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November 13, 2023, 09:06:27 PM
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Australia is quite strong with their batting line up too. I'm expecting a competitive match between Australia and South Africa in the semi-final. South Africa had won easily against Australia in the group stage match. But I hope Australia will be able to beat them in the semi-final.The betting odds is in favour of Australia, and it is around 1.70× now.
I think South African team will give them tough time but at the end winner will be Australian because they made for surviving in such tough last stages of world cup, when ever they qualify for a final they won, so you can get idea from there how well their body language and confidence are high stage where mostly team chocked and unable to Handel pressure situation especially we have seen Asian team for such attitude. Anyway, it will be really surprising for me if South Africa beat them and move to the final, but I think it will somehow depend on pitch conditions and toss too. One thing more which I should add that Australian star bowler M.starc will take his retirement right after world cup from ODI format.
South Africa currently third best team in ODI ranking with most chances they will stay at this spot because still they are not good enough for the final even now they are improving their chasing ability is also better like they have done against Pakistan but suddenly against India they were badly down and Australia also struggle against Afghanistan but Maxwell change the tables for their team which is impressive.
Its look like we are heading for another 1999 as semifinal were played between Australia vs South Africa and second New Zealand vs Pakistan, but now we have India with final is going to play between Australia vs India which could be another entertaining match as we have in 2003.

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November 14, 2023, 03:26:03 AM
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South Africa currently third best team in ODI ranking with most chances they will stay at this spot because still they are not good enough for the final even now they are improving their chasing ability is also better like they have done against Pakistan but suddenly against India they were badly down and Australia also struggle against Afghanistan but Maxwell change the tables for their team which is impressive.
Its look like we are heading for another 1999 as semifinal were played between Australia vs South Africa and second New Zealand vs Pakistan, but now we have India with final is going to play between Australia vs India which could be another entertaining match as we have in 2003.

South Africa may not be able to compete properly against Australia, because they need to deal with the issue of quota products such as Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo who needs to be included in the squad irrespective of their performance. The quota system means that players who are performing well needs to make way for these mediocre players and warm the bench. Australia gives priority for merit and that will be the main reason why they will remain as the favorites to win the second semi-final between these two teams.

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November 14, 2023, 05:19:32 AM
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After the first 2 defeat, Australia bounce back well tho and everyone chipped in, including top order, middle order and bowlers as well so they are on the right track despite their recent meltdown against Afghanistan.

So far, SA is dominating when batting first but at the same time they look completely different outfit when chasing the target so it'll be an interesting contest if they win the toss.
Australia's main weakpoint is the fact that they aren't able to win easily if their top order falls quickly. Maxwell miracle was an insane exception. They are over-dependent on Warner and Marsh basically.

On the other hand, South Africa are also over-dependent on De Kock to some extent, but they manage well without him more often than not.

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November 14, 2023, 05:59:01 AM
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South Africa may not be able to compete properly against Australia, because they need to deal with the issue of quota products such as Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo who needs to be included in the squad irrespective of their performance. The quota system means that players who are performing well needs to make way for these mediocre players and warm the bench. Australia gives priority for merit and that will be the main reason why they will remain as the favorites to win the second semi-final between these two teams.

South Africa despite having players like Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo has performed well in group stage. They have lost the game against Pakistan but thanks to some crucial decision from umpires they eventually won that game. South Africa are known to be chokers and most of time they lost in semis. They are the only side that haven't played any ODI WC final till date.

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November 14, 2023, 06:11:43 AM
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South Africa may not be able to compete properly against Australia, because they need to deal with the issue of quota products such as Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo who needs to be included in the squad irrespective of their performance. The quota system means that players who are performing well needs to make way for these mediocre players and warm the bench. Australia gives priority for merit and that will be the main reason why they will remain as the favorites to win the second semi-final between these two teams.

South Africa despite having players like Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo has performed well in group stage. They have lost the game against Pakistan but thanks to some crucial decision from umpires they eventually won that game. South Africa are known to be chokers and most of time they lost in semis. They are the only side that haven't played any ODI WC final till date.
Even if Australia plays badly in the beginning, Australia is playing great in the next matches, moreover, it is normal that Australia will not do worse in important stages like the semi-finals. South Africa, on the other hand, do not have the ability to withstand the stress of reaching the semi-finals, which is why they have a record of being knocked out of the semi-finals more than once. The same could happen in the match on the 16th, with Australia likely to be eliminated from the semi-finals.

