⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Doell]

...because miracles don't keep coming even though in a match any result can happen. I personally believe Liverpool will be able to learn how Villarreal can get rid of Juventus and Bayern Munich, so Liverpool will certainly have a formula to deal with it.

I can agree with you somehow that Liverpool would prolly be the team that progresses to the final of the CL at the expense of Villareal. But what i would disagree with is that Villarreal got to this stage on the basis of miracle or luck, in the last round they actually played better than Bayern in my opinion, and they deserve to qualify, which they did. They also matched Juve evenly when they played them in the QF, Villareal have not just been lucky, they have been good, and they deserve an awful amount of credit.

Having said that, going by the two previous rounds, they can dare to dream, eliminating Liverpool and going to the CL final is a dream for Villareal, but they have been great in the CL this far this season and they have every right to dream of a CL final, i would be keeping my fingers crossed with my popcorn by my side for this game.

On this side at this time I can agree with you, Villarreal can progress not only by luck but tactics and playing patterns are very compact and neatly arranged solidly at the back line also very strong. Liverpool is not an easy opponent for Villarreal but Villarreal is also not an ordinary opponent for Liverpool, we may see something else who knows what happens later.

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[Davian144]

I also really hope the two big clubs compete against each other in the final match, but it looks like Man. City vs Madrid is the toughest consideration in deciding which strong club will advance to the final, but whoever wins the first leg in the semi-finals has a high chance of qualifying for the final.

That's clear, but they both have to try to score more goals so that the capital or the opportunity to pass or qualify for the final is bigger because if it's only one goal difference, I think one of them will try to catch it and also try as hard as possible. to be able to qualify for the final, because the Champions League is a big game that must be played well by both.

[skarais]

You are right. Anything can happen. However, I think Villarreal will apply their old strategy against Liverpool. Villarreal will give more importance to the attack while keeping the defense strong or counter-attacking. Villarreal's main goal will be not to concede goal. Although enjoying these matches is a bit boring. However, if Villarreal wants to do well against Liverpool, they will have to play this tactic. Because Villarreal's chances of winning are very low if they play attacking against Liverpool.

Nobody expected Villareal to play an attacking strategy against Liverpool because I'm sure Unai Emery knows they won't win a game like that. The strategy of defending and utilizing counter-attacks is much more likely to be applied against Liverpool or at least they will play the same strategy against Bayern Munchen.

I'm sure Villareal are not at all seeded against Liverpool, but we've seen surprises in various competitions including the Champions League where a team that was considered weak finally managed to beat the favorite team. So even though Liverpool are favorites but victory is still uncertain for them.

[hyudien]

Nobody expected Villareal to play an attacking strategy against Liverpool because I'm sure Unai Emery knows they won't win a game like that. The strategy of defending and utilizing counter-attacks is much more likely to be applied against Liverpool or at least they will play the same strategy against Bayern Munchen.

I'm sure Villareal are not at all seeded against Liverpool, but we've seen surprises in various competitions including the Champions League where a team that was considered weak finally managed to beat the favorite team. So even though Liverpool are favorites but victory is still uncertain for them.

Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

[lizarder]

I think in any game there is 50% Luck involved. And the other 50% is pure skill. If a team can execute their plans perfectly and play really well often they will find luck on their side. Liverpool has been playing really well this season and there is no reason why we should doubt them but the thing is their opponent beat Bayern Munich. And I think that alone proves that their opponent is strong enough. It is going to be a really interesting Champions League this year.

In the world of football luck is not a priority, because here is not talking about it. But what I see, players' skills, experience and training really determine their journey to win in any match, luck is something that is not real in football, even for all teams can't be doubted, because sometimes the coach's foresight in seeing the conditions will also affect the course of the match, Bayern Munich which is a big team can also be defeated, as well as Liverpool, if they apply the wrong strategy, they will also feel what Bayern Munich experienced.

You are right. Good luck in winning the match. Experienced coaches and beautiful match techniques are also required. Villarreal were able to beat a strong team like Bayern Munich despite having fewer star players in the squad, mainly due to good luck and good tactics. Liverpool are much stronger than Villarreal in terms of performance. However, Villarreal's match strategy and luck are very good. So Liverpool has to perform very carefully.

The moments and strategies applied by the coach are very decisive, if they get pressure, but they can handle the pressure, then the match will happen like Villareal against Bayern Munich, Liverpool must be more vigilant in that match, because the winning spirit possessed by Villareal will give a amazing thing, especially since the coach will implement a strategy that Liverpool can't read, I think Liverpool will be in trouble for them, because this team is not targeting the champion, so the game will be a little easier without a burden

[BuNga_cute]

Nobody expected Villareal to play an attacking strategy against Liverpool because I'm sure Unai Emery knows they won't win a game like that. The strategy of defending and utilizing counter-attacks is much more likely to be applied against Liverpool or at least they will play the same strategy against Bayern Munchen.

