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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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December 27, 2021, 07:12:19 PM
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By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.

I would question that a little bit. Bayern are a strong competitor for the Champions League, Manchester City are also a competitor, but less dangerous than Bayern. It's hard to say about PSG, I can't consider them a competitor because they seemed formidable before, but they could have lost in the final against Bayern, although they fought decently in the final. Let's see how they do in the playoffs, it's hard to say what to expect from them yet

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December 27, 2021, 07:15:39 PM
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By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.

I would question that a little bit. Bayern are a strong competitor for the Champions League, Manchester City are also a competitor, but less dangerous than Bayern. It's hard to say about PSG, I can't consider them a competitor because they seemed formidable before, but they could have lost in the final against Bayern, although they fought decently in the final. Let's see how they do in the playoffs, it's hard to say what to expect from them yet

If you were to look at the beginning of the season, I would certainly agree with that. Paris Saint Germain made a mediocre impression on me. I think Bayern Munich and Manchester City are still on a different level. PSG can beat anyone but can also go out against a lesser team. Dream final would be Bayern against City. that's 50-50 as far as I'm concerned. You also have to draw favorably. PSG can also just be eliminated against Real Madrid. That must be close to 50-50 who advances to the next round.

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December 27, 2021, 07:17:42 PM
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One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

I didn't even think it was possible for Chelsea to become champions last year, but they did. They are really very disciplined. I'm not giving the same odds this year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they become champions again. Currently in the premier league. It's really difficult for Chelsea to become champions this year. PSG and Manchester city will really push all opponents.

Especially because Chelsea have been experiencing a bad period these days, I don't expect them to surprise us once more. I accept that they were really good at especially defending much bigger opponents. In the final round, they were really good at it against Manchester City. But this time, I really expect that PSG or Manchester City will be reaching the title finally. They both are deserving it and we will see which one of them makes it.
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December 27, 2021, 07:26:40 PM
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Pep Guardiola deserves it at Manchester City.
They have really gone that far, and couldn't clinch it.
They should be winners at the end of the Champions League this term if they successfully surpass the semi finals

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December 27, 2021, 07:51:24 PM
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Pep Guardiola deserves it at Manchester City.
They have really gone that far, and couldn't clinch it.
They should be winners at the end of the Champions League this term if they successfully surpass the semi finals

To be honest, I would also really like to see Guardiola winning the Champions League title also before he leaves his current job at the team. Because he said something about leaving in the near future. Manchester City are one of the most deserving teams when it comes to this title. Their closest moment to the title was in the last season but Chelsea somehow got the title. Maybe this is their turn.
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December 27, 2021, 07:56:49 PM
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By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.

I would question that a little bit. Bayern are a strong competitor for the Champions League, Manchester City are also a competitor, but less dangerous than Bayern. It's hard to say about PSG, I can't consider them a competitor because they seemed formidable before, but they could have lost in the final against Bayern, although they fought decently in the final. Let's see how they do in the playoffs, it's hard to say what to expect from them yet

If you were to look at the beginning of the season, I would certainly agree with that. Paris Saint Germain made a mediocre impression on me. I think Bayern Munich and Manchester City are still on a different level. PSG can beat anyone but can also go out against a lesser team. Dream final would be Bayern against City. that's 50-50 as far as I'm concerned. You also have to draw favorably. PSG can also just be eliminated against Real Madrid. That must be close to 50-50 who advances to the next round.

If Manchester City face Bayern in the final (highly unlikely but I suppose...) I'd rather bet on Bayern than City, the latter obviously have a much better chance but it will be a very tense match for both teams. About PSG I agree with you, they should get past the 1/8 finals now, I think it'll be a problem for them...

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December 27, 2021, 07:58:22 PM
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Especially because Chelsea have been experiencing a bad period these days, I don't expect them to surprise us once more. I accept that they were really good at especially defending much bigger opponents. In the final round, they were really good at it against Manchester City. But this time, I really expect that PSG or Manchester City will be reaching the title finally. They both are deserving it and we will see which one of them makes it.
I've decided not to rate the champions league clubs based on their respective league forms for a variety of reasons. I believe the champions league has its own spirit, as evidenced by the fact that some clubs only perform well in the competition. Last season, Chelsea finished fourth in the Premier League and won the Champions League and Super Cup.

If you look at the caliber of players and the depth of their squads, PSG, Manchester City, and Bayern are always the favorites, but football is played on the field, not on paper.

