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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129806 times)
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April 24, 2022, 12:21:30 PM
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Will Manchester United ever make it up to the champion leagues as the no longer on the top 5 on the EPL table, the lose to asernal today in the premier league have shown the club weakness.

I doubt if Manchester United can make it up to champions league  with their recent performance.  They lost to arsenal in yesterday day game and it made them to go down low. The way Manchester United are playing it looks very difficult to predict if Manchester United can come back strong any moment from now.
Ronaldo always starting their games. Unfortunately Rolando's performance not constant but variable, and if you're looking his execution only demonstrate against weak opponents. Maguire defensive performance also not up to the mark. Recuperation from this stage very unthinkable, and I question won't return soon. Newly appointed coach Erik Ten Hag will take charge from the starting of the next season and certainly going through an intense improvement.
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April 24, 2022, 12:36:32 PM
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Manchester City should be able to win Real Madrid if all things are being equal, Real Madrid team cannot do without Benzema. It is truth they have the likes of Vinicius Jnr and Modric to display some level of brilliance that could swing the game to their advantage but Vinicius is not consistent game after game and Modric can be marked out. As for Manchester City, their major worries is the injuries plaguing the team now and this might just give Real Madrid the advantage.
Define all things being Equal?

Manchester City vs Real Madrid without Benzema?

Besides, where is it written that Benzema is out or got injured and therefore won't play?
I don't know if you watch Real Madrid's matches, but Modric has been very brilliant for a 36-year-old. Are you aware that he has been involved in some of Real Madrid's recent comebacks?

Many predictions favor Manchester City, but Manchester City must remember that Real Madrid is a club that has a strong mentality. Real Madrid is a football club in this Spanish mother who has proven himself by winning 13 Champions League trophies. While Manchester City have not proven anything in the Champions League. However, Manchester City in recent years has shown good progress.
I still believe in the mentality of Real Madrid to advance to this year's final despite the prediction that Benzema will not be able to play due to injury.
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April 24, 2022, 12:36:50 PM
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Will Manchester United ever make it up to the champion leagues as the no longer on the top 5 on the EPL table, the lose to asernal today in the premier league have shown the club weakness.

It is not impossible, there is still a possibility, but I think it will not be easy. Manchester United were one of the teams that sadly performed poorly. After the match they lost yesterday, we can say that they don't have much chance anymore.
It is difficult to predict what they will do next season, but their chances of finishing with a good ranking have decreased this year Smiley
It is true that the possibility still exists but it will be difficult to realize it. Manchester United should be able to win every remaining game with a team record above them also having to drop points. Will be divided as it remains undetermined by itself but also waiting for the other Team to get a negative result. Especially with their current performance, I'm pessimistic that they can do it.

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April 24, 2022, 12:44:30 PM
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It is true that the possibility still exists but it will be difficult to realize it. Manchester United should be able to win every remaining game with a team record above them also having to drop points. Will be divided as it remains undetermined by itself but also waiting for the other Team to get a negative result. Especially with their current performance, I'm pessimistic that they can do it.

Manchester United's situation is really complicated!
I still believe that they can qualify as the next games tend to be against weaker teams, but with the emotional state of the players shaken this should get a little more complicated.

But the main disappointment of this game must be Cristiano Ronaldo... after returning to play, he scores the only goal but it isn't matched by the team that ends up losing.

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April 24, 2022, 01:42:01 PM
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Manchester City should be able to win Real Madrid if all things are being equal, Real Madrid team cannot do without Benzema. It is truth they have the likes of Vinicius Jnr and Modric to display some level of brilliance that could swing the game to their advantage but Vinicius is not consistent game after game and Modric can be marked out. As for Manchester City, their major worries is the injuries plaguing the team now and this might just give Real Madrid the advantage.
But they do not have to do without Benzema? Am I missing something, I checked everywhere and he is neither injured nor booked for the game, which means that he should be able to play right? I mean the sentence "they can't do without benzema" sounds like he won't be playing but he will be playing and they can with him on the roster as we all have seen before. If they managed to beat PSG and Chelsea, then there is no way of knowing if they can beat City as well.

I do believe that City has a higher chance, I do believe that City will go to next stage, but when you have a player like Benzema on the pitch, we never know what he may do to surprise us.
Yea is true that benzema deserve lot of praise for his outstanding performance he has display so far this season, what he has done in Laliga, what he did against Paris Saint Germain, that hatrick then against Chelsea in both legs he is truly a world class player, so Manchester City need to need to pay more attention to him, but I think Manchester City will go through to the finals because they have quality all over the pitch they only thing they might miss is Kyle walker who they lost to injury against Atletico Madrid in the quarter final second leg.

