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December 30, 2021, 04:22:04 AM
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Maybe the matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is not between the biggest candidates of the CL title. But they are still strong teams on paper. On the other hand, their recent forms have been not very satisfying. Atletico Madrid have lost so many points in the La Liga lately and they barely advanced to this round of the CL. And Manchester United couldn't even defeat Newcastle last. But there is still a long time for this matchup. Things could change but I'll still be favoring the Red Devils.
Just joke team on champion league I think between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United, who ever pass to next stage I think winning from this match never success pass to semi final and not really trusted with Manchester United or Atletico Madrid performance on champion league, exactly with Atletico Madrid need last match on group stage can pass to 16 round and lucky where AC Milan defeat by Liverpool and pass from group stage based on Liverpool performance.

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December 30, 2021, 04:50:25 AM
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Just joke team on champion league I think between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United, who ever pass to next stage I think winning from this match never success pass to semi final and not really trusted with Manchester United or Atletico Madrid performance on champion league, exactly with Atletico Madrid need last match on group stage can pass to 16 round and lucky where AC Milan defeat by Liverpool and pass from group stage based on Liverpool performance.
It's a thing of the past although it's also not wrong to look back, but if you look at all the teams that have qualified for the Champions League round of 16, all of them are extraordinary teams with different experiences, so while looking forward to the match in mid-February (16 - 02 - 2022), what are your predictions for PSG vs Real Madrid ?

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December 30, 2021, 05:42:53 AM
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Maybe the matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is not between the biggest candidates of the CL title. But they are still strong teams on paper. On the other hand, their recent forms have been not very satisfying. Atletico Madrid have lost so many points in the La Liga lately and they barely advanced to this round of the CL. And Manchester United couldn't even defeat Newcastle last. But there is still a long time for this matchup. Things could change but I'll still be favoring the Red Devils.
Yes, when viewed from the league, they both got unsatisfactory results. But in UCL matches, teams usually show surprises. Moreover, Atletico several times had their way tripped by the same person, Cristiano Ronaldo who is now defending Manchester United. This is not only a match between teams, but also a rivalry of 2 men, Diego Simeone and Cristiano Ronaldo, and that will be an interesting part of the match later.

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December 30, 2021, 06:02:37 AM
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Maybe the matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is not between the biggest candidates of the CL title. But they are still strong teams on paper. On the other hand, their recent forms have been not very satisfying. Atletico Madrid have lost so many points in the La Liga lately and they barely advanced to this round of the CL. And Manchester United couldn't even defeat Newcastle last. But there is still a long time for this matchup. Things could change but I'll still be favoring the Red Devils.
Yes, when viewed from the league, they both got unsatisfactory results. But in UCL matches, teams usually show surprises. Moreover, Atletico several times had their way tripped by the same person, Cristiano Ronaldo who is now defending Manchester United. This is not only a match between teams, but also a rivalry of 2 men, Diego Simeone and Cristiano Ronaldo, and that will be an interesting part of the match later.
If you observe closely, you will notice that Manchester United performance in the Champion League group stage was quite impressive. They won 3, drew 2 and lost 1 match. Although, United performance in the Premier League are poor. They struggle to win most of their matches, and they were not able to beat weak Newcastle. While Atletico Madrid only won 2 matches in the Group stage, and are currently in a terrible form. However, no team is weak in the Champion League. Honestly, I don't know who will win between Atletico Madrid Vs Manchester United. But, United seems the favorite here, and are likely to win with a goal difference.



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December 30, 2021, 06:10:46 AM
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Just joke team on champion league I think between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United, who ever pass to next stage I think winning from this match never success pass to semi final and not really trusted with Manchester United or Atletico Madrid performance on champion league, exactly with Atletico Madrid need last match on group stage can pass to 16 round and lucky where AC Milan defeat by Liverpool and pass from group stage based on Liverpool performance.
It's a thing of the past although it's also not wrong to look back, but if you look at all the teams that have qualified for the Champions League round of 16, all of them are extraordinary teams with different experiences, so while looking forward to the match in mid-February (16 - 02 - 2022), what are your predictions for PSG vs Real Madrid ?
Regarding PSG v Madrid, for me personally this is an easy prediction and it looks like Madrid will win or at least the team that is very likely to qualify for the next round. But about Atletico v Manchester United I agree, even though one of them will qualify but in the end they are like a team that will surely fall in the next round. Both are still not at their best at the moment so yes, Atletico and Manchester United have the same chance because they are currently like a balanced team.

