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May 12, 2022, 01:24:08 PM
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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

I think, Liverpool players are busy for what will bring favour to them at the end of the final because they don't want Real Madrid to disgrace them like the way they disgrace other teams in this season. I still stand for Liverpool to win this season champion league title because they had performed well from the beginning of this tournament till now which it will make many people to predict for their favour. Real Madrid players will try their possible best to draw the match, but it will be difficult for Liverpool to allow the match to end up draw than to use their tactics to defeat Real Madrid 2-1 for the favour of Liverpool.
What is clear is that they should not underestimate Madrid in this regard.
Now Madrid has turned into a frightening specter who initially was a team that could be said to be underdog because they continued to face tough opponents but now they are like a boomerang and regardless of luck or their mentality is very good, Madrid is now a pretty scary figure.
Liverpool are currently still busy with their Quadruple target which may be lost and I think it would be better if they focused on the Champions League final instead of thinking about the EPL title which is quite difficult to achieve

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May 12, 2022, 01:28:29 PM
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Liverpool should now focus entirely on the Champions League final. Because whether Liverpool can win the Premier League title will depend on Manchester City's performance. If City lose a match, Liverpool will have a chance to win the title. Despite winning all Premier League matches, Liverpool is unlikely to win the title unless Manchester City loses points. And so Liverpool should try to win the Champions League title. Because if they can play well, they can win the title.
Their chance in the EPL is almost closed with 2 matches remaining now. indeed it would be wiser if they focused on the Champions League Final at the moment rather than continue to make this difficult for the players.

but on the other hand of course Kloop knows much better what he wants to do. at the moment he is still quite successful with Liverpool and for sure he knows what he is going to do at this crucial moment

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May 12, 2022, 01:29:11 PM
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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

I think, Liverpool players are busy for what will bring favour to them at the end of the final because they don't want Real Madrid to disgrace them like the way they disgrace other teams in this season. I still stand for Liverpool to win this season champion league title because they had performed well from the beginning of this tournament till now which it will make many people to predict for their favour. Real Madrid players will try their possible best to draw the match, but it will be difficult for Liverpool to allow the match to end up draw than to use their tactics to defeat Real Madrid 2-1 for the favour of Liverpool.
What is clear is that they should not underestimate Madrid in this regard.
Now Madrid has turned into a frightening specter who initially was a team that could be said to be underdog because they continued to face tough opponents but now they are like a boomerang and regardless of luck or their mentality is very good, Madrid is now a pretty scary figure.
Liverpool are currently still busy with their Quadruple target which may be lost and I think it would be better if they focused on the Champions League final instead of thinking about the EPL title which is quite difficult to achieve

I agree with you it is better and it makes sense for Liverpool to focus on the Champions League final rather than the Premier League. Because the English league champion is in the hands of Manchester City, while the Champions League winner is Liverpool's own decision if they can win the final match against Real Madrid, this automatically becomes Jurgen Klopp's achievement and Liverpool will definitely make a new history in the Champions League.

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May 12, 2022, 01:37:47 PM
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Liverpool should now focus entirely on the Champions League final. Because whether Liverpool can win the Premier League title will depend on Manchester City's performance. If City lose a match, Liverpool will have a chance to win the title. Despite winning all Premier League matches, Liverpool is unlikely to win the title unless Manchester City loses points. And so Liverpool should try to win the Champions League title. Because if they can play well, they can win the title.

The Final Match will be after the EPL ends, correct? So, we will know the result Liverpool achieved in the EPL before the final. After that, surely between Madrid and Liverpool will do whatever it takes to achieve the title. For Liverpool, if they lose to City in the EPL race, then they must be able to beat Madrid as a substitute for their defeat in the EPL, and as the best title of the season. As for Madrid, if they win, this will be their 14th title. Win results will makes them the best European clubs in UCL all the time, because will be hard for another clubs to shift their trophy for now.
Thus the opportunities that Real Madrid have are actually more open, you say that Liverpool will face City in the remaining matches, that means Liverpool still have an important match before going to the Champions League final, Liverpool's difficulty now they must really focus on which league, because What we're worried about is Liverpool won't be able to secure a single trophy for this season, if they don't focus on one of these
If not a possible injury to any one of their key players Liverpool playing competitive EPL every week prior to their UCL final against Real Madrid is a welcome development, though it's a bit risky, however it will enable their players to be more fitter and in-form, Real Madrid players might have too much rest after winning the Laliga trophy which can be counterproductive, however I think it's better Real Madrid allow their players to play few games this will also enable their players to be competitive ready for their final match against Liverpool.