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April 24, 2022, 02:01:52 PM
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Manchester City have a better team collective and in my view also a better coach. But Manchester doesn't have a top striker like Benzema. In fact, de Bruyne is City's star player, but Madrid has Modric in midfield. It could well be that City will go out against Madrid. If you can beat PSG with Madrid, you can beat City. They have not always convinced, not even in the Champions League. The last time it was all difficult against Atletico and Atletico should have won that game, while they played with 10 men.

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April 24, 2022, 04:21:53 PM
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Can't wait for the semi-final match in the Champions League, both the Manchester City vs Real Madrid match, and the Liverpool vs Villareal match. I want to see how far Villarreal can put up a tight fight for Liverpool. Even though they are not seeded but I still want to see what this representative from Spain will do. But in the end I would still bet on Liverpool to be in the final.

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April 24, 2022, 04:29:34 PM
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Will Manchester United ever make it up to the champion leagues as the no longer on the top 5 on the EPL table, the lose to asernal today in the premier league have shown the club weakness.
It is not impossible, there is still a possibility, but I think it will not be easy. Manchester United were one of the teams that sadly performed poorly. After the match they lost yesterday, we can say that they don't have much chance anymore.
It is difficult to predict what they will do next season, but their chances of finishing with a good ranking have decreased this year Smiley
I no longer see the possibility of Manchester United qualifying for the Champions League. They have played one match more than Arsenal, but are still 6 points behind. Most likely Manchester United will be sixth in the table at the end of the season.
There is no shortage of talented and star players in the United squad. Their main weakness is their match strategy, and lack of bonding among the players. If the coaches do not change, their performance will not improve next season.
The possibility of Manchester United to enter the Champions League next season is very small even I say it is impossible after they have gone through many bad weeks, now the competition for 4th place in the standings is only fighting over 2 teams between Arsenal and Tottenham.

You are right. Manchester United is not playing well against strong teams. They are losing against every renowned team. They will face Chelsea and Liverpool in the next matches. And the idea is that they will lose these two matches as usual. Arsenal and Tottenham, on the other hand, are already far ahead of Manchester United. So the chances of United qualifying for the Champions League are almost nil.

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April 24, 2022, 04:30:54 PM
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Liverpool are going to have a more difficult matchup in the semi finals. Villarreal are still worse than them of course but we can't overlook Villarreal's performance so far. They have eliminated two big teams in the previous rounds. And they have nothing to lose against Liverpool too. They are not going to be under pressure to reach the finale but I can't say the same thing for Liverpool too. However, Liverpool are a very good team to deal with that pressure. They can transform it into an advantage whenever they want. I still expect a close score on aggregate despite thinking that Liverpool will eliminate them.

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April 24, 2022, 04:37:55 PM
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Can't wait for the semi-final match in the Champions League, both the Manchester City vs Real Madrid match, and the Liverpool vs Villareal match. I want to see how far Villarreal can put up a tight fight for Liverpool. Even though they are not seeded but I still want to see what this representative from Spain will do. But in the end I would still bet on Liverpool to be in the final.

The game is open for both teams and i believe we will get to witness tactical prowess in both legs of the champions league semi final this year. For Manchester city; they could be without Walker and Cancelo which is a blow to some extents; while Real Madrid could miss Casemiro (still rumours). Liverpool meanwhile have little to worry about injury wise. What are your picks for the first leg tie? A madrid win and a liverpool draw ?
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April 24, 2022, 04:43:17 PM
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It is true that the possibility still exists but it will be difficult to realize it. Manchester United should be able to win every remaining game with a team record above them also having to drop points. Will be divided as it remains undetermined by itself but also waiting for the other Team to get a negative result. Especially with their current performance, I'm pessimistic that they can do it.
Manchester United's situation is really complicated!
I still believe that they can qualify as the next games tend to be against weaker teams, but with the emotional state of the players shaken this should get a little more complicated.

But the main disappointment of this game must be Cristiano Ronaldo... after returning to play, he scores the only goal but it isn't matched by the team that ends up losing.

The problem is Manchester United is not playing as a team and the players also seem to have no chemistry with each other. and obviously, Cristiano Ronaldo alone cannot do everything in the team.  The way I see it is that he is doing his job which is scoring goals but the rest of the team should also help him by making more chances and also defending well enough. and the way Manchester United has been so inconsistent this season I really do not expect much from them at this stage.

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Can't wait for the semi-final match in the Champions League, both the Manchester City vs Real Madrid match, and the Liverpool vs Villareal match. I want to see how far Villarreal can put up a tight fight for Liverpool. Even though they are not seeded but I still want to see what this representative from Spain will do. But in the end I would still bet on Liverpool to be in the final.

