage for Hungarian team

edit: Ferencvaros is in the group stage of Champions league, congrats

Not the first time, but it was long time ago, it was in 95/96 season. Also, Debreceni VSC played in group stage in 2009/10 season. Ferencvaros is biggest club in Hungary, but they didn't qualified to Champions league for so long.

yeah, you are right, that was before more teams from one country are introduced to Champions league, so it was easier for a team from smaller countries to reach group stage, now it is a lot harder
nevertheless, good to point out that they were already part of CL group stage

and they will be bottom listed, as team with smallest coefficient in group stage

[coinlocket$]

Tomorrow will be the X Day

Pot 1

Bayern (GER, UEFA Champions League holders)
Sevilla (ESP, UEFA Europa League holders)
Real Madrid (ESP)
Liverpool (ENG)
Juventus (ITA)
Paris (FRA)
Zenit (RUS)
Porto (POR)

Pot 2

Barcelona (ESP) coefficient 128.000
Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 127.000
Manchester City (ENG) 116.000
Manchester United (ENG) 100.000
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 85.000
Dortmund (GER) 85.000
Chelsea (ENG) 83.000
Ajax (NED) 69.500

Pot 3 or 4

Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)* 55.000
RB Leipzig (GER) 49.000
Internazionale Milano (ITA) 44.000
Olympiacos (GRE)* 43.000
Lazio (ITA) 41.000
Atalanta (ITA) 33.500
Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) 33.000
Marseille (FRA) 31.000
Club Brugge (BEL) 28.500
Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) 26.000
İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR) 21.500
Rennes (FRA) 14.000
Ferencváros (HUN)* 9.000


Source: https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0261-106335962c10-b277239a781a-1000--champions-league-group-stage-draw-all-you-need-to-know/

[Daniel91]

it is getting interesting in Hungary, still 0:0 at the half time, and Ferencvaros is good with this result
i am quite amused that Molde is not trying to score, or they cannot score, but in the first half, there was no desire from their side to secure Champions league this season, and Ferencvaros is playing smart, defending the score that suits them

will be interesting second half, and maybe first group stage for Hungarian team

edit: Ferencvaros is in the group stage of Champions league, congrats

Not the first time, but it was long time ago, it was in 95/96 season. Also, Debreceni VSC played in group stage in 2009/10 season. Ferencvaros is biggest club in Hungary, but they didn't qualified to Champions league for so long.

yeah, you are right, that was before more teams from one country are introduced to Champions league, so it was easier for a team from smaller countries to reach group stage, now it is a lot harder
nevertheless, good to point out that they were already part of CL group stage

and they will be bottom listed, as team with smallest coefficient in group stage

In fact, by the end of the 1980s and while there was still a rule about a maximum of three foreign players at the club, many small clubs like Steaua, Zvezda and others had the chance to win the Champions League..
Today, something like that has become an impossible mission and always the same 6 or 7 clubs are favourites to win the Champions League every year.
Big clubs would even like their own European Super League in which small clubs and countries would not have access.
Football romance died a long time ago and today it's all about money.

[3meek]

I think that today's match PAOK - Krasnodar will win the home team! And they will be able to get the group stage! Especially since they managed to score a guest goal!
I bet on the victory of PAOK with an rate 2.1...

[Swordsoffreedom]

Yeah Koeman is a good coach. I have no doubt about his abilities. But it is very difficult to win the league title without good striker. If Messi will leave Barcelona, who will play as his replacement? So, I think they should pick Messi's replacement in advance. On the other hand, Barcelona's defense is not so good. It also needs to change a bit. Otherwise it is not possible to win a match with a big team.

Don't they have Griezmann? I know that they are playing him in wing positions but earlier he used to play in striker positions. IIRC I think he used to play as a striker in Atletico right?
Also there is Martin Braithwaite , not sure how good he is but have seen him in striker position while Setien was managing Barcelona.

Griezman is a good striker. He has some great skill. Personally, I like him. But I don't know why Koeman didn't giving him a chance to play forward with Messi. Koeman could have arranged the formation to 3-2-3-2.
Martin Braithwaite is not bad player. But I don't think he deserves to play in the forward position of a big team like Barcelona. He needs to work harder.

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Football romance died a long time ago and today it's all about money.

I agree with your thought bro. We are always waiting to see the big team’s match. Football is totally dependent on money. If there is a rule like 1980, I think there will be some stability in all the teams of the club.