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December 30, 2021, 06:31:04 AM
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Just joke team on champion league I think between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United, who ever pass to next stage I think winning from this match never success pass to semi final and not really trusted with Manchester United or Atletico Madrid performance on champion league, exactly with Atletico Madrid need last match on group stage can pass to 16 round and lucky where AC Milan defeat by Liverpool and pass from group stage based on Liverpool performance.
It's a thing of the past although it's also not wrong to look back, but if you look at all the teams that have qualified for the Champions League round of 16, all of them are extraordinary teams with different experiences, so while looking forward to the match in mid-February (16 - 02 - 2022), what are your predictions for PSG vs Real Madrid ?
Regarding PSG v Madrid, for me personally this is an easy prediction and it looks like Madrid will win or at least the team that is very likely to qualify for the next round. But about Atletico v Manchester United I agree, even though one of them will qualify but in the end they are like a team that will surely fall in the next round. Both are still not at their best at the moment so yes, Atletico and Manchester United have the same chance because they are currently like a balanced team.
I agree that Real Madrid have a greater chance of winning the game than Paris Saint-Germain. But that doesn't mean the game will be easy. Both teams have big-name players. I prefer to see how the coaches of both teams apply the strategy in the next match, and take advantage of every position they have.

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December 30, 2021, 07:33:15 AM
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Maybe the matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is not between the biggest candidates of the CL title. But they are still strong teams on paper. On the other hand, their recent forms have been not very satisfying. Atletico Madrid have lost so many points in the La Liga lately and they barely advanced to this round of the CL. And Manchester United couldn't even defeat Newcastle last. But there is still a long time for this matchup. Things could change but I'll still be favoring the Red Devils.

The Red Devils are (were) unpredictable
I still remember the final against Bayern Munich, a team absent all the time that wakes up in the last 5 minutes, draws and wins the game without going to extra time

crazy thing, I was so stunned that I was afraid of the Red Devils for life

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December 30, 2021, 10:43:40 AM
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The Red Devils are (were) unpredictable
I still remember the final against Bayern Munich, a team absent all the time that wakes up in the last 5 minutes, draws and wins the game without going to extra time

crazy thing, I was so stunned that I was afraid of the Red Devils for life

So really I don't understand the reason for this post. That was over 22 years ago and Manchester United was extremely lucky back then. It wasn't skill or any special ability of the team, it was just luck. Bayern had two hundred percent chances in that game and didn't score. Actually it should have been 2-0 or 3-0. Since Bayern missed the chances and in addition played the last minutes unclever, ManU had the possibility to turn the game result at all.
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December 30, 2021, 10:50:02 AM
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The Red Devils are (were) unpredictable
I still remember the final against Bayern Munich, a team absent all the time that wakes up in the last 5 minutes, draws and wins the game without going to extra time

crazy thing, I was so stunned that I was afraid of the Red Devils for life

So really I don't understand the reason for this post. That was over 22 years ago and Manchester United was extremely lucky back then. It wasn't skill or any special ability of the team, it was just luck. Bayern had two hundred percent chances in that game and didn't score. Actually it should have been 2-0 or 3-0. Since Bayern missed the chances and in addition played the last minutes unclever, ManU had the possibility to turn the game result at all.

Red Devils are unpredictable in the soul...

the formation you have, the spirit you have .. it remains even if the players change and the years pass

see Atalanta, a team that I have been following for at least a decade or more
over the years it has maintained its humility and still builds not thinking of being a great team

-- its just an example, but the mentality and "spirit" of team remain
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another example, Inter
how many coaches, managers, bosses, players has he changed?
yet it always remains an inconclusive team (see CL)

look at Juventus, a team that has always thought only about money and the budget

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December 30, 2021, 11:20:21 AM
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I agree that Real Madrid have a greater chance of winning the game than Paris Saint-Germain. But that doesn't mean the game will be easy. Both teams have big-name players. I prefer to see how the coaches of both teams apply the strategy in the next match, and take advantage of every position they have.

I think the chances of both teams in this match are equal. Which team would we call weak here?

PSG will be stronger after Neymar returns from injury. At the same time Messi, Mbappe and Ramos are enough to beat Real Madrid. On the other hand, Real Madrid have the goal machine Benzema. And the young genius Vinicius. It's hard to keep them from scoring goals. Anything can happen in this match. However, the match will largely depend on the coach's strategy.

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December 30, 2021, 11:36:22 AM
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I agree that Real Madrid have a greater chance of winning the game than Paris Saint-Germain. But that doesn't mean the game will be easy. Both teams have big-name players. I prefer to see how the coaches of both teams apply the strategy in the next match, and take advantage of every position they have.

Real Madrid have a greater chance? I don't think so man. In fact, none of the teams in the PSG - Real Madrid matchup have a bigger chance than the other. Maybe PSG can be seen as one step ahead by many people and I think so too truthfully. However, these teams both have an equal chance to advance to the quarter final round actually. Because Real Madrid also are in a great condition this season. They also are powerful enough to move PSG out of their way. But there is a long time interval ahead and we will see what happens until then.