I'm sure Villareal are not at all seeded against Liverpool, but we've seen surprises in various competitions including the Champions League where a team that was considered weak finally managed to beat the favorite team. So even though Liverpool are favorites but victory is still uncertain for them.

Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

I have to admit Unai Emery did a great job, which brought Villarreal to the semifinals. And Unai Emery managed to surprise many people,
after his strategy managed to get rid of Juventus and Bayern. But I doubt his strategy will be effective against Liverpool, it must be remembered
that Liverpool is a formidable team and has a genius coach like Klopp. Moreover, Klopp is quite experienced in the Champions League competition,
where Klopp had made Dortmund reach the runner-up of the 2012/2013 Champions League. Then as Liverpool coach Klopp managed to bring
Liverpool to the runner-up Champions League 2017/2018, and finally brought Liverpool to win the Champions League trophy in
the 2018/2019 season. While Unai Emery is only a specialist in the Europa League, so I doubt Villarreal will create another surprise
by eliminating Liverpool.

[minairia3]

I think in any game there is 50% Luck involved. And the other 50% is pure skill. If a team can execute their plans perfectly and play really well often they will find luck on their side. Liverpool has been playing really well this season and there is no reason why we should doubt them but the thing is their opponent beat Bayern Munich. And I think that alone proves that their opponent is strong enough. It is going to be a really interesting Champions League this year.

In the world of football luck is not a priority, because here is not talking about it. But what I see, players' skills, experience and training really determine their journey to win in any match, luck is something that is not real in football, even for all teams can't be doubted, because sometimes the coach's foresight in seeing the conditions will also affect the course of the match, Bayern Munich which is a big team can also be defeated, as well as Liverpool, if they apply the wrong strategy, they will also feel what Bayern Munich experienced.

I know that the players who play in the match are the ones who have the majority of control over what will happen in that match. But till now I will say, the luck factor is always going to be there because if you are lucky you will be able to score from the most unbelievable of positions and if you are unlucky you will miss even your point-blank shots.

But, I was considering the fact that the players who are going to play in that match,  if one team is better than the other then obviously the prediction is going to be north for the better team.

[skarais]

Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

Liverpool are favorites for this season's Champions League final and if they make it to the final then I'm sure they will win the title this season. I just want Liverpool to play as expected and not underestimate Villarreal because to be honest Villarreal can still score goals and survive until the end of the match.

Besides I want Liverpool to be in the final, I also want Manchester City to reach another final this season and try to win the title. Regardless of whether they are successful or not this season but the game against Madrid is a game that might be called the pre-final of this season.

[hyudien]

Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

Liverpool are favorites for this season's Champions League final and if they make it to the final then I'm sure they will win the title this season. I just want Liverpool to play as expected and not underestimate Villarreal because to be honest Villarreal can still score goals and survive until the end of the match.

Besides I want Liverpool to be in the final, I also want Manchester City to reach another final this season and try to win the title. Regardless of whether they are successful or not this season but the game against Madrid is a game that might be called the pre-final of this season.

The point is that it is clear again between Manchester City and Liverpool in the final because that is the club that will certainly make us feel more challenged to allocate big bets. Not only about betting, but the excitement that is indeed anticipated as one of the prestigious clubs this season, namely Liverpool and Manchester City. Now only Real Madrid can change this to be more terrible.

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[mamesso]

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Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

When compared to other semi finalists, Liverpool has a slight advantage, Villarreal is not a balanced opponent for Liverpool. This season Liverpool is very difficult to beat, the performance of players who continue to improve makes Liverpool entitled to enter the Final.
While Real Madrid are facing a serious challenge from Man City, after losing to Chelsea in the final last season, they will try to get into the final again this season while making their dream come true of getting their first UCL trophy.
We'll see who's the best this season, whether it's a Spanish team or an English team..

[Maidak]

You are right. Anything can happen. However, I think Villarreal will apply their old strategy against Liverpool. Villarreal will give more importance to the attack while keeping the defense strong or counter-attacking. Villarreal's main goal will be not to concede goal. Although enjoying these matches is a bit boring. However, if Villarreal wants to do well against Liverpool, they will have to play this tactic. Because Villarreal's chances of winning are very low if they play attacking against Liverpool.

Nobody expected Villareal to play an attacking strategy against Liverpool because I'm sure Unai Emery knows they won't win a game like that. The strategy of defending and utilizing counter-attacks is much more likely to be applied against Liverpool or at least they will play the same strategy against Bayern Munchen.