[boltz]

What is going on today ? Slavia praga has almost 3 odd to win tonight and for me this looks like even a bait odd or a free winning odd but I don't know which one yet haha. PAOK might have a hard game today as Krasnodar has a bigger experience into UEFA games so this might be a winning factor for them.

[buwaytress]

Football romance died a long time ago and today it's all about money.

In general I do agree with the problem of money but I'm not much moaning about it -- I think even in the 1990s already people were saying romance died in football a long time ago, and there's always this generational shift about attitudes and that's just humans being nostalgic.

What I don't agree with is that romance died. It's perhaps harder to see, and harder to achieve but in a sense that only makes the success stories even more romantic. Leicester winning the title? Bloody hell. Guy plays non league football to appearing in Champions League.

And the international transfers allowed us to see Ronaldo on the big stage. Imagine if he got stuck playing in Portugal.

Or Robertson still being a parking attendant 5 years ago and moaning on Twitter about needing more money haha.

I do think the money in football needs to be stemmed. And maybe Covid will force it to change... but it's not all bad. The romances are getting rarer, but oh, so much sweeter.

[kassex]

I believe more in Atletico Madrid's success in the Champions League than Real Madrid or Barcelona, ​​but whether Simeone's team will have enough patience this time around is unknown.

[DeathAngel]

I believe more in Atletico Madrid's success in the Champions League than Real Madrid or Barcelona, ​​but whether Simeone's team will have enough patience this time around is unknown.

Atletico don’t play an expansive game of football. They defend, defend, defend! The winner of the CL is usually a progressive, attacking team. I don’t think Atleti will come even close to being champion of Europe.

[Trofo]

I do think the money in football needs to be stemmed. And maybe Covid will force it to change... but it's not all bad. The romances are getting rarer, but oh, so much sweeter.

It needs to be regulated for sure. Financial fair play is a joke and everybody knows it, just check the "exchange" of players between Barca and Juve or the fine City got instead of CL disqualification. I don't like Mourinho an d his media outbursts in general but he had a great comment on that fine. I will now paraphrase it since I don't feel like looking for a exact quote. He said something on line that "City fine is a disgrace. Either you are guilty and disqualified or you are not guilty and you should not pay any fine." I agree with that 100%. This way it just shows that it is all about money.

I believe more in Atletico Madrid's success in the Champions League than Real Madrid or Barcelona, ​​but whether Simeone's team will have enough patience this time around is unknown.

Atletico don’t play an expansive game of football. They defend, defend, defend! The winner of the CL is usually a progressive, attacking team. I don’t think Atleti will come even close to being champion of Europe.

They are hands down most boring team to watch park the bus play but I hope Suarez signing will change that at least a bit. Their last game was a goal fest and I will check them out tonight to see how they look. There could be some great money made on both to score markets if they decide to play more open and all those bookie algorithms need a month or two before catching up and changing the odds.

[3meek]

I believe more in Atletico Madrid's success in the Champions League than Real Madrid or Barcelona, ​​but whether Simeone's team will have enough patience this time around is unknown.

I also consider Atletico to be a strong team in La Liga, and I also wish it to win the Champions League! In any case, I think she will play at least 1/4!

What is going on today ? Slavia praga has almost 3 odd to win tonight and for me this looks like even a bait odd or a free winning odd but I don't know which one yet haha. PAOK might have a hard game today as Krasnodar has a bigger experience into UEFA games so this might be a winning factor for them.

I don't think that Krasnodar win today!

[ShowOff]

They are hands down most boring team to watch park the bus play but I hope Suarez signing will change that at least a bit.

Yaps, Suarez will make a difference to Atletico Madrid's attacking pattern. As one of Laliga's great team, Atletico Madrid can always be seeded over other teams but they have a style of play that doesn't reflect that they are a big team. They have good defensive skill and are often a bit boring, they play carefully and rely on counter attack. I don't think they'll win the Champion League, but they can still be counted as candidate.

[buwaytress]

I do think the money in football needs to be stemmed. And maybe Covid will force it to change... but it's not all bad. The romances are getting rarer, but oh, so much sweeter.

It needs to be regulated for sure. Financial fair play is a joke and everybody knows it, just check the "exchange" of players between Barca and Juve or the fine City got instead of CL disqualification. I don't like Mourinho an d his media outbursts in general but he had a great comment on that fine. I will now paraphrase it since I don't feel like looking for a exact quote. He said something on line that "City fine is a disgrace. Either you are guilty and disqualified or you are not guilty and you should not pay any fine." I agree with that 100%. This way it just shows that it is all about money.