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November 14, 2023, 06:24:26 AM
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South Africa may not be able to compete properly against Australia, because they need to deal with the issue of quota products such as Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo who needs to be included in the squad irrespective of their performance. The quota system means that players who are performing well needs to make way for these mediocre players and warm the bench. Australia gives priority for merit and that will be the main reason why they will remain as the favorites to win the second semi-final between these two teams.

South Africa despite having players like Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo has performed well in group stage. They have lost the game against Pakistan but thanks to some crucial decision from umpires they eventually won that game. South Africa are known to be chokers and most of time they lost in semis. They are the only side that haven't played any ODI WC final till date.
South Africa have performed well in various ODI series throughout the year, due to their excellent performances in various Bilateral series they have been in a very good position in the points table most of the year but when it comes to major ICC tournaments they are nowhere to be found. In major ICC tournaments, they go through the quarter finals and group stage matches as if there is no stronger team than them, but when it comes to the semi finals or important matches, they are the worst performers of their tournament. In 2015 World Cup we saw every player of South Africa crying because South Africa gave their best performance in that tournament but they were defeated in the semi-final. I think they will do something exceptional in this World Cup tournament. If they can't do anything exceptional in this World Cup tournament, they can definitely be called four.

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November 14, 2023, 06:24:37 AM
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South Africa may not be able to compete properly against Australia, because they need to deal with the issue of quota products such as Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo who needs to be included in the squad irrespective of their performance. The quota system means that players who are performing well needs to make way for these mediocre players and warm the bench. Australia gives priority for merit and that will be the main reason why they will remain as the favorites to win the second semi-final between these two teams.
South Africa despite having players like Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo has performed well in group stage. They have lost the game against Pakistan but thanks to some crucial decision from umpires they eventually won that game. South Africa are known to be chokers and most of time they lost in semis. They are the only side that haven't played any ODI WC final till date.
Even if Australia plays badly in the beginning, Australia is playing great in the next matches, moreover, it is normal that Australia will not do worse in important stages like the semi-finals. South Africa, on the other hand, do not have the ability to withstand the stress of reaching the semi-finals, which is why they have a record of being knocked out of the semi-finals more than once. The same could happen in the match on the 16th, with Australia likely to be eliminated from the semi-finals.

It is not possible to give sure prediction about Australia vs South Africa match. Australia  did not play well in the first two  matches but batted well in each subsequent match. On the other hand  South African  batsmen are in very good form. In every match in which South Africa have batted first, they have managed to score high  in every match. I will put the Australian team slightly ahead. But  if the South African team bats first, it will be much more difficult for Australia to win this match. I would  say the outcome of this match will depend on the performance of the batsmen of both the teams. Because the pitch is likely to be batting friendly.

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November 14, 2023, 07:01:08 AM
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Australia is quite strong with their batting line up too. I'm expecting a competitive match between Australia and South Africa in the semi-final. South Africa had won easily against Australia in the group stage match. But I hope Australia will be able to beat them in the semi-final.The betting odds is in favour of Australia, and it is around 1.70× now.
I think South African team will give them tough time but at the end winner will be Australian because they made for surviving in such tough last stages of world cup, when ever they qualify for a final they won, so you can get idea from there how well their body language and confidence are high stage where mostly team chocked and unable to Handel pressure situation especially we have seen Asian team for such attitude. Anyway, it will be really surprising for me if South Africa beat them and move to the final, but I think it will somehow depend on pitch conditions and toss too. One thing more which I should add that Australian star bowler M.starc will take his retirement right after world cup from ODI format.
In 1st Semi final between Australia and South Africa If South Africa win the toss and decided to bat first they will be favourites to win this semifinal and qualify for final of world cup. South Africa played 9 match in world cup and they win 7 matches and number 2 on points table with 14 points and only loss match against Netherlands when they bowl first and Netherlands set a 245 runs target for South Africa. And South Africa failed to chase down the 245 target by 38 runs short and South Africa all out in 207 runs. Australia is also strong team they have 5 time world champions but i honestly see South Afric winning this world cup



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November 14, 2023, 07:05:38 AM
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After the first 2 defeat, Australia bounce back well tho and everyone chipped in, including top order, middle order and bowlers as well so they are on the right track despite their recent meltdown against Afghanistan.