I'm sure Villareal are not at all seeded against Liverpool, but we've seen surprises in various competitions including the Champions League where a team that was considered weak finally managed to beat the favorite team. So even though Liverpool are favorites but victory is still uncertain for them.

I agree because I think Villarreal actually took Bayern Munich by surprise when they went for the attacking option. I think Bayern Munich thought that they are going to stay behind and defend and it will be easy for them but things did not work out like that. Even though it is expected that they might do the same thing I think that is the only way Villarreal actually wins against Liverpool. Because if they stay behind and defend they will eventually leave gaps in their defense and Liverpool is a great team to exploit those types of gaps.

[Marvell1]

You are right. Good luck in winning the match. Experienced coaches and beautiful match techniques are also required. Villarreal were able to beat a strong team like Bayern Munich despite having fewer star players in the squad, mainly due to good luck and good tactics. Liverpool are much stronger than Villarreal in terms of performance. However, Villarreal's match strategy and luck are very good. So Liverpool has to perform very carefully.

The moments and strategies applied by the coach are very decisive, if they get pressure, but they can handle the pressure, then the match will happen like Villareal against Bayern Munich, Liverpool must be more vigilant in that match, because the winning spirit possessed by Villareal will give a amazing thing, especially since the coach will implement a strategy that Liverpool can't read, I think Liverpool will be in trouble for them, because this team is not targeting the champion, so the game will be a little easier without a burden

I know that a lot of people did not give Villarreal any chance in that match against Bayern Munich and I was actually one of them.

But I really think that in this match there are not going to be any surprises and Liverpool should win this match against Villarreal. And I am not going to be surprised if I see Villareal trying the same tactics that tried against Bayern Munich. Because they know very well that if they sit behind and play defensive they will eventually lose that match so it is better to go down swinging.

[iv4n]

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Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

When compared to other semi finalists, Liverpool has a slight advantage, Villarreal is not a balanced opponent for Liverpool. This season Liverpool is very difficult to beat, the performance of players who continue to improve makes Liverpool entitled to enter the Final.
While Real Madrid are facing a serious challenge from Man City, after losing to Chelsea in the final last season, they will try to get into the final again this season while making their dream come true of getting their first UCL trophy.
We'll see who's the best this season, whether it's a Spanish team or an English team..

Villarreal is definitely the biggest surprise this season! As you say rarely anyone expected them to pass Bayern, many of us did not give them any chance in Germany, but they played well, I think they were better than Bayern and deserved to be in the semifinals! Of course, Liverpool is the favorite, but I would not write off Villarreal in this game, they have a good team and good tactics, if they find a way to stop Liverpool like Bayern, maybe they can get to the finals! In any case, the first game will be very interesting!

Real left great teams behind, first PSG fell, and then Chelsea! No doubt the team is up to standard and they really play good football! There isn't a lot to say about City, they are good in all fields this season! I don't think there are any favorites in this game, both teams have strong motivation and good players, maybe this is even the final before the final... anyway, I expect great football with goals on both sides, it's how these teams play this season!

[abhiseshakana]

Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

When compared to other semi finalists, Liverpool has a slight advantage, Villarreal is not a balanced opponent for Liverpool. This season Liverpool is very difficult to beat, the performance of players who continue to improve makes Liverpool entitled to enter the Final.

Yes, Liverpool will still be the favourite but Sevilla is also not an opponent to be taken lightly. Sevilla made it to the semifinals not just because of luck because they managed to beat the big teams they were against in the previous round (Bayern Munich and Juventus). So even though Sevilla is the underdog, I think they still have a chance to win the semifinals. Maybe their chances are not higher than Liverpool, but in football, something unexpected can happen.

[wildan88]

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Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

When compared to other semi finalists, Liverpool has a slight advantage, Villarreal is not a balanced opponent for Liverpool. This season Liverpool is very difficult to beat, the performance of players who continue to improve makes Liverpool entitled to enter the Final.
While Real Madrid are facing a serious challenge from Man City, after losing to Chelsea in the final last season, they will try to get into the final again this season while making their dream come true of getting their first UCL trophy.
We'll see who's the best this season, whether it's a Spanish team or an English team..

Villarreal is definitely the biggest surprise this season! As you say rarely anyone expected them to pass Bayern, many of us did not give them any chance in Germany, but they played well, I think they were better than Bayern and deserved to be in the semifinals! Of course, Liverpool is the favorite, but I would not write off Villarreal in this game, they have a good team and good tactics, if they find a way to stop Liverpool like Bayern, maybe they can get to the finals! In any case, the first game will be very interesting!