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December 27, 2021, 08:05:51 PM
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Especially because Chelsea have been experiencing a bad period these days, I don't expect them to surprise us once more. I accept that they were really good at especially defending much bigger opponents. In the final round, they were really good at it against Manchester City. But this time, I really expect that PSG or Manchester City will be reaching the title finally. They both are deserving it and we will see which one of them makes it.
I've decided not to rate the champions league clubs based on their respective league forms for a variety of reasons. I believe the champions league has its own spirit, as evidenced by the fact that some clubs only perform well in the competition. Last season, Chelsea finished fourth in the Premier League and won the Champions League and Super Cup.

If you look at the caliber of players and the depth of their squads, PSG, Manchester City, and Bayern are always the favorites, but football is played on the field, not on paper.
Absolutely right currently no one can predict about any winner because we have some long time and many changes and other aspects can happen with teams about favourite we all know PSG, Bayern and Manchester City all-time favourites for this competition in every season but at the end we have many big upsets, so currently It's still possible any team from these 16 teams win this season's title. Liverpool, Real Madrid and Ajax these teams have very good outsider chance for winning, but now it's all about on play day who is going to do good for win and how he is going to managing things on field.

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December 27, 2021, 08:13:31 PM
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By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.

I would question that a little bit. Bayern are a strong competitor for the Champions League, Manchester City are also a competitor, but less dangerous than Bayern. It's hard to say about PSG, I can't consider them a competitor because they seemed formidable before, but they could have lost in the final against Bayern, although they fought decently in the final. Let's see how they do in the playoffs, it's hard to say what to expect from them yet

If you were to look at the beginning of the season, I would certainly agree with that. Paris Saint Germain made a mediocre impression on me. I think Bayern Munich and Manchester City are still on a different level. PSG can beat anyone but can also go out against a lesser team. Dream final would be Bayern against City. that's 50-50 as far as I'm concerned. You also have to draw favorably. PSG can also just be eliminated against Real Madrid. That must be close to 50-50 who advances to the next round.

If Manchester City face Bayern in the final (highly unlikely but I suppose...) I'd rather bet on Bayern than City, the latter obviously have a much better chance but it will be a very tense match for both teams. About PSG I agree with you, they should get past the 1/8 finals now, I think it'll be a problem for them...

I don't know if this will happen because I am now more inclined to Liverpool if not Real Madrid and Munich.
City is a pretty good club but now liverpool and even madrid can still make some pretty good results there.
Talking about PSG I actually really like their current composition but UCL is quite a different game to Ligue 1

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December 27, 2021, 08:49:22 PM
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Pep Guardiola deserves it at Manchester City.
They have really gone that far, and couldn't clinch it.
They should be winners at the end of the Champions League this term if they successfully surpass the semi finals

If they reach finals again this time they would win the trophy. We know historically teams are having hard times in their first final. We don't see a team won Champions League trophy in their first final. Experience is the key factor here.
Sporting CP is a very good team but Manchester City is on another level. We can say they will pass to quarter final fairly easier than others. Draw chance is also important, they may pick easier opponents. Unless they get PSG or Bayern they will always be the favorite.

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December 27, 2021, 10:24:54 PM
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Draw chance is also important, they may pick easier opponents.

The rules have changed this year, for draws and away/home goals.
It seems that it is now irrelevant whether they score away goals or concede goals at home. What counts is the sum of goals, no matter how many you score away from home or at home. Whoever scores the most goals passes.
Therefore, the games may become more interesting in the first leg, where both teams certainly want to score a goal at any opportunity.
Of course the weaker teams will continue to aim for a draw, and for a more counterattack game.

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Pep Guardiola deserves it at Manchester City.
They have really gone that far, and couldn't clinch it.
They should be winners at the end of the Champions League this term if they successfully surpass the semi finals
To be honest, I would also really like to see Guardiola winning the Champions League title also before he leaves his current job at the team. Because he said something about leaving in the near future. Manchester City are one of the most deserving teams when it comes to this title. Their closest moment to the title was in the last season but Chelsea somehow got the title. Maybe this is their turn.
City will pass Sporting but they have fierce opponents. I think if Bayern, Inter and Liverpool will be eliminated before facing City then Guardiola might lift the trophy with the team finally this year. I don't see the others as a real threat to City right now.

