Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[AB de Royse777]

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Warner failed again!
0 run from 2 balls.

Australia lost their first wicket very early but seems like Harris and Khawaja is trying to recover. They already have 147 runs lead though. Both Australia and England has plenty of times in this test. Australia needs to score at least 300+ runs to be safe and England needs to show patience in the chase if they want to win. In the fourth innings the pitch will not be easy to play for the batsmen.

[eaLiTy]

England had their best chance to win a Test match in this series but their betting line up is showing the worse commitment LOL

England does have a great limited over team and hence they were able to win the World Cup and that too with a bit of luck on their side, earlier they did have great Test players and their limited over side was almost the same and hence they were not world beaters during those times, to perform well in Test cricket you need to have a good defense and none of the English batsman proved their defensive technique till now, they are aggressive in their approach which only helps in the limited format and not in the real Test .

[Vishnu.Reang]

Hmmm... another batting collapse now. This time from Australia. They are now struggling at 52/3. If this is the sign of things to come, then I think the match will be over before tomorrow's lunch. Khawaja failed once more and now it is up to Travis Head and Labuschangne to build the innings. I don't expect the Australians to score more than 150. 

[DeathAngel]

Does nobody want to put a decent innings in?
England are embarrassing, every time they bowl well they follow it up with an even more pathetic batting performance of their own.

 

[virasog]

Does nobody want to put a decent innings in?
England are embarrassing, every time they bowl well they follow it up with an even more pathetic batting performance of their own.

  

Who would have thought England will be all out at 67. That's impossible to believe. I was not watching the match live but when I saw the score I could not believe my eyes.  We are in the 2nd day of this test and Australia can easily make 2-0 in the ashes.

[FIFA worldcup]

Hmmm... another batting collapse now. This time from Australia. They are now struggling at 52/3. If this is the sign of things to come, then I think the match will be over before tomorrow's lunch. Khawaja failed once more and now it is up to Travis Head and Labuschangne to build the innings. I don't expect the Australians to score more than 150. 

Marnus Labuschagne and Travis Head have steady the ship for the Aussies and now they are 92/3. The total lead is 200 now and if they can give the target of 350, it will not be easy for England to chase this score. I also think this test match will end by the end of 3rd day. We may not see full 5 days of cricket.

[onrise]

Does nobody want to put a decent innings in?
England are embarrassing, every time they bowl well they follow it up with an even more pathetic batting performance of their own.

 

Who would have though England will be all out at 67. That's impossible to believe. I was not watching the match live but when I saw the score I could not believe my eyes.  We are in the 2nd day of this test and Australia can easily make 2-0 in the ashes.

Unexpected this is the same thing they did in first test match where they had a good oppruntiy to utilize the  good bowling but just batsman could not deliver it and same thing happened here as well and now OZ came back strongly and are batting at 110/4 with a lead of  221 runs. This match now belongs to Australia and shoudl be an easy win unless rains comes into picture and hold the game.

[AB de Royse777]

This match now belongs to Australia and shoudl be an easy win unless rains comes into picture and hold the game.

It's not that Australia is doing great. They already lost their 4th wicket in the 2nd innings however the lead is now 236 so far. If they can add 150ish more runs then it's going to be very difficult for England to win this test. The way they batted in the first innings this current lead seems enough for Australia to book England and win the Test. But of course, Australia does not want to take risks.

Good damn it!
My tip is going to be a waste LOL

In the other match, I was expecting better batting from India.

[erikalui]

Missed the golden match: Aus vs Eng

Was already sad for Aus losing all their wickets for 179 and then Eng got just 67 lol

Again 133 for 4 so looks like they'll make about 200 runs if Labuschagne does perform else without Smith, this match looks horrible for both teams.

I am glad that India is playing well and as I predicted, Jadeja performed so well for the team. Never to underestimate Sir Jadeja

[Indymoney]

This match now belongs to Australia and shoudl be an easy win unless rains comes into picture and hold the game.

It's not that Australia is doing great. They already lost their 4th wicket in the 2nd innings however the lead is now 236 so far. If they can add 150ish more runs then it's going to be very difficult for England to win this test. The way they batted in the first innings this current lead seems enough for Australia to book England and win the Test. But of course, Australia does not want to take risks.

Good damn it!
My tip is going to be a waste LOL

In the other match, I was expecting better batting from India.

Even Indian batting was not good but bowling is still on target and they got four early wickets with Bumrah take crucial wicket of Bravo now West Indies is on back foot but still fight is going on most chances India can take lead between 50 to 80 runs which could be good for them as home team is going to bat again in fourth inning.