Real left great teams behind, first PSG fell, and then Chelsea! No doubt the team is up to standard and they really play good football! There isn't a lot to say about City, they are good in all fields this season! I don't think there are any favorites in this game, both teams have strong motivation and good players, maybe this is even the final before the final... anyway, I expect great football with goals on both sides, it's how these teams play this season!

Nobody expected in advance that Villareal would make it to the semi-finals of the Champions League. It is a team that wants to play very attacking and attractive football. They got away well against Bayern Munich, but in Spain they completely outplayed Bayern, especially in the first half. So it's right that they went ahead. That 0-3 win at Juventus was also very good, not many teams do that to win there. Liverpool must have been warned, there will certainly be no more underestimation now. Klopp is smart and experienced enough for that.

[Bloodseekers]

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Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

When compared to other semi finalists, Liverpool has a slight advantage, Villarreal is not a balanced opponent for Liverpool. This season Liverpool is very difficult to beat, the performance of players who continue to improve makes Liverpool entitled to enter the Final.
While Real Madrid are facing a serious challenge from Man City, after losing to Chelsea in the final last season, they will try to get into the final again this season while making their dream come true of getting their first UCL trophy.
We'll see who's the best this season, whether it's a Spanish team or an English team..

Liverpool's quality and consistency is much better than Villarreal, I also think it's difficult for Villarreal to be able to surprise continuously, with what Villarreal did to Bayern of course make Liverpool more alert and not underestimate them. Liverpool are very likely to be able to overcome Villarreal.
while another match between Real Madrid and Man City will be very difficult I think because both teams have almost the same quality and also Real Madrid which is very difficult to beat on the UCL stage.
and I think to be champions an English club has a bigger chance and I'm Liverpool's favourite.

[ropyu1978]

UEFA Champion League as the only one competition for Villareal can participant on next season become the winner, with drop 7th position standing on domestic league Villareal can't got UEFA Champion League spot next season trough domestic league, but still possibility by getting Champion League trophy in this season can qualify for champion league next season. I think not any dreaming for Villareal can reach champion league trophy because they have strong with eliminated Juventus and Bayern Munich so far, still have chance Liverpool become the next team destroy by Villareal on UEFA Champion League semifinal.

Juventus has been destroyed by Villareal, and Bayern has also been eliminated by Villareal, a very extraordinary achievement, but I'm not sure Villareal can make a surprise for the third time, facing Liferpol is not easy, I'm optimistic that Liferpol can beat Vilareal, I will install Big bet for Liverpool's victory, because I believe and I believe Villareal will not be able to surprise for the third time, even though Villareal played defensively against Liferpol, but Jorgen Klopp's team can definitely break into Villareal's goal, just like they broke into ATM's goal, which always plays survive against liferpol in champions league.

[KTChampions]

I'm surprised that nobody gives Villarreal a chance against Liverpool.
If I remember this correctly,Unai Emery defeated Liverpool with Klopp at the Europa League 2016 final.
Emery is a pretty clever guy and he knows how to win tournaments.He won 3 Europa League trophies,maybe it's time for him to win the UEFA Champions League.
The semi-final between Man City and Real Madrid is going to be pretty unpredictable.I think that Manchester City is going to win and get to the final.Real Madrid had a solid performance throughout the season,but they rely heavily on Benzema and they will have a hard time,if Benzema gets blocked by the Man City defenders.

Villarreal has a chance, they have already proved it with their victories. There is nothing to argue about. Vporos only in the chances. In the confrontation with Liverpool, they are again outsiders - Liverpool looks too strong, it is difficult to name at least one team now that is guaranteed to be stronger than them. That's why Liverpool are rated as the clear favourites, but if Villarreal gets through then I don't think everyone will be as shocked as when they knocked out Bayern.

[Sterbens]

Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

When compared to other semi finalists, Liverpool has a slight advantage, Villarreal is not a balanced opponent for Liverpool. This season Liverpool is very difficult to beat, the performance of players who continue to improve makes Liverpool entitled to enter the Final.

Yes, Liverpool will still be the favourite but Sevilla is also not an opponent to be taken lightly. Sevilla made it to the semifinals not just because of luck because they managed to beat the big teams they were against in the previous round (Bayern Munich and Juventus). So even though Sevilla is the underdog, I think they still have a chance to win the semifinals. Maybe their chances are not higher than Liverpool, but in football, something unexpected can happen.

Sevilla?
Maybe you mean Villareal. haha

A dark horse in the Champions League is something that will be a threat as well as a hope that is difficult to profit from. Liverpool should not underestimate Villareal, because they can be more aggressive and want to qualify for the Final by showing all the abilities they have. This will be a reference for Klopp to remain careful. And stay alert to how Villareal defense will be tightened so as not to let even 1 goal be easily conceded.