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The company claims that their treatments are 3–10 thousand US dollars lower than traditional cancer treatments. I’m wondering what market the guys are targeting ?! What living wage is the amount considered from? American? The $3,000 to $10,000 was referring to the Canine Cancer Centers we want to build in the US. Our treatment is going to be around $4000 for the total treatment and I was referring to cost are $3,000 to $10,000 higher for treating dogs. Cancer treatments for people is another subject. The average cost of cancer treatment the US for people is $125,000 to $250,000. If people did not have insurance it would be wipe them out financially. In fact a recent study showed that, for people, that two years after the diagnosis, 42% have spent their life savings even with insurance. There are monthly co-pay that are more than the $4,000 a month. And [/quote]I think that the amount will depend on not only the problem itself and the number of manipulations performed, but also on the region in which this or that action was carried out. [/quote] You are correct for the region. I know wages are different throughout the county and since the major cost involved in our cancer infusion therapy is the cost of the staff, so I am sure that the treatment will differ. Gary
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August 29, 2019, 04:24:00 PM |
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And you did not think that this is just a hidden experimental project on the development and selection of drugs to fight cancer for humans ?!
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August 29, 2019, 04:46:20 PM |
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And you did not think that this is just a hidden experimental project on the development and selection of drugs to fight cancer for humans ?!
I am not following your statement. What is a hidden experiment project? AdSana? And what do you mean the development and selection of drugs to fight cancer for humans? Gary
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August 29, 2019, 05:19:35 PM |
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Hi Gary,
You're doing a great job, well done.
Would you want to check your Telegram link on the OP? It appears to be broken.
Thanks
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August 29, 2019, 06:19:36 PM |
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Gary, I mean, the clinic will still be profitable. With this income it will be possible to develop the business further. Build a network of clinics throughout the United States. Yes Nevsky. I misunderstood what you stated. I am attaching a breakdown of the revenue and cost per Canine Cancer Center for 60 dogs per month. We will do more than 60. 60 is close to half of the dogs one of our teams can do but I am always pragmatic when I do projections. So what your are seeing is the cost for the employees and expense to run a clinic for ONE year. Again this is one team doing 60 dogs. One team can do up to 120 dogs a month. That is just one team. We can add more teams to a Canine Cancer Center. So in a very larger area ,we could have 4 teams, or 5 teams and could be running up to 600 dogs a month thru a clinic. But I just want you to see what we can earn with just one team handling 1/2 their top load of 120 dogs a month. Let me know if you have questions. [/quote] Thanks Gary. Now it’s more clear what your expenses are. Only I do not see the cost of food for dogs. Or is it included in the utillities?
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August 29, 2019, 06:40:29 PM |
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Gary, I mean, the clinic will still be profitable. With this income it will be possible to develop the business further. Build a network of clinics throughout the United States. Yes Nevsky. I misunderstood what you stated. I am attaching a breakdown of the revenue and cost per Canine Cancer Center for 60 dogs per month. We will do more than 60. 60 is close to half of the dogs one of our teams can do but I am always pragmatic when I do projections. So what your are seeing is the cost for the employees and expense to run a clinic for ONE year. Again this is one team doing 60 dogs. One team can do up to 120 dogs a month. That is just one team. We can add more teams to a Canine Cancer Center. So in a very larger area ,we could have 4 teams, or 5 teams and could be running up to 600 dogs a month thru a clinic. But I just want you to see what we can earn with just one team handling 1/2 their top load of 120 dogs a month. Let me know if you have questions. Thanks Gary. Now it’s more clear what your expenses are. Only I do not see the cost of food for dogs. Or is it included in the utillities? [/quote] It is part of the treatment. As with many procedures a person or a dog cannot eat after Midnight the night before. So after the treatment is over (treatment normally total of 90 minutes in and out the door), we always feed them a bowl of their food.
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August 29, 2019, 09:37:50 PM |
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After animal testing, there should be human clinical trials. This is when the drug is practically ready but not yet approved for use in official medical clinics. At least that's how I see it.