So far, SA is dominating when batting first but at the same time they look completely different outfit when chasing the target so it'll be an interesting contest if they win the toss.
Australia's main weakpoint is the fact that they aren't able to win easily if their top order falls quickly. Maxwell miracle was an insane exception. They are over-dependent on Warner and Marsh basically.

On the other hand, South Africa are also over-dependent on De Kock to some extent, but they manage well without him more often than not.
Just for Luls, You know what would be funny?

South Africa and New Zealand beating their respective opponent in the Semis, it would be a big *uck you moment for PIG-3 as one is already crippled and kicked out.

We'll also have a new World Champion as both teams failed to win the ODI WC, like a million times.

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November 14, 2023, 07:36:07 AM
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Even if Australia plays badly in the beginning, Australia is playing great in the next matches, moreover, it is normal that Australia will not do worse in important stages like the semi-finals. South Africa, on the other hand, do not have the ability to withstand the stress of reaching the semi-finals, which is why they have a record of being knocked out of the semi-finals more than once. The same could happen in the match on the 16th, with Australia likely to be eliminated from the semi-finals.

England also havent won any ODI WC till 2019 when they beat New Zealand in the final. Based on the past data we can say that SA are chokers but cant say they don't have the ability to win in the future. Having said that I think current SA team is not as strong as it used to be in A B de Villiers time and I don't have much hopes of SA winning the semi final against mighty Australia.

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In 1st Semi final between Australia and South Africa If South Africa win the toss and decided to bat first they will be favourites to win this semifinal and qualify for final of world cup. South Africa played 9 match in world cup and they win 7 matches and number 2 on points table with 14 points and only loss match against Netherlands when they bowl first and Netherlands set a 245 runs target for South Africa. And South Africa failed to chase down the 245 target by 38 runs short and South Africa all out in 207 runs. Australia is also strong team they have 5 time world champions but i honestly see South Afric winning this world cup
In my point of view because of the Fast batting the South Africa team will play much  better. By the way South Africa has the bad kuch it always qualify for the semifinals but they  lost the match in semifinal.
I wish a good luck to the South African team and I hope they will win the match and will qualify for the final match and I think they will Play with India. So let's see.

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Just for Luls, You know what would be funny?

South Africa and New Zealand beating their respective opponent in the Semis, it would be a big *uck you moment for PIG-3 as one is already crippled and kicked out.

We'll also have a new World Champion as both teams failed to win the ODI WC, like a million times.

ICC already received their dose of shock when Netherlands qualified for this tournament well ahead of three test nations (West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe). And then again they went through the same state when the Dutch mopped the floor with South Africa and the arrogant Bangladeshis (that was before getting destroyed by Australia and India though). And in case South Africa qualifies for the final, then it will be purely earth shattering for the ICC. In case of New Zealand, I am not that bothered, as they are always aligned with the pig-3.

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South Africa despite having players like Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo has performed well in group stage. They have lost the game against Pakistan but thanks to some crucial decision from umpires they eventually won that game. South Africa are known to be chokers and most of time they lost in semis. They are the only side that haven't played any ODI WC final till date.
Even if Australia plays badly in the beginning, Australia is playing great in the next matches, moreover, it is normal that Australia will not do worse in important stages like the semi-finals. South Africa, on the other hand, do not have the ability to withstand the stress of reaching the semi-finals, which is why they have a record of being knocked out of the semi-finals more than once. The same could happen in the match on the 16th, with Australia likely to be eliminated from the semi-finals.
Now South African's in cricket is more than three decades but sadly still they are not able to perform as they are able with many domestic issues like quota and other political issues hurting them badly which are surely never allow any team to do their best even they have one of the best individuals into their team they need to be established on merit if they want to have achieved best from this game.

Australians are one of the best cricketing minds with they prepare their players for the big games, and they never give up even they are down like we have from the Maxwell this mentality difference is surely giving them good edge so here even still we have now two days left, but mostly predictions are going into Australian favor with South Africa can change the history It's still possible.