[JSRAW]

If we honestly look at Ashwin's red ball career then he's a champion bowler in subcontinent but average in SENA countries. 

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In India, Ashwin got 234 wickets with an average of 22.69, in away matches, he got 108 wickets with an average of 31.40, he was successful in both home and away.

This is his Test career records. looks pretty good at first look. But everything is hiding in details.



Ashwin's supporters (I am one of them but only for Subcontinent games) always come up with the same argument that his away average is around 30 with 100+ wickets under his belt. But they still miss out the fact that in away matches' stats Srilanka, Bangladesh, West Indies tours are also included. Subcontinent countries are heaven for every competent spinner, and Windies pitch are spinner friendly as well. He alone picked 60 wickets in 10 matches out of 108 wickets in these countries but his records in SENA countries tells the different story and TBH its not a good one.

Ashwin's Record in SENA countries ( South Aftrica, England, New Zealand, Australia)

• In Australia 4 Test Match Series
  
  • 2011-12 : 9 wickets in 3 match - Best performance 3/81- over all average 62 with strike rate 112
  • 2014-15 : 12 wickets in 3 match- best performance 4/105- average 48 strike rate 85
  • 2017-18 : 6 wicket in one match then injured - Dropped
  
  
• In South Africa 3 Test Match Series
  
  • 2013-14 : 0 wicket in one match, Dropped
  • 2017-18 : 7 wickets in 2 match - best performance 4/113- series average 30 with 65 SR. Dropped
  
  
• In England 5 Test Match Series
  
  • 2014 : 3 wickets in 2 match - best performance 3/72 - series average 33 with 71 SR
  • 2018 : 11 wicket in 4 match - 4/62 -  series average 32 average with 76 SR
  
  
• In NewZealand 2 Test Match Series
  
  • 2013-14 : Dropped

He won many series for India single-handedly in the subcontinent but not a single game in SENA countries, as far as I remember he contributed in only 1-2 games where India did well. And if go deep into more details, then everyone will doubt his capabilities as a spinner. That's the main reason Kuldeep and Chahal are given priorities over him in the last 2 years.

Having said that. With all this, I didn't mean to say that Ashwin is terrible bowler, I repeat that he's a champion bowler in Subcontinent but average bowler in SENA countries. He's still India's No 1 bowler when it comes to Red ball cricket in subcontinent.  

[ene1980]

The rules usually apply to common people only and celebrities usually get a pass. Also, I don't really see what is the big deal in accident exposure. No need to over-complicate simple things people.

I really do not see any issue with the photo posted in social media, why would he need a pass for a snap, you could find many celebrities with much less clothes than these and people want to talk about it because he is a cricket player and not a model  . Social media is the wild west and if anyone thinks that it is inappropriate they have the right to block the image and the user.

[JSRAW]

Good day for Indian team against the Windies. First Jadeja batted beautifully with lower order and added 90 useful runs on the scoreboard. Pitch didn't had much to offer for seam bowler on the 2nd day. Even Windies batsman didn't face any trouble against the Indian seamers throughout the day but good to see Indian seamers picked the right length and good areas. Results every Windies's batsmen got out after touching 2 digits score.

Every regular bowler chiped in and took 1 wicket each. Ishant Sharma end up with fifer and chances are he could be potentially man of the match in the end.

On 2 day stump Windies still trailing by 108 runs and only 2 wickets in hand. Now Holder needs to play sensibly with tailenders and add as much as runs possible. Anything above 90+ runs lead is good for India, Kohli must be smelling victory here.

[vella85]

The third test match between England and Australia has been entertaining so far, it really is a bowlers pitch as 26 wickets have fallen in 2 days. Warner needs to be dropped in my opinion as he has failed again with the bat, Finch deserves a go and I think that will happen in the next test match. Labuschagne has been the shining light for Australia in this match and has put Australia in a strong position after day 2, I think if he can make a century and the tail stick around Australia will certainly win the match. 300+ runs will be very tough to chase down on this pitch with the way it is playing.

[Avirunes]

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Nice analysis and input.

The third test match between England and Australia has been entertaining so far, it really is a bowlers pitch as 26 wickets have fallen in 2 days. Warner needs to be dropped in my opinion as he has failed again with the bat, Finch deserves a go and I think that will happen in the next test match. Labuschagne has been the shining light for Australia in this match and has put Australia in a strong position after day 2, I think if he can make a century and the tail stick around Australia will certainly win the match. 300+ runs will be very tough to chase down on this pitch with the way it is playing.