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December 30, 2021, 11:58:29 AM
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I agree that Real Madrid have a greater chance of winning the game than Paris Saint-Germain. But that doesn't mean the game will be easy. Both teams have big-name players. I prefer to see how the coaches of both teams apply the strategy in the next match, and take advantage of every position they have.

Real Madrid have a greater chance? I don't think so man. In fact, none of the teams in the PSG - Real Madrid matchup have a bigger chance than the other. Maybe PSG can be seen as one step ahead by many people and I think so too truthfully. However, these teams both have an equal chance to advance to the quarter final round actually. Because Real Madrid also are in a great condition this season. They also are powerful enough to move PSG out of their way. But there is a long time interval ahead and we will see what happens until then.
This match will certainly be quite fierce, especially in this case there are many factors that make the match even more worthy to watch, in addition to the return of Ramos and Lionel Messi to Bernabue as opponents with different costumes, of course the speculation of mbappe who wants to move to madrid will also make the match even more difficult heating up, the two teams are currently quite consistent in the league and it can be said they are safe enough to be at the top of the league, both teams have a squad that is quite capable and balanced and maybe the coach  tactics and strategies will be one factor for one of the teams to achieve victory, besides that, in my opinion, both teams should be able to minimize mistakes that might be made in the match, because if there was the slightest mistake, of course, one of the team would use it to win.
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December 30, 2021, 02:48:25 PM
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I agree that Real Madrid have a greater chance of winning the game than Paris Saint-Germain. But that doesn't mean the game will be easy. Both teams have big-name players. I prefer to see how the coaches of both teams apply the strategy in the next match, and take advantage of every position they have.

I think the chances of both teams in this match are equal. Which team would we call weak here?

PSG will be stronger after Neymar returns from injury. At the same time Messi, Mbappe and Ramos are enough to beat Real Madrid. On the other hand, Real Madrid have the goal machine Benzema. And the young genius Vinicius. It's hard to keep them from scoring goals. Anything can happen in this match. However, the match will largely depend on the coach's strategy.

I still haven't been able to understand PSG well
maybe someone knows him well and can tell me if the mix of talents is working well or not
I see too many first women in PSG and this is not good
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December 30, 2021, 02:58:53 PM
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I agree that Real Madrid have a greater chance of winning the game than Paris Saint-Germain. But that doesn't mean the game will be easy. Both teams have big-name players. I prefer to see how the coaches of both teams apply the strategy in the next match, and take advantage of every position they have.

I think the chances of both teams in this match are equal. Which team would we call weak here?

PSG will be stronger after Neymar returns from injury. At the same time Messi, Mbappe and Ramos are enough to beat Real Madrid. On the other hand, Real Madrid have the goal machine Benzema. And the young genius Vinicius. It's hard to keep them from scoring goals. Anything can happen in this match. However, the match will largely depend on the coach's strategy.
It is difficult to predict who will win in that match, now both teams have a fairly capable attack line and PSG may have a stronger defense than madrid, but the cohesiveness of madrid attackers in arranging attack schemes certainly deserves to be watched out for by the PSG defense,  I think these two big teams will play hard to beat each other and I agree that the coach experience and contribution in implementing the match strategy will certainly make the difference in this match.

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December 30, 2021, 03:59:15 PM
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I agree that Real Madrid have a greater chance of winning the game than Paris Saint-Germain. But that doesn't mean the game will be easy. Both teams have big-name players. I prefer to see how the coaches of both teams apply the strategy in the next match, and take advantage of every position they have.

Real Madrid have a greater chance? I don't think so man. In fact, none of the teams in the PSG - Real Madrid matchup have a bigger chance than the other. Maybe PSG can be seen as one step ahead by many people and I think so too truthfully. However, these teams both have an equal chance to advance to the quarter final round actually. Because Real Madrid also are in a great condition this season. They also are powerful enough to move PSG out of their way. But there is a long time interval ahead and we will see what happens until then.
Still early to predict which one potential pass to next round because pandemic covid 19 crisis make less out our prediction looking with many player have out from team list suddenly. I think if both have full team I think Madrid have bigger chance get pass to next stage looking how consistent Madrid in champion league depend PSG not consistent on every match. Not only with Ligue 1 PSG faced trouble on champion league and loss many points on group stage after defeating by Manchester City.

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December 30, 2021, 04:41:47 PM
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Maybe the matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is not between the biggest candidates of the CL title. But they are still strong teams on paper. On the other hand, their recent forms have been not very satisfying. Atletico Madrid have lost so many points in the La Liga lately and they barely advanced to this round of the CL. And Manchester United couldn't even defeat Newcastle last. But there is still a long time for this matchup. Things could change but I'll still be favoring the Red Devils.

It might not be a match between the Champions League title contenders, but at least it will be very interesting and many see Manchester United as favourites over Atlético de Madrid. At least that was the case immediately after the draw, I don't know how Atletico's players reacted, but they were clearly unhappy after the replay of the draw.