Yeah I was questioning that a lot before too, and I think there isn't a single person in this forum who is on City's side here (in fact hmm, I can't even recall a single City supporter in the forum haha).

You're guilty or you're not, I absolutely agree. You got fined, and still have the gall to say you proved your innocence. Money is king in football, very unfortunate. Blame the plastic fans too though, egging their clubs on social media to go and sign some star. Imagine, United fans angry for not spending (and they spent!). Or #wengerout because he won't splash.

And even some Liverpool fans questioning why no big spends before they found out about Jota or Thiago. Minamino and Kostas too cheap to turn heads. Youngsters from academy not glamourous enough.

[Smartvirus]

Yeah I was questioning that a lot before too, and I think there isn't a single person in this forum who is on City's side here (in fact hmm, I can't even recall a single City supporter in the forum haha).

In a match between a mid tier team and a big team either club or Nation, it's always common that, you hope for a surprise from the mid tier team. You'll always want the mid tier team to win, if possible, humiliate the big team.
That's if you haven't placed your bet on it though, lol.

[LTU_btc]

What is going on today ? Slavia praga has almost 3 odd to win tonight and for me this looks like even a bait odd or a free winning odd but I don't know which one yet haha. PAOK might have a hard game today as Krasnodar has a bigger experience into UEFA games so this might be a winning factor for them.

So, Slavia lost game 4:1. But I don't think that final score reflects game very well. 2 lasts goals were scored on last minutes when Slavia tried to equalize score.
PAOK lost to Krasnodar with same score as in 1st game. Didn't watched whole game but seems that Krasnodar deserved to reach group stage.
Tomorrow is big day when groups will be drawn.

[3meek]

What is going on today ? Slavia praga has almost 3 odd to win tonight and for me this looks like even a bait odd or a free winning odd but I don't know which one yet haha. PAOK might have a hard game today as Krasnodar has a bigger experience into UEFA games so this might be a winning factor for them.

So, Slavia lost game 4:1. But I don't think that final score reflects game very well. 2 lasts goals were scored on last minutes when Slavia tried to equalize score.
PAOK lost to Krasnodar with same score as in 1st game. Didn't watched whole game but seems that Krasnodar deserved to reach group stage.
Tomorrow is big day when groups will be drawn.

Krasnodar showed a good and confident game and I lost together with PAOK...
But I am still happy that another Russian club will play in the Champions League! Especially since this is the first time Krasnodar will play in the league!

[dre1982]

What is going on today ? Slavia praga has almost 3 odd to win tonight and for me this looks like even a bait odd or a free winning odd but I don't know which one yet haha. PAOK might have a hard game today as Krasnodar has a bigger experience into UEFA games so this might be a winning factor for them.

So, Slavia lost game 4:1. But I don't think that final score reflects game very well. 2 lasts goals were scored on last minutes when Slavia tried to equalize score.
PAOK lost to Krasnodar with same score as in 1st game. Didn't watched whole game but seems that Krasnodar deserved to reach group stage.
Tomorrow is big day when groups will be drawn.

I am excited about the draw. Wondering who will be the opponents of my club Ajax. Let's hope there will be some nice matches for them.

I don't expect them to get that far this time but #2 should be possible.

[babo]

They are hands down most boring team to watch park the bus play but I hope Suarez signing will change that at least a bit.

Yaps, Suarez will make a difference to Atletico Madrid's attacking pattern. As one of Laliga's great team, Atletico Madrid can always be seeded over other teams but they have a style of play that doesn't reflect that they are a big team. They have good defensive skill and are often a bit boring, they play carefully and rely on counter attack. I don't think they'll win the Champion League, but they can still be counted as candidate.

I really like the Spanish style of play, very much devoted to the show!
I hope that Atletico Madrid do well and that Barcelona recover some light of past. I love so much the show and i hope to see in next champions.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I really like the Spanish style of play, very much devoted to the show!
I hope that Atletico Madrid do well and that Barcelona recover some light of past. I love so much the show and i hope to see in next champions.

Football seems to go in cycles, Spanish teams dominated Europe for a number of years. They’re not as strong now, I think Bayern & Liverpool, possibly PSG are the teams to look out for in the CL for the next couple of seasons.