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May 12, 2022, 01:41:19 PM
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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

I think, Liverpool players are busy for what will bring favour to them at the end of the final because they don't want Real Madrid to disgrace them like the way they disgrace other teams in this season. I still stand for Liverpool to win this season champion league title because they had performed well from the beginning of this tournament till now which it will make many people to predict for their favour. Real Madrid players will try their possible best to draw the match, but it will be difficult for Liverpool to allow the match to end up draw than to use their tactics to defeat Real Madrid 2-1 for the favour of Liverpool.
I assumed the match could have ended in a penalty shootout. Both teams will probably score, but neither team will win in 2x45 minutes.
Liverpool fans will support Liverpool's victory. so are the Madrid fans. both of them will probably be focused on this final, but Liverpool has a lot of important games too. Liverpool's focus will be divided for each of their matches.
It's pretty good if the game goes into extra time, the audience will be very entertained because they can enjoy a great match for a long time. Real Madrid and Liverpool will take the initiative to attack early in the game in search of the winning goal, both teams will try to get a good result with the goals they get. It is very difficult to guess who will succeed in lifting the Champions League trophy this season, because Real Madrid and Liverpool are both the best teams in this competition.
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May 12, 2022, 01:48:39 PM
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Liverpool should now focus entirely on the Champions League final. Because whether Liverpool can win the Premier League title will depend on Manchester City's performance. If City lose a match, Liverpool will have a chance to win the title. Despite winning all Premier League matches, Liverpool is unlikely to win the title unless Manchester City loses points. And so Liverpool should try to win the Champions League title. Because if they can play well, they can win the title.

The Final Match will be after the EPL ends, correct? So, we will know the result Liverpool achieved in the EPL before the final. After that, surely between Madrid and Liverpool will do whatever it takes to achieve the title. For Liverpool, if they lose to City in the EPL race, then they must be able to beat Madrid as a substitute for their defeat in the EPL, and as the best title of the season. As for Madrid, if they win, this will be their 14th title. Win results will makes them the best European clubs in UCL all the time, because will be hard for another clubs to shift their trophy for now.
Thus the opportunities that Real Madrid have are actually more open, you say that Liverpool will face City in the remaining matches, that means Liverpool still have an important match before going to the Champions League final, Liverpool's difficulty now they must really focus on which league, because What we're worried about is Liverpool won't be able to secure a single trophy for this season, if they don't focus on one of these
If not a possible injury to any one of their key players Liverpool playing competitive EPL every week prior to their UCL final against Real Madrid is a welcome development, though it's a bit risky, however it will enable their players to be more fitter and in-form, Real Madrid players might have too much rest after winning the Laliga trophy which can be counterproductive, however I think it's better Real Madrid allow their players to play few games this will also enable their players to be competitive ready for their final match against Liverpool.
@mumang siat, in case you didn't know, actually Liverpool have got the trophy this season and it's the Carabao Cup. Also, that way there is still a chance for Liverpool to get another trophy, Liverpool still has the chance to get the EPL trophy, FA Cup and also, Champions League. I personally hope Liverpool can get all that but if not, at least Liverpool have proven that this season Liverpool is really great because they are candidates for the title in several different tournaments.