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Pep Guardiola deserves it at Manchester City. They have really gone that far, and couldn't clinch it. They should be winners at the end of the Champions League this term if they successfully surpass the semi finals
To be honest, I would also really like to see Guardiola winning the Champions League title also before he leaves his current job at the team. Because he said something about leaving in the near future. Manchester City are one of the most deserving teams when it comes to this title. Their closest moment to the title was in the last season but Chelsea somehow got the title. Maybe this is their turn.
City will pass Sporting but they have fierce opponents. I think if Bayern, Inter and Liverpool will be eliminated before facing City then Guardiola might lift the trophy with the team finally this year. I don't see the others as a real threat to City right now.
Manchester City looks like a very serious candidate to win the Champions League this season, but the cup system has its own peculiarities and any strongest favorite can play an unsuccessful individual match and end up in the tournament. Pep Guardiola is a great master in the systematic construction of teams that achieve results over a long distance, but even such a master does not always manage to do it in cup competitions, which is the Champions League. This was demonstrated by the example in the final with Chelsea, when the club could not take the decisive step and win a particular individual match. On the other hand, it gives hope that this will happen to the club in the end. Another question is whether the coach will survive until this moment, knowing that Guardiola does not like to work in one place for a long time and wants to take on new challenges.
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Pep Guardiola deserves it at Manchester City. They have really gone that far, and couldn't clinch it. They should be winners at the end of the Champions League this term if they successfully surpass the semi finals
To be honest, I would also really like to see Guardiola winning the Champions League title also before he leaves his current job at the team. Because he said something about leaving in the near future. Manchester City are one of the most deserving teams when it comes to this title. Their closest moment to the title was in the last season but Chelsea somehow got the title. Maybe this is their turn.
City will pass Sporting but they have fierce opponents. I think if Bayern, Inter and Liverpool will be eliminated before facing City then Guardiola might lift the trophy with the team finally this year. I don't see the others as a real threat to City right now.
Manchester City looks like a very serious candidate to win the Champions League this season, but the cup system has its own peculiarities and any strongest favorite can play an unsuccessful individual match and end up in the tournament. Pep Guardiola is a great master in the systematic construction of teams that achieve results over a long distance, but even such a master does not always manage to do it in cup competitions, which is the Champions League. This was demonstrated by the example in the final with Chelsea, when the club could not take the decisive step and win a particular individual match. On the other hand, it gives hope that this will happen to the club in the end. Another question is whether the coach will survive until this moment, knowing that Guardiola does not like to work in one place for a long time and wants to take on new challenges.

I believe that Pep is only waiting to win the champions league before calling quits on Manchester City, and as a Manchester United fan I need him to leave quickly, because City are currently unplayable under him.

Furthermore last time City chocked under pressure, but if they reach the finals again then there’s no excuse for them not to win it, but at least let them reach the semi final before we can declare that they’ll win the champions league.
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December 28, 2021, 08:03:42 AM
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Pep Guardiola deserves it at Manchester City. They have really gone that far, and couldn't clinch it. They should be winners at the end of the Champions League this term if they successfully surpass the semi finals
To be honest, I would also really like to see Guardiola winning the Champions League title also before he leaves his current job at the team. Because he said something about leaving in the near future. Manchester City are one of the most deserving teams when it comes to this title. Their closest moment to the title was in the last season but Chelsea somehow got the title. Maybe this is their turn.
City will pass Sporting but they have fierce opponents. I think if Bayern, Inter and Liverpool will be eliminated before facing City then Guardiola might lift the trophy with the team finally this year. I don't see the others as a real threat to City right now.
Manchester City looks like a very serious candidate to win the Champions League this season, but the cup system has its own peculiarities and any strongest favorite can play an unsuccessful individual match and end up in the tournament. Pep Guardiola is a great master in the systematic construction of teams that achieve results over a long distance, but even such a master does not always manage to do it in cup competitions, which is the Champions League. This was demonstrated by the example in the final with Chelsea, when the club could not take the decisive step and win a particular individual match. On the other hand, it gives hope that this will happen to the club in the end. Another question is whether the coach will survive until this moment, knowing that Guardiola does not like to work in one place for a long time and wants to take on new challenges.

I believe that Pep is only waiting to win the champions league before calling quits on Manchester City, and as a Manchester United fan I need him to leave quickly, because City are currently unplayable under him.

Furthermore last time City chocked under pressure, but if they reach the finals again then there’s no excuse for them not to win it, but at least let them reach the semi final before we can declare that they’ll win the champions league.
I second you on this one! Manchester city are just in a world of their own under Peps reign and if this is true that he will only retire after a champions league trophy then he has to meet a team like Bayern Munich in the semis to leave them with a much weaker opponent otherwise this is a tougher campaign than the last which the missed out when they made it to the finals.