Test match is kinda bowlers game IMO. In longer format a bowler has more chances and time to surprise and since batsman kinda plays slow and tries to adjust on the pitch they don't have to adjust their strategy much.

Looking at the bowling performance I think Australia will be rattled down quickly.BTW we still have 3 days in this 3rd test and we are already down to second innings. I think England will plan on attacking the other player who is not well adjusted at crease and wind it up quickly. 300+ is not a good score especially when opposition have 2-3 days in hand. I think 500+ will be a good score to challenge at this point but at this condition it is hard for to see Australia reach that.

[Little Mouse]

Ashwin's Record in SENA countries ( South Aftrica, England, New Zealand, Australia)

Wasn't aware of SENA 
It's very much understable, very few spin bowlers can have outstanding performance in SENA countries.

300+ is not a good score especially when opposition have 2-3 days in hand.

Generally it's not a big score, England must have chased it easily. But considering the fact that pitch isn't helping the batsman at all, and within 4th day, pitch will be more worse, 300 is still a handy score. Australia will easily win with that.
There's 31 successful chase (300 and above) in the history of test cricket. For England, it will not be easy to win.

[bryant.coleman]

The third test match between England and Australia has been entertaining so far, it really is a bowlers pitch as 26 wickets have fallen in 2 days. Warner needs to be dropped in my opinion as he has failed again with the bat, Finch deserves a go and I think that will happen in the next test match. Labuschagne has been the shining light for Australia in this match and has put Australia in a strong position after day 2, I think if he can make a century and the tail stick around Australia will certainly win the match. 300+ runs will be very tough to chase down on this pitch with the way it is playing.

Marnus Labuschagne is still batting out there and in the end the lead may grow to 350 or more, which may represent an impossible task for the English batsmen given their pathetic performance during the first innings. I consider both James Pattinson and Pat Cummins as lower middle order batsmen than tailenders and they should give enough support to Labuschagne, so that the lead increases from the current 283 to somewhere between 350-400.

One thing that may go against Australia is the poor form of Nathan Lyon. His performance was not satisfactory during the first innings and if there is no improvement, then it may add more pressure to the pacers. But even with that, any target above 300 looks very much unachievable for England. Forget 300, they won't even make 200 if things go on like this.

[Haunebu]

I really do not see any issue with the photo posted in social media, why would he need a pass for a snap, you could find many celebrities with much less clothes than these and people want to talk about it because he is a cricket player and not a model  . Social media is the wild west and if anyone thinks that it is inappropriate they have the right to block the image and the user.

Exactly. Some people make a big deal out of nothing which was I found this entire drama about his underwear really hilarious. There are bigger issues to focus on than underwears in my opinion.

On 2 day stump Windies still trailing by 108 runs and only 2 wickets in hand. Now Holder needs to play sensibly with tailenders and add as much as runs possible. Anything above 90+ runs lead is good for India, Kohli must be smelling victory here.

Liked your analysis of Ashwin earlier being a Ashwin fan myself. Also, Kohli is not simply smelling victory here, but I think he can taste it since India are in a really good position to wrap this one up as expected.

[Avirunes]

Generally it's not a big score, England must have chased it easily. But considering the fact that pitch isn't helping the batsman at all, and within 4th day, pitch will be more worse, 300 is still a handy score. Australia will easily win with that.
There's 31 successful chase (300 and above) in the history of test cricket. For England, it will not be easy to win.

Well that's also true that pitch isn't kinda giving any favour at all to batsman but if someone is sticking and getting hang of the pitch by playing slow and composed type of cricket like Warner did in 1st and Labuschagne is doing till now then I think England can do it too since they have a upper hand with their batting lineup over Australia.

If 2-3 batsman sticks for England in second and play it calmly then I don't think England will have any problem in winning the third.

[FIFA worldcup]

Generally it's not a big score, England must have chased it easily. But considering the fact that pitch isn't helping the batsman at all, and within 4th day, pitch will be more worse, 300 is still a handy score. Australia will easily win with that.
There's 31 successful chase (300 and above) in the history of test cricket. For England, it will not be easy to win.

Well that's also true that pitch isn't kinda giving any favour at all to batsman but if someone is sticking and getting hang of the pitch by playing slow and composed type of cricket like Warner did in 1st and Labuschagne is doing till now then I think England can do it too since they have a upper hand with their batting lineup over Australia.

If 2-3 batsman sticks for England in second and play it calmly then I don't think England will have any problem in winning the third.

This match is becoming interesting as Aussie will soon be on 300+ lead. Lets see their tail enders can push to how much score in the end. Each and every run will be important and if England started the chase well, there will be an interesting finish.