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May 12, 2022, 02:10:14 PM
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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.
I think, Liverpool players are busy for what will bring favour to them at the end of the final because they don't want Real Madrid to disgrace them like the way they disgrace other teams in this season. I still stand for Liverpool to win this season champion league title because they had performed well from the beginning of this tournament till now which it will make many people to predict for their favour. Real Madrid players will try their possible best to draw the match, but it will be difficult for Liverpool to allow the match to end up draw than to use their tactics to defeat Real Madrid 2-1 for the favour of Liverpool.
What is clear is that they should not underestimate Madrid in this regard.
Now Madrid has turned into a frightening specter who initially was a team that could be said to be underdog because they continued to face tough opponents but now they are like a boomerang and regardless of luck or their mentality is very good, Madrid is now a pretty scary figure.
Liverpool are currently still busy with their Quadruple target which may be lost and I think it would be better if they focused on the Champions League final instead of thinking about the EPL title which is quite difficult to achieve

Real Madrid is not scarier than any other team in my opinion right now. I probably wouldn't have said this but when it comes to true champions League Real Madrid is certainly one of the best if not the best team in this competition. There is no way and no reason why Liverpool should underestimate Real Madrid. If anything Liverpool should be really careful because no one has given Real Madrid any chance of being in the finals of the Champions League this time but they made it against all odds.

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May 12, 2022, 02:37:42 PM
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I agree with you it is better and it makes sense for Liverpool to focus on the Champions League final rather than the Premier League. Because the English league champion is in the hands of Manchester City, while the Champions League winner is Liverpool's own decision if they can win the final match against Real Madrid, this automatically becomes Jurgen Klopp's achievement and Liverpool will definitely make a new history in the Champions League.
Obviously Liverpool will prioritize the Champions League, because the Champions League Trophy is more prestigious than the Premier League trophy. In the Premier League Liverpool are in second place, after Manchester City won over Wolves Liverpool are three points behind Manchester City, Liverpool is very dependent on the results achieved by Manchester City to get the Premier League trophy.
While in the Champions League Liverpool only need to win over Real Madrid. One more game is very important for Liverpool to bring home the Champions League trophy to England, as well as revenge against Real Madrid for their defeat in the 2018 Final.

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May 12, 2022, 02:49:57 PM
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Real Madrid is not scarier than any other team in my opinion right now. I probably wouldn't have said this but when it comes to true champions League Real Madrid is certainly one of the best if not the best team in this competition. There is no way and no reason why Liverpool should underestimate Real Madrid. If anything Liverpool should be really careful because no one has given Real Madrid any chance of being in the finals of the Champions League this time but they made it against all odds.

I think few expected Real Madrid to reach the final this season. But the fact that they had a less competitive national championship, allowed them to focus more on the Champions League, and even with difficulties reaching the final.

Now that they are in the finals, as I said earlier, they are the favourites. Real Madrid have lost very few Champions League finals, it will be difficult for Liverpool.

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May 12, 2022, 02:54:03 PM
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Obviously Liverpool will prioritize the Champions League, because the Champions League Trophy is more prestigious than the Premier League trophy.
The premier league is City's to lose, with two games left and in the position they are in, they are favorites for the title, Liverpool can only hope and pray for a slip-up, but the thing remains that their destiny is not in their own hands, but in the CL it is different, when the game starts, the both teams have equal chances of being champions. This can prolly be the only reason why Liverpool would be eagerly looking forward to the CL final, and not prioritizing it per se, cause i can assure you that the same way Liverpool will head into their game against Madrid, is the exact same way they will play their last two games in the EPL against Southampton and Wolves. Every competition is still up for grabs for them, and until it is over, they will play with as much intensity as they can, to win and be champions, it might not be possible in all, but they will try.

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May 12, 2022, 02:54:11 PM
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Not that long and it will come before you know it. Liverpool's last premier league match will be on May 22 so is one week preparation enough for the Finals? I think so but time will tell. Liverpool will most like field their full first team even on the last day and we can only hope that none of their key players get injured. We want both teams at their best.
I agree, I also hope that these two teams come out with the full squad without any of their main players being unavailable. Indeed, the road to the final is still long and both teams are still busy with their domestic leagues, especially for Liverpool who still hope that their main rivals Manchester City slip in their remaining matches, although that is a bit impossible. I also hope that the final game will be as we expected.
In what have seen and observe about Jürgen Klopp,he will fight till the end, as long as Manchester City has not won the league mathematically then there is know need to give up,but that does not mean he should not rest players or rotate his team, in there game against Aston villa on Tuesday he did not start Mohamed Salah he brought him on very late in the second half, and they did not miss him too much because they have a large squad,beside their full backs I don't see any other position that they don't have replacement in, is not like the season that they lose Mohamed Salah to injury in the final,. This time around they have two good replacement in Luis Diaz and jota so they won't be scared to rest players.