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December 30, 2021, 04:54:58 PM
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In my opinion, currently there are three strong teams that are candidates for champions champions this season, Liverpool, Manchester City and PSG, but among the three teams I think PSG and Manchester City are the most likely teams to win the Champions League, just like you,  I think the performances of the two teams were quite impressive this season and  which is the reason why I predict that one of the two teams will be able to get their first champions league trophy this season, but now PSG have left their opponents in the league with a pretty far point difference, and their has a greater focus  in champions league match than Manchester City which is now also the champion of the English Premier League half season.

these three teams had an extraordinary match in the group stage. On the other hand, currently City in the last 16 phase will face Sporting CP which in fact City will definitely be seeded.
But unlike PSG, maybe PSG is very good for Ligue 1 but I don't really expect that in the UCL.
They do have very good ability and their players are very dangerous in every line but their opponent is Real Madrid now.
Don't forget that Madrid is the most champions of the UCL at the moment, on the other hand I still feel that Madrid is better than PSG at the moment, especially in the UCL.

It's true that currently real madrid is the club that won the most champions league with 13 trophies, but this does not guarantee that they will easily beat PSG later, now PSG have many star players who are very experienced in the champions league like messi, Neymar, Donnarumma and even Sergio Ramos who is the former captain of Madrid, I think with the many star players available, of course PSG should not be underestimated by Madrid, especially since they are now the champions league trophy as the main focus this season and of course it will be a high motivation for PSG players to beat Madrid in the match .

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December 30, 2021, 06:39:13 PM
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Maybe the matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is not between the biggest candidates of the CL title. But they are still strong teams on paper. On the other hand, their recent forms have been not very satisfying. Atletico Madrid have lost so many points in the La Liga lately and they barely advanced to this round of the CL. And Manchester United couldn't even defeat Newcastle last. But there is still a long time for this matchup. Things could change but I'll still be favoring the Red Devils.
It might not be a match between the Champions League title contenders, but at least it will be very interesting and many see Manchester United as favourites over Atlético de Madrid. At least that was the case immediately after the draw, I don't know how Atletico's players reacted, but they were clearly unhappy after the replay of the draw.

If we compare the two teams, now neither team is in the form. No team has any hope or possibility of winning their own league title. Atletico Madrid are 17 points behind Real Madrid in the La Liga, wand Manchester United now 22 points behind of Manchester City.

However, the Champions League match in February. The teams have enough time to strengthen themselves. Manchester United's squad is strong, but their gameplay is weak. If they change their match strategy in 2 months then I bet for Manchester United to win.

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Maybe the matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is not between the biggest candidates of the CL title. But they are still strong teams on paper. On the other hand, their recent forms have been not very satisfying. Atletico Madrid have lost so many points in the La Liga lately and they barely advanced to this round of the CL. And Manchester United couldn't even defeat Newcastle last. But there is still a long time for this matchup. Things could change but I'll still be favoring the Red Devils.

While this is not a match for the biggest candidates, it is one of the most competitive matches. Atletico Madrid are not playing well in La Liga. Having lost several matches in a row, they now have to give up hope of winning the title. Manchester United, on the other hand, are in dire straits. They are performing very poorly. I said their performance was very poor because, I think United have the most star players in the Premier League. Yet their performance is not satisfactory. Both teams are in the same situation now. So the match will be competitive.
I don't think is going to be a thriller of a match, because both team( Manchester United and Atletico Madrid) are playing very awfully in there various leagues right now, Manchester United are the worst because they have more good quality players but when watching them you can't see anything skillful in there play.i just think they are missing Paul pogba very badly ever since he got injured there has not been anyone to link the defence and attack as good as he does.

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One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

I can bet everything against Chelsea winning the Champions League this year,well of course this is just a saying which means that I highly doubt they can win this season.The reason is quite simple,most of the other teams are much stronger than Chelsea is,luck can not always be by your side.For example if Chelsea can face PSG eventually they based on the players quality most likely will easily win against Chelsea.Rather than discipline it was luck but also discipline in the critical games.Nah I doubt it will happen again.
Even though it is true that Chelsea are quite superior in the last 16 now but I think the next phase will be more difficult because there are indeed fewer teams and on average it is definitely a very strong team.
What you did by betting entirely on chelsea is actually not wrong but there must be a careful calculation with this coupled with the performance of chelsea which incidentally the players are still being hit by a storm of injuries
I think that Chelsea's great responsibility is for its players, many thought that the team was not going to go very far, however favorites like Man City and PSG who promise as never have been the ones that have marked many, including Liverpool hand in hand with Salah, it is for this reason that I have always said that in football anything is possible and that nothing is written and that here the statistics can fall at any time, it is for this reason that sometimes football has a lot to do with it. do with good luck, and that is a determining factor.

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