All right. I know that trials of any drugs are recruited by a group of volunteers who are sick with a particular disease. Sign documents and agreements for clinical trials.
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August 29, 2019, 10:08:56 PM |
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Now medicine is very advanced in the treatment of this disease. I think that in the coming years, this disease will be curable. She claimed many lives and it can’t just stay!
Medicine does not stand still and new methods of treatment are constantly emerging. However, clinics will be needed to treat patients. This project will be engaged in the launch of new clinics. You're right. Therefore, I believe that cancer can be overcome with safer methods than those that are used today in the world. Today there are few such sensible projects. I think that only countries with advanced medicine can use the latest achievements in this area. But most patients from underdeveloped countries simply cannot afford such treatment. Alas, this is so. In some countries, such as Belarus, there is a free cancer treatment program. There is socialism. In many other countries, treatment costs a lot of money.
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August 29, 2019, 10:29:27 PM |
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After animal testing, there should be human clinical trials. This is when the drug is practically ready but not yet approved for use in official medical clinics. At least that's how I see it.
All right. I know that trials of any drugs are recruited by a group of volunteers who are sick with a particular disease. Sign documents and agreements for clinical trials. I still don't think you all understand that we do not have to do clinical trials. Clinical trials are use to approve new drugs. We are not using any new drugsWe are using FDA approved drugs that have been on the market for more than 50 years. They already some 50 years ago conducted their clinical trials and have the proper use and doses already set up. So no clinical trials are need. We have been using this since 2009 on people and since 2018 on dogs. All doses and uses and more are listed in reference books that both doctors and veterinarian have used for decades. For example, the Saunders Handbook of Veterinary Drugs, 3rd Edition helps you find the specific drug facts you need to treat small and large animals, right when you need them! 550 drugs are organized alphabetically and cross-referenced by functional classification, trade, and generic names so you can access dosage recommendations, contraindications, side effects, possible adverse reactions, drug interactions, and more without the need to sort through a lengthy text. Plus, a companion website provides more than 150 clear, customizable handouts to help you easily communicate important drug information to your clients. There is the same reference books for doctors and people. We do know what were are doing. All the treatment is performed by either a licensed doctor or a licensed veterinarian. Gary
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August 30, 2019, 07:27:08 AM |
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After animal testing, there should be human clinical trials. This is when the drug is practically ready but not yet approved for use in official medical clinics. At least that's how I see it.
All right. I know that trials of any drugs are recruited by a group of volunteers who are sick with a particular disease. Sign documents and agreements for clinical trials. I still don't think you all understand that we do not have to do clinical trials. Clinical trials are use to approve new drugs. We are not using any new drugsWe are using FDA approved drugs that have been on the market for more than 50 years. They already some 50 years ago conducted their clinical trials and have the proper use and doses already set up. So no clinical trials are need. We have been using this since 2009 on people and since 2018 on dogs. All doses and uses and more are listed in reference books that both doctors and veterinarian have used for decades. For example, the Saunders Handbook of Veterinary Drugs, 3rd Edition helps you find the specific drug facts you need to treat small and large animals, right when you need them! 550 drugs are organized alphabetically and cross-referenced by functional classification, trade, and generic names so you can access dosage recommendations, contraindications, side effects, possible adverse reactions, drug interactions, and more without the need to sort through a lengthy text. Plus, a companion website provides more than 150 clear, customizable handouts to help you easily communicate important drug information to your clients. There is the same reference books for doctors and people. We do know what were are doing. All the treatment is performed by either a licensed doctor or a licensed veterinarian. Gary If you are not using new drugs, please explain briefly what is the fundamental novelty of your cancer therapy method? Or does the "silver bullet" not exist?
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August 30, 2019, 08:25:35 AM |
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Drugs are "old" (long developed and approved) but the method of treatment is new or at least little used. Why is this technique still not used to treat people? Yes. In China, there are cases of successful treatment but the widespread use of this method is not yet available.
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August 30, 2019, 10:45:31 AM |
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I think that Gary is a very great man who has acted nobly. There are very few people in the world who really put their whole soul and all their efforts to help pets.