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In 1st Semi final between Australia and South Africa If South Africa win the toss and decided to bat first they will be favourites to win this semifinal and qualify for final of world cup. South Africa played 9 match in world cup and they win 7 matches and number 2 on points table with 14 points and only loss match against Netherlands when they bowl first and Netherlands set a 245 runs target for South Africa. And South Africa failed to chase down the 245 target by 38 runs short and South Africa all out in 207 runs. Australia is also strong team they have 5 time world champions but i honestly see South Afric winning this world cup
In my point of view because of the Fast batting the South Africa team will play much  better. By the way South Africa has the bad kuch it always qualify for the semifinals but they  lost the match in semifinal.
I wish a good luck to the South African team and I hope they will win the match and will qualify for the final match and I think they will Play with India. So let's see.
The mission to reach the final will not be easy for South Africa. That's because South Africa's opponent is Australia. We have already seen Australia play. Australia has some great batsmen and they play very well. Two Australian players scored back-to-back double centuries so the Australian team is undoubtedly strong. Not to say that South Africa don't play well, of course they play well, but the mission to beat Australia and reach the final will be very difficult. South Africa vs Australia match I will put Australia ahead here. I think Australia has a better chance of going to the final after beating South Africa.

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November 14, 2023, 09:21:51 AM
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In 1st Semi final between Australia and South Africa If South Africa win the toss and decided to bat first they will be favourites to win this semifinal and qualify for final of world cup. South Africa played 9 match in world cup and they win 7 matches and number 2 on points table with 14 points and only loss match against Netherlands when they bowl first and Netherlands set a 245 runs target for South Africa. And South Africa failed to chase down the 245 target by 38 runs short and South Africa all out in 207 runs. Australia is also strong team they have 5 time world champions but i honestly see South Afric winning this world cup
At the Wankhede, India is hot favorite with their current form and home conditions are also into their favor but ICC events history is favoring New Zealand, so this could be also good competitions between these two teams for the place into last two.

On 16th November we will have match between Australia vs South Africa which is surely one of the best match as both having good rivalry and current form and quality is also at the level even in group matches Australia lost, but they have good fightback after losing their first two matches with seven matches winning streak which is surely impressive, so now we have to wait for the judgement day who is going to have spot into last two with all four teams are having good quality and good players, but India is currently hot-favorite with 90% chances.

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The mission to reach the final will not be easy for South Africa. That's because South Africa's opponent is Australia. We have already seen Australia play. Australia has some great batsmen and they play very well. Two Australian players scored back-to-back double centuries so the Australian team is undoubtedly strong. Not to say that South Africa don't play well, of course they play well, but the mission to beat Australia and reach the final will be very difficult. South Africa vs Australia match I will put Australia ahead here. I think Australia has a better chance of going to the final after beating South Africa.

Australia will have the advantage and I don't have any doubt regarding it. South Africa has historically performed poorly in the knockout phases of different ICC tournaments, while the opposite is true for Australia. No other team has outperformed in the ICC tournaments as much as Australia. They won their first ODI World Cup in 1987, and after that there were 4 different occasions when they won the trophy (last time in 2015). India and West Indies have won the trophy twice and they rank much below Australia on this regard.

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South Africa despite having players like Temba Bavuma and Andile Phehlukwayo has performed well in group stage. They have lost the game against Pakistan but thanks to some crucial decision from umpires they eventually won that game. South Africa are known to be chokers and most of time they lost in semis. They are the only side that haven't played any ODI WC final till date.
Even if Australia plays badly in the beginning, Australia is playing great in the next matches, moreover, it is normal that Australia will not do worse in important stages like the semi-finals. South Africa, on the other hand, do not have the ability to withstand the stress of reaching the semi-finals, which is why they have a record of being knocked out of the semi-finals more than once. The same could happen in the match on the 16th, with Australia likely to be eliminated from the semi-finals.
Now South African's in cricket is more than three decades but sadly still they are not able to perform as they are able with many domestic issues like quota and other political issues hurting them badly which are surely never allow any team to do their best even they have one of the best individuals into their team they need to be established on merit if they want to have achieved best from this game.