The matches that are left for Liverpool in the English Premier League are not so difficult in my opinion and that's why I am not going to be surprised if I see a few rotations in the squad. I believe Liverpool is going to play their best team against Real Madrid in the Champions League final. So Jürgen Klopp is surely going to do what's necessary for the team to have the best players available for the Champions League final.

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If you look at the history of the match, 4 times madrid never lost. But in 2021 they are a draw. May 28, is still quite a long time, they still have enough preparation. It's just that madrid today is more relaxed because the La Liga title they have got.  As for Liverpol, they still have a chance of winning, so they are certainly fighting hard for the EPL and UCL. I in the final will choose Madrid for the champions, they will win 2-1. It's just my prediction hopefully correct, or at least Madrid won even if my score guess was wrong. 

Source: https://www.sofascore.com/liverpool-real-madrid/UsEgb
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I hope we don't just get hung up on statistics like this.
Indeed, in statistics we can tell where the difference in strength lies from different perspectives but in this case it can actually be confusing.
I feel that PSG and City should be examples. they are very underdog in stats but what they got against Real Madrid.
I think this can be a reference for not making statistics too much as if they are the winner

At this time I would not let myself be carried away by the statistics, for me I think the winner will be Real Madrid, although Liverpool is literally flying, I think Real Madrid has a lot of experience in finals and above all they have a great technical director, in addition that Benzema can shine even more. Of course, not everything is written, Liverpool may give a surprise, in the PL they are having a very good season, both they and City are at the top.
In this case I agree with what you said and I think it would be very funny if we just rely on statistics alone to determine who deserves it.
Even though Liverpool are currently on fire, especially now they are eyeing the Quadruple, but on the other hand, we also can't make it look like it will be easy, especially since the opponent they will face is Real Madrid.
I personally prefer Madrid for whatever reason they are still strong enough and could even make Liverpool lose

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May 12, 2022, 04:55:01 PM
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The matches that are left for Liverpool in the English Premier League are not so difficult in my opinion and that's why I am not going to be surprised if I see a few rotations in the squad. I believe Liverpool is going to play their best team against Real Madrid in the Champions League final. So Jürgen Klopp is surely going to do what's necessary for the team to have the best players available for the Champions League final.
I think that currently Klopp is making the Champions League trophy his main target this season after seeing their position in the league which seems difficult to get a trophy, despite doing a little rotation in the main squad against Aston Villa, I think it's not because of the rest of their weak opponents in the league, but it seems that the EPL trophy this season is unlikely to belong to Liverpool, so Klopp chose to save his players to face the FA and Champions League finals.

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May 12, 2022, 05:04:54 PM
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If you look at the history of the match, 4 times madrid never lost. But in 2021 they are a draw. May 28, is still quite a long time, they still have enough preparation. It's just that madrid today is more relaxed because the La Liga title they have got.  As for Liverpol, they still have a chance of winning, so they are certainly fighting hard for the EPL and UCL. I in the final will choose Madrid for the champions, they will win 2-1. It's just my prediction hopefully correct, or at least Madrid won even if my score guess was wrong. 
Source: https://www.sofascore.com/liverpool-real-madrid/UsEgb

With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title. And their performance in the Premier League is also very good. They are consistently performing well. So both the teams will continue their best efforts in the title fight. I still think both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning the title.

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Even though Liverpool are currently on fire, especially now they are eyeing the Quadruple, but on the other hand, we also can't make it look like it will be easy, especially since the opponent they will face is Real Madrid.
I personally prefer Madrid for whatever reason they are still strong enough and could even make Liverpool lose

It's hard to guess, for the match will be interesting. Hopefully both teams will have the best players in the game and no injuries during their league games. Actually from the style of play I like Liverpool, they have the collectiveity of the game in the team. Although madrid too, but Madrid's game as a team is no better than liverpool. But today's football the most important thing is the final result, so the process doesn't really matter. I also wish Madrid the champions this season with Anceloti.