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I second you on this one! Manchester city are just in a world of their own under Peps reign and if this is true that he will only retire after a champions league trophy then he has to meet a team like Bayern Munich in the semis to leave them with a much weaker opponent otherwise this is a tougher campaign than the last which the missed out when they made it to the finals.

Pep Guardiola is too young to retire. If you say that he will only leave Man City after he manages to win a Champions League, I believe. If he continues with his good performances, he has everything to stay at the club until the big victory in the Champions League.

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I second you on this one! Manchester city are just in a world of their own under Peps reign and if this is true that he will only retire after a champions league trophy then he has to meet a team like Bayern Munich in the semis to leave them with a much weaker opponent otherwise this is a tougher campaign than the last which the missed out when they made it to the finals.

Pep Guardiola is too young to retire. If you say that he will only leave Man City after he manages to win a Champions League, I believe. If he continues with his good performances, he has everything to stay at the club until the big victory in the Champions League.
Yes, Pep is too young to retire and if I'm not mistaken Pep's own contract with Manchester City will expire at the end of the 2023 season. That way, I personally believe that Pep will still be the coach of Manchester City during that period of time and will not decide to retire. I personally don't believe Pep will leave or retire after giving Manchester City the UCL title, at least there will always be offers from other clubs who want his services and this is not the exact time for Pep to retire.

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December 28, 2021, 10:25:30 AM
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I second you on this one! Manchester city are just in a world of their own under Peps reign and if this is true that he will only retire after a champions league trophy then he has to meet a team like Bayern Munich in the semis to leave them with a much weaker opponent otherwise this is a tougher campaign than the last which the missed out when they made it to the finals.

Pep Guardiola is too young to retire. If you say that he will only leave Man City after he manages to win a Champions League, I believe. If he continues with his good performances, he has everything to stay at the club until the big victory in the Champions League.
Yes, Pep is too young to retire and if I'm not mistaken Pep's own contract with Manchester City will expire at the end of the 2023 season. That way, I personally believe that Pep will still be the coach of Manchester City during that period of time and will not decide to retire. I personally don't believe Pep will leave or retire after giving Manchester City the UCL title, at least there will always be offers from other clubs who want his services and this is not the exact time for Pep to retire.

In any case, Pep has one goal with this team and that is to win the Champions League. it seems unlikely that he will leave early or have his contract terminated. And where would Pep still want to go? in terms of strength, only Bayern Munich comes close to City, the rest are quite behind. Psg would be a challenge because of its decent players and reunion with Messi, but I don't see any reason for him to leave.

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December 28, 2021, 01:54:02 PM
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I second you on this one! Manchester city are just in a world of their own under Peps reign and if this is true that he will only retire after a champions league trophy then he has to meet a team like Bayern Munich in the semis to leave them with a much weaker opponent otherwise this is a tougher campaign than the last which the missed out when they made it to the finals.

Pep Guardiola is too young to retire. If you say that he will only leave Man City after he manages to win a Champions League, I believe. If he continues with his good performances, he has everything to stay at the club until the big victory in the Champions League.

Pep was already retiring on a temporary basis when Real Mourinho questioned Barcelona's hegemony and won the championship. At the time, this was explained by back problems, but then Pep quickly found a new superclub and since then his back has not hurt, haha ) I wonder if Pep will have an ultimately strong competitor in the English championship, will he go back to another championship or will he stay?
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Almost every team in this round is strong. It is difficult to predict which team will advance to the next round. In particular, you said that Madrid has a chance to play in the final. However, Madrid's opponent in this round is PSG. Winning against a strong team like PSG is not easy for Madrid. PSG's goal is to win the Champions League. They have taken star players with lots of wages only for the Champions League.

Yes, PSG are chasing the champions trophy for the first time in the history of the club, facing Madrid is certainly like the final that is too early. Having a star player, should be able to give good results for PSG in the UCL, however, we also need to pay attention to Madrid's current position which can maintain the positive trend they have had since the start of the season. Both in the UCL and in La-Liga, madrid has the dominance in the match, this needs to be watched out for by PSG, based on this stats, my prediction is Madrid will be able to qualify for the next phase, even with a thin aggregate goal. of course, stats is nothing, who have better playing scheme, they will be the winner.

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