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August 30, 2019, 11:20:23 AM |
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Gary, I mean, the clinic will still be profitable. With this income it will be possible to develop the business further. Build a network of clinics throughout the United States. Yes Nevsky. I misunderstood what you stated. I am attaching a breakdown of the revenue and cost per Canine Cancer Center for 60 dogs per month. We will do more than 60. 60 is close to half of the dogs one of our teams can do but I am always pragmatic when I do projections. So what your are seeing is the cost for the employees and expense to run a clinic for ONE year. Again this is one team doing 60 dogs. One team can do up to 120 dogs a month. That is just one team. We can add more teams to a Canine Cancer Center. So in a very larger area ,we could have 4 teams, or 5 teams and could be running up to 600 dogs a month thru a clinic. But I just want you to see what we can earn with just one team handling 1/2 their top load of 120 dogs a month. Let me know if you have questions. Thanks Gary. Now it’s more clear what your expenses are. Only I do not see the cost of food for dogs. Or is it included in the utillities? It is part of the treatment. As with many procedures a person or a dog cannot eat after Midnight the night before. So after the treatment is over (treatment normally total of 90 minutes in and out the door), we always feed them a bowl of their food. [/quote] I understood. But I meant a little different. I said that I did not see the cost of food for animals in your estimate. Therefore, I asked you about this.
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August 30, 2019, 12:14:43 PM |
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You want to increase the number of clinics and can treat more dogs. Is there a queue in the clinic for the treatment of dogs? Likely there are other veterinary clinics in which treat and in other methods.
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August 30, 2019, 12:43:24 PM |
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Drugs are "old" (long developed and approved) but the method of treatment is new or at least little used. Why is this technique still not used to treat people? Yes. In China, there are cases of successful treatment but the widespread use of this method is not yet available.
Why is the method described by you not available in China? If he is so effective. Probably not everyone can afford it.
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August 30, 2019, 12:54:27 PM |
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How often do people go to your clinic to treat dogs? I mean, people can't know what happened to their dog. They can go to any veterinary clinic. But the that have dogs cancer they know not can.
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August 30, 2019, 01:26:54 PM |
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I'd also like to know. A man came with a dog to your clinic. He doesn't know what's wrong with the dog. Will you diagnose and treat the dog in any way, even if the dog is not sick with cancer?
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August 30, 2019, 01:53:20 PM |
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If you are not using new drugs, please explain briefly what is the fundamental novelty of your cancer therapy method? Or does the "silver bullet" not exist?
I literally did answer this on the page before. I wrote that all cells need energy to live. But cancer stem cell the cancer that spreads need energy the most. So we have a way of temporarily keeping the energy source from the cancer cells and during this time that we have taken the energy source away from the cancer cells they are extremely weak. So when we then use small doses of Chemo it kills the cells. Now other companies are trying the same thing but they are trying to find a NEW DRUG to do it so they can make billions. But the side effect are terrible because all the new drugs need to be taken on a daily basis We don’t need any new drugs and we do it for only 70 mins at a time twice a week. And if you want to learn a lot more watch this video with the inventor, Dr. Tom Tsang our Chief Science Officer. https://youtu.be/1wjiPFDxXhIGary
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August 30, 2019, 02:18:13 PM |
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I think that Gary is a very great man who has acted nobly. There are very few people in the world who really put their whole soul and all their efforts to help pets.
But is this really a noble cause ?! I believe that this is a very good way to make money, because it’s very a pity for a nice little dog, and how not to help him))
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August 30, 2019, 02:54:04 PM |
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I think that Gary is a very great man who has acted nobly. There are very few people in the world who really put their whole soul and all their efforts to help pets.
But is this really a noble cause ?! I believe that this is a very good way to make money, because it’s very a pity for a nice little dog, and how not to help him)) There's nothing wrong with making money. The main thing that people do not break laws and generally accepted moral norms. But opinions about the amount of earnings and their compliance with the work done can be different.
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