Australians are one of the best cricketing minds with they prepare their players for the big games, and they never give up even they are down like we have from the Maxwell this mentality difference is surely giving them good edge so here even still we have now two days left, but mostly predictions are going into Australian favor with South Africa can change the history It's still possible.
South Africa batsmen try and don't do well, which has led to them losing matches.The South African batsmen can win the semi-final match if they try. If South Africa's batsmen and bowlers show some struggle and hard work in the semi-finals, they will definitely win this match.


Because batsmen like Maxwell and Mitchell Marsh are in the team, they don't lose matches.Like in the previous matches Maxwell scored a double century to win the match if they show such efficiency in the semi-final as well they can win and prove this prediction. Australia is no less.

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South Africa batsmen try and don't do well, which has led to them losing matches.The South African batsmen can win the semi-final match if they try. If South Africa's batsmen and bowlers show some struggle and hard work in the semi-finals, they will definitely win this match.


Because batsmen like Maxwell and Mitchell Marsh are in the team, they don't lose matches.Like in the previous matches Maxwell scored a double century to win the match if they show such efficiency in the semi-final as well they can win and prove this prediction. Australia is no less.

Warner, Maxwell and Marsh have been in splendid form. Right now, Warner has scored a total of 499 runs at an average of 55.44 and also with a strike rate of well over 100. Marsh is not far behind, as he has scored 426 runs with an average of 60.85 and strike rate of 109.51. In case of Maxell, the strike rate is an unbelievable 152.69. He scored 397 runs at an average of 79.40. However, apart from these three batsmen, the remaining Australian batsmen have poor record so far in the world cup. Labuschagne has an average of 35.75, while for Smith it is just 38.28.

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November 14, 2023, 12:34:54 PM
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The mission to reach the final will not be easy for South Africa. That's because South Africa's opponent is Australia. We have already seen Australia play. Australia has some great batsmen and they play very well. Two Australian players scored back-to-back double centuries so the Australian team is undoubtedly strong. Not to say that South Africa don't play well, of course they play well, but the mission to beat Australia and reach the final will be very difficult. South Africa vs Australia match I will put Australia ahead here. I think Australia has a better chance of going to the final after beating South Africa.

Australia will have the advantage and I don't have any doubt regarding it. South Africa has historically performed poorly in the knockout phases of different ICC tournaments, while the opposite is true for Australia. No other team has outperformed in the ICC tournaments as much as Australia. They won their first ODI World Cup in 1987, and after that there were 4 different occasions when they won the trophy (last time in 2015). India and West Indies have won the trophy twice and they rank much below Australia on this regard.
op I agree with you because in Australia vs South Africa match Australia will be ahead in all aspects. If we observe, we can understand if South Africa do well in the beginning. But they don't have a chance to do so well in the semi-finals. Australia is the only team, if we look at the game Australia played against Afghanistan, the chances of winning this match are very low. When Australia lost 7 wickets, I thought Afghanistan would win today. But Maxwell played a brilliant T20 to win his team. Where batsmen like Maxwell David Warner are in their team, they can do whatever they want. However, in the game of cricket uncertainty, it cannot be said for sure that Australia will win. But the chances of Australia winning will be high.

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There will be a Semi- Final match played between India and New Zealand, Rohit Sharma, Shreyas Iyer Kl Rahul are in form now, and if we think their other batters who have also strong enough to provide good shots all over the boundaries, a benefit for the Indian Team is that they have their home ground in which they plays a good cricket as compared to other grounds.

Also New Zealand cricket Team is giving a tough time, as they practices their players in the practice session today. Kane Williamson is the key player for the team of New Zealand and we know if he scores big the New Zealand can chase even a big total in the matches we have seen. So, he have to play some big shots and a knock will be need in  order to win the match.
Indian team is in very good form in the current season, the batting form of the Indian team is much stronger than the New Zealand players. And Indian team is very strong at home ground, semi final match will be held at Mumbai ground so Indian team can fight this match with much more courage. Because the performance of Indian team in Mumbai field is very good but New Zealand team is a little weak in this aspect as well. The Indian team has not lost a match this season, but the New Zealand team has won a total of five matches to enter the semi-finals. So Indian team is stronger than New Zealand team and India team can definitely win this match.

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