The game is open for both teams and i believe we will get to witness tactical prowess in both legs of the champions league semi final this year. For Manchester city; they could be without Walker and Cancelo which is a blow to some extents; while Real Madrid could miss Casemiro (still rumours). Liverpool meanwhile have little to worry about injury wise. What are your picks for the first leg tie? A madrid win and a liverpool draw ?

Liverpool have the best draw, but Villareal have knocked out Juventus and Bayern Munich and were simply better and the deserved winner over 2 games against both teams. It cannot be ruled out that they can make a new stunt. Things are going a little less in the competition, but hidden forces seem to be emerging in the CL. Liverpool is expected to continue, but Villareal is certainly not without a chance. I think 80-20% Liverpool will go through to the final. Nobody wants a Liverpool-Man City final. But we also do not want Villareal - Real Madrid.

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April 24, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
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Will Manchester United ever make it up to the champion leagues as the no longer on the top 5 on the EPL table, the lose to asernal today in the premier league have shown the club weakness.
It is not impossible, there is still a possibility, but I think it will not be easy. Manchester United were one of the teams that sadly performed poorly. After the match they lost yesterday, we can say that they don't have much chance anymore.
It is difficult to predict what they will do next season, but their chances of finishing with a good ranking have decreased this year Smiley

I no longer see the possibility of Manchester United qualifying for the Champions League. They have played one match more than Arsenal, but are still 6 points behind. Most likely Manchester United will be sixth in the table at the end of the season.
There is no shortage of talented and star players in the United squad. Their main weakness is their match strategy, and lack of bonding among the players. If the coaches do not change, their performance will not improve next season.
The possibility of Manchester United to enter the Champions League next season is very small even I say it is impossible after they have gone through many bad weeks, now the competition for 4th place in the standings is only fighting over 2 teams between Arsenal and Tottenham.

honestly speaking tottenham is bad, they can't win even when they have a great opportunity to play against some weak team, i know that in the last games they were doing very well, they won some games and even scored a lot of goals, but they always start to win for a while then start to lose for a while and just now that it's a bad time, they started to lose points, something meaningless, they lost against Brighton, then they went to draw against brentford, that way they didn't make it to the champions league so soon. I even doubt that in the next seasons they will be able to reach the champions league. I wonder how tottenham fans deal with all this? It must be hard to be a tottenham fan.

Can't wait for the semi-final match in the Champions League, both the Manchester City vs Real Madrid match, and the Liverpool vs Villareal match. I want to see how far Villarreal can put up a tight fight for Liverpool. Even though they are not seeded but I still want to see what this representative from Spain will do. But in the end I would still bet on Liverpool to be in the final.

The game is open for both teams and i believe we will get to witness tactical prowess in both legs of the champions league semi final this year. For Manchester city; they could be without Walker and Cancelo which is a blow to some extents; while Real Madrid could miss Casemiro (still rumours). Liverpool meanwhile have little to worry about injury wise. What are your picks for the first leg tie? A madrid win and a liverpool draw ?

Liverpool have the best draw, but Villareal have knocked out Juventus and Bayern Munich and were simply better and the deserved winner over 2 games against both teams. It cannot be ruled out that they can make a new stunt. Things are going a little less in the competition, but hidden forces seem to be emerging in the CL. Liverpool is expected to continue, but Villareal is certainly not without a chance. I think 80-20% Liverpool will go through to the final. Nobody wants a Liverpool-Man City final. But we also do not want Villareal - Real Madrid.

villareal is a team that did very well at a certain point in the league but suddenly they dropped a lot in performance, but they are still inconsistent, which is very difficult to predict to what extent they can be a dangerous team, I hope liverpool does not underestimate them

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April 24, 2022, 04:52:22 PM
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The possibility of Manchester United to enter the Champions League next season is very small even I say it is impossible after they have gone through many bad weeks, now the competition for 4th place in the standings is only fighting over 2 teams between Arsenal and Tottenham.
I think England will send Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal/Tottenham. Arsenal and Tottenham are still struggling to finish in the top 4, the difference of two points from Arsenal makes Tottenham still have hope of appearing in the Champions League next season. Meanwhile, Manchester United will certainly find it difficult to catch Arsenal and Tottenham points, because Manchester United have played one game more than Arsenal and Tottenham. Moreover, the next match Manchester United will be met with Chelsea, If Manchester United loses to Chelsea in the 35th game. Manchester United is not only threatened not to appear in the Champions League, they are also in danger of losing their place in the Europa League.

Manchester United has not been consistent at all and the problem is almost all the teams in front of them are quite consistent at the moment and does not really seem to be losing any points anytime soon. or at least not at that amount where  Manchester United can benefit from that.

I really don't think Manchester United is going to be able to finish in the top five let alone the top 4. I expect Liverpool to win today against Everton and that is going to put Liverpool and Manchester City in the same amount of points. but Liverpool is going to be ahead in goal difference.