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May 12, 2022, 05:13:40 PM
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If you look at the history of the match, 4 times madrid never lost. But in 2021 they are a draw. May 28, is still quite a long time, they still have enough preparation. It's just that madrid today is more relaxed because the La Liga title they have got.  As for Liverpol, they still have a chance of winning, so they are certainly fighting hard for the EPL and UCL. I in the final will choose Madrid for the champions, they will win 2-1. It's just my prediction hopefully correct, or at least Madrid won even if my score guess was wrong. 
Source: https://www.sofascore.com/liverpool-real-madrid/UsEgb

With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title. And their performance in the Premier League is also very good. They are consistently performing well. So both the teams will continue their best efforts in the title fight. I still think both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning the title.
Liverpool also has a focus on the FA cup final against Chelsea. this becomes quite draining for Liverpool. but also an opportunity for Liverpool's best season.
but Madrid is also the team with the most Champions League trophies. Madrid has experience in the finals. especially now Madrid can be very focused on this final match.
it is still very difficult to make predictions and bets for both. I'll try to bet when the match is about to take place.

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May 12, 2022, 05:37:41 PM
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With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title. And their performance in the Premier League is also very good. They are consistently performing well. So both the teams will continue their best efforts in the title fight. I still think both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning the title.
Liverpool also has a focus on the FA cup final against Chelsea. this becomes quite draining for Liverpool. but also an opportunity for Liverpool's best season.
but Madrid is also the team with the most Champions League trophies. Madrid has experience in the finals. especially now Madrid can be very focused on this final match.
it is still very difficult to make predictions and bets for both. I'll try to bet when the match is about to take place.
Liverpool's game is still tight and it will continue to drain their concentration and with some players will it stabilize or is there an injury from one of them, but I hope all the players recover.
Tomorrow is the FA Final, I know not all the main players will be played but for sure Liverpool will chase this championship.
The 18th match with Southampton
The 22nd with Wolves as the final game of the season.
The 29th of the much-awaited UCL final this month.

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May 12, 2022, 06:24:58 PM
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it will be a little good for Benzema if he can win the Champions League this season because his achievements will increase even more now because he can marry the La Liga trophy and the top scorer there and the Champions Trophy with the top scorer too.
I actually expected a lot with Madrid in this match but Liverpool are not an opponent to be taken lightly especially with their current squad which is very good in attack, midfield and defense.

Liverpool problem is if the game is tied or if they are leading by one or two goals with 10 minutes left. Because Real Madrid this season is rocking these last minutes of the Champions League games.  Roll Eyes

Honestly I think that Real Madrid will win, although I also think that Liverpool have a better team.
True, not even once but many times. Against PSG, Chelsea and City they always win in crucial minutes and even in the 80-90+ minutes they always score.
maybe this is Ancelotti's strategy to press with all his might in the last minute.
it's definitely worth watching anyway it's an ideal final

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May 12, 2022, 06:37:41 PM
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With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title.
You have a point there, if you ask me which set of players would come into the game fresher, i would say it would be the Madrid players, they have won their league and Carlo Ancelotti can afford to rotate his squad massively for their remaining league games, he would definitely keep his main players out of the action, and prolly give some of them a 10 or 20 minute game time to stretch their legs.

But Liverpool on the other hand have a final against Chelsea on Saturday, and on top of that they have two very important games in the premier league against Southampton and Wolves, and they can't afford to rest any of their key players for this games, because they want to win all of it, so in terms of coming into the game in a slightly better condition, i think Madrid have the advantage there. But Liverpool is an absolute top club, their stats this season in unbelievable and i am pretty sure they would handle the situation very well. Their major concern now would be on the fitness of Fabinho who is down with a harmstring injury, i hope he is fit come the 28th of this month, cause he is very pivotal to how Liverpool play their game.

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