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April 24, 2022, 05:14:01 PM
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Can't wait for the semi-final match in the Champions League, both the Manchester City vs Real Madrid match, and the Liverpool vs Villareal match. I want to see how far Villarreal can put up a tight fight for Liverpool. Even though they are not seeded but I still want to see what this representative from Spain will do. But in the end I would still bet on Liverpool to be in the final.


I Think, both match will be interesting. My prediction goes to Manchester city and Liverpool to be in the Final.Manchester played very well this season and City is more strong team than Real Madrid. I Think Liverpool will win easily against villarreal. But Manchester city and Real Madrid match will be hard but Manchester city is favourite.
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You are right. Liverpool had to use their full strength to win. Villarreal is a very tactical team. They will probably apply a new strategy against Liverpool and will definitely want to win. Since the first leg was Liverpool's home match. So Liverpool must win the home match. If Liverpool is not able to win the home match, then maybe they will not be able to go to the final.
Liverpool still has to face Everton tomorrow in the EPL match. Everton is a team that almost slipped into the relegation zone. Liverpool has the opportunity to rest their players in this match to be better prepared for the first leg against Villarreal.
although the Everton game is also important, I think they can handle it by playing it safe enough. Liverpool has the motivation to get 2 trophies this season. and it is very possible to achieve at this time. Hopefully, Liverpool can perform optimally.

Do you really think Klopp will let his players rest and lose the slim chance for the title? I think they will go out with the A team and play brilliantly, Villareal fought strong, their opponents underestimated them and lost but Liverpool will certainly kick them out with no problem.

And as I predicted back then, Klopp has no intention of letting his players rest, because today he has hardly used any alternatives. Still, Liverpool won't play any less seriously against Villareal and I'm sure they will win at least handicap vs. them.

Liverpool is in my opinion already in the finals Smiley

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Manchester City are going to have a really tough match against Real Madrid in Etihad. Maybe they will have the most ball possession in this match as usual. But it would still be very difficult to win against a this much strong Real Madrid. And if Real Madrid manage to score the first goal of the match somehow, then Manchester City will be in a bigger trouble. Even a draw can be counted as advantageous for Real Madrid here. Because they would show their real performance in Santiago Bernabeu.

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April 24, 2022, 05:25:48 PM
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I no longer see the possibility of Manchester United qualifying for the Champions League. They have played one match more than Arsenal, but are still 6 points behind. Most likely Manchester United will be sixth in the table at the end of the season.
There is no shortage of talented and star players in the United squad. Their main weakness is their match strategy, and lack of bonding among the players. If the coaches do not change, their performance will not improve next season.
Moreover, Man United still has tough team opponents like Chelsea and Liverpool. Man United will be difficult to get into the top 4. there is even a possibility that Man United will be displaced by West Ham if they do not improve their performance.
This season has been pretty bad for Man United. they look difficult in winning the match against an equally strong team.

Manchester United has been really inconsistent to make any progress this season. Yes, I also have doubted them to finish in the top five. The problem is the teams that are in front of them are not going to drop points in a way that helps Manchester United right now. Their play style seems not good and playing without any chemistry, just passing the ball without any target. Cristiano Ronaldo alone cannot do everything for the team.

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I agree with you.
For many fans Bayern was a big favorite to win this competition, just as Barcelona was a big favorite to win the Europa League.
We all know what happened in the end.
European competitions are very long and difficult, and it's not easy to play every game at a top level.
You can play perfectly all season and then play one game a little weaker and drop out of the competition.
Ask Guardiola and Manchester City what they think of this?  Grin
Often the winner in the end is not the best team but the most prepared team.
Villareal is a very difficult and dangerous team and Liverpool will have to play two perfect games to win.

Liverpool needs to play good football if they want to beat Villareal. They might not be the best team in La Liga but they are obviously showing good performance in the Champions League and Liverpool can not underestimate their opponent in any way.

Otherwise, they might face the same consequences as Bayern Munich did. And I am not saying that Bayern Munich underestimated their opponent. They actually played with their full strength and still lost.

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April 24, 2022, 06:50:30 PM
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Manchester United's situation is really complicated!
I still believe that they can qualify as the next games tend to be against weaker teams, but with the emotional state of the players shaken this should get a little more complicated.

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It seems difficult to expect them to appear in the Champions League. Maybe even in the European league they could not qualify. They are currently in 6th position and maybe they could even be threatened by West Ham who are below them. Ronaldo has a contract until next season but I heard he was allowed to leave by their new coach. If ronaldo wants to appear in Europe of course that's his chance to go. But are there any clubs interested in the aging him? Besides that at Man United he also did not perform as well as before.
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